I'm thinking more so when it comes to "normal" characters that aren't said to have explicit chi powers. Someone like Guile or Johnny Cage.

guile is swinging his fists so fast it causes sonic booms. he fucking says it, even

They're cool and add variety to gameplay.
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It’s pee. Whenever somebody throws a fireball it’s just pee. They take out their penis real quick and pee.

I figure Guile is just really strong, and so patriotic that he dedicated himself to his military training far more than anybody else. So much that he started throwing chi. Officially, he learned his fighting style from Charlie (explaining why they're similar), who I assume also learned it from advanced military training.

clever use of fireworks and other tricks

>>11842627
Canonically, guile is also supposed to be a total scrub compared to Charlie. Charlie can throw one handed SBs while Guile has to use both hands for example. I’ve never went out of my way to confirm this, but supposedly Guile is really weak in Alpha 3 to reflect this.

>>11842696
To me Guile and Charlie are like Ryu and Ken. Ryu and Guile are fundamentalists, they stick to the basics but have honed those basics to an incredibly fine edge. Charlie and Ken are specialists, they've already mastered the basics and take their techniques into new directions to make it their own.

>>11842603 (OP)
It comes out of power level thinking in manga and asian media, which is derived from chi and asian mysticism around martial arts.

In the mystical view, humans are not just matter but posses a special power called Chi. Some can harness this power more than others, giving them extra-ordinary powers.

You see in Dragon Ball how this is harnessed for chi blasts, which then were the direct inspiration for Street Fighter's projectiles. Ryu adn Ken even make the same poses as the Kamehameha .

it's just Ki man, every person in the SF world has it innately.
people are either taught or learn on their own how to use it and manifest it into the bullshit they do.
guile knows how to use his because charlie taught him.

>>11842603 (OP)
>creates sonic boom
>says sonic boom
>called sonic boom
>only thing he does called sonic boom

yea must be chi

>>11842603 (OP)
Idk they just do that.

>>11842603 (OP)
They clap/thrust their limbs together with the explosive force of their ki, which is why hadoukens have the hand sprite in them to reflect they're basically casting their palms at you.

>>11842603 (OP)
It's a video game.

>>11842607
>sonic boom
>travels well below the sound barrier

>>11843756
>sonic boom
>barely make a sound

>>11842603 (OP)

the energy is KI

>>11842603 (OP)
As a kid, I always thought it was the nigs were so strong that they could move their limbs with such force that it would cause a strong enough wind to knock into people.

I was also convinced similarly that double jumping was something feasibly possible if you had enough strength in your legs and you jumped then pushed down with your legs in the air it would create a current that would hit the ground and push you higher.

>>11843905
>nigs
Boxer doesn't have a projectile.

>>11842603 (OP)
It's all spirit energy. Guile and Charlie are such great fighters that they tapped into the same energy known in the east as Ki or Chi.

Sakura learned how to do a fireball just from seeing Ryu do it one single time.
Either she is the greatest fighting prodigy in the world or channeling chi into physical energy balls is something an average person can do with just a little bit of practice in the SF universe. Or she can't *actually* do it and the lore and gameplay diverge.

>>11843951
no guile just whips his arms fast enough to generate a sonic boom.

>>11843958
Sakura is a super genius even if she behaves that way, part of her canon explains she was able to imitate gouki techniques after 3 days of following him (tanned her skin just to look similar).
Is kinda similar to how she learned the hadouken she only saw ryu use it and was able to copy him (the only techniques that she learned from dan was the style of fighting from ryu and ken).
This is why she is considered the strongest on street fighter.

>>11843951
Charlie is weak and was killed by vega (played zero) guile was stronger but weaker then ryu.

>>11844084
Charlie is the master and Guile got his special moves training with him

>>11842603 (OP)
No but as a kid I always liked playing the characters that didn't have it because magic seemed like cheating.

>>11844084
Alpha 1 is literally non canon, Alpha 2 is but half the endings are non canon.

>>11844084
Vega (Dictator) is one of the strongest characters in the series, losing to him is no shame.

>>11844015
It even says in the manual it's "energy", not a literal sonic boom.>>11843770

Even Zangief can summon a bit of ki.

>>11842603 (OP)

the fighters just all agree that their projectiles actually exist, like kids on a playground declaring their special powers

>>11845385
>green hand
Is that really ki energy? It could be more of a psycho energy like Dictator's psycho crusher. But it seems that the green hand was out of character because it was removed from SFV onwards

>>11845707
its just chi, it's all chi. psycho power is the only alternate power source in sf and it's essentially just being able to harness pure evil/suffering/malevolence into energy, which doesn't really fit zangief

>>11846647
>evil doesn't really fit zangief
Zangief was with Bison in the movie, so maybe that's why he had evil powers (until SFV).

