Gotta choose just one, /vr/. What's the best Sonic Advance game and what's the worst?

Sonic Battle is better than any of these games.

>>11858607
That's not one of the choices you JEET.

>>11858598 (OP)
IMHO Sonic Advance 1 is the most "classic" feeling Sonic that you can get on the go. It hits everything just right from the old games. The philosophy of learning a level inside and out so you can go fast as fuck on replays is real. Special stages are eh but that's okay. Sonic Advance 2 fucked themselves by using the speed break mechanic as a crutch instead of designing more interesting levels, and I've never played Sonic Advance 3.

>>11858609
Calling everyone indian just makes you sound dumb and impressionable

Advance 1 feels like a more unique redo of Pocket Adventure, but I hated the "Angel Island" and Egg Rocket Zones.
Advance 2 is when they really overdid it on the Emerald requirements, and it changed the gameplay to prototypical Rush/boost, lackluster bosses.
Advance 3 is more like Chaotix 2 and is a far better game, Special Stage requirements are still ass though and hubs were unnecessary and shouldn't be confusing to navigate.
Overall 3 > 1 >> 2

1 > 2 > 3

>>11858598 (OP)
2 because it has cream and 3 is retarded.

2 is the only one of these that actually felt like it was actually trying to improve upon the 2d sonic gameplay despite all its flaws so it's the only one that stuck out to me worth playing. the other 2 just felt like they simply exist to have sonic games on the gba.

>>11858668
Came here to post this

>>11858607
Sonic Battle is fucking dog shit.

>>11858607
this, it's probably the most enjoyable GBA Sonic game.

>>11858609
I do not limit my life choices around the options you give to me.

cream the rabbit

>>11859305
>it's probably the most enjoyable GBA Sonic game.
Do you like grinding and terrible "strategic" gameplay?

Advance 1 constantly feels like you have weights strapped to your legs, it's so fucking painful and slow just to get a run going in a way the classics never did.
If the decomps (whenever they get finished) ever include ACTUAL classic physics as a mod, it'd be way better for sure, but the actual physics ruin the game for me. I really don't know how people tolerate it.

>>11859319

>>11858783
>i prefer the worse Advance game with the worse unlocksble methods because I'm a retarded cubfag
Advance 3 has filtered many Sonicfags.

>>11858598 (OP)
1 was the best I guess. They're all mediocre. The level design and music are completely forgettable; they all feel like a big step down from the Mega Drive games.

>>11859328
Because Advance 1 focuses on platforming while Advance 2 took the 4kids marketing up to 11 to boost sales (it didn't lol)
Also
>unironically modding good games
The first Advance game was the other high scoring 2D Sonic game until Mania got it's expansion, being tied with it.
The Advance 2 decomp exist because zoomers like to glaze it's graphical presentation over other Dimps Sonic games.

>>11859359
You talk like you have unresolved childhood issues.

>>11859364
That's rich coming from someone who unironicly mod video games.

>>11858668
This

>>11859349
Good the non-sonic fans can have it

>>11859483
As opposed to ironically modding videogames?

>>11858598 (OP)
I'd say the 1st title is the better of them because it feels more like classic Sonic... Pocket Adventure mogs all of them though.

>>11858607
I wish they used the isometric view from Battle and made an action game from it. Perhaps a Sonic beat em up.

>>11858668
This, though I enjoy all of them

Sonic Advance
Why?
Tiny Chao Garden, that's why.

>sonic game
>not on the genesis
no thanks, anon, i don't play trash.

>tfw you unlocked Amy legit in Advance 2

>>11859854
2 and Pinball Party have the version without the stat glitched

I'll never get the idea of why they needed to make getting the full ending such an autistic chore.
Getting all the Emeralds with one character should be enough and hopefully not making replaying the special stages so annoying.

It doesn't make getting them fun.

1 feels more like a proper Sonic game, 2 and 3 feels like they tried to be too cute and ended up making thing more unnecesarily convoluted.

>>11858598 (OP)
I don't like how instead of the free movement pinball mechanics of classic they stick to the stilted and railroaded mechanics of adventure

>>11859580
As a not-sonic fan, I in fact greatly enjoyed Sonic Advance 3. Messing around with the different partner matchups was fun.

I still have never beaten Advance 2 and I doubt I ever will. The Sky Canyon boss is nearly impossible for me.

