Thread 11812694

Despite being hailed as one of the greats, nobody plays this game. The series gets talked about a lot by people who like the designs, but nobody plays it. If you did play it instead of cooming or cosplaying as a fake "goth" "girl", you'd realize why. The pushblock mechanic is retarded and keeps 90 percent of the fighting game playerbase away and is what always has, because the game is only fun on the most casual level where you ignore that key function

You absolutely need a stick, and with it you need to smash your hand against all the buttons simultaneously to trigger the most important mechanic of high level play. It ruins the game.

>>11812694 (OP)
How come this series got big with the discord 100gecfan crowd?

What's your fightcade username OP?

All Capcom fighters play the same
Same shit all of them

you really decided to make your own thread whining about pushblock instead of just staying in that shitty derailed poison thread, huh

>>11812694 (OP)
Did ya ever think the people who played and liked these games at the height of their popularity, was because they were just fun fighting games and they were not being try-hard faggots that need to critique every little minute mechanic most will never notice?

>>11813592
Tons of people did.
Reviewers becoming popular ruined a lot of people's brains.

>>11813592
Do you want to win or not? It's a versus game not co op

>>11813598
>Reviewers are what created competitive play
Uh, well......no, that's stupid. I can't think of a genre that was less reliant on reviews than fighters.

>>11814301
>try-hard faggots that need to critique every little minute mechanic most will never notice?
this applies to reviewers
stupid

>>11812694 (OP)
>nobody plays this game
Nobody except all the people who do.
It's got a niche following, but it's not "nobody".

>>11812694 (OP)
>You absolutely need a stick
No, you don't.

>>11813736
Do you honestly think the people waiting in line to play these games in arcades when they were new, were all dissecting shit like frame data?

>>11814313
Sometimes I wonder what's the point in replying to ridiculous statements like that because I assume the OP knows he's being insane, but then I wonder if he actually means it

>>11814327
No

But hobbyists who keep these old games alive and relevant care. And I'm just telling the reason Darkstalkers has no scene. And a major mechanic isn't comparable to frame data obsessing lol, if you wanna be good at VS you need to use the push block, it ends up being as important as cross ups in Street Fighter or knowing how to tag in and out in Marvel

>>11814315
Depends on who you play as.

Some characters you can get by fairly well on Saturn model 2 pad, other characters, you really have to play with stick. Same in all Capcom 2d fighters from their golden era (1994-2002)

>>11814315
The only way to do it is to run your fingers across all attack buttons simultaneously, it's literally a mashing gimmick

You can do it on a pad with six face buttons, but that's still extremely fucking awkward on a controller and not worth it,but simply wasn't made to be played on a pad

>>11814453
I would assume anyone recommending a controller would be recommending a Saturn style controller.

>>11814453
>The only way to do it is to run your fingers across all attack buttons simultaneously, it's literally a mashing gimmick
what system mechanic are you referring to?

>>11814515
Push block, a tech hit for guessing a combination of P and K iirc, similar to marvel's air combo stuff.
It can be done with a pad

Pretty sure its a popular fighting game in Japan to the point it still being played at tournaments.

>>11814530
Yeah, I looked it up. That technique should be doable on a pad, but would actually be easier on a playstation style controller over a saturn controller. Using all four shoulder buttons (duplicating two buttons on L1/L2) should be viable. It's tournament legal btw.

>>11814587
Nah that anon is full of malarkey.

You can't just press all the buttons, you literally have to slide your hand across all the attack buttons back and forth rapidly, smoothly in succession so they're all pressed super fast over and over in a smooth overlapping movement. It's only done by sliding your hand over the buttons, you're not gonna do it by just pressing them all individually even if you mash fast as possible

>>11814462
Makes it more doable, but still too hard to do with consistency which is what you need, without an arcade can aka basically a table to support yourself on while you rub it hard and fast with a flat hand like a desensitized pussy

>>11814537
Well this isn't Japan. I don't care what they do there anymore than I do what people do for fun in Zimbobway

>>11812694 (OP)
>The pushblock mechanic is retarded and keeps 90 percent of the fighting game playerbase away and is what always has
Just play Anakaris (:

>>11812694 (OP)
>casual and new fans
Because lacking Nintendo port

>>11814593
>you're not gonna do it by just pressing them all individually even if you mash fast as possible
Yes you can, that's literally what a number of people do. It's called "pianoing" buttons.
https://youtu.be/b2LfGH-86-8?si=AEk8cdtL0Fv-hI_D

>>11812694 (OP)
Better off remain dead.

https://news.sankakucomplex.com/2022/07/05/capcom-fighting-collection-censors-sexy-secret-ending/

>>11815681
>Anon who pretends to be ESL saying "port to [console]"
What's your endgame? Genuinely wanting these ports, or console war bait falseflag? Knowing the internet, it's likeñy the later...

