Was the big 2023 leak the last information discovered? I am autistically obcessed with this game and would like to know if any new information was found

>>11849881 (OP)
Maybe you could start the conversation with the information of what the title is

>>11849894
>WAAAAHHHHH SPOONFEED ME
It's Shadow of the Colossus.

>>11849894
fuck, forgot to write the subject
It's Shadow of the colossus, I'm talking about the pre-release versions of the game

>>11849909
There is literally nothing to go off, not even a file name, of if you do not recognize the screenshot. Maybe I actually wanted to help OP?
>>11849912
Oh, neat. Wish you luck in case there's anything out there more recent than that interview a while ago.

>>11849881 (OP)
What the fuck is this?

>>11849964
Cut spider colossus

>>11850030
Why cut?

>>11850032
They couldn't get it playing well and wanted to ship the game.

These games have no gameplay and just feel like tech demos.

>>11850143
I agree SotC has little substance but it was awesome when I was 16

>>11850037
>They couldn't get it playing well and wanted to ship the game.
Pretty sad for a professional studio desu. It doesn't take more than a couple days to rework an enemies script

>>11850037
A tragedy of capitalism. What could've been...

I am once again asking what is the best way to play this game in 2025

>>11850143
tech demos are awesome

>11850161
SotC had so much going on as it is, to integrate it well with its elaborate mechanics and physics took a lot of work and fine tuning. Making what worked better was the right move.

>>11850193
PS2, CRT

>>11850032
he's jewish. that's why they dont eat seafood

>>11850657
Wrong.
>>11850193
PS3, CRT. The PS3 version supports 4:3 and runs at a stable framerate.

what did they mean by this

>>11850030
i can already see why it was cut
imagine trying to climb those legs and not falling off like a thousand times

>>11850691
as opposed to every other climb-focused colossus?

>>11850692
yea it looks much much much worse
especially given how arachnids tend to move irl, and how thin the actual legs are
itd be a fucking mess

Climbing the monsters was cool but the gay story and the niggas being non hostile is wack
>muh enviroment
whatever

>>11850143
Nah, I dig it. All vidya is gameplay plus sound and visual art - even in so called 'pure arcade' games. Some major on one side or the other, the overall experience is how they both come together.

SotC's atmosphere and story keeps you chasing the gameplay experience, which is a pathfinding and resource balancing game. If you don't like the atmosphere or prefer more 'tell me, don't show me' stories - fair enough.

>>11850037
I think the ones they chose were good - it is just a shame the world was quite as empty as it was. It also feels like there could have been an expansion disc very easily (even on PS2), given the success of the game.

https://teamico.fandom.com/wiki/Unused_Colossi for the wider list

>>11850663
Not to say that the low FPS on PS2 was intentional, but I like how it makes the bosses feel heavier. Film makers actually intentionally lower the FPS during action sequences to make each movement more striking

>>11850734

I've never played the PS3 version - honestly the experience of framerate drop was so much a part of the experience for me that I struggle to think how it would play without it.

>>11850143
how can you say that when it's even got a time attack mode

>>11850687
It was supposed to connect the phoenix (seen here: >>11850037) and and early turtle arenas, before pratically the entire eastern part of the map was cut
I can see why it wasn't deleted, imagine taking the time to craft such a huge structure and having to erase it because you can't get a couple extra months of dev time

>>11850731
I think having 3 minotaur-type colossi was really detrimental to the game, but I understand they were only added because they couldn't get the more unique ones, like spider and worm, to work properly, so they copy-pasted thee first colossus so it wouldnt be so empty

>>11850037
So just like the rest of the game, then.

>>11850701
You were meant to hang on agro and attack the legs as you pass thru them, toppling the colossus so you could attack its head.

With all the autistic remakes and fangames people make, sad that no one has ever tried to recreate the cut colossi

>>11850143
If it made it to retail, it's not a tech demo.

>>11850161
>What are workloads, deadlines, staff resilience etc.

>>11849881 (OP)
The leak was the final nail in the coffin for this game’s reputation. The secret backstory is just dumb and terrible and now we know the full extent of what an unfinished, cut-down mess this game actually is.

>>11851146
Qrd on said leak? Was this very recent?

>>11851206
Check these threads:
https://arch.b4k.dev/v/thread/569111651/#569127438

https://arch.b4k.dev/v/thread/569187638/

This is the alleged lore leak: https://pastebin.com/kjA3dmPW

>>11851146
You obtuseness isn't convincing.

>>11851245
Nothing obtuse about the fact that the game's dumb lore relies on there being 24 colossi.

>>11849894
>>11849919
>>11849964
Can we start bullying people who broadcast that they don't know that reverse image search exists/is built into the website?
I've recently realized that way more of you are like 2022er youtube tourists than I previously thought, but it's our fault for not educating the immigrants, ultimately

>>11851260
When you start a topic you shouldn't expect people to reverse image search to know what the topic is about you faggot.

>>11851206
>There used to be lots of colossi in the world, the colossi were encountered by a group of nomads and worshiped as gods
>Dormin used to be a group of high-ranking nomads known as "The Dormin" who decided to hunt down the colossi instead of worshiping them and created the Shrine of Worship from the corpses of slain colossi, in doing so this group merged together and became a deity for some reason, war broke out between the colossi worshipers and those who served The Dormin, The Dormin loses and gets sealed away
>there are supposed to be 24 colossi, had to be cut down to 16 due to development restraints
>the colossi were meant to be roaming around the game world, had to be restricted to arenas and fought one by one due to hardware restraints
>the world probably would have been less empty in general, but again, hardware restraints

>>11851260
Ive been on the site on and off since before it messed with football. That doesn't mean I keep up with every feature and extension spergs use to call people tourists, faggot. I apologize for trying to help OP.