>>11858609
Sonic Battle is basically Sonic Advance 2.5, it takes place between 2 and 3.

2>1>3 they're all good though.

>>11858598 (OP)
Marry, kill, fuck
1 was a good game with good music and complete ideas, and had Tiny Chao Garden. Very replayable. You can go so damn fast that the screen can't catch up. A lot of cool original level ideas. Farming money to feed chao is an experience I'm not trading for the other two. Ice Mountain is one of the better things I've heard on GBA despite being such an early release.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xDehV_E1bS0
3 had some interesting ideas. Hubworlds are comfy if a little weird, music is pretty good. Collecting chao is controversial but I thought it gave the game an interesting reason to play the levels in different ways, and you only have to collect them once. The game and//or manual should have done a better job of explaining how special stage access worked. I liked the robot story. The levels can be cramped and platforming heavy, but it's an enjoyable challenge. First zone is kinda lame. Partner moves just felt like a cheat. The hub and chao system subtly discourage replaying the game.
2 is a mess, it promises speed to the extent even the level-end and bosses are running, but doesn't often let you enjoy it. Sky Canyon halts the fun harder than Marble Zone ever could in its wildest memes, what a filter. Special stage system is fucked, the special stages themselves are stupid, and you have to do everything for every attempt. Game makes you do way too much work to unlock the chao garden among other things. I like the idea of a map but it made everything seem sort of fake like a theme park. Cream is OP and lame, sorry creambros. The only thing I enjoy replaying is the boss rush on the final stage, which is admittedly cool. Seriously the special stages can fuck off.

>>11859319
ok fine if you insist

>>11860238
>cream is OP
yes
>and lame
no, she is the only reason I care about this series outside of the genesis trilogy.

>>11858607
I want a port/remaster that cuts on the repeated filler fights and gives me online.
An Emerl torunament would be sick

Sonic 1 because it feels like a classic Sonic game both in terms of atmosphere and gameplay. Also the emeralds are also not a pain in the ass to collect. Getting the true ending in 2 and 3 is so tedious it's unreal
>>11859663
Basically this except I prefer Advance 1 to Pocket Adventure

I was very disappointed that we didn’t get Shadow in 3.

SA3 is the best one. You take a lot of beatings in these games but you learn to like them.

>>11858598 (OP)
Advance 1 is just a Sonic 2 retread, Amy is neat but that's all.
Advance 2 has some good ideas but the level design being borderline randomized on what path you have to pick, and the only actual way being with the SP rings sucks
Advance 3 is like a better version of Chaotix, very fun, and the different character combos are fresh and cool. So that one.

>>11861380
>Advance 3 is like a better version of Chaotix
More like Chaotix if it wasn't complete garbage, still not something I'd call 'very fun'. Also iirc Cream just breaks the game just like in 2

all we need is just "HD" versions with wider screen space.

but eh.

did play SA1 at one point from a... ...arguably not very good part of my life.

>>11859928
>2 and Pinball Party have the version without the stat glitched
I wish I known that 20 years ago. Oh my God. I'm desolated.

>>11859581
look at any GameBanana page for Sonic and tell me modding autists aren't fatherless as fuck lol

>>11859663
This was basically Mania if it got a Gameboy Color port

>>11859928
>Pinball Party
https://youtu.be/FRX5vmARVWs
https://youtu.be/Kpb68eblu2w
https://youtu.be/JnP87yU-9pk

>>11860649
I saw someone making a Godot recreation of Sonic Battle, hopefully they'll go out of their way and unfuck the horrible campaign and it's filler fights.

>>11861906
Except it was a Neo Geo Pocket Color title so it got even less exposure.
But I can see the GBC running this game just fine.

>>11861397
>Also iirc Cream just breaks the game just like in 2
She breaks bosses, but who plays Sonic games for the bosses? In the actual stages and time attack she's pretty balanced, the midair jump she gives you is more useful than the Cheese power.

>>11858598 (OP)
SA1 is kind of a bland and lesser mix of SonicMD1&2. SA2 is a "shitty hold right to win, memorize when to press jump" pos with terrible bosses. SA3 actually has ambitious ideas but lack the polish to really make it float (also terrible physics for some reason).

SA1 is by default the least offensive.

>>11859676
I got something close you might like.

