They triggered trillions.

Not really. Steiner is a loser, so I didn't need another sword for him.

>>11814740 (OP)
Steiner's "shock" does 9999 damage, so there's no real reason to put in the effort.

>>11814757
>>11814846
Not OP but you don't understand.

The point isn't that the weapon is needed or even useful, but that a completionist wanting to get all weapons has to basically speedrun the game and skip through the story to blitz to the endgame to get it (counterintuitive and disgusting to the mindset of someone playing a game to 100% completion).

>>11814987
Who cares? Like you don't have to do EVERYTHING in one single playthrough, this mindset literally killed RPG's.

>>11814987
>completionist
Those people don't matter

>>11814987
Or, maybe it was just another challenge they snuck in to give gamers a challenge for replayability? Like Ozma, you get a summon but the reward is the challenge itself...
This game has so many items hidden I've played it over 1000 hrs and still occasionally find new loot. Any "completionist" is missing what the game is about entirely.

>>11814987
Completionists weren't a thing before the advent of mainstream gamefaqs culture.

>>11815110
Yes, it's achievements that created an entire "completionist" sub culture. I've seen people give bad reviews to games because they play on the hardest difficulty on the first playthrough to get all achievements, only to complain that they get filtered and that the achievements aren't handed out to them.

>>11815110
>gamefaqs
>mainstream
u wot m8

>>11815406
There were perfect game guides on GameFAQs well before achievements even existed, lil zoomie. You completely misunderstood the post you're replying to.

>>11815110
Which predates the release of FF9.

>>11815423
Gamefags autists were a niche that few devs cared about. Achievements made completionism a mainstream practice that ALL video game makers catter to.

>>11815427
That has nothing at all to do with this quote chain, my chatbot friend.

>>11815426
Gamefaqs existed but the gamefaqs culture wasn't still widely established and internalized by the majority. By that I mean that in the year 2000 people still played games by themselves mostly without needing to optimize their first playthrough. Now everyone checks walkthroughs, meta strats, list of missables, and they harass the developers if they design a game in which not everything is obtainable in one playthrough, all of that before even starting to play the game.

>>11815432
On what fucking planet is GameFAQs some sort of cultural force? It's just a website that hosts a lot of useful guides. Don't tell me you're actually interacting with the subhumans there.

idc about gamefaqs but every superboss and item that had cryptic and difficult methods of getting it were made for completionists

no normal player was expected to care about these things nor go for them, like the Pink Tails and the Golden Chocobo and, yes, Excalibur in FF9.

>>11815438
I noticed in my recent playthrough that the friendly monsters quest to beat Ozma is 100% opaque and requires a guide. Literally no one beat Ozma without outside help.

>>11815436
Are you autistic? you're taking the turn of phrase too literal. Replace it for walkthrough culture or whatever offends you less and try to understand my argument.

>>11815445
No, I just use words as their intended meaning, not some nebulous bullshit because I'm retarded/need a way to weasel out of being retarded.

>>11815440
True, I "never" use guides but did on repeat playthroughs for gold chocobo, ozma, finding garnet's real name etc. I never got any of that first time. It's all technically explained in the game but cryptic as hell.
But you actually don't have to do the friendly monsters sidequest to beat Ozma, it just makes it a lot easier.

>>11815456
You would've had to know the mechanics behind Thievery/Dragon's Crest/Frog Drop if you didn't use the friendly monsters. Either one requires a guide.

>>11815432
Source?

>>11815463
eat dick

>>11814987
I think it's hilarious how people like this got BTFO'd so hard by this very game having a side quest no one knew about for over a decade.
It's almost like it doesn't matter and the game was never designed for you to find and see everything in one playthrough.

>>11815461
Or, maybe they are rewards for good players who pay attention and use their intuition? Most players can max out thievery without trying. But I mostly agree, I had to look all that up too, but this sort of stuff is still fair in my mind. The game is about the discovery of adventure and finding hidden things.

>>11815472
>Most players can max out thievery without trying.
No, you're full of shit. I just completed a playthrough. I stole every single boss's entire stock and would steal in any random battle where Zidane had a free turn. Thievery ended up being around 2000. It takes an ungodly amount of grinding, way more than DC or FD.

The friendly monsters are also way beyond any "intuition." You have no way of knowing how many there are, where they are, and if the place your searching in is correct or not. I spent two fucking hours searching for the friendly Feather Circle, for example. It's just garbage, Square was trying their hand at maximum jewry with PlayOnline. FFIX sucks.

>>11814987
100% perfect run people are in the same cluster as speedrunners.

