I do a fair bit of hardware collecting, and I’m a good buyer - I only ask that items be represented accurately.

But literally like half the time I’ll buy a “brand new, I fucking swear, never touched” retro console, only to get it and the fucking thing has clearly been opened and has grime around the buttons and scratches galore.

God help you for those premium priced items that are supposedly “like new”. You’ll be lucky to get something even in fair condition at all. It’s gonna stink like BO and be heavily used.

Why are sellers like this? Just be honest in your descriptions damnit.

And this doesn’t even get into the fucking literal scammers that resell used games as “brand new, just no wrap”.

I’m selling a brand new SEGA Genesis model 2 right now actually, I’m the gold standard of eBay sellers, if you saw my item and description you’d be blown the FUCK away lol.

>>11843774 (OP)
I bought a "brand new Bluray" off eBay the other day and received a heavily used copy with a loose piece of shrink wrap sitting on top of it. When I tried to make a return, the seller went on a long rant about reaching out to my and his local police departments because of her though my there had been package tampering. When I told him eBay policy clearly states that is his problem and he has to give me a refund and sought it out himself, he told me I should expect to get a call from my local fraud department. I called his bluff and contacted eBay, got my full money back.

Buying items, especially used ones on eBay is risky. Make sure you get your money back for it, and if you ever find a seller that is honest and cares make sure to save them and give them good feedback. I always make sure I'm upfront about what I sell and answer any questions they ask.

>>11843793
>>11843784


You sound like good sellers; thanks for what you do or else there wouldn’t even be an eBay. And yeah, sellers need to know they assume all the risk. I’m pretty fair, and I’ve literally never left negative feedback, even for clear inaccurate descriptions- as long as the seller promptly refunds and doesn’t act hostile. I figure live and let live. And I’ve bought a number of items that lived up to their descriptions and pictures and wow - that’s a good feeling. Paying a fair price for an item you are now gonna treasure.

But speaking of dvds and used games, I went to go check on some used PS2 games and wow - now that’s a shit pile. There are so many “brand new, like new” PS2 games that aren’t even in a fucking PS2 dvd case - they’re in a movie one. Actually when there are small scratches and imperfections in the PS2 case I like that because it signals that this might be a really authentic product since they didn’t even try to replace the case.

As far as I know the scammers have no way of reliably faking the PS2 logo on the inner disc, but who knows. (You can tell that PS2 collecting is my next great frontier)

>>11843774 (OP)
Maybe try not being an EOP. This never happens with Japanese sellers.

So many scummy sellers there. I am so fucking sick of filtering out "For parts only" listings only to see an item listed as "Broken - for parts" in it's name but put under the "Used" category, or even actual parts and empty "box only" listings that clutter your results all also in the used or even new category.

Also that AI description bullshit, I refuse to buy from sellers who use that crap. It explains jack shit about the condition of the item and just tries to talk about it like scummy car salesman from the 50s would have tried to pitch something.

>>11843872
I have gotten a few items from J-Pan that ended up damaged or not working, despite claims it did, but to their credit and honibru culture, I dont think I ever had an issue with them not correcting the issue via a refund of some sort. Hell, one of them just let me keep a jap Saturn for free because they sent me a normal one instead of the special edition one I ordered.

>>11843774 (OP)
It can be a real nightmare buying anything on ebay listed as new. With what I sell I always go for the "open box" or "used" condition even though I'm doing detailed restorations. I read my recent reviews after I saw this thread and it feels amazing seeing people appreciate my work. I'm also very wordy and deliberate in my descriptions and take all kinds of pictures. Feels good to have people say all this about my stuff.

Then as a seller you've always got people asking for pics of you disassembling stuff with no guarantee of purchase or asking 50% off because it "could" be fake.
Scammers ruin it for everyone.

>>11843983
>I'm also very wordy and deliberate in my descriptions and take all kinds of pictures.

I love this stuff. I hardly ever see people get really serious like that about writing item descriptions and it's always great when it happens.

>>11844030
Huh, I always just figure that if an item listing claims the item is "authentic" and I see no red flags, then I can safely enough buy it and just disassemble it myself if I care to, and then raise the issue with eBay if the "authentic" item has turned out not to be authentic. If that's true then those people are just being jerks I guess, but maybe it's not? I've never actually disputed a sale so I don't really know how it works.

i've only ever been really screwed by facebook sellers, my ebay buying experiences have always been decent to really good, luckily. when i sell i definitely go out of my way to provide accurate descriptions of the product. money is obviously the biggest motivator, but i also appreciate giving someone a good experience for a fair price.

