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>Try to keep things /vr/ related: Focus should be on 6th Gen Consoles and older. Slight off topic is fine so long as it's related to CRTs, such as later 16:9 models, HD models, etc. Systems with backwards compatibility are also safe territory, as are re-releases on newer hardware. PC CRTs are also welcome and appreciated.
>Produce OC! Bust out your camera and take photos of your CRTs displaying all sorts of games, featuring all sorts of tubes, using all sorts of signals. Getting good shots can be hard, but if you take enough, at least a few will turn out alright.
>Try and give as much information as possible when asking for info on a specific set, or troubleshooting an issue to expedite and help you may receive. As always, Google is your friend and we are your friends with benefits. Do people read this? Older archived threads aren't a bad place to look either; Seriously, there's literally 6 years of backlog at this point.
>Share appreciation for others choice of technology and personal philosophy of gaming. Always remember to show courtesy in your discussion and moderate yourselves first.

Limited discussion of video processing and scaling devices is alright, but remember to keep the focus on CRTs and CRT accessories.

CRT Pastebin (Never Ever) : http://pastebin.com/1Ri5TS3x
Guide to CRT Hunting : http://pastebin.com/H9H9L2LQ
Guide to Video Monitors : http://pastebin.com/pQX4N6gZ
General Purpose CRT Adjustment Guide : http://www.arcaderepairtips.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/guide_setup_adjust_arcade_monitors_v1.2.0.pdf
S-Video Pasta : http://pastebin.com/rH2h6C7W
BKM-10R Protocol Info : http://pastebin.com/aTUWf33J
JVC RGB card cloning guide : https://pastebin.com/EXqMBfcY

Finally got myself a CRT. What's the best light gun for the Sega Saturn? And what's the best for the PS2 if I wanna play PS1 and PS2 light gun games?

I got a unit with a DVD player built in. I can hear the drive spinning but the disc tray won't open. Is it worth trying to get in there to fix it? I've done minor repairs like that before, but I've heard you shouldn't fuck with CRTs so I dunno.
I sure do love playing retro video games on it though.

Okay, how do I actually use that geometry suite with the grid that you people love? Had a CRT for years and the picture options are a bit limited. Is it software which is burned to a disc and played in a console?

>>11821087
>Is it software which is burned to a disc and played in a console
240p test suite does this. But depending on your TV you could also try the service menu

>>11820774
https://segaretro.org/Virtua_Gun

>>11820754 (OP)
previous thread
>>11787335

>>11821439
>245 replies then archived
Dead threads
Dead hobby

>>11821087
240p test suite for wii, and other consoles
https://artemiourbina.itch.io/240p-test-suite

>>11820754 (OP)
Hey, thanks for the actual OP Anon! Glad to see someone took my advice

picked up a boomer set. they had the tube replaced shortly before getting a new tv so it might last a bit longer than i initially expected it to.

>>11820912
>Is it worth trying to get in there to fix it?
I would say no because dvd players cost nothing and you can get very small ones. thats also a piece of tech you can actually still find at thrift stores. to me, not worth the time, but maybe you would enjoy it from a hobbyist perspective.

>>11820774
you can find some out there that have dual compatibility w/ PS1 and Saturn. However, later on Namco would make some minor changes to their guns so certain features might not work on older guns. I cant really remember because light gun games are something I play once and forget. Short answer, there may not be "the one" lightgun that will serve all your needs.

re-playing ace combat 2 via the Namcollection on PS2 since I never played that version. Very good version of the game. runs solid, game is all in english. might be my go to over the original PS1 version.

I got a sanyo flat screen unit recently, the color looks wonderful after some tweaking in the service menu, but linearity is a mess on the left side. I have it connected to a ps2 via component and a rpi 4 via composite. The rpi 4 is a great little machine, with lakka composite build installed, it plays swanstation and flycast at full speed, performance of the saturn core is bad but it is not like saturn got good games anyway. Also libreelec works pretty well under 480i composite mode, it plays 10bit hevc content without any issue.

>turn on crt
>its plug forces itself out of the surge protector outlet slightly
Is this bad news? It seems to be happening consistently.

>>11821451
Basically. People who were interested in them and either had them already, bought some when they were still cheap and more plentiful, or had/have the means to buy them for inflated prices have largely moved on from here or stopped caring. The majority of this board are now late zoomers and/or thirdies who have a meltdown whenever anybody suggests a setup which isn't just "emulator + whatever modern monitor they got with their PC"

>>11822447
>or stopped caring enough to take new photos
Fixed. I'm sure there's still some oldfags here, but not enough to keep the threads alive.

>>11820912
it's more likely than not a belt that needs replacing or a gear that needs greasing (trivial) or a broken gear (i dunno how best to address that). it's definitely possible to troubleshoot, but the player probably isn't in an easily accessible place inside, necessitating extensive disassembly. the only advantage to the internal dvd player is that it might use s-video or better internally to deliver the video signal to the rest of the crt. if you care about that sort of thing, it might be worth it to you if there's only composite or rf input on the set. crt repairs are doable, but there is high voltage and implosion risk, so take proper precautions.

pvms have been hoarded out of existence you literally cant even find them on ebay anymore

>>11823115
>but the player probably isn't in an easily accessible place inside,
Yeah, I'm just gonna say fuck it and either continue using my modern TV as my sole DVD/BD player or get a VCR/DVD player combo. VHS tapes count as retro video games, right?
Thanks for the advice anons. Happy CRT gaming!

it's over

>>11822072
>might be my go to over the original PS1 version.
why?

>>11823256
I can see plenty in the UK, some not even ridiculously priced (£150)

>>11822450
>Fixed. I'm sure there's still some oldfags here, but not enough to keep the threads alive.
This, but it applies for the entire /vr/

>>11822447
When you already have at least one CRT, there's not that much to discuss really. When your setup just werks, you're supposed to play games, not obsess over it. CRTs are awesome, but it's a display technology. For most people, that has always been just a means to an end.

>>11823316
>spoiler
between pic related and the terebikko i don't see why not

>>11822131
>lakka composite build
Thanks for mentioning this, liking it so far.

>>11823256

Overrated to hell and back anyways.

>>11822447
>The majority of this board are now late zoomers and/or thirdies who have a meltdown whenever anybody suggests a setup which isn't just "emulator + whatever modern monitor they got with their PC"

Brutal accuracy.

It ain't much, but it's mine. The TV and entertainment center were both free. I want to try refinishing the entertainment center and cutting some wood shelves out for the middle of it, since it has the little pegs to hold them already. But for now, I'm very happy to just have a CRT setup :)

>>11824758
>DW
based. now do yourself a favor and get flash carts for the nes and genesis if you haven't already.

>>11824771
>fellow DW enjoyer
Which one's your fav? 5 looks great on this hunk of junk. I'm honestly surprised, because I'm going from a RetroTINK 5x on a midrange modern TV to this and this just looks infinitely better. I forgot how much better CRTs actually are compared to LCDs.
>got my first lcd some time after the ps3 dropped
>remember being incredibly pissed because it was simultaneously blurry and ultra aliased and looked like trash compared to my family's ancient CRT

>>11824803
the PS2 arguably more than any other console was built specifically around using and abusing how CRTs generated their picture, that said 5 is the one we spent the most time on, I had a finely tuned Ling Tong built for juggling officers to get the highest stat boosts each time

>>11824803
4 Empires is the one I spent the most with, and the one that I am most fond of.
>I'm going from a RetroTINK 5x on a midrange modern TV to this and this just looks infinitely better. I forgot how much better CRTs actually are compared to LCDs.
Soon you'll be like the rest of us with multiple CRTs stored away. I have 5 right now (4 tvs, 1 monitor). Gotta hoard em before they're gone because they're never coming back.

>>11823256
VGA monitor+shader of your choice for 240p content will give you the exact same experience for a fraction of the cost

>>11825017
>>11825070
Based. I spent so much time on 5 Empires on the Xbox 360 grinding characters my friends, family and I made. Such a great series. And yeah I'm gonna be on the lookout for more CRTs in the future in case mine dies for some reason. I think the best part about having a CRT is not having to turn on the Retrotink and fiddle with menus and do a bunch of bullshit when I just wanna play games. I've got an auto a/v switcher hooked up so I just turn the TV and console on and I'm ready to go. Less hassle is always a good thing God Bless America

>>11823925
has cleaner textures and is a tad bit sharper.

>>11825094
you've never compared it to a real crt because vga monitor with shaders looks like shit. You lose significant brightness and compensating for it crushes blacks

>>11826378
Isn't it just 480i?

>>11820754 (OP)
>tfw bought the meme trinitron
fucking scanlines
never was the case for my old daewoo tv

>>11826858
That has nothing to do with it being a Trinitron
How big is your TV?