>>11815489
I disagree, and you're a vaccinated normalfag cow who isn't actually passionate about gaming.

>>11815470
This was later found out to be wrong. There was a guide on GameFAQs that had this sidequest before it was "discovered", and I think the PlayOnline guide had it too.

>>11815489
You're correct and >>11815492 is a defensive speed running freak

>>11815512
I've never speedran in my life, but there's nothing wrong with 100%ing games that you really like. You just don't actually like video games.

Do I need to give an ounce of shit about the lore of FF9 if I just want to fuck Freya?

>>11814987
you can actually abuse the clock overflow in the game to get it after the time limit

>>11815540
You'll never fuck Freya as hard as the writers did after Disc 1.

>>11815541
>just keep your system running for two years bro

>>11815547
Sounds like you aren't dedicated enough

>>11815550
Sounds like this game gave you stockholm syndrome.

>>11815540
Are you jewish?

>>11814740 (OP)
it looks so jarring with the contrast between the background detail and the font detail

>>11815540
The lore is entirely fan original headcannon to try and explain the weird fucking ending and the strange dissonance between disc 1 and disc 2.

>>11814740 (OP)
Wasn't it actually impossible to get this sword unless you physically manipulated the playstation by like opening the disc tray while it was spinning to skip cutscenes or something? Like who would ever think to try that unless they were following a guide?

>>11816443
It's very possible to get it even on PSX. Plenty of people have done it.
The game doesn't tell you it's there, you have to have outside knowledge. It's just a fun challenge run, there's no real use for the sword.

>>11816443
Excalibur II is there to trick you into thinking that FFIX is anything other than cock and ball torture. It's the SINGLE game that the sadistic japs decided to go nuts on. PlayOnline.

>>11816451
RPGs are time sinks. It's an adventure game, not torture. Before the internet something you could sink hundreds of hours into and still have things left to do was valuable to some people, and I was still on 56k when I played IX.

No hyperbole my sister did all of chocobo heaven and beat ff9 as a 13 year old. Only game she ever played more than 5 minutes of. No idea how she did it but yeah, it can be done and by someone young and w almost no gaming experience. I still haven’t beaten 9, although I love it and put tons of hours into it.

>>11816452
Yes, RPGs are time sinks. FFIX and X made them torture.
>Excalibur II
>Thunder Plains
>Chocobo Racing
You can't prove me wrong. These sadistic jap assholes are jackikng their two inch dicks over this shit.

>>11816459
I've done all of those things AND enjoyed them. Shit, I'd love to do ff7 chocobo racing to get the gold chocobo again. These games are about escapism. What do you play? 40 minute platformers?

>>11816465
I've done all of FFX and I can say this: you have stockholm syndrome.

>>11816467
If you enjoy it you enjoy it. Learn to like things in stead of looking for tiny reasons to hate everything.

>>11816468
Whatever.

>>11816471
That's the spirit!

>>11816472
>non-playstation version
Don't talk to me, weird jewish supremacist.

>>11816473
I still have my original discs from childhood, I bought it new 3x on PSX because I kept ruining my discs. I prefer modded PC, speed boosts make the game better and more difficult, that's worth it alone to me. That mod has run all the backgrounds through better upscaling software since that screenshot.

>>11816479
>that ass

>>11816450
>It's just a fun challenge run, there's no real use for the sword.
seriously, my first playthrough by the time i got to the end steiner was hitting the damage cap no problem anyways so the sword wouldn't have made any difference

>>11816479
>3x on PSX because I kept ruining my discs
The fuck did you do to them? All my PSX games still work.

>>11816564
I was 10-13, played it alot, and it was $20 greatest hits at wall market. I'm a really messy chaotic guy still 25 years later, I live in a sea of beer bottles and soda cans. I break stuff, I go through 3-5 keyboards a year. The last copy I bought still works.

>>11816564
i made a mess of one of my PSX demo cds using it for the swap trick

>>11816443
It's harder to do on the PAL version, but still possible.

>>11816629
Which third world country are you from?

>>11816569
bro you good?
i've gone through like 1 keyboard in the last 9 years and even as a kid I put my games back in the case unless I didn't like them really.

>>11815512
Based.

>>11817889
America

>>11816569
Sort it out.

>>11815515
>Waaaahhhh why can't I see everything on the first playthrough I should be able to 100% on the first go so I never have to replay it
Nah, YOU are the one who doesn't actually like video games
Sakaguchi is based for putting troll shit like Exaclibur 2 in the game

>>11814987
Completionists deserve every shitty quest.

>>11814987
>get everything else
>finish game
>reload last save and let the timer tick over
>finish game again
problem?