Bulbasaur > Squirtle > Charmander

Squirtle > the rest
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CMNry4PE93Y

Bulbasaur > Charmander > Squirtle
Ivysaur > Charmeleon > Wartortle
Blastoise > Charizard > Venusaur

fuck starters, i'm getting a slowpoke asap

>>11859178
Based. Suffering with gay turtle and stupidly cool looking turtle was a price a pay to get badass looking turtle with guns in its shell.

>>11859146 (OP)
if you picked bulbasaur, you are not cishet today

>>11859197
charmander pickers are now furries
and furries are all gay

Blastoise has the better move pool and could take out Charizard and Venusaur with ease.
1. Surf
2. Blizzard
3. Earthquake
4. Body slam/Submission

I love Blastoise but it's the one I pick the least only because there's so many water pokemon to choose from and I tend to avoid repeating types

>>11859217
Venusaur is unequivocally the strongest starter, objectively it's not even up to discussion. Not that any of the starters is up there competitively but still...

>>11859226
Sleep powder and sword dance and then body slam is a good combo. Razor leaf is a great move too in gen1. Shame they nerfed the crit rate in gen2 onwards.

>>11859146 (OP)
Charmander sucks early game
Bulbasaur sucks late game

Squirter never sucks

>>11859273
>Bulbasaur sucks late game
common mistake
Venusaur is still good against Giovanni (Rock/Ground), Loreli (Water), and Bruno (Rock/Ground) with the only exception being Loreli's Jynx

>>11859274
It sucks for Koga, Blaine, Agatha, Lance and the Champion fight

Blastoise never sucks because it gets fucking Ice Beam on Celadon

>>11859146 (OP)
Bulbasaur > Squirtle > Charmander > Bulbasaur
There was very important information missing from your type weakness chart. I have corrected it.

The gigachad move was getting Blue Version but still picking Charmander

>>11859361
I got Red and picked Squirtle

>>11859361
For me, it's picking Squirtle in Red and having Arcanine as the team's fire-type

>>11859146 (OP)
The 4chan-approved contrarian ranking

>>11859234
I discovered the Toxic + Leech Seed glitch on my own as a kid, and Venusaur has been my favorite of the three ever since.

>>11859280
Venusaur is only really bad against Blaine. Status is king in Gen 1 and Bulbasaur is the status starter.
Razor Leaf / Leech Seed / Toxic / Sleep Powder is a really easy moveset to get and gives Venusaur even odds or better against anything that isn't both faster than it AND has a super-effective move.
80 base speed is solid, 80/83/100 for bulk is solid too, and Razor Leaf always crits coming off of 100 Special. It even has 82 attack if you want to get funky with Swords Dance.

Squirtle's hardest fight in the game is probably Lt. Surge.

>>11859443
There's no argument here, Bulbasaur was always known as the easy mode pick.

>>11859146 (OP)
>>11859178
charmander > squirtle = bulbasaur
wartortle > ivysaur > charmeleon
venusaur > charizard > blastoise

>>11859379
hi gary

>>11859660

>>11859443
Swap sleep powder with body slam

>>>/vp/

For a game that basically didn't have Fire-types, getting a blazing Tyrannosaurus dragon was pretty dang cool.

>>11859146 (OP)
>plebeian
Charmander
>contrarian
Bulbasaur
>patrician
Squirtle

Venusaur is better for standard play and actually having a niche in OU but is worse at everything else than the other starters.

>>11861382
>For a game that basically didn't have Fire-types
Arcanine? Ninetales? Magmar? Flareon?

>>11859146 (OP)
Charmander is the cutest starter and evolves into the coolest of the starters.

>>11859273
Charmander is great early game, there's lots of bugs for him to burn.
>muh Brock
You can easily beat Brock with just Ember. Geodude and Onix have garbage Special and no rock moves.
>muh Misty
By that point you should have more Pokemon to use. If you're trying to solo the game with your starter than that's on you for doing a self-imposed challenge.

>>11861468
>Arcanine?
Red only.
>Ninetales?
Blue only.
>Magmar?
I dont remember which one, but it was another one game only.
>Flareon?
It sucks.

>>11861689
>I dont remember which one, but it was another one game only.
Blue

>>11861468
>>11861689
There's also Rapidash and Moltres

>>11861694
Rapidash is my little pony tier, Moltres is post-game.

>>11861468
>>11861694
Fire types outside of Ninetales and Charizard suck ass in gen 1.