Does anybody know of any good 5+ out automatic composite a/v switches? Component is fine too as long as it's automatic.

>>11826858
-What is your issue you fucking nigger?

Here's Eliza running on a P2000T in the Philips Museum in Eindhoven that I visited last week. She's kinda stupid and can't really answer anything without going in circles with the few hardcoded responses, but nonetheless it's cool for being an early attempt at a chatbot.

>>11820754 (OP)
>found picrel for free, has non functional DVD player but I also own 11 things that can play a DVD.
How'd I do? 13" apex, it seemed like a shitty off brand from 2002, but idk. I was cool with my flat-screen but my kids absolutely love the SNES on the little TV.
>my hopes
My ps2 looks dark as shit on my 40" toshiba, I have a 20" video monitor that is bright enough but I was really hoping crt would be bright. Only hooked the n64 and the NES/Sega/Snes 3 in one machine. Some of shadows of the empire was darker on the art than my Toshiba. Did I grab a shit crt, or am I just tuning it improperly

>>11827627
damn getting any for free is cool theyre all expensive near me people put the shittiest crts on facebook as like "retro gaming tv" for a 100 quid kek

>>11827627
if its early 2000s you might be able to check hours on the unit via service menu. probably not with a brand like apex but could be worth looking up to see.

>>11827637
I literally had a woman there say she had a much bigger one she needs to get rid of and took my phone number. I'll probably hold onto this one specifically because it's a small 13". Right now it's the 5th screen in my office/gaming room

>>11827627
Take the rear panel off and adjust the 'screen' pot on the flyback. You can increase the brightness of clapped out CRTs by tuning that, albeit likely at the expense of future lifespan. Still, if it's too dim and the normal controls do nothing to fix it, you have nothing to lose really.

>>11827686
>>11827640
Ty anons, I checked it out again and it's more than passable. Turned the brightness up and it's fine. I honestly wanted to get another crt just to take part in these threads.
>>11827284
Someone I knew had a copy of Dr sbaitso, we would endlessly fuck with it like your picrel
>
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dr._Sbaitso

>>11827748
https://youtu.be/sV3pYZZ2jEw?si=FExpD1MlAaLteNGO
The number reading impressed me

does anyone else watch /vr/ vhs? or any vhs.

>>11827831
I would if I had a vhs

>>11827831
I bought a ton of VHS a while back, but downloading torrents and hooking up the PC to the CRT TV is still easier.

>>11827853
what do you use for that? theres a lot of vhs rips on archive.org that would be cool to watch on a crt.

I got a universal remote and fixed my TV's picture

>>11827981
>divx logo
very soulful

it would be pretty easy to just make new crts from raw materials. just buy some vaccum tubes and phosphor, some wires for electron emitters and you're good to go.

>>11827831
I sit naked in my basement and pop a tape in to watch while im eating my supper.

>>11828008
Yeah you’re right anon, that’s super easy. Good luck with that!

>>11827681
nice get the big one and keep them both lol

>>11827831
yeah i bought a bunch of pokemon vhs tapes and a really nice vhs player its pretty small, this is my second vhs player the one i got before this ate the tape of my pokemon 2000 and i had to take it apart and really carefully untangle it lol

Does anyone fix or maintenance crts anymore? I'd be happy to pay for parts and labor. Doesn't matter how far away(so long as they're in the US); I'd just drive it to them and make a vacation out of it

>>11827831
i have like 500 or so tapes at this point. every time i visit a thrift store i grab a handful of new stuff if anything is even mildly interesting, even in a bad way.

>>11827979
ps3 and 360 both have decent media playback capabilities, usually best for 720p or less in x264 mp4s; they can handle some 1080p stuff but its gotta be pretty low bitrate. ps3 is easier to mod and you can install movian which will allow you to play mkv files.

the first gen apple tv also has composite a/v outputs and supposedly works pretty well but i haven't used it. i think there's an early roku model with composite out too.

>>11827979
If it's anywhere near a PC you can use a cheap hdmi-composite adapter which makes the TV work as a second monitor.

>>11828409
https://www.savethecrts.org/repair.html

>>11828483
Nice, one of the few repair shops in my country is just down the road.

>>11828483
>The UK has a grand total of TWO and they're both down south
Grim.

>>11827831
nah vhs is shit quality best left in the past. at least get a DVD

>>11828498
the shit quality makes shit cgi look passable, it's also great for horror. picrel is a great example since it was shot on a consumer digital video camera

>>11828508
I've never seen a case where VHS looks better than DVD quality. using VHS is just some kind of zoomer fetish

>>11828496
Better than Australia which has a grand total of <none> on the map at least
I do know of a guy near Newcastle who does RGB scart mods, but he's one of those guys who care more about doing the RGB mod than tuning the convergence and geometry.

If you're just looking for someone who can do circuit board maintenance I'm sure you could call around. They might never have worked on one in their life but if you just need a full cap replacement and some solder touch ups there has to be some electronics repairmen around that might take the job on to break up the monotony of replacing laptop screens and batteries.

>>11828512
>>11828498
VHS was always a shit medium, I've had AV professionals say that they felt the jump in quality from VHS to DVD was more noticeable than from DVD to BR and I think they're right.
I like all kinds of retro tech, I even have a 16mm projector and a few film prints, but VHS is just absolute shite.

>>11828512
Real retro viewing enthusiasts get their anime on laser disk

>>11828512
the first three words in my response was agreement on the quality, consider reading posts before responding to them. nobody is arguing that vhs has higher fidelity compared to dvd, I'm arguing that lower fidelity works in favor of early cgi as well as horror

>>11828520
laserdisk is objectively better for every criteria except availability

>>11828518
I understand seeking VHS when it's some kind of rare movie that isn't on DVD. Live broadcast recordings are interesting too. But claiming the CGI suddenly looks bad on DVD is retarded when the movies were made for giant theater screens to begin with.
>>11828520
Laser disc is 100x more acceptable than VHS. Still makes more sense to download and stream or buy DVD though.
>>11828521
Can you post an example where it looks better because of the shit quality? I've never watched a DVD horror movie and thought it would be better if it was 352x240 with noise and artifacts all over the screen.

>>11828524
You can get the same result with DVD simply using composite output.

>>11828526
Early CGI is painfully obvious the higher the resolution gets, you can get away with a lot of cheap effects when there is less image to scrutinize. Early CGI aside, a gritty genre such as horror benefits from having a gritty medium, some filmmakers chose objectively inferior recording methods either out of budgeting necessity or by choice of style such as texas chainsaw massacre and night of the living dead or blair witch and cloverfield. As for examples, I can't give any that you wouldn't immediately dismiss as looking worse, because looking worse is the whole point I'm making. It doesn't have to look good to be enjoyable to watch and can be a subjective improvement when you aren't concerned about fidelity. Cheepnis.

>>11828541
There's no case where a movie needs to be 352x240 to look good. DVD is always superior.

>>11828543
>It doesn't have to look good to be enjoyable to watch and can be a subjective improvement when you aren't concerned about fidelity.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ckEP8KN2710

>>11828518
It's comfy but I've been into it since the late 00s (rare films only available on tape). The new zoomer interest in it is pretty gay.

>>11828550
How is it an objective improvement when it's objectively worse than DVD?

>>11828520
I do love Laserdisc but good luck when the player breaks.

>>11828550
Oh you said subjective nevermind I'm retarded. I just want to see some screencap examples of VHS looking better than DVD.

>>11828579
how thick are you

>>11828578
True, the 2spooky analog horror aesthetic shit completely misses the point

>>11828606
Seen way too "found footage" games that use a VHS filter (at 1080p) and seem to imply video can do things like use dial-up. Also the new trend of films released last year that are put out on bootleg tapes at an extortionate cost.

>>11828582
You expected someone to magically present lower resolution images appearing better on a high resolution display? I appreciate your openness but c'mon

>>11827831
For what purpose? This is a bad medium that died for a reason.

>>11828610
Don't forget the obnoxious scanline warbling on a recording camera. Anyone who doesn't know how to rip media to VHS deserves to be ripped off

>>11828615
It's an undead medium kept alive by hardware enthusiasts who know that pinch rollers need to be replaced before they eat your tapes

are these like...fine? i don't really want to spend 25 bucks on the insurrection s-video cable because i want to get one for my ps systems and dreamcast also, even though i know they're good.

>>11828614
I'll look at them on my CRT. what stuff looks better?

>>11828635
Probably not. I've never had a saturn but I bought retrobit s-video cables for dreamcast and they were bad. Heavy audio buzzing, checkerboarding, and the colors were off. In my limited experience you don't want to cheap out on SCART or s-video because they need better shielding than composite/component over RCA connectors.

