Thread 11831753 - /vr/ [Archived: 653 hours ago]

Anonymous
6/28/2025, 8:12:12 PM No.11831753
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This game shouldn't be called Doom because it plays more like a Resident Evil clone and a bad one at that.
No one asked for RE in drab, samey looking sci-fi levels. This game sucks t.b.h.
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Anonymous
6/28/2025, 8:26:00 PM No.11831781
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>Resident Evil
Maybe an RE4 clone but that's still being too generous.
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Anonymous
6/28/2025, 8:28:48 PM No.11831787
>>11831781
>Maybe an RE4 clone but that's still being too generous.

Okay, in that case an RE4 clone that's also trying to be Half-Life. Either way, it's a terrible forgettable piece of shit.
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Anonymous
6/28/2025, 8:34:24 PM No.11831802
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So forgettable it keeps getting similar threads. At least the OP pic is different if only slightly.
Anonymous
6/28/2025, 8:38:34 PM No.11831813
This game was so good it still makes autistic normalfags seethe for not being an idtech 2 clone
Anonymous
6/28/2025, 8:41:30 PM No.11831820
>>11831753 (OP)
oh sweet it's this thread again
Anonymous
6/28/2025, 9:03:31 PM No.11831880
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I love Doom 3 and I love RE.
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Anonymous
6/28/2025, 9:22:02 PM No.11831918
>>11831880
kek great image
Anonymous
6/28/2025, 9:40:49 PM No.11831948
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>>11831880
Based, OP is a faggot
Anonymous
6/28/2025, 10:48:38 PM No.11832046
meds
Anonymous
6/28/2025, 11:07:34 PM No.11832063
Doom 3 isn't perfect, there's things I wish was better about it, but I still think it's a fairly good game and I enjoy playing it.
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Anonymous
6/29/2025, 12:12:32 AM No.11832113
>>11831753 (OP)
I finished it recently. I had tried a few times in the past but got bored before the end. It feels like a 10 hour long tech demo. The first stage is like 90% of the game and is extremely repetitive. The first hour is fun but after a while it becomes annoying and predictable. I've been trying the Resurrection of Evil expansion too and it looks worse somehow and the movement feels weird and the guns sound different and stupid and I don't know why they made all these kind of changes instead of adding some actual variety to the environments.
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 1:20:33 AM No.11832231
>>11831753 (OP)
Re4 shouldn't be called RE cause it plays like doom
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Anonymous
6/29/2025, 1:54:33 AM No.11832287
>>11832231
Resident Evil 4 plays slow and clunky as balls if you want to actually compare it to any of the Doom games, that comparison doesn't work at all.
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Anonymous
6/29/2025, 2:05:12 AM No.11832305
>>11831753 (OP)
I think it's interesting how this Hell Knight design stuck.
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 2:22:07 AM No.11832334
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>>11832063
I wish there were more enemies, some more ruthless monsters, and a smaller ammo economy. At this point there's a lot of mods that help out with all this so I'm fairly pleased with it these days.
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 2:33:31 AM No.11832365
>>11832287
RE4 is all about horde fighting and weapon choice with plentiful but not outrageous health and ammo drops.
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Anonymous
6/29/2025, 2:50:10 AM No.11832408
>>11832365
Sure, but Doom also rewards a lot of swift movement. You kind of couldn't do something like Final Doom with the movement speed of Resident Evil 4, it's just not even close to fast and responsive enough.
Doom also has many enemies with guns, and infighting as a mechanic.
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 9:29:22 PM No.11834125
>>11831753 (OP)
OP is a faggot. Doom 3 is a masterful horror game.
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 9:35:35 PM No.11834138
DOOM 3 isnt so much a game as a satire of the FPS genre. the gameplay consists of walking through endless identical metal corridors, shooting a small variety of identical enemies, talking to identical NPCs (who all happen to be some derivation of a bald guy with green eyes or a half asian dude in a yellow jump suit with a Wally Cleaver hairdo), listening to some faggot on a radio tell you where to go next while you happen upon "audio logs" filled with meaningless purile dialogue that serve as a weak attempt to fill in backstory, and occasionally you'll be tasked with doing random dumb unfun shit like picking up toxic waste barrels with a claw machine like you're a fucking waste management technician. add to this the game's notoriously shit weapons, B movie monster closet jump scares (if you can even call a dead Howie Mandell lurching at you from around a corner "scary"), retarded enemy designs such as a flying bald woman's head with pirhana teeth, a fucking sprint meter, a flashlight that you had to toggle because the Xbox version couldn't handle gunfire and dynamic lighting at the same time so they gimped both versions (because, big surprise, DOOM 3 is a console shooter and a bad one at that), reddit-tier references and in-jokes like the heckin' wacky turkey puncher arcade machine, and of course, the "plot" which is akin to an especially bad vin diesel movie and -- despite a 5min+ long unskippable intro sequence and multiple cutscenes -- somehow manages to be less enthralling than the original game's story which barely existed at all. DOOM 3 is one of the biggest pieces of shit ever made.
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Anonymous
6/29/2025, 9:38:45 PM No.11834148
>>11834138
Eat shit you fucking moron. Doom 3 is a work of art.
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Anonymous
6/29/2025, 9:40:09 PM No.11834151
>>11834148
the truth hurts, bud
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Anonymous
6/29/2025, 9:41:37 PM No.11834152
Doom 3 was always awful. Slow, boring, and dull.
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 9:43:31 PM No.11834156
>>11834138
This but half life
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 9:56:25 PM No.11834186
>>11834151
Yes. The truth is that Doom 3 is an amazing game.
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Anonymous
6/29/2025, 10:02:19 PM No.11834195
>>11834186
you must really like late 2000s/early 2010s shooter schlock then, because D3 was basically the forefather of them all
>linear
>objectives and checkpoints
>marine man barking in your ear
>collectibles and locker codes
>encounters against a handful of enemies instead of large groups
>mini games
>muh physics and obligatory gravity gun
>cutscenes with some dr. evil-adjacent plotting to take over the world
it's crazy to me that Halo bears the burden of "baby's first FPS" when games like D3 and HL2 started the real cancer.
Dave
6/29/2025, 10:10:43 PM No.11834205
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>>11831753 (OP)
>Resident Evil clone

