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Anonymous
6/29/2025, 5:33:53 AM No.11832756
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What could Sega have done differently? Was there any possible world in which the Saturn succeeded?
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Anonymous
6/29/2025, 5:45:35 AM No.11832773
>>11832756 (OP)
Unfortunately, no, but the damage could have been mitigated. By decreasing Saturn expenditures, coasting through 5th gen and delaying the Dreamcast to 2000/2001, they could have gone for a more tactical, slow burn console war strategy.

In 7th gen, they would have defeated the Wii and by reusing the original Dreamcast controller prototype coming out earlier. Then, they would have firmly taken the crown in 8th gen, where halfway through, Sony would have left the industry along with Nintendo. Microsoft then merges with Sega and they become the hegemon of the console industry.
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 5:54:49 AM No.11832794
>>11832756 (OP)
>Was there any possible world in which the Saturn succeeded?
no, the Playstation just had too much coming its way.
but there is a world where the Saturn put up a much closer fight. it would have taken luck though.
>a decent Sonic game is released. something like SRB2. while this does not beat Mario 64, it at least keeps the plumber busy.
>Sony rejects Mega Man 8 and Capcom goes through with their threat to make RE2 Saturn exclusive. the Saturn now becomes the Resident Evil console.
if those two things had happened, the Saturn would have put up a better fight against the N64. it already had a series to compete with Star Fox in Panzer Dragoon. you'd have to invent a whole new franchise to compete with Zelda. what else is going to, Virtual Hydlide?
with FF7 and MGS coming to PS1, there's no way Sega was going to beat Sony, but maybe they could have closed the gap between themselves and Nintendo with a bit of luck on their side.
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 6:13:04 AM No.11832846
>>11832756 (OP)
They could have made a 3d sonic game at launch as a pack in
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 6:24:56 AM No.11832869
>>11832756 (OP)
advertising. sony succeeded because of advertising. there are very few autists in the world so asking /vr/ why commercial products succeeded or failed is like asking /r9k/ why your date ended in sex or not. the huge majority of sales are made first by normies buying the hype, and later by normies following the crowd. sony advertised the fuck out of the playstation and managed to get early momentum and that's the only reason it won. i might have heard of the saturn back then but i can't recall knowing anything about it until a decade later at least. i saw playstation shit everywhere, and nintendo managed to appeal to multiplayer fans which most normies are. the argument i heard most back then was single vs multiplayer meaning sony vs nintendo. nobody seemed to know the saturn even existed. a sonic game at launch would have attracted autists only, so like 1% of the market share. sega failed to advertise effectively, if they had advertised better than their competition they would have won. that's just how capitalism works when neurotypicals are the vast majority of the market.
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Anonymous
6/29/2025, 6:27:12 AM No.11832878
>>11832869
we've had this thread a million times and yet someone like you always manages to come along and say the dumbest thing anyone's ever said about the Saturn
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Anonymous
6/29/2025, 6:31:20 AM No.11832887
>>11832756 (OP)
>What could Sega have done differently?
Have the Japanese controller in America from day 1, not do the 32X, should've had a Sonic game as the launch title.
>Was there any possible world in which the Saturn succeeded?
If it had a stronger launch and more hype, I could see them potentially courting some of the Devs that went to Sony, but Sega being Sega prevented that from happening.

