I know console wars are dumb, it's all fucking plastic at the end of the day. But I wanted to ask the anons that were alive and conscious during that time period their thoughts on it, and in hindsight what they think. I know we're all aware Nintendo won in the long run but I'm curious.

>>11860019 (OP)
I got a Super Nintendo first but a friend convinced me to get a Sega Genesis, which I did.
Enjoyed both consoles at the same time almost, it was glorious. Golden age of vidya easily, in terms of sheerl quality, and also I still think CD-based systems suck, fuck a load time. Yes, I can wait for 30 seconds in between screens but let's be honest, it's way better when there's no loading at all.

>>11860019 (OP)
It's weird but in my head I never looked at it as a competition because the Genesis came out 2 years earlier than the SNES. To me they were almost like different console generations. I spent a few years with the Genesis and enjoyed that. Then I got an SNES when that came out and enjoyed that too.

>>11860035
That's fair, I'm almost envious of that, I grew up the PS2 era and see that as the golden age, but to be alive with cash and living through that time when all those classics were dropping seems insane.
>>11860036
That's fair. I'm sure most of that console war stuff at the time was straight up marketing, but as you said you really couldn't go wrong either way.

>>11860019 (OP)
Had a Genesis first, then a nes, then a PlayStation, then a SNES then a 64. All before I was 13. Sonic is one of my first memories as a toddler and my bias goes towards Genesis for that reason only. Besides that, I think every console has at least a little merit. I owned a gp32 in 04 and that was one of the coolest homebrew scenes to be apart of. Though I never made anything, I was there when handheld emulators were just on their infancy.bi still own a few and a gp2x and a cannoo. They're all amazing in their own right and without gamepark holding, there would be no crazy chinkhelds playing PS2 and shit.

>>11860042
Had to search up the GP32 but that looks pretty ahead of it's time. The PSP kinda came in and refined that, but god damn that looks cool. Every console definitely has a little merit even if they fail there something to learn or get from it, but man you're one lucky bastard to have all that growing up lol

>>11860019 (OP)
>I know console wars are dumb, it's all fucking plastic at the end of the day.

With millions of dollars backing them you idiot.

>>11860067
Okay?

>I know console wars are dumb, it's all fucking plastic at the end of the day.
Blasphemy!!!

>>11860035
What the hell even is that system they're playing?

>>11861241
bootleg famicom

>>11860019 (OP)
I'll try to be as objective as possible.
Sales wise, I actually think Genesis won in US. We have some sales data from before DKC, and Genesis was outselling SNES 2:1. Now, after that SNES allegedly took over, but it still was tough for Nintendo. I think you need to keep this in mind, because "back then" it wasn't clear cut at all.
We know for sure though that Genesis totally won in Europe, but got destroyed in Japan. Important to understand that yuros often hate SNES because they didn't grow up with it.
As for critical reception and legacy, I think SNES wins. It's the best of Nintendo with the best of Japanese 3rd parties. You never had both on the same console ever since.
Does this mean it's not overrated? Not really. If you aren't into jarpig, you won't like Chrono Trigger and Final Fantasy VI. Earthbound got overrated as hell. But, it still deserves praise for a ton of other games.
Sega wasn't half bad, but I think it was held back hard by 2 problems:
1) It wasn't nearly as progressive as SNES. Sega often copied other games, like eg Final Fight or Phantasy Star, but it rarely made true innovation. It was often stuck in late 80s era game design, for better it for worse—just arcade style action, good if you're a fan of it, bad if you're not. So few games even had saves on the system.
2) all the best 3rd parties in Japan went to SNES. Sure, you had some input from Konami, as well as Treasure, Technosoft, etc.. But I just think nothing compares to SNES 3rd parties, they had Capcom, Square, etc. etc..

>>11860019 (OP)
Nintendo was for the spoiled only-children, Sega was for the real gamers.
Both consoles had great games, but I still prefer Sega. Sega was an arcade developer and it showed in the hardware and library.