>>11828635
>>11828668
I bought a cheap chink Dreamcast RGB cable and it has audio buzzing (of course never mentioned in the reviews). I took it apart and saw than there is no shielding. I think the buzzing problem is worse on the consoles which have a common ground pin for all signals. Dreamcast does, while PS2 for example has a dedicated ground for video, which I guess mitigates some of the problem

>>11828685
Interesting. I gave up on cheap SCART cables because of bad audio buzz. It sucks that it's either $5 for a shitty cable or overkill and overpriced at like $50. I wish there was something acceptable in between in the $20-$30 price range

>>11828498
i have both. some stuff i have on dvd, others on vhs. i grew up using vhs and dvd (eventually) so they are both fine to me in their own ways.

>>11828579
>objectively worse
lofi horror is kino. shut the fuck up until you have a soul.

>>11828512
i dont really think thats true. whenever i see vhs groups online they're 90% people in their 40s and 50s.

>>11828652
Try comparing 28 Days Later. Sure the higher resolution and aspect ratio may appear better, but the lower resolution of VHS displays the crappy camera used for filming better. You do have a copy of 28 Days Later on VHS and not a crappy webrip, right?

>>11828805
I recently bought a very cheap and old male-male SCART cable, with the intention to wire it up for a Dreamcast myself. I confirmed that it's shielded, now I just need to buy some capacitors and solder everything correctly. When I get around to doing it, I'll post whether or not this gets rid of the audio buzz. It should be fine, because I have:

>Expensive PS2 SCART RGB cable - no buzz
>Cheap piece of shit, unshielded Dreamcast composite cable - very minimal, barely audible buzz

I think the buzz is bad in cheap RGB cables, because there are so many different wires carrying different signals, and it's made even worse if the signals having a single common ground. The scart socket itself is probably fine, as it's pretty spacious so the signals shouldn't interfere too much there

>>11828846
You are an enormous faggot.

I want a crt, does anyone live in central valley CA, and willing to trade for a good small one with component

>>11828483
Most appreciated anon

I love Blue Revolver!

>>11829059
Posting from a pixel - why does it always rotate my images 90 degrees when I upload them here?

Can anyone recommend a simple, cheap convert for HDMI to Composite, so I can use my emulation box on my CRT?

>>11829059
nokia made crts?

>>11829084
4chan strips metadata so you don't pwn yourself with GPS and personally identifying metadata. Unfortunately that also strips the exif:orientation field that your camera app is setting to denote a portrait image. You have to edit the photo and save it with the rotation applied so it does a "hard" rotation and not a "soft" metadata flag.

>>11828805
unfortunately just like hdmi some things are expensive because they want to fleece you and not because they are good, some things are underpriced and amazing value. And good luck figuring out which is which. And reviews are no help because the one you buy today is unlikely to be related to the one the youtuber bought 6 months ago. "Chonky" is a reasonably good indicator of decent shielding. Personally I just pay whatever to get some meme cable because it's something I'll be using forever, no point trying to save $10.

I recently got a Sony KV-29DS1, physically in excellent condition, but it seems to have been badly affected by magnetism at some point.

I'm using a Hozan HC-31 degaussing wand, and while it definitely affects the screen (I can move the blotches around and sometimes nearly erase them from one side), they always return to the exact same positions after power cycling. I've tried multiple techniques like slow spirals, pulling away, and flicking. Flicking seems to be the most effective. The left side now clears much more easily than before.

It is unlikely this is permanent damage since the colors can be corrected temporarily, but it keeps reverting. I’ve attached a picture to show what I’m dealing with. Any insight or advice would be appreciated.

>>11830084
It sounds like the AG is damaged and power cycling it degausses it returning it to it's damaged state. When you use the degaussing wand you are just temporarily fixing it by pulling the phosphor strips. The fact that a whip type motion "fixes" it definitely makes me suspect that. If it was just a remnant magnetic field then circular motions with the degaussing wand would be the most effective. Does swiping in 1 direction fix it more than swiping the other way?

I got a Raspberry Pi 3B+, planning on getting the RCA cable now. Should I use Retropie or Batocera? Which one is easier to set up for 240p?

>>11830084
Get a couple of 5 inch magnets from some old sound speakers and place them on the TV. Move them around until the colors are correct and then leave them there.

>>11830389
nta really but is this a troll post or something that would actually work? i'm a based retard.

>>11828512
I have a large vhs collection because its still the cheapest option to grab something that looks neat for a dollar or less, and unless its from the early 80s or spectacularly fucked, its perfectly fine for watching if you dont give a fuck about ultra high fidelity whatever shit.

>>11830084
>they always return to the exact same positions after power cycling.
either inner shielding of the TV is magnetized or something (wire, etc.) is interfering with the degauss.

>>11830390
Not a troll. I did it back in the 90s.

>>11827284
The user text is brighter than the response text, am I misremembering or is character (line?) level controllable brightness that kind of an unusual ability for a display from this time?

>>11830428
>you dont give a fuck about ultra high fidelity whatever shit
absolute truth

>>11830389
I’ve heard mixed opinions on using magnets like that. Some say they become ineffective quickly over time or can end up ruining the picture later on. Does it work long term?
>>11830506
It seems more likely to be the shielding or something of that nature. Should I keep chipping away with the degaussing wand daily and hope it eventually releases the field? Or is there a specific technique or method that might help dislodge that kind of internal magnetization?

>>11830428
this basically. i'm not into retro so that i can achieve the highest fidelity of everything. i'm into it because it's fun and comfy. the people who're arguing about how "oudated!!!!!" the format is on the /vr/ board are so weird.

>>11830376
Haven't tried the other option, Retropie is easy if you're used to Retroarch since it's a Retroarch wrapper for the most part. Check
https://www.blakecarpenter.dev/240p-crt-gaming-on-a-raspberry-pi/
and https://www.blakecarpenter.dev/using-a-raspberry-pi-with-a-crt-television/

In Retroarch enable hard GPU sync (improves latency) and disable threaded video (causes stutters). The Genesis shader from the pack in that link doesn't run well on a stock 3b+, switch to a standard tv out shader.

There is also the CRT build of Lakka from earlier in the thread, that just boots straight into Retroarch and has everything set up from the start, except for the settings I mentioned which are also set incorrectly.

>>11830084
Are you sure it's not something in your house causing it? I had a spot like that in a corner that would also reappear, turned out a pot magnet was pointing at the screen from half a meter away form behind the TV.

>>11830643
I don't think it works long term. I had that CRT repaired later on back in the day.

>>11830428
I'm not talking about high fidelity retard. I'm talking about DVD vs VHS. DVDs are dirt cheap too. Cheaper than VHS at this point. The only reason to choose the inferior option is autism

>>11830648
There's a reason you don't see retard using RF anymore. That's the /vr/ equivalent of choosing VHS. It's zoomer retardation. No one that grew up with tapes would go back to them

>>11830992
I did consider that. Maybe it's my aircon. But I also had the TV in a separate room, away from everything, even sitting in the middle of the floor, and it still had the same corner discoloration.

>>11830084
>they always return to the exact same positions after power cycling.
This thread may have the solution

https://old.reddit.com/r/crtgaming/comments/164ipqt/crt_degaussing_coil_causes_decoloration/

>I'll leave this as a note for anyone who comes across this post. I opened up the TV and disconnected the internal Degaussing Coil. The purity issues were gone after degaussing manually (so the faulty thing was the tv's degausser).

Be careful though.

>>11831014
Borderlans dvd wuz still 14 quids last time I see it

>>11831118
That's still cheap as fuck. If you can't afford that just pirate it. There's no need to subject yourself to VHS, little guy. There are better ways.

>>11831113
This all sounds a lot like the issue I’ve been dealing with. Surprised to see someone actually fix purity problems and report back. I might have to give it a shot. Pray for me.

>>11831154
you could also try adjusting the yoke and purity magnets if they exist. you have to do that with a mirror while the thing is on. the service manual would have instructions, but i couldn't find one for that model. it seems to be japanese. no idea what the chassis is either

>>11830987
Thanks, I'll try changing those options, as I'm already noticing some stutter in 3D games. I tested Batocera and it's simple enough, but I'll check out Lakka if 240p ends up not working properly.

>>11831014
your assertation of "inferior" implicitly refers to fidelity

>>11831018
I grew up with them and never stopped using them.

>>11827831
i threw out a lot of my tapes, only ones i kept were anime manga videos alot from late 80's to 90's, 80's tmnt, thundercats, super mario supershow, beavis and butthead, evil dead trilogy, bad taste, braindead, evil ed, jackie chan, bruce lee, laurel and hardy, the young ones, clerks, mallrats.

i threw out all classic 70's-90's horrors which i regert, as well as a bunch of obscure films i wil never find again.