Also this system is a litmus test for autism.
I have one too, don't worry.
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 6:33:49 AM No.11832894
Bot thread.
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Anonymous
6/29/2025, 6:37:14 AM No.11832903
>>11832894
I'm not a bot, I just wanted to see if people would remark on this thread being posted for the millionth time
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 6:39:22 AM No.11832908
>>11832878
if you think 99% of people buying video games are anything like the posters here you're delusional. starfield had 6 million players on the day it launched. the epitome of slop holocausted any semblance of respectability video games as an artform in a single day.
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Anonymous
6/29/2025, 6:41:12 AM No.11832915
>>11832756 (OP)
The Saturn did succeed in the spiritual sense. If you had changed it in all the ways to make the most money then it would have just been the PlayStation. And it wouldn't have been the weird Saturn we love today.
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 6:42:18 AM No.11832918
>>11832908
this isn't /v/
go air your grievances over there
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Anonymous
6/29/2025, 6:47:04 AM No.11832929
>>11832894
I don't think so. I think this is a shit poster thread, possibly a staff member but I doubt it. Falls between too much and too little effort. We will get bot replies though.
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 6:53:31 AM No.11832951
>>11832918
wtf are you on about? sony advertised in playboy, sega advertised in autismo sonic fan magazine or some shit. that's why sony won. nobody even knew that saturn existed outside of a tiny autistic corner of the market. it's useless to talk about sonic at launch on a console nobody ever heard of. video games weren't mainstream until at least the ps2 era with gta3 and yearly ea sports titles so unless somebody shoved an ad in your face unwarranted then you wouldn't know shit about them. sony shoved their ads in everyone's face and sega didn't. it's obvious to anyone not severely autistic who was old enough at that time to remember it why sony won.
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Anonymous
6/29/2025, 6:57:10 AM No.11832958
>>11832951
>video games weren't mainstream until at least the ps2 era
>sony advertised in playboy
it takes a special kind of retardation to completely contradict yourself in the same post lmfao
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Anonymous
6/29/2025, 7:03:30 AM No.11832974
>>11832958
explain how that's a contradiction. i don't see how one of the largest corporations in the world buying ad space in a popular magazine proves that the advertised product is mainstream. is it possible sony, the outsider new to the market, was attempting to reach an audience outside of the currently established market? you know, like the strategy every corporation uses when breaking into a new market?
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Anonymous
6/29/2025, 7:06:21 AM No.11832981
>>11832974
>explain how it's a contradiction that Sony advertised in mainstream magazines like Playboy but somehow gaming wasn't mainstream until years later
Holy fuck you're stupid lol
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Anonymous
6/29/2025, 7:15:31 AM No.11832992
>>11832981
when sony invented the world's first non-projection television in 1960 and advertised it in japan's most popular magazines, did that mean non-projection televisions were suddenly mainstream? even before the release of the television? according to you that's what it means. you're probably a fetal alcohol baby or something because you don't understand cause and effect.
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Anonymous
6/29/2025, 7:16:48 AM No.11832997
>>11832756 (OP)
Saturn was $100 more than ps1 which was fucking stupid
No sonic launch titles which was fucking egregious. Sonic 3d blast not good enough

That's it. These two reasons already killed the Saturn. And whoever has squaresoft was winning anyway.
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Anonymous
6/29/2025, 7:17:43 AM No.11833000
>>11832992
>when sony invented the world's first non-projection television in 1960
wut
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Anonymous
6/29/2025, 7:19:08 AM No.11833001
>>11832992
televisions were definitely mainstream tech in the 60s lol
just stop posting dude you're way too stupid for this conversation
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Anonymous
6/29/2025, 7:24:53 AM No.11833008
>>11832992
Television became standard in most homes in the 1960s. There's a reason radio dramas died in that decade.
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Anonymous
6/29/2025, 7:26:10 AM No.11833013
>>11832997
>square
ea, konami, capcom, eidos, sony themselves, activision, and even namco were all more important to the consoles success. square had 3 final fantasy games that sold and the rest of their catalog was buried under games like gran turismo, tekken, tomb raider, resident evil, tony hawks, and of course crash bandicoot. the psx in the west seemed to appeal to a totally different crowd than it did in japan. jrpgs were abundant but never sold all that well individually.
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 7:40:19 AM No.11833039
>>11833000
>>11833001
>>11833008
vacuum tube shitboxes aren't the same as portable transistorized non-projection crts. it doesn't matter, you all missed the point of the post. advertising a product in a mainstream medium doesn't somehow magically make the product mainstream. i could buy a primetime ad slot and advertise unicycles and according to the fetal alcohol tard in this thread that would make unicycle riding mainstream.
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Anonymous
6/29/2025, 7:41:21 AM No.11833042
>>11833039
>television isn't the same as television
lmfao. retard
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 7:50:20 AM No.11833056
>>11832756 (OP)
There weren't enough vaccines back then to make enough autistic trans kids to play the embarrassing baby games Segay makes. Stop making this thread every two fucking hours please.
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 9:17:03 AM No.11833161
>>11832756 (OP)
I dont know whats more disturbing, the fact that this question still gets asked despite being answered over a million times or the fact that people still attempt to answer it.