Thread 11819683

So the question is always asked by the new generation "why didn't they use the original art". And since I was a kid at the time of 4th Gen, I can say it's because we wouldn't have bought something with these original aesthetics. Picrel for example, I would have thought was e weird girls game and wasn't made by a reputable company. The image on the right, I might have bought because it looks like HeMan or Conan or something else I was familiar with. It still wouldn't be my first choice at a game store still because it's a girl and playing as a girl could get you labeled gay back then, but still a possibility where the original box wouldn't have been considered

>>11819683 (OP)
You're right, it's cultural. Anime came very late to America. Europeans would have been ok with the original box art.

>>11819683 (OP)
USA evidently had higher testosterone

>>11819835
Currently, Japs have about 10% more T than burgers. Not sure about the 90s, though.

>>11819842
bro, most jap men can't grow a beard and have sex with pillows

>>11819842
I believe it. Aren't half of americans obese kids from single moms or something

>>11819854
>Currently, Japs have about 10% more T than burgers. Not sure about the 90s, though.
There's a lot more to growing a beard than testosterone. I have abnormally high testosterone (medically confirmed - I started balding at 16 because of it), and I have sex with pillows.

>>11819858
Yes! Excess body weight is a huge contributor to low testosterone levels in men.

>>11819683 (OP)
Don't overthink it, anon. You wouldn't have bought it simply because it didn't use a visual language compatible with your cultural/consumer conditioning. Each image is exactly as Gay or Not Gay as its counterpart for the region it was or was not made for.

Part of it was marketing concerns in that era; obviously the Anime boom would later prove that Western mainstream consumers could actually find Japanese aesthetics appealing. But at that time, some American execs were even doubtful of local illustration/comic-book art aesthetics and instead demanded toy packaging-style illustrations. For example, the "motion lines" you can find in some covers like picrel were a classic staple of toy graphics, intended to convey motion/animation features. The European releases were more open to use the original Japanese artwork, partially because it was a good enough ersatz Western Fantasy Illustration in this case, but also because the Neo-Orientalism Boom had started in Europe a couple years before it did in America and publishers were more open minded about it by that point.

>>11819871
Gotta admit, USA mogs on this one too

>>11819683 (OP)
I've been saying this for years. Most of the people who complain about this are unable to see things from a different perspective than their own in the current year.
And then there are even those who pretend like "akkksthually anime was big in american in the early 90's!"

Japan was still an economical adversary for the US in the 80's and throughout most of the 90's, and as a result Japanese culture was not well recieved. Basically it's comparable to the way China is treated by the US now.

>>11819882
Genesis is too early, yeah, and even that cover isn't the type of anime that was considered cool. Cover art that looked like the cover of Ghost in the Shell or Akira was cool in the Playstation era.

>>11819683 (OP)
That's the usual explanation, but I always wondered why Working Designs deliberately showed off anime cutscenes in their magazine ads but still Americanized the package art. Seems to be at odds with itself.

>>11819943
Ads speak to their niche
Cover arts are supposed to speak to everyone and anyone that might just want to pick it up based on the cover alone, including parents who know nothing. An american parent would see an anime cover and assume it's a game for toddlers.

>>11819683 (OP)
It's because Americans are gay as fuck. Same reason they prefer super heroe comics over manga, because they rather look at gay muscle men than cute girls.

>>11819965
No one in America reads super hero comics.

I want to Dragoon her Alisia

>>11819683 (OP)
>tell us you're american without saying you're american
Luckily both pieces are fine in Alisia's case, but left still wins because it's more consistent with the in-game art.

90% of the time the japanese cover was better at the time, among Genesis / Mega Drive games High Seas Havoc was an exception, better western name too.

I've never received a satisfactory answer as to why they would collaborate with Gainax and not only have no tie-in animation, but not even anime style in-game cutscenes like El Viento or Valis.

>>11819943
>Americanized the package art
?
I had every Western release Working Designs game. I can't think of a single example of westernised package art with the exception of a few of the Turbo Grafx/Duo releases simply having the art removed and Vay inexplicably being altered despite the OG looking bad-ass as hell, even if Annie May style. What in the shitting fuck are your talking about?

