Chaos in Sonic Adventure 1 is such a cool villain. I love how he's this weird fucking slob monster that's constantly changing and growing throughout the story, even as you consistently beat him, until he's finally this gigantic kaiju water elemental that's able to level an entire city. Anyone else love the C-man?

>>11852137 (OP)
what's the canon reason he never showed up again, did he died? was he a ghost?

>>11852139
He's in Sonic Battle and Sonic Forces, but doesn't really impact the story of either game.

>>11852137 (OP)
He's a cool design before he becomes a kaiju to me, I don't like kaijus in Sonic, it's dumb. This was the extent of "giant monster in sonic" I can deal with because it's still a robot and Sonic should always be about killing robots

>>11852139
Basically. He still exists in spirit form and can reappear from time to time, same as Tikal. Both showed up as recently as that Frontiers Knuckles short.

>>11852157
>I don't like kaijus in Sonic, it's dumb.
I generally agree, but I think Perfect Chaos was the one time it worked, because it was so different from everything that had been in a Sonic game up to that point that it was exciting. The entire game builds up to it, and by the time you actually get to to fight him, it's really cool.

Everything including and beyond the Biolizard has been stupid, though.

>>11852184
There is one other instance I thought was pretty good, but it's not /vr/ appropriate.

>>11852296
Well you might as well say it, anon, we're in the thread now.

>>11852307
Dark Gaia

>>11852137 (OP)
I'm just wondering when he's gonna show up in the movies. Seems like they're going with the Sonic CD time travel stuff for the next one, so probably not until after that.

>>11852157
>>11852184
Yeah I liked him in Adventure for the same reason, he stood out as something different at a time when Sonic Adventure was trying a lot of different things. The game still had lots of robots too, so it felt like it was another of Robotnik's schemes and we'd go back to Sonic vs Robotnik afterwards.
I don't like that it became something of a trope since then that it was always 'Robotnik accidentally unleashes some monster/magic which is the REAL enemy' after that.

>>11852382
Could work well in a movie format, although I wonder how well they could do the water effects with CGI.

It definitely seems like part of the reason they went with Chaos for SA is that they wanted to flex the Dreamcast's power with a transforming, transparent monster.

>>11852184
actually you made me wonder how a chaos zero powered robot could've looked like. Eggman is known for capturing animals and using them as energy source.

>>11852139
This guy got him.

>>11852137 (OP)
>>11852139
Sonic Adventure?

KINO

It's just a shame the game he's in is garbage.
Maybe he should go back to the Final Fantasy game he was cut from

>>11852469
Probably similar to the Artificial Chaos robots in SA2.

Chaos was made to take advantage of the Dreamcast, right?
What about when Sonic Adventure was going to be on Saturn?
And they STILL didn't get Perfect Chaos the way they intended.

>>11852137 (OP)
>>11852141
I have a suspicion him and Gamma in Battle had a cut story mode originally, but somehow didn't make it to the final game, either due to time constraints or space.

>>11853814
Well anon, Gamma and Chaos were planned for Sonic Heroes in early production, so it makes sense that them being in Sonic Battle is a remnant of that.

Love his design from Battle. That was a good game.

>>11852137 (OP)
>until he's finally this gigantic kaiju
Jumping the shark.

>>11853730
>What about when Sonic Adventure was going to be on Saturn?
Would have probably just been the Egg Carrier and Final Egg.

>>11852184
It's also cool because a very similar design was originally the final boss of Sonic 3.

>>11853730
Would've been like panzer dragoon saga visuals, but probably end up being cool AF. Though, by the time adventure came out, that type of early 90s theme was a dying fad and everyone was looking towards the 2000s. Adventures was one of the first moves from weird "it's the 90s" design philosophy to pure beaches with calming colors. Not that the 90s didn't have a beach theme, it was just mixed in with the other weird stuff people were trying in the 90s.

>>11853846
huh, how about that.
but has anyone ever found anything similar in the files of Battle?

>>11852184
D'OW MY GAWD

>>11852370
DG isn’t that bad of a villain, but I do think he suffers from the “random kaiju out of nowhere” syndrome that most 3D Sonic bosses do. You hear a lot about him throughout the game, but you don’t even see him until right at the end. He also has a pretty goofy design for a Sonic villain.

>>11852137 (OP)
I hated the way they demystified him in Frontiers. Making him an alien with a whole associated species, each of which have their own human personalities completely took away from the character’s uniqueness.

>>11852184
>biollante, but water

>>11857310
Ah, you missed it...
This is actually marrying the old character profiles that call Chaos a mutated Chao. (Presumably, this is because in the JP DC release, he actually made a Chao screech in that scene where he appears in front of the echidnas advancing on the Master Emerald - this was removed in later versions.)
What Frontiers adds is that the Chao are a result of the ancient aliens assimilating into the local wildlife, better explaining Chaos' mutation - he resembles the ancestors of the Chao. Oh, and the Chaos Emeralds were originally from another planet, attracted to the Earth's Master Emerald.

>>11852424
https://youtu.be/2A0Cx7lCT6E?si=hHWLOxQXgpTMl0os

>>11858428
painfully unfunny, gross, and weird. Whoever drew that needs to quit drawing ugly disgusting garbage

>>11857310
You know who to blame for this.

>>11859673
He deserves a lot of flack, but making the aliens into more of a recognizeable Sonic element isn't one of them. It at least got some bit of satisfaction out of the Japanese idea that Chaos is a mutated Chao.

>>11857310
I actually liked how they went back and explored the lore in SA, it's a shame it took them 20 years.

>>11859673
He doesn't actually write the story, he just writes the dialogue, basically the 'dub'