>>11846675
You... you anteater.

>>11843958
>Sakura learned how to do a fireball just from seeing Ryu do it one single time.
>Either she is the greatest fighting prodigy in the world or channeling chi into physical energy balls is something an average person can do with just a little bit of practice in the SF universe.
Gotta be the second one. Even that moron Dan can throw a ki ball a few inches away.

>>11844080
>This is why she is considered the strongest on street fighter.
literally no one has ever said this, ever

>>11846647
even psycho power is the same shit
it's all just different manifestations of chi

>>11845385
not since sfv. they massacred my boy

>>11845707
>But it seems that the green hand was out of character because it was removed from SFV onwards
Not retro but I imagine the reason greenhand was removed was because of the weakening of fireballs

Do you guys really need explanations in games?
I just don't care.

>>11848136
Not a need, just fun to think about

Sometimes I get curious like OP too
As another anon said I think it's usually just chi
I prefer western fantasy where supernatural powers usually come from magic, religion or super serums or whatever
Chi can be badass too when it just makes you stronger or throw chi blasts, but when it starts acting like magic I don't like the flavor that much
if you google chi vs magic there's many differences, even in Dragon Ball for example

>>11848114
>I just repeat shit i've heard because I don't actually play fighting games
fireballs themselves weren't weakened, retard, they were made weaker by giving everyone powerful anti-fireball tools

>>11842603 (OP)
I always thought his upside down kick was his most ridiculous move

>>11848636
it is, somehow too because it's a normal move it feels even more ridiculous than like liu kangs bycicle kick or terrys rising taco, because it's just so casual and quick

>>11848636
but people can actually do that in real life

>>11849825
Did anyone survive after pulling it off?

>>11848636
Yeah Guile has always been an odd one to me. His style is mostly down to earth and efficient to reflect that it's military-based, tight boxing stance with boxing punches, fast kickboxing style kicks, greco roman wrestling throws, all things that are practical and good for survival in a fight. But then he has weird flashy shit like this that would get you killed if you tried to pull it off regularly. It seems more like something a break dancer like Duck King or some crazy kung fu guy would use.

i only play 3d fighting games because these projectiles are gay

>>11851821
Just read their patterns and punish them

>>11851821
You only play 3d fighting games because you're a zoomer trying to relive millennial adolescence so you worship anything that came out from 1998-2005

Face it, you weren't alive playing Tekken and DoA with people in the 00s, you were in diapers, and since those scenes aren't active online today you STILL don't play those games because the only way you can say you actually know a fighting game is by having years of playing against other humans under your belt, not emulating an arcade run

>>11845381
a sonic boom is a burst of energy

>>11852021
I remember playing Tekken3 a lot on Playstation kiosks and the full game at least once with one of my late cousins, I miss him so much

>>11848636
It's an improvised move by the devs, that frame is literally the same 2nd crouch fierce kick but flipped to give him an extra move.

He's moving his arms so fast that a wave of air or sound comes out. But I think it's just more ki.
It's one of those very Asian things that they will just project onto other foreign non-asian fighters, just because it's essential to what they consider a martial artist. Stuff like shouting your movies, gravity defying stunts(through qigong) , and throwing blasts of energy. For Guile, it's literally what it says on the tin, but also in a way the very idea is very Japanese. American developers wouldn't do this unless it's some sci-fi stuff with lasers, something superhero-ish with energy blasts probably complete with kirby-dots, or straight up inspired by Japanese games or Chinese xianxia like Mortal Kombat was.
>>11842627
>he dedicated himself to his military training far more than anybody else. So much that he started throwing chi
I like to think this too.

>>11852186
Yeah with MK, it's mostly magic or tech based....you had some inexplicable shit like Johny Cages green energy, I think most fans just accepted it as existing as a game mechanic that didn't need to even be canon, but later they came up with the storyline that Cage was a descendant of Meditteranean fighters who could harness mysterious green energy...kinda weird

>>11851821
3D fighting games just bore me, the only ones who play fast are like Soul Calibur because of the variety of ranged attacks weapons provide, and shit like Rival Schools and MK4 that just have sidestepping, but still feel more like frantic 2D fighters anyway. My brain was just too used to hyper fighting to ever fully adjust to the slow paced Tekkens and etc

>>11846647
Bison is partly based on Yasunori Kato, who knows a lot of Japanese occultism and mysticism like summoning yokai, using shikigami, and all that. Psycho power is way more vague and super villainy than that so I'm not gonna say they're the same, but there's a connection in inspiration.

>>11848136
It's cool to think about. Just don't go Zelda timeline mode.