>>11832495
>i threw out all classic 70's-90's horrors which i regert
oof yeah retards pay absurd prices for these online. like its not uncommon for those to go $100+ per tape.

>>11832248
No not just fidelity. Everything about it. VHS is inaccurate. You have a weird fetish for them because zoomer.

>>11828508
ive been downloading a bunch of video cds off archive, which is pretty much vhs quality on cd.

ive also recorded a bunch of manga vhs to dvd with my vhs/dvd combo so i can watch them over with out risk of my vhs fucking the tapes, i really like late 80's early 90's vhs anime on an 80's crt, its incredibly soulful, stuff like wicked city, cyber city oedo 808, akira, odin, genocyber, eva, etc

>>11828526
>CGI suddenly looks bad on DVD is retarded when the movies were made for giant theater screens to begin with
CGI didnt look bad back then, we thought lawnmower man CGI looked good and was the next big thing after the og tron, even the monkeys in jumanji looked real back then, animatronics is still the way to go even modern CGI looks fake and gay

>>11832495
if you remember the name of the movies or the plot you probably would be able to find at least some of them if you do some research and ask around >>>/wsr/ etc.

>>11832582
Jurassic park still holds up really well to this day because a lot of it is animatronics.

>>11831018
its funny you say that because i also play 8 and 16 bit stuff via rf.

>>11831014
lol your inability to see why someone would choose to enjoy something you don't is far more autistic

>>11832539
>because zoomer
I'm 40 years old and I love VHS. Cope harder.

>>>11832670

>>11832683
If your 40 I'm 500 years old. VHS is shit. Imagine watching videos at fucking 240i. 240 interlaced is disgusting and you should be ashamed.

>>11832646
one i was looking for was a cross between blade and the matrix, it had vampires looking like the matrix with black outfits trench coats, think it was dubbed, may have been dutch/south african or some shit, it got released here in the UK on vhs prob from around 2000, i watched it once but dont remember anything else, its was just some shit tier vhs i picked up from my local car boot like 20yrs ago.

>>11832660
thats what i was thinking when i typed it, the later films just cant compare, i sholud have also included makeup as well, the first evil dead will give anyone nightmares.

>>11832672
>Eating shit is stupid
>NOOO you are too autistic to see why eating shit is good!
amazing logic shit eater

>>11832816
Not him, I agree that the picture quality is worse, but a lot of audio mixes for certain films are better on VHS and Laserdisc. A lot of 4:3 Fullscreen movies shot on Super 35 have more picture information than the Widescreen version, and some of those you can't get on DVD. There are reasons to collect VHS, even excluding films you can't get on DVD.

>>11831351
It's very hard to find the service manual, I couldn't locate it either. I only have the normal operation manual, that's it. I might try adjusting the yoke and purity magnets later on once I'm more comfortable with it.

>>11832816
>If your 40 I'm 500 years old
OK, but I'm still 40.
>Imagine watching
I don't need to imagine because I have 100s of tapes and I watch them all the time.
>240i
Now you're really embarrassing yourself.

I'm going to watch this tonight on the combo CRT/VCR I have beside my bed. :0)

>>11832937
Imagine watching movies in 240i. Zoomers are crazy

Ive been playing around with my rpi 4 lately, overclocked cpu and gpu with 1x resolutions for every emulator, i found that heavier dreamcast 3d games (crazy taxi, ikaruga, etc) require vulkan to run full speed, light 3d games (dino crisis, power stone, jet set radio) and all 2d titles run butter smoothly with opengl and a shader to reduce composite signal artifacts. Very happy with the result.

Can someone recommend me a pad for playing 2d fighters, preferably having 2.4ghz receiver, im using the xbox series controller rn.

is a gbs-c with a vga to composite adapter a reasonable solution for downscaling 480i ps3 output to 240p for like psx emu and stuff? or dreamcast vga 480p to 240p?

>>11832816
You're really telling on yourself.

>>11833596
>playing around with my rpi 4 lately
what about atomiswave and can it do Naomi games? if it does dreamcast then im guessing saturn is no problem, but what about sega STV?

also u gotta have a stick for fighters or arcade games in general

>>11832928
make sure to mark them somehow beforehand if you do. no telling what they do.

>>11829130
It seems that you need a good non chink transcoder and your PC to have a Display port plus your TV to receive component, but I doubt you will be able to output 240p

Either CRT computer monitors are in way more demand than I thought or there's some dude in my area obsessively hoarding them.

CRT televisions aren't that hard to get around here but I swear any time a computer monitor gets listed for anything anywhere it gets sold in hours because I can even contact the seller. I'm really tempted to start resorting to ebay or something to get a decent computer monitor.

Found this Videotek RM-8A in a box recently. I know nothing about this brand and cant find much about it online. Thoughts?

>>11834425

try posting a 'wanted' ad, anon. some boomer marketplace cruiser might see it and have one sitting in their basement or something

>>11834721
Can you post a picture of the back label if it has one?

>>11834847
Sure thing

>>11834862
I can't find shit other than a few mentions of hte model on worldradiohistory. All it says is that it was meant to be a portal monitor. Videotek is listed in magazine scans with brands like Sony, JVC, Ikegami, Phillips, etc. It seems like it was a major competitor in the early 80s then just disappeared with near 0 info on them

https://www.worldradiohistory.com/Archive-All-BC-Engineering/BE/80s/BE-1984-04.pdf

>>11834887
Thank you friend. Found more than i did. I would upload more pictures but its got branding on it that might dox me

>>11832892
is a projector a CRT?

>>11834912
Yeah. he posted before that it's a VPH-G70

>>11834924
That his pictures btw. One of the coolest things I've seen posted in these threads.

>>11832539
>inaccurate
yes. it has a lower accuracy of reproduction compared to DVD. that accuracy is called fidelity. you demonstratively misunderstand what you're arguing against

>>11832572
great taste; if I had a vcd module for my saturn I'd use vcd too. i just replace my pinch rollers and clean the guide posts every now and again which works fine for my relatively not humid climate that doesn't turn rubber to glue

>>11834924
>>11834927
holy shit that's nice

>>11834887
I ended up finding more in the box i found it in and had a manual for the Sony KV-8100. It looks identical minus the badge on the front

>>11834924
>>11834912
>>11834940
here she is with the top down

>>11833861
Pi 4 is too weak to run saturn emulators, you will need a pi 5 for that. I used lr-yabause to run doudoku soshite and it has noticeable slowdowns from the title screen to gameplay, i doubt the standalone yaba sanshiro could make much difference, especially for 3d games. Saturn is much harder to emulate than dreamcast after all...

>>11832816
Its fucking retarded to pretend its zoomies that are hard into vhs. Go to any convention or swap meet or flea market, and its all older millenial and gen x fucks that are 90% of the collectors for them. Not enough proof? Go check out the vhs facebook groups, you won't find broccoli hairs.

>>11835001
awooooga, she's beautiful.

>>11835086
let him cope. it's probably one of the only outlets he has for his autistic rage.

>>11834425

They're rarer period, it's not just your area.

Anyone here try one of these chink scalers? Ive been wanting something to downscale 480i to 240p for my wii and 360 but also getting to downscale my pc for retroarch on my crt would be a awesome bonus. Ive seen some pretty conflicting info on them from googling it wonder if anyone can vouch for it. My current chain is most of my systems go into a gscartsw -> retrotink rgb2comp -> gcompsw with some of my later gens systems -> component to bnc -> Sony 14M2U. Is there a better option that doesnt require like 10 different converter cables?

Got a JVC for $150 (gave the guy $170 for driving it a county over) along with the remote and manual. The colors are a bit washed out, but can be fixed and it looks amazing. Nearly was scammed on a Trinitron from an asshole on Facebook Marketplace, and there is practically no non-flatscreens where I live, so this was the best option.
I have it in the corner of my "L" (really an r) shaped desk, I combined the two due to space. I would've put it on the other side but I don't have much room to begin with. I might change it to be to the right of my monitor, but I'm not sure. I can post photos of the whole setup.
Also how the fuck do you take good photos of these things and light it properly? Every photo I take is dark even with the lights on

>>11836635
damn $150?? i know markets change for a year ago this shit was like $20 in my area. i've noticed all the scalpers trying to list CRTs in my area for $100-$300 but i didn't think people would actually pay that. nice set though.

and its almost impossible to get a good photo of a CRT, it's one of those things that has to be experienced in person. a fully dark room will give you the best results however.

>>11836652
I use an iPhone for a camera, so the quality is usually really blurry and has that after-effect thing go on even when I try to disable it.
I live in a very suburban-decayed area so it explains why the prices are so bad.