>>11851260
How about we bully fags like you instead?

Out of all the cut colossi monkey, spider and worm seems straught up something that came out of my nightmares.
Especially the worm colossi, look it up is just horror.
Also reminder that there is team of fans recreating the 8 cut colossi, it is a working progress but you can look it up in youtube.

>>11850032
American.

>>11852081
monkey is goofy af, look at those nipples

>>11852198
Acording to some of the leaks the size of monkey was gigantic even for a colossi, that moving aroynd looks uncanny AF, worm is still the worst one, they are nightmare fuel but i want to see them in motion.

>>11850759
The time attack mode is absolutely fucking terrible, though. Some of the target times in hard mode are just completely unreasonable, especially #3 which is borderline impossible unless you do everything more or less perfectly through the entire run specifically manipulate the colossus AI at certain points in a way that's not really congruous with the normal gameplay, and also just get lucky.

They're all technically possible, sure, but it's just frustrating as hell because the colossi hav too much randomness in their patterns to consistently reproduce perfect runs down to the second. It's one of the japanese things where you're supposed to beat your head against the same wall until you randomly get lucky one time and the completely arbitrary thing you need happens the way it needs to. I refuse to believe even the devs could beat #3 with any consistency. It takes all the fun out of the game and turns into a mad scramble against an unforgiving RNG. FUCK those time trials. I only did it once on PS2 and I won't ever try again

>>11850663
The PS3 version is harder due to a bug where you stagger easier and more often from the Colossi's movements. This drains your stamina quicker

>>11852486
It's supposed to be harder? I had an easier time doing all the time attacks in the PS3 version than I did on the PS2 version.

>>11852486
It's not a bug, it's due to the higher framerate. The same thing happens on PS2 emulation since there's no timing accuracy yet. The game runs too smoothly. Bluepoint had to re-work the physics to match higher framerate for the remake. Only way to experience the original PS2 version is on real hardware at the moment.

>>11849909
>SPOONFEED ME
Yes retard, posts should be communicate information effectively.

>>11852364
>in a way that's not really congruous with the normal gameplay
>gameplay
That was all we needed to hear, blog-kun.

>>11850880
Good point - I suppose given we now know some of the other options on the table, I would have liked more epic sized ones. It was kind of cool having the minotaur-y type ones that used more of the environment as well (I know they all did to some extent). I don't think I felt let down by them being in the game.

>>11852198
Were you supposed to shoot it in it's gigantic wobbling monkey tits as part of the takedown strategy (rather than just for fun - which we all would have done anyway)?

>>11852892
You were suppossed to shoot it somewhere, ww don't have much info because it was cut very early into development, it wasnt even put on the game map

>>11849894
How new are you?

It's funny how triggered Nintendo babies get at Shadow of the Colossus. There was a time there where people were saying it was better than Zelda. And Breath of the Wild kinda copied its climbing mechanic

>>11849881 (OP)
I also was mad obssessed with secrets in this game. Hopefully someday some autist will mod all that shit in

>>11849909
Dumb faggot

>>11853495
Nobody who actually played Zelda thought Shadow of the Empty World Boss Rush was better than Zelda.

>>11853495
Rent free

>>11853676
Yeah, Zelda fans would NEVER play a game with a big empty overworld.

>>11852364
Their patterns are predictable, you gotta practice and learn them. Watch time attack runs and look how the use jumps and integrate agro, how they manipulate behavior, it's all reproducible classic game design logic and you can master it.

>>11853495
>Shadow of the Colossus invented climbing
Why are Sony fans like this?

>>11853913
There's way more stuff to do in Zelda's overworlds compared to Shadow of the Colossus where there's absolutely nothing. SotC is literally an unfinished game.

>>11853969
>There's way more stuff to do in Zelda's overworlds
Nothing worth doing in any of the zeldas I played. I stopped after Wind Waker though.

>>11853973
You didn't find the stuff worth doing, but it still exists for people who did find it worth doing. Shadow of the Colossus has nothing either way. There was supposed to be more in the game world according to leaks, but they released an unfinished game at full price anyway.

>>11853975
Shadow of the Colossus has good boss fights to do in the overworld. What did you find to be the most enjoyable thing to do in Ocarina of Time or Majora's Mask? I did everything in those games as a kid and I genuinely can't remember anything good in either overworld. Or are you talking about the earlier games?

>>11853981
I enjoyed the sidequests in both Ocarina of Time and especially in Majora's Mask. For its time, the game worlds felt very alive. SotC is barren between the boss fights. If Zelda games had literally nothing to do between the boss fights, and I mean literally nothing, not there's things to do but they personally don't appeal to you, then you'd have a comparable situation.

>>11853981
>Shadow of the Colossus has good boss fights to do in the overworld.
The boss fights are restricted to closed-off arenas. The game was supposed to have the colossi roaming the overworld, but they couldn't make it work. So, really, the overworld is just a large empty space to pad out gameplay as you ride between the bosses.

>>11853913
If a Zelda game released in the same state as SotC did, you'd never hear the end about how shit it is and how tendies have no standards

>>11854830
I mean I said it in the first place because a big empty overworld's a pretty common complaint about ocarina of time.

>>11854835
OoT at the very least has things like grottoes, big poes, and skulltulas in the overworld, SotC has nothing. Plus you unlock fast traveling in that game while SotC forces you through the tedium of traveling from boss arena to boss arena.

>>11855007
I didn't find it tedious. SotC also has that lizard and fruit crap going on if you're that kind of person though.

>>11853981
>Shadow of the Colossus has good boss fights
A fight actually requires that the player can lose. There are no fights in SotC because it's impossible to die in the game.

>>11855350
Uh oh this dumb nigger is pretending he's played the game

>>11849894
Retard

>it's another 30 year old console warring manchildren episode