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>>11823349 (OP)
dude fuck off back to /vg/
this board is already suffering from the doom generals infested by the same 5 boomers, no one needs another general slop

Emulating Dreamcast is comfy
>>11823421
shut up nerd

Anything missing?

https://github.com/unofficial-issue-tracker/duckstation/issues?q=is%3Aopen+is%3Aissue+sort%3Aupdated-desc

>>11823421
womp womp
>>11823349 (OP)
good addition to the sticky

>>11823472
What am I looking at here? Is this some kind of built in bbs chat system that SA2 had on DC? And it's supported by emulation? I was an SA2B cube baby so this is new to me.

>>11823548
>What am I looking at here?
SEGA sovl, tendie.
>Is this some kind of built in bbs chat system that SA2 had on DC?
It is built-in web browser on SA2
>And it's supported by emulation?
Yes
>I was an SA2B cube baby so this is new to me.
Is never too late to try the best and OG version, tendie boy.

>>11823576
Neat. I had a DC with SA1, Rayman 2, JGR and Code Monica but I never played SA2 on there. SA1 on DC is absolutely superior to DX though, framerate be damned.

Sonic Adventure is trash
emugen is good, thougever
but not to talk about Sonic Shitventure

>>11823921
is this some sort of poem why did you arrange the words like that

>>11823967
It's a haiku poem. In my free time, I make poems about how shit Sonic Adventure is. One more!

A blurry mess,
Bad controls, glitches abound,
A blue stain on games.

Sonic is a joke
Yuji Naka is in jail
Where he should remain

>Just discovered that a PS3 with CFW & two programs will play PS1/PS2/PS3/PSP now, as well as older consoles via RetroArch.

I think I'm going to do that this weekend.

>>11823975
There were to many syllables in that last line.

>>11824478
>to many
I see there is much to learn from you're mastery of the English language

>>11824485
You have much to learn when it comes to counting as well.

Fuckin' awful game,
Broken shit, a buggy mess,
Pure Sonic disgrace.

Is there any system that has literally perfect software emulation?
Not practically perfect
I'm talking literally 100% perfect emulation

>>11824932
metalnes goes as far as emulating transistors on the board
that's as perfect as it gets for now

>>11824485
But haiku is Japanese

Just modded the snes classic. Wow that was insanely easy. It just works.

Why? The emulation (canoe) is silky smooth and locked to 60fps. Modern displays love this. The controllers it comes are also great.

>>11823989
Cobra isn't perfect for all games, but it's good enough that I use a PS3 for my PS3/PS2 gaming.
If you're on a modern tv, the PS3 with retroarch is a pretty good option for all the old stuff, but you're not getting 240p out of that thing to a CRT.

>>11823601
>JGR
It's JSR now

>>11826540
Yeah. I’ve moved a ton of stuff over, played a few things, and I’m truthfully pretty happy. 1TB just isn’t enough though. I have a ps2, so may mod it just for ps2 and use the ps3 for 3/1 games.

>>11827947
It wasn't when I played the game, zoomlish

>>11827989
What does Professor K call the station in the very game?

>>11827971
I cannot imagine needing more than 500GB on a modded PS3 let alone 1TB.

>>11827995
I don't really care because my big dick American copy said Jet Grind Radio on the cover and not Faggot Set Ham Radio, regardless of what Doctor Nog says.

>>11828000
it genuinely is a worse name that rolls off the tongue worse and doesn't even make as much sense as just having "jet set" which is a real phrase.

>>11828003
You glazed over the best part: I just don't care.

>>11823576
You're doing a fantastic job convincing people that your preferred version/console is better and worth playing. Definitely not being an insufferable autist

>>11828010
Can't keep up with the sovl?

>>11824965
>doesn't emulate electrons moving from one energy levels to another
literal trash

>>11823472
>that image
YWNBAW

>>11827997
If you've got PS1/PS2/PS3/PSP, yeah, I can see 1TB being filled pretty quick desu.