>>11820025
>>11820179
I didn't even realize until after I posted that just now that Valis III wasn't working designs...I guess my puzzling over the ads & cover is still the same but now I wonder why I thought it was WD all these years

>>11820179
Well we can use this instead for the WD cover topic but I don't remember what CF2 magazine ads looked like, if there were any

>>11819683 (OP)
I like both
US cover looks like a 80s fantasy novel

>>11819842
>Not sure about the 90s, though.
The average male jap in the pre-2000s all look like chad yakuzamen, even all the visual kei j-punkstars.

Now they all look like true Yayoi decents

>>11820405
huh

>>11820179
Imagine an americanized Valis X

>>11819683 (OP)
I hate to sound like some sort of proto weeb here but anime art definitely appealed to me even as a kid. I bought the SNES Ranma game based on the art alone (not based on the US box art, I saw pics in a magazine)

>>11819683 (OP)
The box art should grab your attention and make you interested in turning it over to read the blurb and peruse the screenshots. However, that only matters if the player themselves is the one purchasing the game; American helicopter parents didn't let their children go outside except to go to school or church. Thus, American parents did all the shopping in the house, and bought games for their kids purely based on the front cover.

>>11819683 (OP)
Thanks for answering a question we all knew

>>11820583
>American helicopter parents didn't let their children go outside except to go to school or church
That's a more recent phenomenon. Didn't happen in the 80's and 90's.

>>11819683 (OP)
Right gives a sense of what the game is about, left is nice art but you'd have no idea what kind of game it is.

>>11819683 (OP)
Alisia Dragoon for Genesis was one of the only videogames where my dad looked at the cover and said that this shit is art.

Wish I knew who did that cover. I think it must have been the same artists as the one who did the cover for Mercs, the style is similar. I know Sega had Boris Vallejo on the payroll, but these covers weren't by him.

>>11820730
Meanwhile, this is the JP cover. I don't even know wtf is going on here. The american cover is actually way truer to the game, shows multiple in-game characters, several enemies and two bosses, many of the backgrounds the fighting takes place at, and even has the flamethrower look exactly like it does in game. About the only inaccurate part is that the Harrier shoots rockets when in the game it just uses its machine gun.

>>11819683 (OP)
>>11820405
both art is good because my penis likes it. the end.

>>11819972
>Gainax

used to be good.

>>11820730
Even in the 90s guys had flashlights on their guns. So funny that as much as I like doom 3, vanilla w the flashlight thing is just hilarious to me to this day.

>>11819683 (OP)
Here in the free world (USA), you cant get away using a colored pencil drawing as a game cover.

>>11820808
Explain this:
>>11820186

>>11820816
They didn't get away with it, no one bought it.

>>11819863
>I started balding at 16 because of it
...that's not the same type of androgen, retard. Baldie cope.

>>11819816
Robotech came out in the states in 1985

>>11819683 (OP)
You say this as if films like Akira didn't take the west by storm and anytime something with a Japanese art style came out untouched didn't pique interest.

>>11819683 (OP)
That japanese one just looks horrible, its overly anime look kills it.
The west was right for doign the conan the barbarian look on it.
Now their boxart for stuff like altered beast, ghouls'n ghosts or vampire killer looks amazing and was also (partly) brought to the west

>>11821075
Akira wasn't a nationwide phenomenon known by kids and parents, it was a niche film enjoyed by the niche crowd of teen to young adult outcasts that was the then mostly pornographic/gore exploitation OVA market

>>11821089
You sound like a handwringer.

>>11821152
I have no idea what that means but popular 90s cartoons include Gargoyles, Batman, X-Men, Darkwing Duck, Street Sharks etc

The box art for some TurboGrafx-16 games made them look more chintzy than they really are

>>11821075
Akira didn't look like most anime and still doesn't

>>11819854
>fuck a pillow like a dog
>thats somehow low testosterone
anon what do you think testosterone does lol

>>11820730
Because it actually *was* fine art. It was probably made by Boris Vallejo as an original painting first, then Sega just bought the rights to use the image. Larry Elmore is another American fantasy artist with a similar style. Just look up works by those artists and similar artists, you can probably find the painting it came from. They did this for Golden Axe also IIRC. Secret Of Mana though is an original work made specifically for the game by Hiro Isono, his art is just absolutely beautiful and looks influenced by Roger Dean who is known for his rock album covers.

