Starting Dragon Quest IV, anything i should know beforehand?

Not really

>>11822284 (OP)
if you're not playing the DS version with the party chat hack or at least the mobile version then do it
if you insist on playing inferior shitty version then go fuck yourself

Wait until someone sells you a Sword of Malice before leaving. Don't let anyone buy it.

>>11822326
I'm going to play the PSX version to practice Japanese language, i think it's the same as the DS version.

>>11822326
>I need useless commentary on everything
Stick to modern games.

>>11822326
NES is the best version for not being dumbed down. I dont give a damn about party chat.

>>11822284 (OP)
>ps1 translation never ever ever

feels bad man. I dont want to play on a fucking dual screen setup (looks like shit when emulating) nor do I want janky famicom graphics and AI controlled party members.

>>11822326
goes on a retro board tell people to play non retro games and tells people to fuck themselves and this poster will not get banned. Its absurd.

>>11822412
It pretty much is. It's got a different setup for the pioneer town, that's about it. Probably some different balancing, too.

>>11822284 (OP)
Pick the male MC

>>11822284 (OP)
Pick the female MC

>>11823101
This. Sofia is hot.

>>11822326
>party chat
i'm here to game, not to make friends

>>11822326
Party Chat in remakes mostly only exists to remind you of your next objective. You don't need it.

>>11822684
>NES is the best version
spbp

>>11823254
If you were talking about 8 and 11, you'd be right, but party chat in 4-7 is much more expansive than that. The party has comments about damn near everything any NPC can say, and more often than not it's not at all related to the next objective, and instead helps characterize the party members.

>>11823265
They don't need characterization. That's what imagination is for.

>>11822284 (OP)
Just remember that Cristo after level 18 and Brey after level 30 are fully useless in boss battles since they will do nothing but casting instant-kill/confusion spells that don't work on bosses.

>>11823368
you don't need video games that's what imagination is for

>>11823391
Supposedly they will learn after X amount of turns not to do that. Same applies for random battles, they will eventually "learn" what doesn't work if you fight enough of that enemy.

>>11822287
You play the same game 5 times

>>11823445
And you'd think one of those at least would be good, but no.

>>11823443
Cristo/Kiryl's AI continues to prioritize using instant-kill spells in remakes because Japan loves the meme of his futile persistence too much to change it.

>>11823565
Thankfully no one in this thread is dumb enough to play the shitty remakes.

I don't think I can rival with the FF6 autism guy, but a couple of interesting things I noticed about DQ4:

Scenario 1 is mostly about a single character like DQ1. You do get a helper but he's technically optional, and having a single character + helper(s) had in fact become a standard for DQ1 clones

In Scenario 2 you get a physical hitter, a spell caster, and a middle ground character that can do a bit of both but excels at nothing; just like in DQ2.

It's also interesting that in the first few chapters the only dungeons are caves and towers, just like in DQ1 and 2, before Chapter 5 throws in new dungeon themes of all kinds like the giant tree (a common trope since then but novel at the time). DQ4 makes you want to relive the gold old days before going further what has been done before.

>>11823265
You clearly don't actually like video games. Go read a book

>>11822284 (OP)
Go for a full girls party. The chat function is a riot.

>>11824091
>using the features that the game provides means you don't like games
Ironically not reading books is what gives you this braindead mindset.

>>11822326
Zoomer opinion.

>>11823265
Less is more.

>>11822412
There are a surprising number of story differences between PSX and DS, but it's highly arguable which version is superior so I think PSX is a fine choice.

>>11823254
A lot of the party chat is DQ4 is small scenes from the various manga and novel adaptations it had that the people who were making the remakes really liked and wanted to add into the game proper.
It compromises about two-thirds of the game's script and massively fleshes out the game's story and characters.
It's completely 100% optional (if you never hit the party chat button you will never see it) so even if you deeply, profoundly despise story in RPGs to the bottom of the black pit of your soul there's no reason not to have it.

>>11825661
>massively fleshes out the game's story and characters
a 5th party remake company adopting lore from books written by some guy and comics written by some other guy isnt relevant. Are they going to ask for lore I made up next? Why the fuck would I want that?

>>11824634
We're not talking about Ico or Yume Nikki.
This isn't a minimalist game, it's Dragon Quest.
You walk around and talk to people and fight monsters and open treasure chests. Occasionally you shop. That's the gameplay. That's the game.
Removing optional dialogue doesn't make the game better, it just makes it emptier.