Meds
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 10:57:17 PM No.11834329
>>11831753 (OP)
I like this game more than the first two Doom's
Anonymous
6/30/2025, 3:32:10 AM No.11834846
>>11831753 (OP)
>Resident Evil clone
Buddy, that game predates RE4. If anything Capcom ripped it off.
And then EA definitely ripped it off with Dead Space
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Anonymous
6/30/2025, 4:56:09 AM No.11834982
>>11831781
>BFG version
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Anonymous
6/30/2025, 5:10:02 AM No.11834998
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>>11834982
BFG Edition makes things worse but vanilla can drown you in shells too.
>MST0K
Anonymous
6/30/2025, 11:26:00 PM No.11836645
>>11834846
Now that you said it, I definitely can see all the inspiration deadspace took from doom 3. I like doom 3 a lot, I like finding little audio files that fill in some gaps in the plot which is thin as hell but itโ€™s there. I love the lighting and the atmosphere. I will say the game is really samey after awhile but eh, itโ€™s the only doom Iโ€™ve completed and visually it still looks good to this day. I do need to play rez of evil just for completions sake.
Anonymous
7/1/2025, 6:39:38 AM No.11837305
>>11831753 (OP)
Doom 3 is much closer to System Shock 2 than it is to any RE game.
Anonymous
7/1/2025, 8:16:21 AM No.11837401
>>11831753 (OP)
>game from 2004 still makes OG fags seethe without doing anything
i wonder what would happen to you all if this game got a remake
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Anonymous
7/1/2025, 8:25:35 AM No.11837407
>>11831753 (OP)
Yo dawg fuck off because this is one of the best survival horror FPS games ever made. Go play zoomer Fortnite or some game with neon shit popping up every second.
Anonymous
7/1/2025, 8:31:51 AM No.11837414
>>11837401
This game basically is a remake. It's a remake of the original Doom but with modern technology to better express their original intent. Doom was always a horror game, it's not Quake.
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Anonymous
7/1/2025, 9:15:32 AM No.11837461
>>11837414
>Doom was always a horror game
t. retarded zoomer
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Anonymous
7/1/2025, 9:31:19 AM No.11837478
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>Doom 3 leans to horror
>RE 4 leans to action
Interesting switch there
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Anonymous
7/1/2025, 10:59:55 AM No.11837541
>>11837478
Shinji Mikami said RE4 went to action because REmake and Zero sold like shit on Gamecube and he thought people don't want horror anymore.
Nintendo fans ruined Resident Evil
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Anonymous
7/1/2025, 11:36:07 AM No.11837585
>>11837461
>frequent dark and even pitch black lighting
>countless jump scares
>invisible cloaked enemies
>mutilated impaled bodies everywhere
You never played Doom have you? It's obviously a horror game.
Anonymous
7/1/2025, 11:37:43 AM No.11837586
>>11837478
Mid 2000s was an age when AAA games embraced bold experimentation. We will sadly never get it back again.
Anonymous
7/1/2025, 1:25:48 PM No.11837707
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>>11837461
Doom is an action game, but it always deliberately aimed for a horror atmosphere for certain levels. I'll remind you that the two primary inspirations for Doom in a stylistic sense was the movies Aliens and Evil Dead 2, and in extension also Alien and Evil Dead.