>>11836635
Price is too high but fuck it, it's the centerpiece of retro gaming. Money well spent if it's in good condition.

>>11836727
I was thinking this too, but if thats what they go for where he lives, chances are it's only going to get worse. PVMs a year ago were like $400 here, and now I only see them for $1k+. It's retarded.

>>11836635
Dunno about good but the best I can manage with my cheap android is by going into advanced camera mode, setting focus to be slightly behind or in front of the screen to avoid moire, shutter speed to 1/60, and then tweaking ISO so the darkest and brightest colors are visible.

>>11836670
don't use the stock camera app, download something where you can control the iso and shit like >>11836747 indicated

>>11836652
>>11836727
>>11836747
How is $150 too much for a CRT? On average, they $200 for a flatscreen with burn in and $1000 for a 14" PVM. This is in a 50 mile radius.

>>11836341
>Chink

You are wasting your time

>>11836798
could you elaborate?

Can someone recommend me an HDMI or display port to VGA converter that they use? I see stuff about a lot them crushing blacks or not accepting higher refreshrates

>>11836635
It's been a while since I messed with it but I remember being able to improve the colors a lot doing something in the service menu. You just turn up the R, G, or B drive options depending on what type of color has weakened

>>11836793
Because you can get them free to $50 if you're patient. For example, this popped up an hour ago.

>>11836341
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4G9aBfL8nFw

>>11836820
Don't buy anything sold by Alibaba/AliExpress or even Amazon because of Chinesium, after the pandemic lots and lots of counterfeit bootleg products got flooded in those places.

The cheaper the worse, but you might buy a expensive one and it might be fucked too.

A lot of listings literally use the samey cague shit quality jpeg images that just BARELY show what the product it's supposed to look like and 9 out of 10, you might be getting a worse product that what you asked for.

>>11837124
I've bought plenty of converters from there and they work just as well as the overpriced ones. Most aliexpress products are the same shit you'd get on amazon but just cheaper.

>>11837156
Extremely European post

>>11837156
please take that off there man, that bothers the shit out of me. even if it's completely stable, it's just wrong. put it on a fucking chair or something if you have to. hell, put it right on the floor as god intended. anything but this, please.

>>11837160
I'm Argentinian so it checks out

>>11837168
I have nowhere else to put it that can support its 40 kg weight and at the same time be high enough I can comfortably watch sitting

>>11837156
this makes me wanna see atlas carrying the weight of a 36" CRT on his shoulders

anybody know of a good auto a/v switcher with more than 4 inputs? philips makes both a component/svideo and composite/svideo autoswitcher with 4 inputs, but i'd like to have around 8 so i can stop worrying about this shit once and for all :)
>>11837156
comfy, what game?

>>11837265
That's Resident Evil 3 on PSone

>>11837176
Can you please go to the hardware store and buy some car jacks and a couple planks of wood to put under that thing

>>11837395
I think the crt is gonna crush the wood. it would also elevate it

>>11837176
>>11837415

Put in the fucking floor you retard you'll break it!

>>11837176
You are trying to do a stunt don't ya? See if I end up breaking a good CRT to piss off chuds!


PUT IT ON THE FUCKING FLOOR!!?

>>11837126
>They totally do 240p

Nigga, unless you show it, we don't have nor we are gonna believe your lying ass.

>>11837415
>I think the crt is gonna crush the wood
I assure you that if you buy some wood of appropriate thickness and girth it will not

>>11837424
Hang on anon we don't even know if it's a good TV since it's widescreen it's probably some 100hz jobby

>>11837429
Who cares? TAKE CARE OF YOUR DAMN STUFF

>>11837424
It's been here since November last year I don't think is gonna break but I'll take it into consideration. Also it doesn't move if that's your concern. You should know that the crystal is where the weight is at.
>>11837429
>we don't even know if it's a good TV since it's widescreen it's probably some 100hz jobby
lol no. this some good 15khz widescreen. 480p not supported. The screen is not even flat.

>>11837447
That's good. I might try to keep an eye out for a widescreen Philips, I recently copped a Philips Dseries, a 25PT something or other, and I rate it highly. Only has composite and S-Video but I don't mind a fuzzier image. The comb filter in it is quite good actually, there's not really much visible dot crawl at 480i at least.

If your TV falls please don't post an image of it.

>>11837126
>Most aliexpress products are the same shit you'd get on amazon but just cheaper.
Often true, and you get somewhat of a benefit in that you KNOW the product is gonna be real cheap quality, but that's less a praise of Temu and AliExpress, and more an indictment at how fabuloisly shit Amazon has become.

>>11837537
Yeah I definitely didn't mean AliExpress is quality. It's just cheap and often works as well as the same crap on amazon
>>11837426
I don't know anything about the quality of the GBS ripoff but the bitfunx RGB to component converter works perfect for 240p and it was like $20 or $30. If you think I'm lying then you can fuck off and not buy it.

>>11837429
It looks like 240p to me in his first pic. Probably SD widescreen

>>11837447
There are some HD CRTs out there that have curved screens. Almost all of them are flat though

No one near fresno has a component crt to sell or trade?

So finally after a few weeks, the svideo connector replacement has arrived, i bought a few different ones, but the others required making a new hole on the chasis and i was trying to find a drop in replacement, which seems to be this one.

Trinitron 29fs310 with broken svideo input bu the way, next step opening the back, desoldering the old broken plug, run wires from the PCB to the new connector and mount it, hopefully it actually fits the hole without any cuts.
Have one question... does Luma and Chroma REQUIRE their own separate grounds? or can i just bridge both grounds and run a single wire to the PCB ?if i run join both Y / C grounds, will i get static or any video noise at all?

the less wires i have to sodler the easiest the job would be, im not taking the PCB put of the chasis i will solder it mounted with the help of a mirror.

>>11837176
lmao this is the best post this thread has seen in months

>>11837726
Sent ;)

>>11837176
what's THAT game?

Are there any reasonable ways to obtain an HD CRT still without vastly overpaying on ebay? I'm not really finding crap in other platforms at all that's local.

>>11838379
That's Gunners Heaven on PSone

Is the beovision avant 32 dvd any good? Got one for sale near me.

>>11838439
I found mine on a street corner.

Saw a cool thing today, I imagine it won't be an easy fix

Is it a meme, or is really impossible to find CRTs out and about for free or for cheap out west in the states and in Europe? This year alone I have picked up close to 20 that were out on front lawns and street corners and junk shops just wanting them gone. Are the people claiming they cant find them just really fucking lazy and not looking or even leave their house?

>>11838634
>This year alone I have picked up close to 20
Where the fuck are you storing all that junk

>>11839107
his basement (or mom's) like all true crt enthusiasts

So I got a Toshiba 24AF44 recently and it has pretty bad horizonal linearity, making the scrolling look really warped especially on sprite-based games. I'm not asking if anyone knows how to fix it, since most sources simply say 'your fucked lol.' I wanna know if other anons have CRTs with a similar issue, and if/how they ever adjusted to it. Its a great TV so I wanna stick with it, but I would be lying if I said that I wasn't at least a little bothered by it.

>>11838634
>meanwhile, in philly
I swear I'm gonna start breaking into the e-waste dump spots here and start taking these soon

>>11839125
Have you used a flat CRT before? Because all of them do that some. Hard to know if yours is normal or fucked up without looking at something like 240p test suite

>>11839163
Based reseller chad. I made a bunch of money doing this years ago.

>>11838541
thanks

>>11838439
hd tvs are less common. ask around and keep the search up. might have to road trip if there's nothing nearby after months of looking. sometimes ebay has local pickup stuff for cheap too.

Figure I'll ask here since you people probably know what you are talking about.
I have a CRT PC monitor in mint condition, far better than any CRT TV I've had in the last 15 years or so. I know it uses 31khz 480p and all my old consoles output 15khz 240p, and I need something to up-scale the video for the monitor to even recognize the signal. I'm looking to get something that can take composite, S-Video, or at the very least component RGB 15khz 240p signal and output 31khz 480p signal on a VGA connector.
Is there something like that out there, or is everything on the market geared for outputting 1080p on HDMI?

I understand people use converters because of 240p and input lag. However, doesn't that mean I could just use a cheap HDMI to AV converter from my PC to a CRT to play PS2/Wii? They'd be 480p, which is pretty good for that generation. The only issue would be the input lag. Am I missing something or this just works?

How are we feeling tonight

>>11839107
>>11839115
Combination of basement, my garage, my parents garage and other various parts of my house. I think the most I have ever actually spent real money on, was a nice shape Trinitron for 25 dollars I found at a antique shop.