JP MD box art however was fucking GOATed though, that and PCE but I rank MD a little bit higher.

Greatest single piece of video game art ever made right here

>>11820431
I see 5 absolute chads there

>>11819683 (OP)
It's kinda funny and weird how younger people like people born after 96 have a weird anti-western art thing going on now but I guess it's just how things go, anime was weird and dumb and now comics are ugly and dumb but I also notice lot of people have like a weird face autism and think anything with ground or realistic faces is ugly in art for some weird goddamn reason even if it's anime/manga like you show a kid Yoshiaki Kawajiri or Ryoichi Ikegami art, I bet they'll call it ugly cause it's more detailed and grounded face but if you made faces generic they like it. Most US boxart is fine and all the ''bad ones'' are rare exceptions honestly.
>>11820927
That's the ironic thing though no one thought any of the now as we call ''typical'' anime style back then they were just cartoons, they could sold shit as is but they scared of the market but like sure most shit would sell fine, it reminds me of my boomer dad playing Trauma Center and thinking nothing of the anime artstyle like most people didn't think jack shit about it just saw it as cartoons till people start making big deal pointing out differences

>>11819683 (OP)
Box art peaked with Atari.
https://readcomiconline.li/Comic/Art-of-Atari/TPB#1

>>11821261
>It was probably made by Boris Vallejo as an original painting first, then Sega just bought the rights to use the image.
The covers by Boris Vallejo (and his wife Julie Bell) are all well documented: Ecco 1-2, Eternal Champions, Golden Axe 1-2-3, Phantasy Star IV, Star Control, Splatterhouse 3, Strider 2, Wings of Wor). You'll notice that most of them have their signature on them as well.

Mercs and Alisia Dragoon was done by someone else. There's no artist signature visible on the image so it's impossible to tell who. Someone on the internet claims it was Greg Winters (he did tons of cover arts for Sega and Capcom), but his style is more cartoony and less Frazetta-like, so I doubt that those two games used his art.

>>11820927
A mishmashed mess of a series that was basically its own thing. If you really wanted to make a point, you'd mention Starblazers coming to the US earlier, or various older anime. The thing is, Speed Racer didn't really cause this big boom in people being interested in anime in the US, because just thought it was weird and funny. Kimba kinda did, but that was fairly niche and gave way to early furries
It's still true that many parts of Europe and parts of Latin America got plenty of anime before the US did, or ones we never got at all. We didn't even get the first half of Dragon Ball, and French also had a boom in interest over anime. There's a reason they made Totally Spies, it was basically playing off Cat's Eyes.

>>11819854
>muh burds
Which country leads in promoting Alphabet people and their deranged ways?

Moe anime art was novelty for me back then. You grew up with american cartoons, but real anime was still kind of new apart from stuff like Captain Future or whatever. Anytime I had a chance to consume it I gobbled it up like candy. I guess some people just don't like nice art with cute girls.

>>11821382
>That's the ironic thing though no one thought any of the now as we call ''typical'' anime style back then they were just cartoons
That's one things that's always weird to me. Especially when you consider that a lot of American cartoons were animated in Japan and we got exposed to a lot of "anime-isms" in animation for decades, whether we knew it or not. Or even weirder, some visual cues we view as "anime shit" is stuff cartoons have done forever too. I always wonder when the actual wall was built between these two styles in people's imagimations. The early 90's was still when localizers would through away the Japanese cover art of a game, but I've been reading through old Nintendo Power issues recently and you'll find Mario comics that just scream "drawn by a Japanese artist", to you. It's probably where a lot of millennial artists got their weeb style from without knowing, drawing in a way that wouldn't fit in Peanuts or Calvin and Hobbes.

>>11821979
It's stupid marketing bullshit that sperated anime/manga and it's why we got the autism about it today, other countries and Japan don't have that bullshit. I mean it's positive too because we only got some movies and shows because they were trying market shit as different but negative because now we got all this autism to artstyles.

