Thread 11845401

This game is brutal

if you have one hand

the hammer throwing koopas are fucking bs

Hard compared to modern games, easy compared to other NES games

This has to be the only game in existence where everyone skips 90% of it and claim they beat it with a straight face.

>>11845501
Speedrunners do that with every game, actually.

>>11845425
Not really, easier than stuff like GnG or Battletoads, but still a really tough game. Harder than stuff like Contra or Castlevania or Ninja Gaiden or Mega Man

>>11845528
No it isn't, what the fuck are you talking about? Did you download a Mario 2 JP rom by mistake? Are you playing with 800ms of latency?

Is it though? Whenever I played smb1 warpless I would only ever have trouble with the last 3 worlds

It's kinda hard at first without warps, but not too bad. Just less room for error because it doesn't throw lives at you the way later Mario games do. Once you learn the game though it's really fun to run through fast, you can fly through stages.

>>11845528
>Not really, easier than stuff like GnG or Battletoads, but still a really tough game. Harder than stuff like Contra or Castlevania or Ninja Gaiden or Mega Man
Well I can't beat any of those games mention or SMB.

>>11845401 (OP)
I know people say this all the time but I literally beat this w no warps when I was like 12. It’s amazing what only having an nes and unlimited free time w 3 games how far you can get it even as a kid when ur not drowning in: countless shitty tv shows, porn, paralysis from to many game choices, YouTube, etc

>>11845594
just practice, man. git gud. buckle down for once in your life and obtain a fucking skill.

I can't get past 6-4. Am I a shitter?

>>11845530
Not him, I missed out on NES games (started gaming with 4th gen), but had an easier time playing through the Mega Man titles than SMB. Not that the latter was super difficult, just moreso by comparison.

>>11845635
I obtained the skill of beating SMB. Now how do I obtain a family?

>>11845401 (OP)
It's just cheap because of the physics are weird, once you get used to it it's not bad.

>>11845718
why do you need a family? you have SMB.

>>11845735
To increase white numbers over the jews.

>>11845409
this plus the "puzzles" in the castles are annoying

>>11845520
He said people

>>11845530
No, I'm talking about original hardware. Even with continue code, SMB is pretty damn tough. None of those four series are particularly hard.

I would put SMB and Zelda 1 in similar difficulty levels.

>>11845715
Do you remember why?
Mega Man is less tough about continues, and the puzzles/weaknesses can be somewhat solved logically rather than needing brute force. It also gives you somewhat more control over movement, and timing is a bigger focus than managing speed. If those things play more to your strengths I could sort of see it. Other than that, I recall Mega Man having tougher equivalent challenges for platforming, asshole enemy placement, bosses, and overall coordination needed. Mario just doesn't have equivalent challenges to Yellow Devil or Wily other than maybe hammers, and fire is basically everything's weakness.

>>11845850
Can't remember, it's been over a decade or so. I think your point about the movement might be correct. I'll have to play through again sometime and see what I notice.

>>11845850
Mega Man is way, way easier in terms of platforming and combat, and is way more forgiving. Even with continue code, I would still say Mario is harder, and without, it's no contest. The bosses are already pretty simple, and using weaknesses makes them a complete pushover. There are like one or two tricky sections with platforming, but nothing even remotely close to worlds 7 and 8 in SMB.

Yellow Devil is tricky, but he has a very predictable pattern that once you know it, you can never fail, or alternatively, you can use the very common glitch to completely trivialize him.

>>11845635
>It says here on your CV you can beat 40 year old video games the general public have never heard of, we've been looking for someone like you, you got the job

>>11845401 (OP)
Master SMB2J and it will feel like a tutoria

>>11845401 (OP)
Literally babbies first vidya

>>11846132
>ermagerd everything has to be a joob
>if you aren't slaving away foe some cocstain you fukt up
>get a jooooooooob

>>11846132
why would you need a job? you have SMB.

>>11845501

The game is actually harder using warps. You don't get any of the potential 1-ups that you could get when going through the whole game, making world 8 harder.

>>11845528

Retard

>>11848117
what's retarded about that? I've beat all those games and that's a fair assessment of their difficulty.

>>11845735
Increasing numbers over the jews.

>>11845401 (OP)
Just play the 7800 port like a true American

>>11845401 (OP)
Try running around with the b button. It feels wrong but do it. Now you will be actually playing the game. Took me forever to play it that way, I never grew up with the game though.

>>11846132
eat shit loser

>>11845401 (OP)
Not that hard without warps, takes practice and retries, and ultimately a primer in getting good at video games. That’s why it should be lauded, not just for historicity.

>>11850376
It is blood boiling to watch someone not run.