>>11843983
Alright homie, I might be a customer. Drop a google search term where I can find restored controllers like this. I just bought a brand new PS2 but the controller ribbon seems to be dead. 25 year old electronics are always a gamble

>American item listed as "Good Condition"
>Manual is frayed and stained
>Disc covered in scratches
>Kid's name written in sharpie on cartridge

>Japanese item listed as "Acceptable Condition"
>Completely immaculate CIB and comes with an origami crane and a hand written note saying they hope you enjoy the game.

>>11844063
Yeah same. When someone is specific about micro damage of the item and condition it gives me a feel-good. That’s something only authentic sellers do

>>11843774 (OP)
I hate the lazy AI descriptions. Generic info which adds nothing. All you need to do is write a few words like "tested and working" or "doesn't turn on".

I've found eBay sellers to mostly be decent, as in like 99% of them are fine. Every once in a while you get a complete dickhead who thinks they can lie and do whatever they want and it won't come back to them. Thank god for buyer protection. Same with buyers, although I would guess shitty buyers are more common, and sellers are less protected.

Actually eBay has made me realise that most people are actually decent human beings, but the shitty ones really stand out.

>>11844256
Restored scph 10010

I haven't sold or shipped anything since I sold something for $300 and USPS literally ran it over and crushed it into a million tiny bits during shipping.
It wasn't crushed by boxes or weight while in a truck, it was legitimately run over by a vehicle as it was FLATTENED and broken into tiny bits.

>>11844658
I double wrapped it in their padded envelopes btw and it was a normal size disc game. I was told by the buyer and USPS that I should've shopped it in a box instead if it was "fragile."

Last year I bought something, it got lost in the mail, and the seller basically said not my problem go fuck yourself.

I won a copy of Tekken something or other and the guy didn’t want to sell it since no one else bid… so he went to the fucking library after I said I’d leave negative feedback, checked the game out or stole it and the case was locked and he shipped it. Literally had to brake the case open and it was a fucked up copy clearly not what was in his pics. Real bastard. Hope he gets banned from that library.

80% of the thread reads as ChatGPT-made.

Has activity cratered so much they need to fill the site with bot posts to give the illusion of activity?

>>11844757
No, it's just this guy's new hobby. He did it with this thread a week ago: https://desuarchive.org/vr/thread/11820785

He's also doing it here, too: >>11841834

Same iPhone file name scheme. Same cadence in the OP. Same uncharacteristically long and ass-patty replies. Very bizarre behavior.

>>11844762
what causes this? I think we used to hang weirdos like that or kick them in the wild to get eaten by beasts.

>>11843894
>AI description bullshit
It baffles me why companies keep trying to push AI in every fucking thing. Ebay descriptions are the absolute last place you'd want AI output. As you say, you're trying to describe the specific item you're selling, not generic descriptions of the game's genre and reputation, or going off on some tangent about the classic nature of old games or basking in warm feelings of nostalgia or whatever the fuck. Whenever I see an AI description, I assume I'm dealing with a brainlet who is going to do a shitty packaging job.

>>11844757
>80% of the thread reads as ChatGPT-made.
No it doesn't. Take your meds

>>11844765
>what causes this?
Given his inability to read the room and his tendency towards meltdowns that last for several days, I'd say autism is likely.

>>11844762
This fag is so ass mad that anyone spends any money at all. He literally points you to where he got his stuff on eBay in the thread you linked at worst he’s advertising something anons on this board have asked for many times over in that one thread. You must be shitting bricks he might be the same anon who claims he spent money on some Nintendo powers, u schizo.

>>11844837
Oh ur def same fagging or two of you are so mentally ill that someone would dare spend money. Are u mad we ignored ur attempt to shit up the pc gaming thread you had to come in here and comment? The only one being bizarre is u, showing up in every thread claiming mental illness for anyone who claims to have spent any money on retro when “it’s all free don’t spend money don’t own anything!!”

>>11844658
I was reading once about whether you could send small metal objects like coins or keys (I needed to mail a key to my landlord) in envelopes and everybody seemed to agree that although it CAN work, there's a chance that the inflexible bit of your envelope will get stuck between rollers or something in the automatic sorting machines USPS uses and so everything will fall to pieces. Obviously your doubly padded envelope was different from the flat paper envelope I wanted to use, but maybe something vaguely like that happened, rather than a truck running over it? (By the way I agree with your apparent belief that they should be able to handle an item like that without damaging it. I'm just speculating about the details of what happened.)

>>11845234
>>11845246
Watching you have a melty over being called out sounds more entertaining than watching you samefag about shipping logistics of all things. Here's your (You).

>>11845407
Ur the schizo who shits up threads and thinks everything is chatgtp or mental illness if someone dares purchase something. You literally must be on here 18 hours a day just seething waiting for someone to mention they paid for something lol

>>11845576
I accused you of being autistic, not of using an LLM.