I've yet to see evidence that DuckStation isn't the perfect emulator

>>11828283
https://github.com/unofficial-issue-tracker/duckstation/issues

>>11827971
At some point I fucked up my cobra somehow on one of my drives and I only have one PS3, so what I did was just get really good at swapping the drives quickly, it's just 1 screw on the slim.
I keep all my PS3 games on the SSD that I was going to use originally, and just put all the PS2 stuff on the original drive the console shipped with.
Oh yeah, speaking of which, if your cobra ever stops working and none of the fixes out there work for it, reformatting the whole drive usually works.

>>11828269
1TB is barely enough for Saturn fullset, I'm pretty sure PS1 fullset alone is over 1tb, and forget putting the PS2/PS3 fullset on 1 drive, you need a NAS.

>>11828423
Not trying to full set it, but more a mix of stuff I like to play often and some new things. And yeah, I could totally use a NAS; for a lot of things. I get why people still go the physical route despite the cost.

>>11828423
>>11828269
>fullset
Why on Earth would I download every PS1/PS2/PS3/PSP game in existence? I will NEVER play an untranslated eroge visual novel.

>>11828534
43 years from now when Private Idol Disc Tokubetsuhen: Can Gal '97 gets translated to Portuguese, you will be ready.

steam group chat for netplay when

>>11828534
It's truthfully not about having a fullset. There is plenty of shovelware I'd never touch or genres where I'm not that heavily interested. It's just that to have PS1/PS2/PSP, 1TB is more than enough. But with PS3(I know, not retro), some of my faves sit at 30GBs per game.

>>11828283
>I've yet to see evidence that DuckStation isn't the perfect emulator
A perfect emulator plays every single game for the platform it's emulating perfectly
Duckstation can't play Power Rangers Pinball
Beetle PSX and SwanStation can

>>11830563
No emulator is perfect.

>>11831195
NES emulation is pretty close. I don't think there's any commercial title Mesen can't run

>>11824965
>Languages: JavaScript 80.4%

>>11831612
NES has had all of it's commercial releases basically perfectly emulated for 15+ years. In all this time its really been the weird pirate/bootleg carts that have been the final frontier for the NES.

>>11823349 (OP)
I'm still on KEGA Fusion, it's never been surpassed.

>230GB of 1TB remaining.
Wow. Okay. So I'm an idiot.

>>11832630
Genesis Plus GX is way better with extremely accurate audio

>>11833213
>Genesis Plus GX
>requires front end support
>no standalone shaders or filters
>no built in networking
>no clock scaling or cheat code injection
>high cpu and memory usage
No thanks, I'll also be sticking with the GOAT.

>>11833467
enjoy your completely broken audio, whatever

>>11833473
Audio works fine though. You should try KEGA.

>enable Perfect Sound in Fusion’s options
>everything just works

>>11833480
No, it doesn't. load up Lion King or Fantasia in Fusion and then look it up on youtube (how it's supposed to sound on real hardware) and listen to how broken the audio is.
Not to mention basic soulful side effects of the sound chip such as the ladder effect, are completely unemulated and missing. You're not going to convince anyone that this broken piece of trash is "superior" to Genesis Plus GX, brother.

I would like a new standalone megadrive emu, please and thank you.

>>11831824

Disgusting

>>11833535
AFAIK the only completely standalone option that's still maintained is BlastEm Nightly:
https://www.retrodev.com/blastem/nightlies/

If you just hate RA because of the UI and don't mind multi-system emulators if they have a more traditional UI, there's also Ares and BizHawk

since reddit and other forums insist in being unhelpful faggots (as per usual).
could some kind anon tell me what romset to use for the current FBneo core on retroarch ?
I'm presented with a 1.0.0.2 or 1.0.0.3 ROMset but have been told it needs to be the specific romset for whatever core version is currently being used.
please and thank you.