So is the original Doom and Doom 2 scary? Not particularly, by modern standards, but in 1993 and 1994 this was very new shit to people, and it's shat its fair number of people's pants in its day.
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Anonymous
7/1/2025, 2:13:14 PM No.11837758
Doom 3 is a great game
Anonymous
7/1/2025, 2:33:40 PM No.11837780
the parts where doom 3 suffers the most are the parts where it tries to be an action game
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Anonymous
7/1/2025, 2:46:15 PM No.11837795
>>11837541
>Nintendo fans ruined Resident Evil
And yet the game that followed RE3 on PS1 was code monica on DC with a piddly 1m sales. Sounds like SEGA ruined RE if anything.
Anonymous
7/1/2025, 2:47:48 PM No.11837802
>>11837780
It suffers from the very fucking beginning and let's not pretend otherwise.
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Anonymous
7/1/2025, 2:50:18 PM No.11837807
>>11837802
The beginning is the best part of the game by a mile. Insanely scary and atmospheric. Very few games measure up to Doom 3's early moments.
Anonymous
7/1/2025, 2:51:26 PM No.11837809
>>11837802
eh it was pretty impressive to look at at the time, the way you interacted with screens was cool and the whole opening sequence in general has a great atmosphere, that one mirror jumpscare shocked the hell outta me as a kid and probably would as an adult if i didn't know it was coming
then the game turns into a slog of plinking spongey enemies with wimpy guns
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Anonymous
7/1/2025, 2:58:39 PM No.11837826
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>>11837809
Everyone's dropping pretty quickly in Doom 3, at least as much if not faster than Quake 2 in comparison. Quake 1 has "spongier" fights and even those can go by with the amount of explosives you get.
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Anonymous
7/1/2025, 3:03:38 PM No.11837837
>>11831753 (OP)
>DOOM 3 not being doom