>>11825683
>a 5th party remake company
The DQ4 remake was made by Heartbeat, the makers of DQ6 and DQ7. They're a central pillar of the Dragon Quest series.
>lore from books written by some guy and comics written by some other guy isnt relevant
They weren't written by Horii Yuuji, but neither was Torneko's Mystery Dungeon, and neither was a large chunk of DQ4 itself. DQ4 has five assistant writers in the credits. If you want to play studio RPGs you have to accept that they are group efforts, and the people Enix hired to make the numerous DQ4 adaptations are also a part of that group effort.
Horii Yuuji specifically said that some of the scenes that were added to the remake were stuff he wanted to put into the original game but was told he had to cut because there wasn't enough space on the cart.
Absolutely everyone who likes or cares about Dragon Quest IV should have some degree of interest in at least some of these scenes. They're a beloved part of the game's history that was very difficult to access because they'd never been translated and are all wildly out of print. Then they're translated for you and made as easy to see as possible, and kept completely optional, and your response is to complain? Can you even call yourself a fan of the game at that point?

>>11822284 (OP)
its kind of a disservice to how impressive this game is to play it on anything but original hardware

>>11822284 (OP)
Torneko is da boss

>>11823247
If you want a gameplay-condensed DQ, try one of the tendie RPGs that rip it off.
>Pokemon (preferably Gen 2/3)
>Mother (preferably Earthbound, rolling HP rocks)
>Glory of Heracules (don't play 1 or the shitboot, SNES games are great)
>Golden Sun (start anywhere but jump to 2 with a Gold Medal code, the multiplayer mode is pretty fun)

>>11828070
Suggesting someone should play Pokemon over Dragon Quest should be a bannable offense.

>>11822284 (OP)
Before you finish the merchant chapter, buy and store as many steel swords you have the patience for, then sell them as needed later in the game.

>>11822284 (OP)
Use a Game Genie code in the last chapter to control your dudes

>>11828186
If you play the real version of the game, you can only store 8.

>>11828093
It is the better option if you have friends to trade with.

>>11822326
Based!!!

>>11824091
It's an RPG you dribbling retard. Talking to other characters is half the game.

>>11825661
>There are a surprising number of story differences between PSX and DS
What are the story differences between PSX and DS?

>A lot of the party chat is DQ4 is small scenes from the various manga and novel adaptations
Could you give examples of some of these mangas?

>>11829608
>What are the story differences between PSX and DS?
None, really. The DS version is more or less a straight port of PSX, right down to the shoehorned Chapter 6 that retcons Psaro to just be a chump who got manipulated by his own servant the whole time.

just started this. i really like the look of the environments. kind of odd that it asked my name and gender only to make me a man named ragnar.

>>11829749
It'll make sense much later on.

also love the enemies art so far. demon stump has a cool retro rpg flavor.

fuck this game. the encounter rate is too high and the backtracking is tedious.

Was trying to find apks of 3 and 4 either not chock full of spyware or compatible with newer Androids, and shit's impossible. Fuck paying like 12 bux a game, Squenix STILL charge as much as 30 for some older shit, too. Thankfully I did 3 before on SNES.

Did however easily find V, liking playing it again with the added stuff anyway. I know, ACCENTS but the renames surprisingly impact very little from the SNES version. Playing in portrait is comfy and you don't have to onscreen dpad, just swipe holds. I thought it'd suck for diagonal movement (which it has) but nah.

>>11825834
>Horii Yuuji specifically said that some of the scenes that were added to the remake were stuff he wanted to put into the original game but was told he had to cut because there wasn't enough space on the cart.

I feel like every developer says this about every remake of one of their games. They obviously want the remake to do well, so they're not gonna represent it as an inauthentic version. Lorne Lanning said Soulstorm was the version of Abe's Exoddus he wanted to make originally, as if he totally wanted to shoehorn looting and crafting mechanics into a PS1 platformer back in 1998. I don't believe any of that stuff.

>>11829265
The most boring half

>>11830308
This. I wanted to say this and I thought I did but turns out I never made the post.

>>11829756
Toriyama's art translates really well to 8-bit. I also think that at least a good half of the animations added in the PSX/DS version look very silly.

>>11825689
I was buttfucking this game before you were born. You don't tell me shit about it, hot shot.