>>11828283
resident evil 2 crashed a hour from the ending when i played it a few weeks ago and i've never had that happen even when i was playing it on some decade old version of ePSXe

>>11834447
>have been told it needs to be the specific romset for whatever core version is
The FBNeo core on RA is updated several times a day (you can verify this by updating it in RA, loading the core, and confirming that the version at the bottom is the same code as the latest commit on github here:
https://github.com/libretro/FBNeo

So no it doesn't need a new romset at every single update
I use these roms and they work perfectly:
https://archive.org/details/2020_01_06_fbn

>>11834517
okay thankz anon

>>11833213
>extremely accurate audio
Only 1 emulator has extremely accurate MD audio and that's ClownMDEmu
https://clownacy.wordpress.com/2022/05/25/clownmdemu-fm-audio-emulation/

>>11834531
Genesis plus gx uses Nukey OPN2. Which funnily enough is directly referenced in that link:

"You see, Nuked OPN2 isn’t just a cycle-accurate emulator: it’s a cycle-accurate emulator that’s based directly on a die-shot of a de-capped YM3438. Essentially, Nuked OPN2 is a conversion of the YM3438’s circuitry to C. With this, there are no mysteries about how the YM3438 works: everything is documented in such a way that you can verify it just by running it."

So no, clowmdemu doesn't have the most accurate audio. Genesis plus gx and the MiSTer FPGA core do, Blast em
is likely better too.
"You see, Nuked OPN2 isn’t just a cycle-accurate emulator: it’s a cycle-accurate emulator that’s based directly on a die-shot of a de-capped YM3438. Essentially, Nuked OPN2 is a conversion of the YM3438’s circuitry to C. With this, there are no mysteries about how the YM3438 works: everything is documented in such a way that you can verify it just by running it."

>>11834447
I usually use the nightly roms which can be found on myrient

>>11834447
>1.0.0.3
This one. This is the retroarch core. It supports way more games. 1.0.0.2 is for the standalone fbneo emulator.

Welcome to the party, pal.

>>11823472
How do I emulate the web browser?

>>11833467
Nigga, GenPlusGX runs smooth on the Wii and even the fucking GameCube, and those are underpowered pieces of shit!

Maybe your PC just sucks

>>11837131
Compared to Fusion, GPGX more cpu and memory.

But it does help that KEGA works on everything even more so than TroonPlusGX.

>>11831824
sounds unbelievably stupid

>>11832630
Based

What are my options for emulating various light gun games on an Android?

I am not sure if it is me becoming a boomer or if it is because of the emulation but I can barely follow the rhythm in patapon 3

and iirc patapon 3 was very relaxed compared to others

>>11838404
Are you recalling playing on real hardware?

>>11838450
Yeah, I had a psp and was able to play fine back then 10. Now I am emulating it on switch and can barely hit notes

PCSX2 is fucking over.

>>11839132
Huh

>>11838404
>>11838518
>Patapon 3 (パタポン 3) is a 2011 rhythm video game developed by Pyramid and Japan Studio and published by Sony Computer Entertainment for the PlayStation Portable.
retard

Is it worth buying one of those hard drives full of emulators and roms with everything just ready to go?

>>11839370
Refraction is retiring.

>>11839695
No

>>11839695
>buying things you can easily get for free

>>11837089
yep, i messed about with it in the end and built up a nice little ROMset.
thanks for responding anyway anon.

>>11839826
it already works for 99% of games anyway tho

I have been playing Gex - enter the gecko (Ps1) on my steam deck. I can't seem to figure out how to force 60fps, is this possible?

>>11839695
>buy 10tb hard drive for $100
>download everything for free
Idk man. You tell me?

>>11839695
If you're stupid enough to consider it then yes because you're probably too stupid to get the roms yourself.

>>11831824
>javascript is le bad! why? because it is!!

>>11840726
Its more like the people that use it are bad.