I kind of agree the game is extremely linear to the point that spawned enemies only trigger by scripted events, like in resident evil. You also have โ€œpuzzlesโ€, most of which are guessing stuff. Not much of an upgrade from keycard hunting. DOOM 64 which people call โ€˜'real doom 3โ€™' also has many of the same problems, but Doom 64 has a better atmosphere than this game. Despite being annoying
Anonymous
7/1/2025, 3:03:44 PM No.11837838
>>11837826
your guns in quake are much, much punchier than in doom 3 and you're usually not crammed into tight corridors, even if it takes a similar amount of time to down an enemy it feels different, particularly when you're firing a peashooter at zombies that hardly react to hits
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Anonymous
7/1/2025, 3:12:12 PM No.11837849
>>11837838
>your guns in quake are much, much punchier than in doom 3 and you're usually not crammed into tight corridors
Quake loves putting you in tight corridors almost as much as Doom 3 does, it's where a lot of the difficulty for both games comes from, and that "punchiness" gets very subjective with how often you're going against ogres and similarly sized health pools. The "punch" from something like D3's shotgun is similarly subjective but that can one-shot zombie commandos and below. If you're really good you're oneshotting revenants and chainsaw zombies, too.
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Anonymous
7/1/2025, 3:15:55 PM No.11837859
>>11837849
>one-shot zombie commandos and below. If you're really good you're oneshotting revenants and chainsaw zombies, too.
you've got me wanting to play doom 3 again just to try this out lol because i don't remember the combat being anything like that
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Anonymous
7/1/2025, 3:24:26 PM No.11837872
>>11837859
Headshot damage multipliers is what helps out there. The harder part is getting used to it's basically melee range.
Anonymous
7/1/2025, 7:12:24 PM No.11838151
>>11837707
>Horror and action are somehow mutually exclusive
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Anonymous
7/1/2025, 9:24:58 PM No.11838316
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>>11831880
Anonymous
7/2/2025, 1:36:54 AM No.11838826
>>11831753 (OP)
Doom 3 plays like Quake actually.
Get better at strafejumping.
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Anonymous
7/2/2025, 1:44:49 AM No.11838847
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>>11831781
>>11831753 (OP)
>>11831787
It's system shock 2 doubling down on being spooky.
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Anonymous
7/2/2025, 2:05:53 AM No.11838886
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>>11838847
>SS2 clone
Nah, it would need some character skill progression, far more open ended levels, and way less enemies.
Anonymous
7/2/2025, 2:06:47 AM No.11838890
>>11831753 (OP)
why did they put a madness combat zombie on the cover
Anonymous
7/2/2025, 2:44:53 AM No.11838945
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>>11838151
I don't think it necessarily is, which is why I argued against his point.

You can make the case that fast run and gun action isn't easily conducive to horror tension, in that a situation is always going to be less scary if the player has ready means or opportunity to fight any and all threats. However, that doesn't mean that there can't be any tension at all or that you can't have a good horror mood.

Classic Doom ultimately manages to achieve, in my own opinion, a pretty good horror mood at times. E2M6 is the best example in the first game, because the dark wooden maze area is hard to see in, cramped, and crawling with nasty fuckers hard to see, not just Pinkies/Specters, but also a few Barons on the way back from the Red Key room, which you might have to use Rockets against in closer quarters than you'd want, it's quite oppressive.

Doom 3 falters a lot in the horror because the surprise ambushes are rarely deadly or oppressive, it's never the stronger and meaner monsters popping out of a wall compartment really sudden with "Oh fuck, gotta think quick!", it's only the low tier trash monsters which do little damage and which you can effortlessly delete with just a few rounds of low tier ammo.
Doom 3 doesn't have any encounter like the dark maze in E2M6, and it's a shame because it would easily have been doable.

Mind, I still quite like Doom 3, and it has some pretty fucking excellent horror sound design, but there's things it just doesn't do as good as it should.
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Anonymous
7/2/2025, 2:50:02 AM No.11838954
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>>11838826
It IS actually Quake-ish, you're a mobile motherfucker, which is part of why I think Doom 3 actually is pretty fun.

>>11837849
I prefer using the Chainsaw on the Tentacle Commando, you can crouch to duck their lash, move in, and then split them from the bottom up, a bit like in The Running Man. The Chainsaw is so fucking fun in Doom 3.
Anonymous
7/2/2025, 4:38:22 AM No.11839131
>>11838945
Maybe it depends on how we define horror. What I really think is that Doom 3 is a true Doom, how it should be and Nu Doom like Doom 2016 is a cartoony travesty based on a distorted idea of that the originals were.

Personally I am a huge fan of Doom 3 and the classic Dooms. The point about the larger monsters is good though. I think Doom 3 really is more similar to the original games than some people think, the exploration/great attention to atmosphere/getting key cards/ammo and resource management are all there. Lots of parts in Doom 3 where there was tension caused by ammo management, will I have enough ammo, what will happen next etc. that I really enjoyed.
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Anonymous
7/2/2025, 6:29:42 AM No.11839278
>>11839131
>Doom 2016 is a cartoony travesty based on a distorted idea of that the originals were.
Exactly. 2016 should have went for Doom 3's realistic style. Instead we got silly looking clown monsters. The more cartoony look works on the originals because of the primitive graphics so your imagination fills the space while having enemies be easily recognizable.

Cartoonish enemies in a high poly super detailed game makes it look like a cheap parody of Doom.
Anonymous
7/2/2025, 8:31:34 PM No.11840340
You forgot to incorporate SEGA, an N64 game, or Halo. Best I can do is 2/5