Have you cleared the Ancient Cave, /vr/?

Sure have - Its been a while though and I used Dekar to cheese the final boss. Did anyone ever finish the Ancient cave on the GBC? 200 floors seems fucking bonkers

>>11825252 (OP)
I have. Loved it as much as the actual game.

>Dungeons and puzzles that put Zelda to shame
>No random encounters
>Great characters and a finale thats easily a contender for best in the genre
>Ancient cave could easily had been its own game and here its just a fun thing they threw in
>God tier OST

I love Lufia 2 so much bros

>>11825252 (OP)
no I played Lufia 1 and didn't really feel compelled to play 2

>>11825334
My advice, play it.
Lufia 1 is like a 6/10 RPG at best, but Lufia 2 is a 9.5 without a doubt.
Would be a 10 if the American localization wasn't fucked beyond belief, but it says a lot how little that affected my enjoyment.

>>11825334
Lufia 1 is fine, but its defo a very archetypical DQ clone of its time

Lufia 2 on the other hand is an insane step up quality wise in every metric and easily one of the best RPGs on the console - You should at least check it out

>>11825459
>and easily one of the best RPGs on the console
It's true, and that says a lot because this is the fucking SNES we're talking about. Home to Chrono Trigger, FF4/5/6, EarthBound, Terranigma, Illusion of Gaia, Rudra no Hihou, Live a Live, Brain Lord, and so on

Lufia 2 is literally the only JRPG I respect outside of squaresoft.

>But what about..

No. Only thing remotely close is phantasy 4. But sprite work...music..etc etc there are no rivals. Lufia 2 measures up because some really compelling gameplay/puzzles and also main girl gets cucked

>>11825342
So how does that affect the original version from not being a 10?

>>11826505
It doesn't. Lufia 2 is a 9.5, but if I spoke Japanese I'd probably be able to say Estpolis Denki 2 is a 10.

>>11826472
phantasy 4 is really good and has a lot of hidden depth if you're willing to properly analyze it...but it's so damn short. I wish it had a cave of its own, fuck.

>>11825317
I'd use Dekar even if it wasnt the meta tbdesu, I love that guy

>>11825252 (OP)
Yes, both ways: By killing the big jelly in time and by killing my party before the jelly could heal them up. This was also nearly 30 years ago.

>>11825331
I have yet to play another JRPG that has puzzles like Lufia 2.
>>11825334
You're missing out. Lufia 2 isn't even in the same galaxy as Lufia 1. They're almost nothing alike.
>>11827725
Best character in the game by far

>>11825252 (OP)
The awe size of that laddie

So did anyone with vpn gathered anything at that Lufia 3 auction?

>>11828185
>Lufia 3 auction

Did I miss something?

>>11825252 (OP)
unironically unsolvable because the game up to this point never told you that you can rotate in place by holding the shoulder button. its not intuitive and other jrpgs at the time didnt use mechanics like that.

>>11830981
the game literally tells you in the tutorial dungeon (and in the manual, but its worded poorly there). the problem is that its the first time SINCE then that the function is necessary for a puzzle, and its like 6 whole dungeons since then. feel free to stay salty, but know that you're objectively wrong.

>>11831034
>manual
I am sure most people read though their manual before they played the game or even had one to begin with. I mean you not just understand what the actual problem is and you even remember the particular puzzle because you know thats bullshit.

>>11830981
could be worse...

>>11830981
>Japfags got a trivial "choose a door" puzzle
>For some reason they decided to change the puzzle completely in the western release and made it the hardest fucking puzzle in the game for some reason

Always wondered why they did this desu

>>11831725
as faggy and retarded as this puzzle is. its nothing compared to this. the other ice pillar puzzle one is even worse. its basically just trial and error.

>>11831039
i remember it for 2 reasons.
1: the first time i played it as a kid, i wasnt allowed much screen time, so i basically only did about 1 dungeon per day, so it was literally like a week after the tutorial dungeon and i forgot that it was a function. i was very frustrated and asked my older brother (it was basically "his" game anyway, and he had beaten it long before i ever picked it up) and he said something about being able to pivot in place and we figured it out. because i was so stumped and frustrated, the solution really stuck with me. when i replayed the game some time later (maybe even shortly after with the "retry" mode), i remember doing the tutorial dungeon and going "ohhhhh, so THATS how you're supposed to know"
2: i've seen other people (usually here, and with great exaggeration like you with "literally impossible! how were you supposed to know?!") complain about the same thing, and giving them the simple answer. the game DOES tell you, but the problem is just the pacing and actual usage is a bit lacking. as long as you remember that its a function, that puzzle isnt bad. there are definitely more hidden/obscure solutions in the game, like >>11831049 where theres a pot hidden behind one of the pillars that you'll only find through usage of a strategy guide, or recognizing "i can usually walk behind pillars, but not this one. what gives?". luckily you CAN solve it with the bat, but its tedious rng waiting.

while not every puzzle is flawless, this game as a whole kicks the absolute shit out of zelda dungeons.

>>11825317
there's a brutal boss on the 200th floor, I beat it once (with save states)

what do we think of the character designs in the DS remake compared to the original?

i like DS maxim and dekar better. DS tia looks better as an rpg character, but the story point that she's just a normy is better conveyed with the OG. i like DS selan better too, except that i wish they kept the green hair. arty and guy are better in the OG.

>>11835025
My biggest issue outside of everyone's "distressed" face looking as if they got a finger shoved up their asses is that apparently "suitcase with springloaded boxing glove/bear trap inside" is a common thing in that world now that can be bought in every weapon store and Dekar is even a master in THAT.

>>11825252 (OP)
Game?

>>11835289
Lufia 2.
Play it if >>11825331 appeals to you.

>>11835328
Do I need to play Lufia 1?

>>11835367
no (and i wouldnt recommend it either). lufia 2 is a prequel, and vastly superior in every way.

I do prefer the semi openness and hidden items of Lufia 1
>story says go to cave
>instead walk ahead and reach a town on the other end of the continent
>check fountain for x potion which sells for ridiculous money and lets me gear my team with equipment that pulverizes everything in the cave

>>11835367
I don't think you need to play either, anon.