>>11839209
Goodwill takes crts in again to sell for scrap or something, so you can find them for """free""" if you go before opening hours when they are dropped off in the back, but no one is working in the dock. I got 3 Trinitrons from the same location on the same day from one.

>>11839343
They're 480i, but they work, yes. They create a 2nd monitor that's always on and you have to drag the emulator window there.

>>11839539
Not in my area (TN). I've started to see a few at other thrift stores but haven't seen one at a Goodwill for at least 5+ years

>>11839343
That should work great for wii especially if you output 480p directly. Input lag from converters has never been bad in my experience so far with several. But PCSX2 has way too much input lag compared to original hardware. And most PS2 games don't support 480p so deinterlacing in PCSX2 will affect the quality.

>>11839539
>Americans have to resort to literal theft to get a CRT
What is the cause of this discrepancy? In most European countries you can get one without any problems for free or like $10 equivalent

>>11839226
I had an older Toshiba but otherwise I played on 14 inch CRT's until now. I've used 240p Test Suite but desu it's so noticeable you don't really need it - anything that scrolls left to right is very distorted. I understand this is typical of most flat screens but wasn't sure if mine was more of a typical issue or I just got really unlucky.

>>11838634
like everything else YMMV. location matters.

>>11840474
Its honorable thievery since the tvs they get are sent to recycling centers.

>>11840852
It does differ from model to model, see towards the end here
https://crtdatabase.com/articles/flat-or-curved-crts-which-is-better

>>11840905
Thanks for sharing the article, that actually puts me at ease, knowing that it's an inherent flaw of the design. Think I'll learn to live with it until I see a curved one for cheap on Marketplace.

>>11836652
>>11836727
Hey, to the Anons in this general.
>type of CRT you own
>professional or consumer grade
>state
>price you bought it for
I'm in the east coast and $150 for a CRT was dirt cheap, a 14" PVM was over $900.

>>11841006
>RCA 20" consumer CRT
>California
>got it for free off the street
>case is a bit cracked but in good shape otherwise
>most facebook marketplace listings go for $100+ for 9"~20" crts, some are less but those ones are usually ultra ancient, not working or tiny portable black and white deals

>>11841006
current color CRTs:
20" TruFlat RCA 20F524T c.2006 w/component (found on sidewalk)
13" Toshiba MDQ42 DVD combo c.2006 (discarded outside thrift store since it wouldn't read DVDs, but otherwise fine)
13" Trinitron KV1370R c.1986 from thrift store for $50
20" Insignia IS-TV040919 c.2006 w/component & s-video from thrift store for $35
6" Audiovox AVT-600 monitor c.1992 from a thrift store for $15
All consumer sets in PA

Also recently came across two solid 27" Panasonics at $25 and $60 and a 27" trinitron for around $40-60 at local thrift but I'm out of room for any larger sets

>>11838546
looks like a pretty sweet tv ngl

>>11841024
>California
ah yes, i've seen enough HGTV to understand that somehow a rundown house from the 60s that housed a meth lab goes for like $600k. these crt prices make sense.

>>11841084
Facebook marketplace or thrift stores for most?

>>11841119
two local thrifts is where i go

>>11841143
Ah, we don't have many here that are good

>>11841006
currently
>20" Zenith Healthview, 2008 ($100)
>27" Sharp, 1996 (Free)
>13" Memorex w/ VCR, 1998 (Free)
>27" Trinitron, 1995 (Free)
>17" eMachines monitor($60, NIB)

i havent ripped into the monitor box yet because i'm just now finishing up the area in my house that I'm setting up my windows 98/xp machine. the box is in good shape though so im not too worried about it, definitely an XP era monitor.

>>11841084
>>11841167
Guess I gotta go to a thrift store then
Also jeez, how come there's no CRT hobby stores?

>>11841235
To add to this, I live in NY and there's practically no thrift stores in my area.

>>11841006
i don't have all the exact stats on hand, but:

14" Toshiba with s-video and component - $15
22" Electrohome with built in vcr and dvd player - $25
2 x 14" GE rf only, real shitty, probably used for security monitors (i use them for either vhs movies or a vhs fireplace tape beside my main RCA tv in my basement when i game) - $20 each
27" RCA - $25
14" White Westinghouse vhs combo unit - $25 from a friend
14" Magnasonic vhs combo, broken (likely capacitor) - $0, childhood tv
6" old 70's b&w RCA tv/radio combo - $50

the Electrohome was the last one i bought like 1.5 years ago

>>11841281
the Toshiba i found at a local christian thrift shop like 5 years ago, everything else was from marketplace within the last 5 years, except the WW unit, which my friend bought from kijiji

if you own more than one you're hoarding. whole retro hobby will be dead within 3 years.

>>11841329
that sounds like a (you) problem

>>11841329
>if you own more than one classic car you're hoarding. whole classic car hobby will be dead within 3 years.
that's what you sound like

>>11841329
Every tv I have that I wouldnt have picked up, would have been destroyed by now from either the weather or scrappers.

>>11841354
crts way more scarce than cars
>>11841371
instead they're stuck in your reddit photo corner rotting away

>>11841114
Careful with that speaker so close to the TV

>>11839301
a retrotink-2x clone from aliexpress and an hdmi to vga dac oughtta do the trick. you might need to put it in DVI mode and you i hope would want smoothing off
https://junkerhq.net/xrgb/index.php?title=RetroTINK-2X

>>11841235
i didnt get any of mine >>11841167 at thrift stores. ive only ever seen a crt at a thrift store once. I'm in downstate IL. All FB marketplace except the 13" I got at a garage sale.

>>11841329
duh, why do you think i'm hoarding them.

>>11820754 (OP)
>Basic mono TV just like what I had in my bedroom growing up
>All consoles connected through RCA into a VCR going to the TV
>Also old model Roku connected with RCA that can actually output and scale 4:3 content correctly
>Download app for Roku called Web Video Caster
>Search "WOC" on archive.org to find old TV broadcasts like what I would have watched back in the day
>Cast to the Roku with the app
>Output image from VCR to the TV with RF for maximum sovl

This shit helps me sleep. Highly recommended for any anons with the means to run a similar setup.

>>11842575
apparently resellers found out about this since the only roku express i can find is nearly $100.

>>11842662
Those fucking cocksuckers. I use a Roku 1 and last I checked those are still cheap but it performs like dogshit and isn't viable for using modern streaming services but still works for casting stuff from a cell phone for what that's worth.

I suppose a PS3 would be worth trying but I don't know how well its browser would work with the Web Video Caster website, if at all.

>>11841006
I own a bunch of them of all kinds that I either got for free or paid very little for, but the ones I use the most are
>32" Wega with component for 480i (around $25)
>27" Wega with no component for 240p (around $15)
>20" Philips composite only (around $2)
Not in the US.

>>11841006
these are the ones i have right now but i might be getting rid of one of the beovisions since two are a bit overkill.

>Beovision 1 (25 inch, 2002)
local pickup with low hours and a really bright and sharp screen, overall really nice. Something strange is going on with the built in sharpening image processing in some scenes, but i can disable that by pulling a cable if id like.
50 bucks

>Beovision AV 9000-Beo4 (28 inch, 1995)
Just picked this up and did a deep clean, some minor issues left to fix and i still need to set it up for inputs
250 bucks

>Jvc D-TV1710CG (17 inch, 2008)
Just wanted to try out a proffesional monitor and this one was a decent price and size compared for what similar sonys go for here. Not blown away by it desu but its a nice set and multi format support is cool, been playing metroid prime remastered on it.
500 bucks

>Sweden

I think PVMs are severely overrated and soulless compared to consumer CRTs.
There, I said it.

>>11839125
My small Toshiba (14AF44) has slight warping coming from the left edge so it's not too noticeable. I used to have a 32 inch flat Sony I got for free where the warping was near the middle. It was much more distracting on top of the larger screen.

>>11842948
Yeah I've heard smaller tubes tend to have better geometry. I have another Toshiba (MD13P1, a curved screen 14 inch with composite only) which has pretty good horizontal linearity. Honestly I might keep an eye out for the one you've got since I like this set on a fundamental level. Or more realistically just learn to live with the fucked up scrolling.

>>11842943
You already posted this 50 times this week. Fuck off

>>11843035
That's my first time posting about PVMs ever.

>>11842575
You aren't even watching it. Who the fuck sleeps with a TV on. Get help zoomie

>>11842575
great setup, anon

>>11842709
ps3 browser is bad but you can stream to it with a media server. plus youtube and netflix, while slow, still work.

>>11842943
i agree and i think that's a common sentiment outside of the I MUST CONSUME class

>>11843219
0/10

>>11843219
>Who the fuck sleeps with a TV on.
Millions of people do.