>>11831824
It's the fucking nesticle author who coded it

>>11840409
No. PS1 is shit and you will eat shit.

>>11840726
Found the jeet "coder".

Is Ymir the promised Saturn emulator?

>>11840409
There is no patch for it so most likely the game would break if it run at 60 fps.
Boomers back then were often coding game engine stuff to be dependent on the framerate.

>>11841998
Fair enough, I figured it would be something like that. Maybe with the roms that were ripped from the recent collection?

>>11842125
>Maybe with the roms that were ripped from the recent collection?
Why would it matter? They're the same games...

>>11842215
Because they run at 60fps in the collection (apparently)

>>11842232
They're confirmed roms running in an emulator.
If they do run at 60, then the originals can too.

stablefags just got a new PCSX2 update https://pcsx2.net/blog/2025/pcsx2-2.4_2.2/

>>11841990
Are Indians the new successful minority that Chuds are latching onto lately? Did Jews become overplayed or something?

>>11844493
>pls not to disrespecting me saar!
Quiet.

>>11823576
why does your screenshot look like shit? its all dark with dots all over the screen. I sure hope you don't play this way instead of a real dreamcast

>>11844508
>instead of a real dreamcast
Why open the thread?

>>11844497
I accept your concession.

>>11844902
Concession to what?

>>11844907
ligma

>>11844493
youd think theyd turn on asians

>>11839964
>>11840652
>>11840672
Yeah obviously I can download them for free but I don't want to go through the arseache of making them all run properly. My question is basically do those hard drives just work or would I have to fuck around with extra stuff?

>>11845868
>I don't want to go through the arseache of making them all run properly.
You just put the ROMs in the emulator and play them. It doesn't require some kind of techno-wizardry.

>>11845871
Ideally yes, but you know full well this doesn't always happen and then you have to spend ages fixing some weird shit.

Anons, do you ever stop and think about how amazing it is to be able to play any game you grew up with, plus the other 99% of games that existed then, with just a handful of keystrokes or button presses?

>>11845878
honestly not really I just got used to it. The year I finally tried it in like 2022 I was very excited and now I have more measured expectations about whether or not I will actually play a game vs theorycrafting about it. I have discovered great games I would not have otherwise though

>>11845878
I sometimes think about how I have access to the entire libraries of many different systems and yet I don't feel like playing anything.

>>11845874
Not really no. Some emulators require a bios or keys but thats usually it.

>>11845874
...So you are retarded

>>11832630
Me too. My only issue with it is that fast forward can't be capped so it goes at like 5000% which makes it unuseable, but at least it teaches me to be patient again

>>11845878
I thought it was amazing. In 1998.

From times to times though I do and stop and think of how much different emulation would have been had Bleem lost their trial against Sony and light a candle in their memory.

>>11845878
Sometimes. But then I tweak some settings and lose interest.

>>11841997
Seems so.
It now has the option to get rid of hardware dithering even on native resolution.

>>11847097
Does that work for transparencies, like the lights in the opening stage of Mega Man X4?

>>11833482
Kay

>>11847112
The pic already awsners your question.
yes, but might depend on how the game does it

>>11839826
is that in the latest dev blog or something?

>>11847097
>It now has the option to get rid of hardware dithering even on native resolution.

SSF had that 15 fucking years ago.

>>11847172
>emus stagnating
tragic

>>11845878
If you're not a spoiled retarded Zoomer like this one is >>11845895

t. millennial that got my first burned CD filled with Visual Boy Advance plus maybe 10 or so ROMs from a black kid I was friends with at school.

It blew my fucking mind that you could play recent GBA games that just came out on the Windows XP computer we had.

I then got into ZSNES which was pure fucking soul (though obviously not as accurate as SNES9X) and took the same setup to even work on the upstairs Windows 2000 computer upstairs.

Fuck, it was so fun to see that shit run. I remember playing F-Zero with that IBM keyboard on a Compaq Deskpro via ZSNES. Kinda weirdly felt right and was a blast.