>>11846675
QUICK
CHANGE THE CHANNEL

>>11842603 (OP)
>characters that aren't said to have explicit chi powers
Who says they don't?

>>11842603 (OP)
Everyone has qi, dumbass.

>>11852348
Some people have qi, some people have ki, others have chi or gi and some have prana or mana.

>>11852406
>and some have prana or mana
I do think it's interesting how everyone just reinvents chi. Both that and superheroes who just shoot vague energy. In a way, psychics in sci-fi too.

>>11852406
Some people speak English, some people speak Japanese, others speak Chinese or Sumerian or Cherokee. All are language.

>>11852021
nice try, i'm 39 and i had a saturn in 1997 with lots of cool fighting games. the examples you provide suggest that YOU are the zoomer who grew up with ps2 shittery. Sad!

>>11852842
I'm 35 and nobody owned a Saturn in the entirety of the three cities I knew people in, so you must have been one rare gamer. Did you have a NeoGeo too? Insane!

Anyway, pretty hard to believe someone who witnessed the biggest popularity of fighting games during the 2D era is a "3D only" fucker, you must have just been a contrarian hipster cunt your whole life! Or, you're a zoomer into late 90s-00s nostalgia, because nobody gave a fuck about Tekken until Tekken 3

>>11852845
>nobody gave a fuck about Tekken until Tekken 3
let me top kek at this you dumb zoomer.
yes, people who were interested in video games sometimes had a saturn.
I exagerated when i said i only play 3d fighting games, but i always liked their realism and found the projectiles of 2d games anti-immersive.
there were also realistic 2d fighting games like Best of the best on 16 bits which is a fun game, but they were rare because no one cared about them.

>>11852845
>nobody owned a Saturn
Sega still sold almost 2 million units in the US though, complain all you want but stop with these 'I never saw one personally, so it didn't exist!' cope arguments

>>11852190
>they came up with the storyline that Cage was a descendant of Meditteranean fighters who could harness mysterious green energy...kinda weird
Reminds me of a manga about Roman boxers and one guy just throws out there that he learned some of his moves from a guy who learned it from a guy who learned it from another guy who learned it from a mysterious place called china

>>11852290
do you know what the word explicit means

>>11848136
Every Capcom fighter, hell every fighting game character, is based on something else, it's interesting. It's part of the martial arts autism

>>11842656
I never understood how everyone knew ki was a thing like 12 or so years earlier, and then just EVERYONE forgot. Like Mr. Satan was alive when Goku beat Piccolo Jr.

>>11843905
>I was also convinced similarly that double jumping was something feasibly possible if you had enough strength in your legs and you jumped then pushed down with your legs in the air it would create a current that would hit the ground and push you higher.
Funnily that's literally the way double jumping is explained to work in One Piece, except the people who can do that can do it up to 6 times.

>>11846647
>psycho power is the only alternate power source in sf
No there's like 5 other sources.

>>11851817
SFII V is not a good anime, but I like that Guile just completely WRECKS teen Ryu with a Flash Kick because this is before Ryu has done any real training so an actual special move is basically a 1HKO to him.

>>11852190
Honestly I like the way Johnny Cage was written. This actor who seems so fucking full of himself that he tattooed his own name on his chest. Then he gets in the ring....and he's actually really, REALLY fucking strong. They never needed a retcon, he's just inexplicably strong.

>>11845379
Especially since in the Alpha games it was his original pure body and not a clone body so it was way stronger.

>>11852190
>but later they came up with the storyline that Cage was a descendant of Meditteranean fighters who could harness mysterious green energy...kinda weird
Wasn't that the result of the alternate timeline in MK9 that Raiden's interference created, and before that he had energy powers in the first game basically to say "I don't need special effects to do my stunts"?

>>11843905
Double jumping is definitely some kind of qigong thing

>>11844080
>This is why she is considered the strongest on street fighter.
I've been saying this for decades

>>11842821
All of that is right on the money. People forget the mystical aspect of martial arts, it's why even ninjas can do the things they do I bet. But
>You see in Dragon Ball how this is harnessed for chi blasts, which then were the direct inspiration for Street Fighter's projectiles. Ryu adn Ken even make the same poses as the Kamehameha .
I don't know about this. The guy who designed the kamehameha always mentions the wave motion gun in Yamato, which I think he means the specific look of it. People then think this is where energy blasts come from, because I bet he assumed everyone knew what ki blasts were.
And I bet Dragon Ball took it from some Hong Kong movie somewhere, since Toriyama loved those.

>>11854640
Nope, the Johnny Cage energy being from some ancient warrior lineage IIRC was first said in his Deadly Alliance ending

I taught him