Does anybody else miss trainers? :(

Yes. Built in antivirus makes them impossible to run :(

>>11828695 (OP)
lol wut? trainers are more common today than they've ever been, and you can even do them yourself using cheatengine.
stop being retarded

>>11828695 (OP)
they still exist :(

No, because I wasn't a dumb faggot that had to cheat at videogames.

>>11829561
Imagine being enough of a no life loser that you play games so long you get good at them.

>>11828695 (OP)
Why would you use a trainer for a game that literally has built in cheat codes?

>>11828695 (OP)
Holy shit yes, they were maximum comfy.

>>11830045
>Appeal to Normie
>on 4chan

>>11829536
>>11829530
Doesn't DRM fuck with using executable trainers in modern games?

>>11829530
Never heard of cheat engine, but I was more referring to the ones back in like 2003 you could download from gamescopyworld or whatever it was and off keygen websites

>>11830171
DRM and anti-cheat are not the same thing, one can exist without the other.
As for the topic, the trainers not just exist today, some even charge for them.

>>11829530
Nobody makes tables anymore.

>>11830292
But they both work in memory, right?

>>11830093
>normie

>>11828695 (OP)
>Does anybody else miss trainers? :(
they still exist.

>>11830171
>Doesn't DRM fuck with using executable trainers in modern games?
depends on the game. traditionally, trainers were on cracked games and were supplied by the cracking groups. this sort of stopped during the 2000s for various reasons and now people rely on useless faggots to fill the void so might work, might not. might require specific copy. etc.

>>11830174
>gamescopyworld
Holy shit, i remember it now!

Sure

>>11828695 (OP)
Yeah, when I was like 14 years old I learned how to make a trainer for my favorite game (Nox). It was fun fucking around with game memory in raw hex and just seeing what would happen, hoping I wouldn't crash the game.

They were particularly fun when they did weird stuff that wasn't available in the game originally. There was one glitch in Nox that basically made it so you would equip every single weapon in the game all at the same time, instead of just one. It was rad.

lol you do realise these trainers are just modifying values in memory. Get a good memory editor and stop being retards.

The homm2 one

>>11828695 (OP)
these are pretty much impossible to find nowadays, there used to be so many but were always niche hacker toys.
For the people calling OP a retard, you are missing the point, messing with memory is fun, but trainers were the product of people constantly dgging to find stuff hidden deep into the code, and easily made available for people to enjoy, like cut unfinished content and mechanics.

>>11828695 (OP)
they still exist and very popular.
I use them to cut out grinding in some games. like I don't want to spend 10 hours collecting materials to craft 1 item

>>11828695 (OP)
i still have hundreds of thousands of usernames and passwords and dirty "cybersex" chat logs and shit like that from when I used to put keyloggers into trainers I made for games back in the late 90s.

>>11828695 (OP)
most of the games I enjoy today have built-in dev consoles that you can mess with and modify the game state, generally with more functionality than an old trainer.

why were they called trainers anyway

>>11833193
Which games?

>>11833241
I dunno, but they were a resolut of early cart2disk copier piracy

>>11828695 (OP)
Trainers were one of the best features you got out of modding an original Xbox and I haven't seen any other console that's been able to replicate it since

>>11833269
>cart2disk

What platform? Like c64 or even earlier?

>>11828695 (OP)
Imagine needing trainers for AOE2, which comes with inbuilt cheats.

>>11833286
Trainers on Xbox aren't really any different to GameShark/Action Replay/etc codes on PS2 and GC (and others). The only real difference is there wasn't a commercial product released to give that functionality on Xbox, only homebrew. Technically there were some GS and AR branded products to help cheat in Xbox games, but they could only edit saves on memory cards, not realtime RAM manipulation like the traditional ones.

>>11828695 (OP)

>>11828695 (OP)
cheating is boring

>>11835662
It's very fun when you're a child.

rented games because the magazines i read had cheat codes. for a long time i didn't know what 'god mode' meant i was just looking for invincibility

>>11835662
Cheating is the only way games stay fun. Playing normally is dreary and dull as shit.

Ahh

>>11828695 (OP)
never used one.
at most i used built-in cheats.

>>11833241
>why were they called trainers anyway
People who like RTS know they can't attract new players without casualizing the learning curve with cheats. It simply takes too many hours to git gud on your own.
This is sensible, up to a point. I don't enjoy playing RPGs with dozens of hours of grinding unless I can take a shortcut with infinite gold to buy the best equipment all the time.

Said

>>11828695 (OP)
I'm not gay so no :(

>>11829768
kek

>>11829530
>>11829536
That wasn't the question though you guys.

I miss the times when the warez scene used to release a fuckton, yes. Now there's like barely a single release group for those compared to 20 years ago when every group had a trainer/intro guy