Back when computers were that much inspiring. Ah, fuck. Now there is no mystery :'(

>>11845954
>>11846641
Ok then enlightened one, explain to me why just putting the ROM for CTR: Nitro Fueled in Ryujinx led to such massive texture glitches, audio glitches, and lag that the game was unplayable. If this stuff is so easy and idiot-proof then why did following a guide to the letter to set up the emulator and add a ROM lead to a game that doesn't work?
Just admit this shit isn't out of the box functional.

>>11848046
Some games just don't work. Look up a compatibility list. If you think switch emulators can run every game then you really are retarded.

What's the best way to convert one emulator saves to another?

>>11848762
beyond maybe renaming the file and extension they should be the same I think

>>11848762
Depends on the system retardo

>>11848781
nds emulators are notoriously bad if you trying to convert from desmusme and melonds for example

>>11847965
>you could play recent GBA games
it blew my mind that you could play those... on psp when it came out. some real late gba titles could be played on psp as they come out on gba, which was even more mind blowing to me

>>11847965
I remember being a retarded kid learning about emulation for the first time. There was a Zelda fan site in the mid-2000s that had a page of roms. I didn't really understand what they were besides knowing they somehow let you play the games on your pc. I downloaded A Link to the Past, and for some reason back then Windows automatically associated .smc files with internet explorer, so I thought that somehow the file would play like a flash game in the browser, but could never figure out how to get it to work.

I remember the exhilaration later on when I finally learned how emulators worked. I'll never forget the pure joy when I finally got Sonic 2 to boot on a Genesis emulator.

>>11824965
Why was metalnes never continued?

>>11826043
It's good, but the lag makes shmups impossible.

>>11834665
NTA, but
... guess who is responsible for both of those emulators? Guess which one is more recently updated?

>>11831824
>40k

>>11848425
So then you admit my original point, plenty of games aren't as simple as just booting it up and you have to fiddle with other tedious shit. Don't know why you couldn't just say that in the first place and decided to lie.

>>11849659
There's no fiddling. Plenty of games just don't work. Now go pay some idiot for your idiotic hard drive.

>>11849727
And what do you think gets them working? Black magic? It isn't random unfixable chance whether a ROM works or not you fucking troglodyte.

>>11849747
>And what do you think gets them working?
The emulator getting updated. In the case of switch emulation, very low.
>It isn't random unfixable chance whether a ROM works or not you fucking troglodyte.
It pretty much is. Xenogears I think up until only recently had a random chance that an attack by the final boss would freeze the game.

Ive been looking for the source code to Bio Forge for a while. It seems like some fucker got it open source but got all his repos got nuked.

>>11850351
Why? It is not like you are going to do anything with it.

Are dumb/newbie troubleshooting questions allowed?

Currently using Everdrive GBA Mini x5 1.16 with Jagoomba Color 0.5. Having trouble getting GB/C games to save manually and read the RTC. Saving and then restarting with the Jagoomba menu gets the save to stick, and games that auto save work normally, although the RTC doesn't work in either case. For a specific example, Harvest Moon 1 saves normally but the Harvest Sprite Help function doesn't work, and Harvest Moon 2 doesn't save. GBA games work fine in all regards, and diagnostics show that the Everdrive's RTC works fine. I even replaced the battery for shits and giggles. PC also shows that it's writing save files, just not reading them apparently. I don't know shit beyond that. What could be the problem?

>>11847172
>>11847857
ymir is open source and has a rapid pace of development, SSF is closed source stagnating garbage from a development perspective.

what is the likelihood of me getting pwned if i directly download modern nintendo ROM's without a VPN ?
i know its common sense to use one when torrenting in places that enforce copyright but say i download a Wii U / Switch ROM directly from a site without one, would i get fucked ?

>>11851783
I forgot to use my VPN when downloading Switch ROMs once, and I got a call from my ISP.