>>11820749
They haven't been good since Daicon IV

>>11820749
They haven't been good since Daicon III

>>11819683 (OP)
>So the question is always asked by the new generation "why didn't they use the original art".
Nobody asks this. We all know why they did it. It's mocked today because they were wrong. Even in your own post you admit you didn't even buy that game despite its western art. It has nothing to do with anime being popular or not - that's retarded circular logic. How do you think anime art became popular? By selling product with anime art.

>>11819973
I would say like 99%. Only Mega Drive case I can recall right now where the american cover is better than the japanese one is Comix Zone. And it is earned 100%. That game is what the american output for the console should have been instead of ridiculous fart music and pillow shading games.

>>11821272
Where's the titular barrel though? It can't be the weapons' barrels, since those look light as fuck, not heavy barrels at all

>>11823571
Anime wasn't popular it was considered cheaply made, a lot of it is cute/girly and us Americans pre-Pokemon were macho as fuck

Kids who grew up on Arnold movies weren't buying something that looks like Hello Kitty or Sailor Moon , just a fact that for some reason triggers the weeaboos who weren't alive and the Japs who aren't American but post here because they're obsessed with being accepted by us

>>11819683 (OP)
Yeah, right looks like Conan, He-Man, or any number of bad ass fantasy things that were popular at the time. Biggest detractor is that there's a girl on the cover implied to be the character you play as. You'd rather play the guy who chops the heads off of any nerd or minotaur or whatever that gets in the way of you boning her while flying away on a dragon and shooting fireballs out of your ass. Some shit I never see zoomers talk about are the panel vans with airbrushed artwork just like this thay while uncommon were notorious enough that when you saw one you weren't shocked by it.

>>11823607
>Anime wasn't popular it was considered cheaply made, a lot of it is cute/girly and us Americans pre-Pokemon were macho as fuck
But Pokemon did sell, and it did have an anime style. This is why this logic is stupid. "Anime didn't sell, until these anime products sold well". Well maybe if other anime products kept their anime style it would've become popular earlier. The idea that publishers had to wait for anime to become popular before selling anime products is fucking stupid - the only way for anime to become popular is by selling anime products.

>Kids who grew up on Arnold movies weren't buying something that looks like Hello Kitty or Sailor Moon
But Hello Kitty and Sailor Moon DID come out in America, and they made millions of dollars. What the fuck are you arguing? The kids who grew up on Arnold movies didn't buy Alisia Dragoon even with its western art - the game was a flop outside Japan. Hey, maybe if they kept the anime cover, it would've sold to the same little girls who watched Sailor Moon.

>>11823621
>You'd rather play the guy who chops the heads off of any nerd or minotaur or whatever
No, the chick can shoot lightning out of her fingers like the motherfucking Emperor Palpatine in Star Wars, so she's got plenty of badassery going on and there's no shame whatsoever in playing as her.

>>11823637
>The kids who grew up on Arnold movies didn't buy Alisia Dragoon even with its western art

Horse shit, I grew up on Arnold movies (his best one was Last Action Hero), and I bought Alisia Dragoon way back in the 90s.

>>11823715
How would you feel if you didn't have breakfast this morning?

>>11823717
I never have breakfast in the morning.

>>11823607
>Kids who grew up on Arnold movies weren't buying something that looks like Hello Kitty or Sailor Moo
But that's exactly what I did. I had an Arnie poster on my wall as a kid and I was also heavily into Sailor Moon and other anime.

>>11819683 (OP)
It's nice to see even in the 90s the West was creating women that looked like men.

>>11823973
>If it's not pedophilia it's a man
Anime is the biggest pedo hub not called judaism

>>11823973
If you'd ever seen women who did regular even mild workout, you'd know that real women can have muscles too.

>>11820794
>Even in the 90s guys had flashlights on their guns
In the 1980s special forces used fuckhuge flashlights mounted to their guns. Pic related is a scuba waterproof flashlight that they painted black and mounted it in place of the grenade launcher. These were used in panama right through desert storm when special forces went in SCUD hunting.