>>11846132
Skills in demand in a post-AI world:
- idea guys
- people who can teach robots how to play video games and have fun
- roleplayers

Obsolete:
-cooders
Go join the army

>>11845528
>Ninja Gaiden is easier than Mario
genuinely what the fuck are you

>>11854053
Nta but a retard

>>11853582
>people who teach robots
that's called coding fyijicydk

>>11854053
I'm talking about the 2D Ninja Gaiden games, not the 3D ones on MNM. Ninja Gaiden is a total pushover until the very last stage, and the game gives you infinite continues. And even the final bosses aren't difficult if you use magic.

I finally beat it bros

>>11845401 (OP)
Hold a + start to not lose world progress. Don't use warp pipes. Try lost levels after you beat it. Skip ng+ on smb but you can try grinding for bonus worlds in lost levels if you actually get into it

>>11854456
SMB has continues, pretty sure they are infinite.

>>11854737
Only if you use the continue code. You also get sent all the way back to the beginning of the world, not just the stage.

Why are you even discussing difficulty if you don't remember basic core mechanics of the game?

>>11845401 (OP)
play with savestates/rewind and you can clear it in a single session so you can have played it and then you can get started on having played other games ;)

Is there a strategy for these guys or bowser that works 100% of the time? Even if I run close and keep patient sometimes the momentum is just too slow to run past them. Great game though super fun. I like that they give you infinite tries at 7-1 with that 1up. It’s not that punishing, but it’s pretty challenging. If you can hold Super Mario power up until bowser it feels awesome, but usually I lose it on a hammer bro haha

>>11845409
Get good.

>>11845528
It's not really that bad at all with warps, the peak of Ninja Gaiden is definitely way harder than anything here, and the yellow giant guys in Mega Man as well that ended up filtering me. Just playing the game regularly will make getting warpless after not that bad either.

>>11845401 (OP)
I have it on snes, the difficulty does increase quite a bit towards the end for sure.

>>11854987
Using fire, lol. There's the powerup blocks earlier in the stage

>>11845401 (OP)
It's not that hard. Every level is short and easily memorized.

>>11854987
Faith. Either never stop, or get as close as possible.

>>11845401 (OP)
NES is brutal.

Yeah, for all the shit "bing bing" shitposting Mario gets, most modern "gamers" couldn't get past 1-3 if they honestly tried.

>>11845401 (OP)
Confession: I've never beaten the first super mario bros game. I think I've gotten as far as stage 6 on deluxe on the gbc with multiple continues but never completed it.

>>11845409
You gotta anticipate them being there and just use p speed to rush through that area before they start their barrage. Once they get started its much harder. Memorizing the level is the most important thing so just keep trying

>>11854919
Dude, SMB is way easier than Ninja Gaiden. NG requires some heavy discipline to get through it without cheese.

>>11854987
Run/jump past them quickly or succumb to their rain if terror.

>>11845401 (OP)
Could never beat it without using warp and/or with only 1 continue

>>11845401 (OP)
Protips:
>Don't run all the time, many obstacles are designed for precision jumping and it's a lot more difficult if you're holding B all the time and aren't an autist or speedrunner who's beaten the game millions of times
>Learn the warp spots and 1-up tricks, they help tremendously for practicing some of the trickier levels without having to start a new run after too many fuckups, memorizing the early level and world layouts make them a breeze to get through
>Don't worry that much about chasing power ups, focus on moving forward and avoiding enemies and traps even if you're stuck as manlet Mario without a fire flower for extended periods of time

>>11845401 (OP)
The dark souls of platformers.

>>11858646
Oh one more thing:

>Some versions of the game will allow you to continue at the beginning of your current world instead of having to go all the way back to 1-1 by holding a or a and b while pressing start at the title screen after a game over

>>11855001
>Every level is short
8-1

>>11845401 (OP)
8-3 is probably one of the hardest levels in video game history.

>>11861057
Play more games

Zoomer plays babby's first retro game, says it's the Dark Souls of retro games, refuses to play another retro game for what's left of his life, many such cases!

>>11861084
>guy who gets all his humor and jargon from Weird Left Twitter

>>11845401 (OP)
>Action Series
So that's why Japanese people call platformers "action" games.

>>11845401 (OP)
fire flower and warp pipes ruined balance forever. sucks man

>>11845409
Hardest part of the game by far is the last hammer bro. If you lost your fire flower you’re basically fucked.

>>11856802
smb1 isn't hard it's just very sparing with lives if you don't know the secret spots or exploits. 3 misses and restart the game would make any platformer difficult.

>>11865149
Git gud, scrub.

>>11865179
>exploits
The infinite 1up trick is the dumbest advice for beating Super Mario Bros because it's harder than just beating the game. Just use the continue code.
And it is a gay cheat because by this logic you can beat Contra 3 "legit" easily by grinding 1ups in multiple spots.