>>11851783
100% likelihood. I once downloaded a ROM of Balloon Fight for the NES and the Nintendo ninjas showed up and stuck a balloon pump up my ass. Suffice to say, I now live with a permanent reminder not to steal from Nintendo-sama. It ain't worth it, friend.

>>11851039
They are if its a question about emulation.

>>11851897
kek

How is PS2 and Gamecube emulation on the Retroid Pocket 5?

>>11851980
Fine but I would also not trust retroid given their history.

>>11851983
What did they do?

>>11851984
Lie to everyone about the screen of the retroid pocket mini and essentially sent out a product with a fucked up screen, then spent months slowly backpedaling and blame shifting while getting youtubers to run cover for their bullshit until it was finally undeniably proven what they did. Thats the biggest thing anyway.

>>11851783
DDLs are safe, which is why a lot of people prefer them to torrents

>>11851039
>>11851973
Update on this, enabling RTC on Goomba itself enabled it on all GB/C games. Before, I couldn't turn the option on for the games, now it's on for all of them by default.

The saving issue is exclusive to the GB/C games, and only those with manual saving. There's also a workaround, saving the game then restarting or exiting from the Goomba menu gets the save to stick, although exiting just restarts the game. Also, it's only a workaround, not a fix, as it needs to be done every time. All of this leads me to believe that it's an issue with the emulator and not the flashcart or the ROMs.

>>11852313
Just get an sp dude.

Anyone here familiar with the Amiga Game Selector? I put it on automatic load and now it boots to a game at launch and I don't know how to make it stop. Nigger.

>>11823421
I started eg just to shitpost in, unfortunately some goy took over making these threads. Sorry bruv.

>>11823349 (OP) (OP)
dude fuck on here to /vr/
this board is already suffering from bot generals and sonic adventure unironic defenders
everyone needs an emulation general, especially since it relates to the very core of retro gaming
keep it up, legend!

>>11823349 (OP)
dude fuck on here at /vr/
this board is already suffering from bot threads and sonic adventure unironic defenders
everyone needs an emulation general, especially since it relates to the very core of retro gaming
keep it up, legend!

>>11853042
I ended up redownloading the whole thing, the hdf file itself gets modified so I had to do that

Is it better emulate sonic adventure on dolphin or flycast?

Does MouseInjector work on Linux through Wine/Lutris?

>>11853419
MouseInjector also needs Duckstation v0.1-5943, Windows version: https://github.com/duckstation/old-releases/releases/tag/v0.1-5943

Why is navigating the menus in retroarch such an such an annoying pain in the ass. You can have what you want to select highlighted with your mouse curser and that won't be what's selected. Often times it's what was selected a moment ago. No wonder retroarch installations break all the time. They'll work fine until you start trying to tweak settings and because the menu system is so poorly designed you're clicking on things you don't even have highlighted.
That's got to be my NUMBER ONE complaint with retroarch. FIX YOUR FUCKING MENUS.

>>11853990
Works for me.

I don’t believe in emulation it’s theft and not the way the original developers meant for the game to be played also I love sucking cock.

>>11853990
The RetroArch menu was designed to be controlled with a controller on a multitude of systems. Mouse input is an afterthought.

>>11853990
I switch to xmb, and always have a controller on hand for when I open it, feels way better
>>11854325
yeah I can see that

>>11853413
>dolphin
No. Vanilla SADX is the worst way to play the game, either play the Dreamcast original, or use this to turn the PC version of SADX into the DC version except 60 FPS and widescreen:
https://gitlab.com/PiKeyAr/sadx-mod-installer/-/wikis/home

>>11854325
>Mouse input is an afterthought.
Then why does it have computer cores? Honestly I can't think of another piece of software that handles mouse inputs so poorly.

>>11853990
It is mainly designed for TVs sar

>>11855827
So why should people use retroarch over Launchbox?

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