>>11859875
My condolences

>>11858598 (OP)
1>2>3. 1 is perfectly well made. The worst thing I have to say about it is that I don't like how the special stages are in specific locations since exploration has never been one of Sonic's strongest aspects.
2 is bullshit. The game seems like it was designed on the idea that Sonic is too easy but their solution to the problem was to just throw bullshit at the player. Getting the special stages is the worst possible idea they could've come up with, every boss being a running boss is annoying with that insta-kill one being the worst offender.
3 had some neat ideas with the partner system and overall tones down the negatives from 2 but it still had a fair amount of bullshit that relied more on memorization.

>>11863748
>1>3>2
My mistake.

>>11863751
Forgiven.

>>11859875
>tfw you unlocked the chao garden legit in Advance 2
the chao garden is why 1+2 will always be better than 3

>>11860813
>Shadow
Thank fuck he didn't corrupt 2D games yet.

>>11858598 (OP)
The misaligned sprites in this image are killing me

I played Advance 2 with the SP hack and think it's easily one of the best 2D games with it, period. Amazing what you get by simply filling in a few pits/deleting a couple enemies and reducing the SP rings required.

>>11864032
At first I thought you meant the three games weren't on the same imaginary grid, but I looked closer and now I see it

1 is a real Sonic game. 2 and 3 are gayshit for handhelds.

>>11864026
>what is Sonic Rivals

>>11864050
>pits

>>11864032
Don't forget the weird pillow shading.
It's like the sprite artist forgot he can color the linework.

1 is a Sonic the Hedgehog Pocket Adventure reimagining.
2 is a Sonic Rush prequel.
3 is like a Knuckles' Chaotix sequel disguised as a Sonic Battle sequel.
I think most people agree the second is the lesser of the three since it's prototypical boost, but they're three fairly different games!

I dont understand why every 2d sonic game has to have the most autistic ways to collect emeralds. It might be at its worst in the advance trilogy and to top it off they never implemented super forms even after three games

>>11866320
Boost Mode was a better idea than a Boost button

>>11866271
>Jumping in too hard
Not helping the toddler rep

>>11859319
i dont get why she isnt in more games. shes like the tails equivalent but for girls

>>11858629
OK saar.

>>11868671
Tails isn't a girl?

>>11868671
Because she explicitly exists because Team Rose had a Speed and Power character, but they couldn't think of any other Sonic characters who fly. So they just threw together a new one. That's why she very rarely appears after that unless the game is really going out of their way to use as many Sonic characters as they can.

1 felt like a classic in a dimps-way and i like.

2 was my favorite by far. It's stupid fun when you learn the levels, the level design was fucking great. Big flaw was getting the special stages and unlock Amy. Hot Crater, best zone.

3's level design was a mess, it is like they tried mixed CD+Classic with the occasional team-routes in it, and the result sometimes wasnt good at all. Ocean Base is prolly one of the zones i hate the most in any Sonic game, that level design isnt good, it should never have been the 3rd zone of the game and has their own badnik trio like Metropolis. Really, having an octo that spits oil and that oil stays in the middle of the air? Really?
Chaos Angel act 3 was a mistake.
The ending was nice tho after what happened in Battle

>>11858598 (OP)
I choose any of them over the adventure ball gargle games

>>11858598 (OP)
Advance 2 is one of the only instances of a Sonic game mostly having good bosses. Each of them has a unique way to play more aggressively, like making use of the terrain on the ice one to hit it without the platform, rolling on the hammer one for multiple hits, or being more risk-taking with the platforming of the saw one. The later stages also have careful enemy placement, with a lot of them being made to be difficult to avoid getting sniped by and usually residing in sections with difficult to navigate terrain, meaning you have to pay attention more than usual. The amount of paths you have to traverse to get all SP Rings per stage is nice as well, and the game as a whole challenging the player more is appreciated, it reminds me of the Mega Man Zero games in that regard. The rest are nice too, but Advance 1 appeals more to people who dislike games like Advance 2, as it's more casual and sometimes less interesting (Angel Island is a filler stage).

>>11869096
No, and in fact, he might be the straightest man in the franchise besides prebootArchieSonic. Chicks dig smart cuties.
>>11869127
There's a theory running around that Sega's full of shit. The original Sonic Heroes entered development in early 2002 - Sonic X's initial pilot was allegedly made in 2001 and already had Cream and "Chao" (Cheese).