Surefire made handgun lights starting in 1988 but special forces were still improvising other flashlights well into the 90s. Sometimes it was just a common maglite put in riflescope rings. So not as bulky as what you see on the cover tgere, but they were indeed used.

anime is trash

>>11820179
That logo is peak commercial design, Americans know how to sell games with female leads

>>11823591
They didn't get the components, yet presumably.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WRy2MLavHVM&t=8m

>>11819683 (OP)
right just looks better

>>11823591
They didn't get the components yet, presumably. 8 minute mark:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WRy2MLavHVM&t=8m&0s

>>11824042
>pedophilia
What

>>11825808
>Level 2 only by the time you reach Flying Stronghold Barunga

yeah, you deserve to die. you should be level 3 or 4 by then.

>>11819683 (OP)
>>11819882
You have bad taste in box art and thats why western games suck compared to Japan. Your comic industry is in the trash, along with your movie and animation industries LOL

>>11823710
>there's no shame whatsoever in playing as her.
None at all if you're the type of guy that wants to bang He-Man. No judgments bro, it's 2025, bang whoever you want as long as it's legal and consensual.

>>11819683 (OP)
One of the few examples where the western boxart is an improvement over the jap one
Some other examples are golden axe 2, Castlevania 4 and Contra 3

>>11826098
There's never been an anime fan with big muscles and a sports car so I fear it has a gaying effect like onions

>>11826098
>The most famous of Japanese game mascots Mario and Sonic are both redwhitenblue American stereotypes
>Most of the beloved Japanese gaming franchises like Castlevania, Contra, and Metroid are based on American media like classic horror, Arnold Schwarzenegger films, and Alien/Aliens
>Even things that seem explicitly Japanese like Street Fighter or Ninja Gaiden are heavily influenced by American film depictions of martial arts and ninjas

Yikes !

>>11819683 (OP)
I honestly would have thought the left was weird as shit in the late '80s to early '90s. You do have to be acclimated to manga images. But I did watch Voltron. The early '80s Gundam kind of style with less extreme eyes and proportions could get by OK.

>>11819683 (OP)
>It still wouldn't be my first choice at a game store still because it's a girl and playing as a girl could get you labeled gay back then
>>11819835
>USA evidently had higher testosterone
>live life in constant fear
>"they might think I'm gay D:"
>real-life decisions deictated by fear and what others think
hella hight t br0

>>11819683 (OP)
What's the first game with an anime as fuck cover or arcade cabinet art that sold well in the US? I remember Suikoden seeming kind of old fashioned to have a Westernized art cover in '96, and it was gone by Suikoden 2.

>>11821967
probably the one that blamed judas and anime for "pedophilia"? (it's the latinx people. probably) >>11824042

>>11821965
>There's a reason they made Totally Spies, it was basically playing off Cat's Eyes.
I've never watched Totally Spies but iinm, it's Italian or a French/Italian joint venture, yeah? I'm from Italy. Cat's Eyes (Occhi di gatto) was enormously popular in the 80s and the theme song was a banger (not as good as Jem's, tho).
Occhi:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H_oDhrBsVFA
Jem:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1fUt99AvHo8

And just for giggles, Sailor Moon:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zZTlN3YkCuc
All the same bitch singing, btw

>>11828649
Well shit. The faggot blocked it. Here's another for Occhi di gatto:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WtlJBlun9dY

>>11823327
>>11823364
I know it's a joke but
>Not liking Royal Space Force

>>11828657
>>11828649
the french theme songs for anime were always so weird. I remember the ones for Candy Candy and Dragon Ball (non-z). They wrote entire new original theme songs.

>>11819683 (OP)
US version is better. I love that classic fantasy art work. I used to browse the fantasy section of my local used book store just looking at the cover art. I once won a poster at the county fair of a wizard fighting a dragon. I wish I still had it.

>>11829307
So did Italy, but ours actually fit the cartoon. That Sailor Moon one is obviously inspired by the OG theme but it's very much its own thing.
>Candy Candy
I honestly can't even remember the theme song in Italian but my mother loved that cartoon like mad. That and Lady Georgie because what says cartoon for kids like an incestuous love triangle between a girl and her brothers?
Candy Candy and Rascal made an entire generation of Italian children want raccoons for pets.