>>11843219
zooms sleep with a phone and bluetooth earbuds
t. zoom

>>11841787
>way more scarce
they're both mass produced goods and subject to destruction, being thrown away, etc. due to mishandling and can be repaired with tevhnical knowledge and skill. they're quite comparable

>>11843268
Thanks fren.

Yeah PS3 is still good for this sort of thing it's just less convenient.

>>11843343
garage finds are going to become the new barn finds

My TruFlat RCA CRT is making a loud, high pitch sound on certain inputs only, whether there are devices attached and powered on to those inputs or not. It seems to be intermittent rather than chronic. Is my TV on the way out? Is there anything I can do to try to fix it without zapping myself to death?

Holy fuck Fire Emblem 4 is kino

>>11820754 (OP)
Hey guys, are there any lightguns for xbox 360 to use with emulators on a 50/60hz aperture girlle crt tv?
I got a rgh xbox 360 with hacked backwards compatibility which can use 128MB ram of xbox og dev kit fyi

>>11842943
I just don't really see the point personally if you don't like the fuzz. Might as well just emulate if you want perfect image quality.

At the fork turn left a store
but on the right stay free from sight
cause 96 quite bitter beings
like to stack the bodies high

>>11842916
>AV 9000
god dayum that is a sexy ass tube

>>11843343
There are 1000x more cars than TVs and new models still come out. They aren't remotely comparable.

>>11843334
Weird projection. I sleep without any noise making device because I'm not 3 years old. Zoomers are insane.

What is the ideal TVL for retro gayming in your opinion?

>>11844432
I like sharpness so the higher the better. But in real life you take whatever you can get.

>>11844432
Depends on tube size and viewing distance. At 20 inches 600TVL is already a bit too sharp for 480i so probably like 500 would be ideal

>>11843343
at least factories still exist that make car parts.

What is it a sign of when a CRT takes an abnormally long time for the display to turn on? Like minute+ for the screen to reach full brightness.

I just figured out about S video and randomly found a Chinese cable that supports the entire 6th gen at a retro shop. Just quartered the wires on my setup and got a 10 dollar graphics improvement from a technology I only discovered existed the previous night. I got a sudden quality upgrade out of nowhere when I've been hankering for a component CRT for some time, this is awesome....

>>11845116

I think that just means the tube itself has degraded a good deal and has seen a ton of use. Out of the like 10 crts I've used, the only one that did that was a pvm which makes sense since pvms usually have a ton of hours on them from being in constant use in professional settings.

>>11845224
Ah, so not something fixable with repairs then, that's a shame. I supposed it doesn't really mean the CRT is close to dying either if it otherwise works though, doesn't it?

>>11845250

No, unless you replace the tube which most people don't want to mess with including myself. Yeah just keep using it until it dies. If you have a working remote, consider jacking up the contrast and brightness settings. Normally you want to avoid this if possible as it increases the rate of wear on the tube but it's probably necessary for aged tv sets in order to get a pleasing image. You might consider getting a new TV now instead of waiting for that TV to die since CRTs will only get more expensive and harder to get in the near future.

>>11845250
it's not that hard to open the tube and recoat the phosphor. just use some superglue to reseal it and it should be good.

>>11845271
Yeah it's not a CRT I have yet, it's a CRT I was looking at buying that otherwise seemed pretty good. I don't know if it'll be a good idea to buy a CRT that's clearly already on its way out though.

You guys ever hear of the "VGA666"? Well, I bought a SCART666; a custom-made adapter for Raspberry Pi, based on the original VGA version. It even uses the same config. It arrives tomorrow, but promises easy 240p gaming, and all it uses is the GPIO port of the Pi. I'm not european, so I don't actually have a CRT with a SCART port, but I do have a SCART-to-Component adapter I used with CRTEmudriver, so I'll try my luck with that.

>>11820754 (OP)
Got into linux thanks to pewdiepie. Since I'm a massive faggot that can't think for himself, what's the easiest way to get mint to send 480i to a CRT? I want composite out so I can use my trinitron as a second monitor. Do I need a specific, second graphics card?

>>11846585
One of these.

>>11842916
>250 bucks
Was it worth it? How's the picture compared to the Beovision 1?

>>11844432
600 TVL is sharp enough to be detailed and smooth enough to to blend a bit
anything above has beam spot too focused and makes gaps between scanlines too large for 240p

>>11841006
>CRT you own
>PVM-14M4E, $100 + fuckton of caps, trashed cosmetics, pincushions 50/60hz but otherwise works fine, used for betacam
>PVM-14L3, $60 cuz did not turn on (had no h-drive), works fine after replacing voltage regulator for deflection board
>PVM-14L5, traded for 14L4 and BKM-10R, needs a recap
>PVM-9045Q, $50, somewhat dim and old
>PVM-9041Q, $80, epoxy filled bezel crack
>PVM-9040ME, given for free by a fren, i converted the thing to NTSC afterwards
>PVM-6041Q, $90, minor burn in

>snow nigeria

>>11847645
>Oh baby I'm gonna... I'm gonna REEEECAAAAAP

>>11847619
forgor to include visual comparison
>>11847649
nah, don't give a shit as long as geometry is passable
6041 maybe

>>11841006
>big ol' composite Sanyo(?)-10 bux
>lil RF set- 10 bux?
>Sylvania composite - found sitting next to a clothing donation bin(love this lil nig)

>>11841006
>>11847703
>C64 monitor- won for 70 bux at an auction
>Sharp NES tv- 150 bux from my local vidya shop

Is it worth buying a new old stock CRT if you can find one, or is it just as likely/more likely to have issues as a used one?

>>11847714
if you mean on ebay, you just need to be aware of some things. look out for red flags like if it was stored in a garage. and in some cases no one will tell you that so really you wont know until you open it up and take off the back to check for major problems that are obvious e.g. corroded capacitors or something. those extreme environments can damage something like a tv. there is also a company that makes "new" crts with old parts for like 2k a pop last i checked: dotronix.

>>11830084
Update for anyone curious:
I unplugged the internal degauss coil, and that stopped the color blotches from resetting every time I powered on. Unfortunately, I could only clear one side at a time. If I degaussed one side, the blotches would shift to the other, and the problem just kept moving around instead of going away.

I tried adjusting the yoke as well, but it was firmly glued in place, likely from the epoxy on the rubber stoppers. I was able to move it slightly, but it made no difference on the screen.

At this point, I suspect the shadow mask or aperture grille may be damaged, possibly from a drop or heat stress. The set is in great cosmetic condition and the image beneath the impurity looks good, but nothing I tried worked. It’s a frustrating situation.

>>11845597
Tried it today, not getting any image. Maybe my plan of using the converter didn't work, or maybe I'm not using configuring the .txt file correctly.

>>11847862
Did you try adding or moving the existing disc magnets on the back of the tube (the little round discs in your picture)? You can buy packs of those things at hardware stores.

>>11847925
I just tried messing with it again. I was able to clear some of the color on the outskirts of the blotches, but once the magnet gets closer to the center or near the corners, it either has no effect or makes the discoloration worse. I also noticed a slight sag or distortion in the geometry along the left and right sides. It extends beyond the discolored area, which makes me think something might be warped or possibly related to the yoke alignment.

>>11847714
>Is it worth buying a new old stock CRT if you can find one, or is it just as likely/more likely to have issues as a used one?
Yes and maybe?

If it's new old that means that it guns haven't been flogged, but the capacitors won't necessarily be within spec and even if it was purchased and placed in a dry, safe place for 20something years and forgotten it's still had gravity and time acting on it like every other set out there.

>>11848041
You could have a try at pushing the yoke into the tube a bit to see if that does anything. It could be sagging ever so slightly which is causing the beams to misconverge and cause that colour distortion.

>>11844059
it is isnt it

>>11847570
Its a bit hard to compare desu but id say while its a bit softer, but still looks really nice imo. its also a larger and older tube so i didnt expect it to be quite as sharp. Its still pretty bright (usable even in a bright room) and colors look good. Overall id say its 10-15% worse than the beovision 1 in general, which is something i can live with given the design and the larger tube.

The major drawback is however the older software, which means getting into the service menu isnt as easy

>>11847714
It is never worth buying a CRT.
There isa reason they stopped being made. Inferior.

>>11847352
Those look like shit. Stop posting this retard

>>11848328
It does exactly what anon asked for.

>>11848041
Maybe try stronger magnets. When I was working on the spot from the pot magnet i mentioned, I had to massage it for a minute or so with the same magnet. It's a neodymium magnet rated at around 10 kg I think.