>>11812694 (OP)
I played it competitively until recently, you suck at fighting games
sasquatch main btw

>>11816563
You and five other zoomer dudes in pink wigs played this competitively, nice scene.

Bet you didn't play high level anyway

Vsav is played competitively and people can do pushblock with a Saturn pad, stop protecting.

>>11818383
Vsav is not popular, stop thinking a tiny insular niche scene is a large and relevant one. If 5 out of 10 people on the street never heard of a game, it's not famous.

>>11818390
Nobody said Vampire Savior is popular or famous.
OP said "Nobody" plays it.
These are two different things.
Are you too fucking stupid to know the difference?
It seems so.

>>11818426
Careful, he's going to start posting steamcharts.

>>11815665
>The 90s fighting game not from my country is not being played in my country!

>>11818381
I did, i'm from japan
you just need to get better gaijin

>>11818454
>>11818460
I don't care, the number one thing about Americans, is we don't care about the world outside of us, but they care about us, which is why foreigners post on an English site.

>>11818480
steal imageboard from 2ch gaijin
shitpost relentlessly and quality low

>>11812694 (OP)
>keeps 90 percent of the fighting game playerbase away
And that's a good thing.

>>11818480
You're not even American.

>>11816172
I not into console war
>ESL
Force meme

>>11819186
>>11818480
Anime website

Just play Hunter if you dislike the pushblock so much.

>>11820104
OP doesn't play video games.

>>11815681
This

>>11818849
So go back, we don't want you here.

>>11819186
Ok chang.

>>11812694 (OP)
filtered
VSav is stupid fun and I love playing it

>>11812890
Holy fucking wrong

>>11814453
>simultaneously
wrong, dumbass, you piano the buttons, not press them at the same time
keep your faggot mouth shut on this game because you clearly don't know shit about it

>>11812694 (OP)
>, nobody plays this game.
japan played it so much a bunch of manga and animes were made for it.
>muh USA and brasil gaming!!!
you don't matter.

>>11818480
well practise what you preach and don't whine about nippon games that nipponers played, dumbass trollb8 flamewar starter?

>>11820697
Japan will never matter. The US always matters. We literally rule the world

>>11812694 (OP)
This game only has a big transexual audience, which is small comparatively to the larger FGC, but it's still people

>>11821124
kek your country is literally losing its hold on global hegemony with every passing day

>>11812694 (OP)
This game is literally responsible for an entire genre of succubus hentai, dumbass.

>>11821128
Your women only fuck Americans because they don't have micropenis or autism.

>>11821138
our women fuck Americans the same way white American women fuck black men
its fetishized racism

>>11821141
Japan created autism. NEETs are there

>>11821130
Capcom did not invent succubae, dumbass.

>>11821130
Carrera predates Darkstalkers, anon

>>11812694 (OP)
I played the shit out of Darkstalkers Chronicle: The Chaos Tower for PSP.

>>11823019
It did introduce them to a generation of Japanese, Morrigan wasn't even originally gonna be a succubus til someone at Capcom of America suggested it

>>11812694 (OP)
Nobody plays it because it's 30 years old you fucking retard

>>11823112
Same. First psp game i ever got.

>>11823450
People play plenty of old fighters, get out of her newfag

SF2, alpha, III, marvel, KOF 98, etc still make up the backbone of the fgc

>>11812890
Mega midwit opinion

>>11815681
If it did get ported back , it would have been censored to hell no thanks to the baseball merchant at NoA.

>>11812890
Based opinion

>>11812694 (OP)
>Despite being hailed as one of the greats, nobody plays this game.
No, not really. Casuals didn't know it existed til long after the arcade scene was dead. Magazines talked about it, but you never encountered an arcade cabinet in the wild, outside of japan. It's yet another series Capcom dropped with ball on. Not that I'd expect some zoomer to know that.

>You absolutely need a stick blaw blaw
Anyone with a Saturn knows that's not true.

>>11812694 (OP)
The only capcom fighter that's worth anything is Street Fighter, the rest are shit. Even SNK was the only japanese studio that successfully managed to make other, interesting fighting games.

>>11823112
Switch port of vampire chronicle?

52 people on fightcade right now.
That's not "nobody".
If you want to play the game against human beings there's nothing holding you back.
>I wanna play in person!
Then go to a FGC meet-up or tourney.
>I don't wanna drive!
Then I guess you don't really want to play, or stick to fightcade.

>>11824928
ESL falseflag?