>>11825808
That's the easiest level in the game.

>>11830003
>That's the easiest level in the game.

The part with the turrets is a slog if you are under leveled, since the turrets all have a ton of HP. Up until that point you could just go forward and burn down everything as you went (with one or two exceptions), then suddenly you have to turtle against heavy turret defenses. It is slow and methodical at best, until you learn where the extra level ups are.

I can't stop thinking about the covers for Phantasy Star 1 personally. It's a faithful enough localization of one of the more anime art pieces for 1, yet if they felt that anime was too cringe for American audiences, would a boy still want to buy something with a girl on the cover?

>>11819881
Bit cartoonish

>>11831946
>Players: 1 (5 if games are saved and alternated)
imagine you and 4 of your friends sitting on the couch and taking turns who gets to play their save file next.

>>11831967
You never got 5 people together and played JRPGs with hotseat alternating multiplayer? What's wrong with you?

Why do weebs and Japs get so spergy about anime not being liked or even the fact that it wasn't always popular. You touchy fem shitheels are worse than people who scream racist when you say you hate rap

>>11829393
Was it this one, bro?

>>11820889
You have no idea what you're talking about

>>11828547
Anime regularly sexualized minors and pedophilia itself only gets you like two years jail in Japan. It's a cultural difference

>>11819683 (OP)
Sometimes they used the original art. It was just a case by case basis. The technology just wasn't there yet for Cuda cores to generate the art after a large learning base.

>>11833082
>anime kids are real pedos
not this shit again. also grape is more than 2 years in nippons. why do you trannies lie so much? >>>/lgbt/scum

>>11828607
what does this mean? SiHill flopped so hard in nipponz, it became a western series?

>>11833082
>Anime regularly sexualized minors
saturday morning cartoons did so as well. or worse, promoted furries.

>>11833179
this look so fucking hilarious

>>11833601
>>11833196
Wrong

>>11834314
Not wrong. Case in point: we have an entire board for ponies.

>>11834483
just because people sexualize western shows (largely, a result of the weeaboo generation of late millennials-early zoomers aging up) doesn't mean those shows sexualize themselves

anime does, even normie anime like dragonball were obsessed with "jokes" like "old man molests young girl/sniffs young girls undies ho ho ho"

>>11834530
>doesn't mean those shows sexualize themselves
Nigger are you serious? Cartoons have been sexualizing themselves as far as Betty Boop a hundred years ago. Pic related is from a show where a wolf literally tries kidnapping and raping a go go dancer. Same series had half a dozen variants on this theme, plus a version where a horny grandma was trying to rape the wolf. They even had an episode where a clown saved a girl from drowning and then she married him and they actually showed that she got pregnant and gave birth to 200 children (Fifi the Flea). These cartoons aired in Cartoon Network during my childhood.
Speaking of CN they had Johnny Bravo, an entire show about Chad trying to score with hot chicks.
And if we go into movies I could mention basically any Disney Princess, Tinkerbell, Lola from Space Jam, the older sister from Lilo & Stitch, etc. Chel in El Dorado gets caught giving a blowjob. And TV cartoons, even when they did not have had overly sexual designs, flew plenty of shit under the radar. 2 Stupid Dogs had a strip club with the stripper shown undressing, and they had implied incest with the Brady Bunch kissing each other. Cow & Chicken had biker chicks literally munching the carpet. Johnny Bravo had a guy giving a girl the D (a huge letter, to "show her you really do give a damn"). Even Powerpuff Girls defeated their enemies by seducing them at one point.

Shit I'm not even bringing up Totally Spies which has several different fetishes for every episode.

>a result of the weeaboo generation of late millennials-early zoomers
Toons getting porn parodies happened as soon as toons existed, look up the Tijuana Bibles. Then they boomed in the 60s underground comics scene. Zimmerman made tens of thousands of pics going as far back as the 80s. I have porn comics from the 90s that were sold in the newsstands. This shit always existed, the internet just made it easier to find.

