Thread 11837379 - /vr/ [Archived: 633 hours ago]

Anonymous
7/1/2025, 7:41:21 AM No.11837379
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We now have dumps of Pioneer Laseractive titles, thanks to Kineko Video and Gaming Alexandria.
There's no emulator to play them, but it's some progress, nonetheless.
https://archive.org/details/akuma-no-shinban-pioneer-laseractive-discdump-hiresscans
https://archive.org/details/ghostrush-pioneer-laseractive-discdump-hiresscans
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Anonymous
7/1/2025, 7:44:39 AM No.11837382
Thank God. Laserdiscs are club Med for disc rot.
Anonymous
7/1/2025, 7:47:39 AM No.11837385
Last year MAME finally added Dragon's Lair emulation using Domesday Duplicator LD rips as a source of software (the CHD file is 11GB), so maybe that could be a launching point for Laseractive emulation. I don't think that there's much going on inside a Laseractive, as far as gaming concerned it's just a LD player controlled by a Mega Drive/PC Engine expansion unit.
Anonymous
7/1/2025, 7:50:17 AM No.11837389
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I think the majority of people only know the Laseractive exists because of Retsupurae
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Anonymous
7/1/2025, 9:04:14 AM No.11837451
>>11837379 (OP)
>Thank God. Laserdiscs are club Med for disc rot.

Laser Disc video is pretty much uncompressed in quality. Unlike something like DVD. So the video/ audio quality of those laserdisc games are still pretty unmatched. I don't think there is a single home port of Dragon's Lair that has a video/ audio rip that looks as good as the original laser disc game. There have been DVD releases of Dragon's Lair (as well as other Laser disc games) that you could play on a DVD player.

https://youtu.be/cMY6Cu6meR4
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Anonymous
7/1/2025, 9:30:56 AM No.11837476
>>11837379 (OP)

43GB of RAW data from a game released in 1995. Suck it, Blu-Ray!
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Anonymous
7/1/2025, 10:20:44 AM No.11837517
Holy shit it's Seikima-II!
Anonymous
7/1/2025, 10:57:51 AM No.11837538
laserdisc analog
laserdisc analog
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>>11837379 (OP)
How do you 'dump' analogue media?
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Anonymous
7/1/2025, 11:15:34 AM No.11837563
>>11837538
You capture samples of the raw RF data from between when it's read by the pickup (whether that be a laser or magnetic head) and when it's decoded by the player. From there you can just write a program that can read and decode the RF data into whatever you want to extract from it (video, audio, metadata, etc.) just like a real player.
Capturing and decoding RF data like this has been used by software defined radios for decades, and more recently you've seen people image floppy disks this way to capture the weird formatting that was used on systems like the Apple II or on copy protected disks.
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Anonymous
7/1/2025, 12:09:31 PM No.11837619
isn't there a pioneer laseractive outrun?
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Anonymous
7/1/2025, 12:17:27 PM No.11837625
OutRun1987_LD_JP_Box_Front
OutRun1987_LD_JP_Box_Front
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>>11837619
There's no Mega LD OutRun game, but there was a video of OutRun gameplay released on LaserDisc in Japan.
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Anonymous
7/1/2025, 12:39:27 PM No.11837648
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>>11837451
>Laser Disc video is pretty much uncompressed in quality.
>>11837476
>43GB of RAW data from a game released in 1995. Suck it, Blu-Ray!
Laserdisks were analog, making them very tricky to dump without any quality loss unless you want absurd filesizes like this. They didn't hold 43GB of "data" any more than you can call an audio recording on a cassette data. It's just a capture of the laser itself an absolutely absurd sampling rate that is well beyond it's limits to make sure nothing that could have ever possibly read is not recorded in the capture.

>>11837538
That's exactly what the Nyquist–Shannon sampling theorem is for
>The theorem states that the sample rate must be at least twice the bandwidth of the signal to avoid aliasing. In practice, it is used to select band-limiting filters to keep aliasing below an acceptable amount when an analog signal is sampled or when sample rates are changed within a digital signal processing function.

Basically, if you want to ensure that you capture the entire signal and not lose any part of it, you want to sample it at more than double of it's original rate. If you had a 20K signal for example, sampling it at 44.1K would ensure you capture all of it.

>>11837563
According to the Domesday Duplicator (A device meant to tap into specific LD players to extract the disk's data like this) github page:
>The Domesday Duplicator is a LaserDisc capture focused, USB 3.0 based DAQ capable of 40 million samples per second acquisition of analogue RF data at 10-bits resolution, the data being in generic PCM style stream format is ready for FLAC compression or direct use with a wide range of decoders.

>The Domesday Duplicator captures the raw RF signal from a laserdisc player’s laser. The player provides the mechanical tracking, focus and movement of the laser over the disc’s surface and the duplicator records the signal. This effectively turns the laserdisc player into a highly accurate optical scanner.
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Anonymous
7/1/2025, 12:45:04 PM No.11837651
rf_rgb_comparison
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>>11837648
Forgot to post the link to the Domesday overview page:
https://github.com/simoninns/DomesdayDuplicator/wiki/Overview

This is the thing anyone making any decent archive dumps of a laserdisk is using
Anonymous
7/1/2025, 1:24:41 PM No.11837702
Nice to see some of this shit getting dumped. Funny that Demon Kakka had a game.
Anonymous
7/1/2025, 1:25:23 PM No.11837705
>>11837389
I have no idea what retsu is but laser discs are common knowledge in retro communities.
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Anonymous
7/1/2025, 3:07:43 PM No.11837843
>>11837625
huh
they made a video of a video game?
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Anonymous
7/1/2025, 3:21:11 PM No.11837867
>>11837648
Sampling at 20K wouldn't capture the 20K signal?
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Anonymous
7/1/2025, 3:26:55 PM No.11837875
>>11837867
The reason the sample rate needs to be double the bandwidth is because the signal, like all energy, travels as a wave, i.e. it has a high point and low point. If you were to sample a 20K sine wave at 20K, you'd capture all the high points but not any of the low points (or vice versa), and the resulting capture would just be a straight line.
Anonymous
7/1/2025, 3:34:55 PM No.11837886
>>11837625
Interesting, I heard about this vaguely last night and the thread made me want to ask cause I was curious. Really weird.
Anonymous
7/1/2025, 3:50:49 PM No.11837902
>>11837843
Yeah, there's a few. Galaxian3 got a commercial LD release that was the background footage and then the game in action.
Anonymous
7/1/2025, 4:51:42 PM No.11837979
>>11837389
Im so~old now.
Anonymous
7/1/2025, 5:03:18 PM No.11837991
Can these be re-encoded for people that don't care about autistic max quality shit?
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Anonymous
7/1/2025, 5:45:49 PM No.11838038
>>11837991
Are you retarded? Of course it can, use your brain for 10 seconds.
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Anonymous
7/1/2025, 6:07:52 PM No.11838071
>>11837705
Most people associate LaserDisc with movies, not video games.
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Anonymous
7/1/2025, 6:11:28 PM No.11838075
>>11838038
these aren't video files, retard.
Anonymous
7/1/2025, 7:51:02 PM No.11838197
>>11837991
Yes, in fact you have to because even high-end PCs can't decode the data in real time.
Anonymous
7/1/2025, 8:04:10 PM No.11838215
>>11838071
True isn’t the best version of Star Wars OG on laserdisc?
Anonymous
7/2/2025, 5:19:31 AM No.11839194
I hope Capacitance Electronic Discs are next.
https://youtu.be/r-0hQaQfgOU?t=906
Those are really fucking fragile.