>>11824451
>The only capcom fighter that's worth anything is Street Fighter
I disagree. Marvel is good so is Rival Schools. Darkstalkers has all the makings of a great fighting game, ruined by an arcade centric gimmick that renders it little more than a niche novelty. It easily could have been like, a great middle ground between SF and Marvel though, instead that place is taken by Rival Schools

>>11825010
If you're still going on about pushblock, then what are your thoughts on the first two Darkstalkers games, since they don't even have it?

>>11825010
marvel is basically street fighter with marvel characters. all the marvel games are just asset flips of street fighter alpha series + x-men cota and marvel super heroes

>>11815715
>linking shitkanku

>>11823019
Search the term "pioneer"
Also japs were still in that occultism craze, the pitch Capcom USA suggested took the place like a storm.

>>11826207
>marvel is basically street fighter with marvel characters.
Lol not at all. Marvel is defined by super jumps, aerial combat, tag team matches, assist characters, over the top super moves, and super fast, sometimes lengthy chain combos.

It's really nothing like SF, and is a proto anime fighter. It's closest to resembling Darkstalkers play style if anything, a faster more hyper and chaotic Darkstalkers

>>11824979
ESL projection?

>>11828347
>it's nothing like this game it's almost exactly like because of a couple of slightly different mechanics
don't be autistic, they're basically the same game with different rosters. they're both 2D and you do combos and special moves

>>11821127
>transexual audience
>still people
Pick one

>>11828716
Port to fake ESL falseflag?

>>11828727
Port to fake ESL projection?

>>11824270
NoA give up censored, look at Doom and MK2 port

>>11828723
You are a know-nothing scrub who only sees the surface similarities. Lurk more.

>>11828876
>this minor difference means they're COMPLETELY DIFFERENT bro
this is why people make fun of you fighting game autists.
you obsess over tiny insignificant details and pretend like your button-masher games are so super deep and shit.
I'd say it's hilarious but it's actually pretty sad. you all look fucking retarded.

>>11813592
Yeah it was a better time and OP is a big ole faggot having a manic episode across a half dozen fighting game threads. You'll never be a woman OP

>>11812694 (OP)
>a failed series propped up by casuals
This is how you know OP is a midwit sperg. Casuals are the meat of the gaming community. Games aren't failures because the casual audience likes them.

>>11828879
It's not a minor difference, you're just a completely ignorant scrub. Even the casuals can tell the easily discerned radical differences between SF2 style games and the VS. games.

>>11828954
they're literally just 2D fighters with special moves and combos.
>yeah but in this one you can jump real high sometimes!
oh wow that's groundbreaking! it's almost a completely different genre!
you're retarded. nobody cares about your faggot autismo obsession with minor mechanical differences. SF, Marvel, MK, KoF, Samurai Showdown, it's all the same shit.
actually different fighting games would be the more realistic 3D ones without special moves like Tekken and Soul Calibur.

>>11828981
Nah sf is more grounded with a higher floor, vs series is typically tag based with a slew of spamming special movies with simpler inputs and combo building.

>>11829051
>spamming special moves
that's... literally all anybody does in street fighter 2

>>11828981
Do you even play video games? You're like some silent gen grandpa thinking Merry-oh and Sanic are the same thing.

>>11829342
>heh get a load of this guy I bet he thinks a 2D platformer is the same kind of game as a 2D platformer
...yes?

>>11829380
So you admit to knowing nothing about video games and not playing them.

>>11829558
>if you think a 2D platformer and a 2D platformer aren't COMPLETELY different you don't even play video games!
am I really expected to fall for this bait? please, try harder or stop posting.

>>11828981
Retard non gamer post

>>11829616
retarded fighting game autist post.

>>11829636
Your taste is shit Nintoddler

>>11830825
>Nintendo out of nowhere
Based

>>11815681
Trvke indeed

>>11812761
Who pay censorship wall instead pirated them?

capcom needs a fighting game for all their freak characters and keep street fighter for all the grounded stuff

>>11833750
1/4 of the original SF 2 cast is "freak characters". Even fewer are "grounded".

Yeah it's not exactly Street Fighter or Mortal Kombat levels of notoriety but I think you're a youngblood. I went to college in the 90s and plenty of people played this game in arcades (or bars or laundromats or the ice cream store or whatever).

>you need x and y to trigger "the most important mechanic of high level play"
keep seething weirdo. nobody cares about high level play and anyone in the universe who wants to get real real serious about fighting games would have a stick anyway, the only game that doesn't require one is Tekken

>>11835160
Sticks aren't needed at all for most fighting games. They're literally only better if you're more accustomed to them.