>>11821967
>gays contribute to low testosterone

>>11834978
>Posts an adult woman from a cartoon, specifically one that when it premiered was made for adults anyway
I'll read the rest of your post later but it starts off idiotic. You seem to not understand what underaged means among other things

>>11819683 (OP)
What if they sold both covers in the United States and just put one on the girls’ side and the other on the boys’ side?

>>11821382
>That's the ironic thing though no one thought any of the now as we call ''typical'' anime style back then they were just cartoons,
>...it reminds me of my boomer dad playing Trauma Center and thinking nothing of the anime artstyle like most people didn't think jack shit about it just saw it as cartoons till people start making big deal pointing out differences
I was intrigued by this idea that was shared by some others in this thread, that anime and cartoons looked the same to people back then with some claiming artstyles were more similar in the past, so I spent an hour compiling this comparison between animated shows in the USA and Japan, 1992 versus 2024.

>>11835281
Before Korean outsourcing became a thing, cartoons were often outsourced to Japan. Many 80s cartoons are, essentially, anime.

>>11835920
Growing up as an 80s kid in yurp, i didn't separate nipponaise cartoons from lardgolem ones. Nobody did. We liked Alvin and Denver just as much as we liked Lamù and Ranma.

What's the use case for the fire breathing dragon? All of the other ones have some use somewhere in the game, but I don't know where a slow forward shot is ever useful.

>>11835920
It's not just outsourcing, many cartoons were straight up coproduction. Maya, Nils Holgersson, Moomins...

>>11833648
Whatever it takes to sell in the domestic market, just consider the famous story about the game cover to Phalanx. That's why marketing gets paid the big bux in the lion's share of a video game's development/

>>11836171
Dragons are the mascot of fantasy

>>11823637
>But Pokemon did sell, and it did have an anime style


Is that why they stripped the anime and games of anything japanese and their original tone and dialogue for ever and ever by the localizers?

>>11835281
>Conan

Oh you poor little sap

>>11819816
this. old world and new world. Americunts were always quite dumb

>>11819881
Leonardo's work on the left and some bona fide Deviantart dude on the left

>>11838058
*right. fuck me

>>11828607
SH1: EU
SH2: US
SH3: EU
SH4: JP
Origins: EU
HC: US
SM: any of them
DP: JP

>>11838053
Americans eat steak and potatoes

You eat garbage and rice (white garbage)

>>11835143
Me in the back

>>11835920
Even cartoons that feel as intrinsically America like the Rankin Bass Christmas specials were animated in Japan
>>11836864
I really don't understand how hard it is for Americans to make something even cheap and fast attractive and appealing.
But this does explain everything. Some artists who might be far removed from weebery as they can possibly be still have some anime influence in them. You can tell. And it's likely because they picked it up subconsciously or didn't know what they liked was made in Japan.

>>11828649
I know that Fist of the North Star was pretty popular in Italy, and some other romcom anime that almost no one else has heard of but was big enough in Italy to get its own Italian live-action adaptation
>it's Italian or a French/Italian joint venture, yeah
Marathon, the creators, were French. But they also adapted Martin Mystery, which is an Italian comic, in the Totally Spies style. So I wouldn't be surprised.
Then you got Italian comics like WITCH that are aggressively 00's weeb, at least in the comic's art.

>>11838878
Anime style is literally just making Disney but autistic
>BIGGER EYES
>BIGGER HEAD
Subconscious attraction to children is all

>>11838903
This. It's for weirdos.

>>11838885
>and some other romcom anime that almost no one else has heard of but was big enough in Italy to get its own Italian live-action adaptation
lol
That's probably Kiss me, Licia. And the live action adaptation stars the same bitch singing the theme songs in >>11828649 lmao
Here's the theme song for the cartoon. She sings this one, too:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wxlTMGkA7no

>>11838784
it's documented that Americans eat literal shit on a daily basis and that's another reason for the crappy box artworks they got

>>11839561
I was gonna say that you're thinking Russians but they're basically the same thing now.

>>11838903
>>11839427
its the real gay frog water
japans revenge for the bombs

>>11819683 (OP)
Only child molesters prefer the left one

I prefer the left one.

>>11836091
Based.