FUCK YEAHHH BITCHHHH.

i just replaced my broken Svideo input, SONY Trinitron 31fs210. Take that you fucking bitch that told me i couldnt do it a few weeks ago.
Replacement plug was a perfect fit, no need to cut the chasis, i used clean resin on the inside, and super glue on the outside, to prevent this from happening again, i also got a Svideo and rca audio extensions, they will remain plugged in forever so i dont damage the input again by plug / replug.

Working perfectly, now before i move my TV to its original place i want to clean the RCA inputs, they are so nasty, what should i use to clean them? obviously not sandpaper.

>>11849221
fine steel wool should do the trick

>>11828508
rewatching after seeing years

>>11849221
based, happy for you, anon

are there switches for s video out there? I'm having a hard time finding something like this w/ svideo on it. My 95 trinitron has 1 s video input on the back but i hate moving it because the case is extremely brittle so it would be nice to not have to plug and unplug for that.

>>11849264
iirc the scalable video switch can handle S-video but its kinda expensive

>>11849264
there's a 4-port one on amazon.com

>>11841006
>21'' Thomson 21DM182 bought for 40pln in 2015
>17'' CTX Futura VGA monitor (Trinitron FD) picked up for free
>14" Grundig mono bought for 30pln in 2022
>Polan

>>11849252
awesome, wish i could find a torrent for the open matte / fullscreen version

>>11837176
hahaha what the hell

>>11844383
>>11844523
and yet machine shops exist

>>11847714
Here in Australia you could still buy new old stock CRTs in 2012 for only $10 AUD. I regret not getting one and just keeping it boxed, in storage.

>>11844385
ironic for someone pretending to listen

>>11849383
Watching Rocky now

>>11849383
There's a 4:3 fullscreen DVD that has the alternate endings and deleted scenes.

>>11849523
i still haven't popped in my rocky tapes
>>11849559
i know but i'm trying to avoid spending too much money on physical media this year

>>11849221
Lookin' good. Steel wool or a small wire brush. Maybe Brasso. You could also get a take out the screws and put them in a vice, and get a wire wheel brush to clean them up. I do that all the time with rusty bolts.

>>11849570
Yeah it'd be best to let the hype from the new movie die down.

>>11849221
isopropyl alchohol, and if that doesn't do it, deoxit

>>11849221
I'm proud of you anon

>>11821087
It's the devil don't do that to yourself
----

Oh fucking boy the state of the CRT market in Australia.

Big find for some South Australian aussie that wants to haggle this shit down to the $500 it's worth.

>>11849264
I got a used GameStop/pelican switcher model bb-016 for $15. Way better than the chunky crap on Amazon.

>>11850318
Chink crap*

>>11849264
There's a Philips auto switcher with 4 inputs, 1 output. Needs a power supply brick attached but it's pretty great. Comes in either component or composite flavors, but both have s-video ports as well for each input and the output.

>>11849264
>>11850318
found one on offer up
https://offerup.com/item/detail/f9fc7ba8-b046-313c-bc0c-8915b7ea5d6a

>>11850318
>>11850321
That's made in China too retard. And so is the majority of anything. Funny how racist toward chinese people on this board can be while enjoying 99% chinese made products.

>>11850470
Looks good but my main issue with shaders is the loss of brightness and color. A good CRT looks like that but with the vibrancy of the second pic.

What are some of the best non-Trinitron TV models available in Europe? I'm looking for

>A curved set, so probably 90s or early 00s
>21 inch only
>Composite, s video and RGB inputs

I have a couple Sonys already and they're great, but I want to have a nice slot mask too. I have a Philips, but it has a somewhat defective flyback, the picture blooms like crazy. I can look around for a while, I'm not in a rush, just want to know what to look out for in particular

>>11850705
>points out the extremely obvious but calls me a retard kek
there's obviously varying quality levels of chink crap, chink boy. Useless comment.

>>11849252
I'll never understand people complaining about the crappy early digital video quality of (most of) this film, since I absolutely feel that it adds a lot to the atmosphere.

>>11850884
It's just NPCs and zoomers who complain, and they were born without souls so they lack the capacity to appreciate beauty. No big surprise there.

>>11850826
the bang & olufsen sets are nice especially when it comes to sound. The Beovision mx 4000 and mx 4200 would fit your criteria but they might be hard to get your hands on.

>>11850890
>>11850884
Only zoomers still watch VHS when DVD exists. There's no reason to watch an inferior version on CRT just because you grew up watching stranger things and think it's retro and cool. It's autism and masochism. DVDs are the perfect master for CRT. The only reason to use inferior VHS is hipster autism and zoomer retardation

>>11850995
I grew up with vhs and i still use them because they are cheap, plentiful and unless the tape is really old or really fucked up, offers perfectly watchable quality. Also, due to the era they came out, you seem to be much more likely to find specific films of the 80s and 90s much more easily while digging through a box of vhs tapes, as opposed to dvds. I ultimately use both, but i find far more interesting things to watch on vhs when im media hunting.

>>11850995
I never said anything about VHS, just that low quality film =/= bad quality. I agree with you on DVDs.

>>11850970
Thanks for the suggestion anon, I didn't know they made this TVs in smaller sizes. Not a fan of the plexi/glass screen in the front of the tube, but that's probably detachable somehow

I bought a set of Sony speakers just like these and im looking for suggestions on what used receivers to use with them.

>>11851089
I should add they're gonna be used with my Panasonic crt and with my PS2, Wii and SNES.

I've got a question about video capture; I want to record from my CRT but it only has video inputs (SCART), no outputs. Would I have to buy a SCART-to-HDMI upscaler? I have a computer monitor with HDMI inputs and I think it's going to be a lot easier to just do it through that.

>>11850995
What you're saying has nothing to do with what I was talking about. The majority of 28 Days Later was filmed using a Canon XL1 digital camcorder, which gives it a markedly grainy, lower resolution look, regardless of the playback format. As for what you said, I don't entirely disagree, as I think the last time I actually watched any of my old VHS tapes was when I rewatched the original Star Wars trilogy ten years ago.

Thoughts on RCA Trueflat?

>People keep saying any game looks beautiful on a CRT
>Try Resident Evil 4 Wii on a CRT
>Extremely blurry textures and character models are super jagged
Is this just zoomer nostalgia or am I doing something wrong? I'm even using component cables.

>>11851631
It's not going to upscale textures or smooth models. Maybe older games just aren't for you

>>11851646
>Maybe older games just aren't for you
I've been playing RE4 since it came out tho. All I'm saying is, a CRT won't just magically make everything look amazing, but people keep pretending it will.

>>11850784
that is a real crt. you can see a little smudge on the screen to the left of the phone. it doesn't show up in the picture but in real life it's just as bright.

>>11850995
stop replying to this retard, he's either baiting or genuinely mentally ill

>>11851631
the gamecube and wii don't really have antialiasing on models, so that's kind of just how the games look. there's deflicker, but as far as i know that isn't disabled by default on RE4. you could try composite.

>>11851123
28 days later looks way better on DVD

Just bought an VGA monitor, what's the best method of hooking it up to a modern video card? Don't you use like some display port to VGA adapter or something?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bApd0QFsErU

>>11851760
that's what makes it worse

>>11851981
What's that!?

>>11851981
That's one of those car TVs they'd stick in cars in like the 90s and shit. Judging by the design it probably went between the driver and passenger seats for the kids in the back seat to watch.

My family actually had a minivan with something similar when I was growing up. It's a cool novelty but the VHS mechanism never survived long on the road, shit would break down constantly and if it didn't have an AV in to use instead then the whole thing became useless. I remember after the VHS player in our minivan died I just used it to play PS1 on camping trips.

>>11849570
I'll watch them for ya. Here's Rocky II

>tfw have a 20in crt but no real desire to play on it anymore
I got it free too, it was at this one rental house my work owns, I stayed there for like a weekend at that city and saw the thing in the house and literally just loaded it up in my car at the end of the stay and took it home.
I'm pretty sure they were still using it so they bought a new lcd TV lol.

Should I hook it up to my am2 pc and play gzdoom on it?

>>11852554
theft

>>11850884
It works very well for that specific movie but I don't think it's something any and every film could get away with back then.

>>11853348
Blair witch did it first, there was also cloverfield which came after. Honestly anything low budget looks good on a low resolution display.

>>11848093
I tried pushing the yoke forward. It’s glued into place with thick globs of epoxy in some areas, so I could only move it a tiny bit. Didn’t change anything with the purity or geometry. It probably still needs adjustment, but it’s risky to force it without removing all the glue. Tried to wiggle it free, but it would not loosen.
>>11848403
Tried stronger magnets. They can clear some of the color, but they also push the discoloration to other areas or just warp the existing color. Once again, it works best only on one side.
Thanks for trying to help guys. I really appreciate it. Damn thing is stubborn. Will probably end up getting another set.