>>11861689
flareon only sucks after gen 1, he has 110 base special which was allocated to his special defense afterward
>>11861697
horses are majestic, fag

squirtle.

>>11861767
Flareon is still a slow and frail mixed attacker with no moves and is ranked at the lowest tier a fully evolved pokemon could be.
Gen 2 giving it Shadow ball and growth made it better than it was in gen 1.

>>11861689
never thought about it, but i literally never have ever even thought of putting a firemon on my team, in any pokeyman game ever, and i think the pitiful selection in RBY is why

blue was so clearly the better version, its not even funny
>persian
>sandslash (GOAT cut slave, cuz hes actually pretty good early)
>ninetales
>magmar
>victreebell
>pinsir
>33% off your next porygon
certainly the version you want if you wanna even try and make a non-charizard fire mon work. magmar is too late to matter, but ninetales is ok. i guess. btfos arcanine, which is actual fucking trash lol just dont evolve it till like lvl 50 bro wtf r u retarded?. what an infuriatingly designed mon

>>11861767
ok so i guess i DID have a flareon at one point
i think it was probably just for trades with friends, but i remember it had bodyslam, since i always duped my TMs, and i actually did beat some ppl with a flareon

>>11861437
>Venusaur is better for standard play and actually having a niche in OU
wtf could venasaur possibly do in that tier? admittedly havent played that tier in a long time, but wat?
whats it doing? OHKOing rhydon? ok, but it gets btfo by almost everyone else who youre definitely GONNA see. jynx, zam, egg, starmie, zapdos etc
toxic + leech seed cheese? but no ones ever gonna be stupid enough let you actually get that off tho
i cant see where it would be better than just using a better grass mon like victreebell or even eggy with megadrain, if youre that desperate to clown rhydon

>>11861905
Chlorophyl sweeper with sleep powder and better stats than victreebell.
It was actually busted when dynamax was a thing too

>>11861943
oh i thought he meant in RBY
i cant imagine venasaur doing much of anything there, outside of dying immediately
the only grass mons in that tier are victreebell, and i guess thats kinda it cuz eggy usually only runs sleep powder as a grass move

>>11861905
It's basically a faster eggy with sword Dance and body slam but with crippling weakness.
What you do with Venusaur is basically put something to sleep and step Sword Dance to cripple something with either Body Slam or Hyper Beam once you're boosted, then you Razor Leaf anything weak to it.
>>11861943
>>11861994
I was, in fact, talking about RBY.

>>11859146 (OP)
Fuck, kill, marry

>>11861831
Even discounting all the glitches, stuff like this really demonstrates how poorly-designed Gen 1 was

>>11862139
crush kill destroy

I fucking love gen 1-3 pokemon bros
It's like magic
The game is as hard or as easy as you want to it to be

>>11862569
>gen 3
>magic
crap magic, maybe.

>>11862569
Gen 1 and 3 were good, Gen 2 was kind of shitty, but it's because the development cycle was completely fucked and they temporarily changed pokemon designs from cool monsters to appeal to girls

>>11862572
How the hell do you hate gen 3? It's quality front to back. Nice music, cool pokemon, crisp visuals, lots of intrigue

>>11862583
Gen 2 is a spiritual game. All of the music, sound effects and world space come together in a hypnotic piece of art. Yeah it's not the most badass testosterone fueled game but it feels like a dream and it's fine if the dream is a bit soft

Gen 1 is so fucking gritty. It feels like you're playing the toughest 80s anime . Everything oozes old school Japan , the jank adds to it

>>11862604
>Gen 2 is a spiritual game. All of the music, sound effects and world space come together in a hypnotic piece of art.

>>11862583
Gen2 attracts the most girl and gay love, unfortunately that also means it's vocal fanboys are really catty and annoying

>>11862583
Gen 1 already tried to appeal to girls with Clefairy, it was intended to be the flagship "cutemon". Pikachu took that over though, and also was designed by a woman if that matters.
Gen 2's problem was that every new pokemon had to be toyetic, be easier to be turned into toys and merchandise. Sugimori said as much himself and wanted to bring back more kaiju, monstrous cool mons
>>11862604
>Gen 2 is a spiritual game. All of the music, sound effects and world space come together in a hypnotic piece of art.
I do agree with this though.

>>11862610
>>11862610
Is that you as Johan Sebastian Bach shocked into a stupor by my hot options
>>11862613
Who gives a shit what fags think

>>11862618
They added a whole mechanic in Gen 2 just to appeal to girls

>>11862621
It's him as Samuel Johnson, plebean

>>11862745
Girls love Pokemon