I like Final Fantasy on a surface level I just wish the games were more fun to play and less mechanically predictable

That's what VIII is for. It's mechanically over-complicated and you have to pick which systems to interact with to match your play style. It takes a long time to find that all the systems even exist.

ALL of the "classic" JRPGs are BORING. Every single one! FF7, Wild Arms, SaGa, Metal Max, SMT, Valkyrie Profile, Phantasy Star, Grandia, Breath of Fire... THEY MAKE ME WANT TO FALL ASLEEP. Yes, even XenoGears and Chrono Trigger are SNOOZEFESTS. I don't care how deep the systems are, I don't give a shit how crazy the story gets, and I especially don't want to hear more of this revisionist bullshit about how these games "revolutionized" the industry. I have tried to get into everything from Dragon Quest to Langrisser and IT'S NOT FUN OKAY? At least with Ys there's cool music, and I'm not COMPLETELY opposed to games with JRPG mechanics, but holy fucking shit! I feel like I'm going insane! Keep in mind, I'm not some Nintendo faggot, some of the first games I ever played were Landstalker and King's Field, but lo and behold it turns out most actual JRPGs are fucking SLOGS with barely any adventure to be had that doesn't involve VN-tier amounts of text and unskippable cutscenes. If you look at a top 100 list of all the best games ever made, like fucking 25 of them are JRPGs. Why? Out of all the genres, why does this shit have to invade everything? Because they "legitimized" videogames as an art form or some crap? Look, I get they're beloved, I can see the appeal and I'll admit I should open up my mind and retry the saves I've made...But enough is enough! DOESN'T CHANGE THAT THESE GAMES ARE FUCKING BORING!

Fuck off, frog posting retard.

>>11841308 (OP)
Embrace hard type hacks. The good FF games all have them.

>>11841323
You are probably way more boring than those games zoomie

>>11841623
How drunk are you, blackjack davey? That's some of the most obvious bait, yo. When you look at that post, you should imagine the bait & tackle aisle at walmart.

>>11841308 (OP)
>I like Final Fantasy
Me too, but I hate how they're all about healing, since lack ways to prevent damage. Winning move is to destroy enemies quickly, then go to menus to heal up.

Offense trumps defense. Tedious. 10 finally fixed the issue.

>>11841308 (OP)
I hate ATB

>>11841791
same

>>11841323
spwp

>>11841308 (OP)
Old JRPGs are basically cookie clickers

>>11841308 (OP)
I like their music and artstyle (except for the chibi nonsense), but JRPG gameplay puts me to sleep. These games just have zero replayability, unless you are getting a kick from finding all secrets or whatever.

It's sad because I actually liked FF7 back in the eyes and thought the game was impressive and comfy, but the effect it had on videogames probably were horrible. Nowadays all games are just meant to be played through once, and then they go in the trash. The developers couldn't care less, as long as you buy their game

>>11841308 (OP)
>I like Final Fantasy on a surface level
I only like some of them.
The ones that lean too heavy into technology and guns are lame aesthetically.

>>11841308 (OP)
That's why you play them on emualtor at 4x speed during dungeons