>>11861440
>rarely made true innovation
As if arcade games can't be innovative. Super Hang-On, Space Harrier, Afterburner 2, Virtua Fighter, Panzer Dragoon, etc. They were all very original and influencial. Just alone the lock-on system from Afterburner is cooler than anything Nintendo ever did.

>>11861458
>influencial

>>11861458
You quickly jumped over to Saturn era though. Sega WAS actually innovative during later years, not that much during Genesis era though.
With respect to Sega, I don't think many will cite Hang On as an "innovative" game today. Space Harrier is ok, both are multicart core though.
>Afterburner is cooler than anything Nintendo ever did
Thanks for letting me know you don't understand shit about Nintendo and video games in general

Man I regret being so edgey as a kid. The marketing got me. I was a sega kid and you couldn’t convince me mario was cool. Sega had Sonic, Mortal Kombat, Carnage, Turtles, Golden Axe, X Men, ext. Mario was for babies. Cool guys like me only liked comics, ninjas, fantasy warriors, and turtles, and going fast. In retrospect nintendo got some cool fun games and I made more nintendo friends in high school and started playing emulated games. Mario was fun, but Sega was cool as fuck in its day.

>>11860019 (OP)
Somebody post all those BBS screenshots

>>11860019 (OP)
Loyalty mostly came down to which console you had in the house. I had a Genesis so I thought Genesis was best.
There were never any arguments about it between friends who had different stuff, though. We were just stoked to play video games.

>>11860019 (OP)
I had both :)

It never really occurred to me that Sega vs Nintendo was a thing, and I think it's a kind of narrative that gets retroactively placed on the time period, than anything.
Maybe it was just Americans who were into all of that nonsense.

>>11861241

>>11861440
>Sega often copied other games, like eg Final Fight or Phantasy Star, but it rarely made true innovation
Post those 'true innovative' games that are not copies of others

>>11861479
Zoom alert. Super scaler arcade games were state of the art back then.

>>11861479
>Saturn era
Only Panzer Dragoon

>Sega WAS actually innovative during later years
Sega literally had Yu Suzuki in the 16 bit era. The guy was innovative as fuck. You have no clue what you are talking about

>I don't think many will cite Hang On as an "innovative" game today
Most people also have no clue about games. The game defined the racing genre and spawned Outrun which uses the same engine as Super Hang-On. It used the first motorcycle arcade cabinet, which was very experimental back then. Arcades didn't really use fancy cabinets back then.

Nintendo made more modern, consolized game design, yes, but modern game design still borrowed a lot from arcades. And Sega was a giant at arcades.

>>11861605
>Super scaler arcade games were state of the art back then.
This. It was the Mode 7 of back then.

>>11860019 (OP)
SNES won both in sales, legacy and overall library.

If we only consider the top, let's say, 20 games of each console, it's up for debate which are better and mostly comes down to personal tastes, but the SNES simply had more good games thanks to the superior support from japanese developers.

I'm from UK. SEGA was popular here but I never owned one of their consoles and only knew the Mega Drive as the Sonic machine, the chavvy shithead kids from single mother households tended to have SEGA consoles. My parents always got me Nintendo consoles so it's what I like.

>>11861241
Dendy

in my town there was no war you owned both and played genesis way more because of the sports games. later mariokart was big in that vein

>>11860036
My experience too. They also dropped the price of the SNES to $99 by like 1993 even before the system got a lot of its best games, and that point you only needed to be interested in a couple of SNES exclusives for it to be worth it even if you'd had a Genesis since 1990.

>>11861440
>So few games even had saves on the system.
That's a point in the Genesis' favor for me these days. It's like the NES, I can get a game and not worry about if it has a dead battery in it

>>11861440
>We know for sure though that Genesis totally won in Europe, but got destroyed in Japan. Important to understand that yuros often hate SNES because they didn't grow up with it.
I'm tired of hearing this shit, as it doesn't reflect my experience at all. NES and SNES were overwhelmingly popular, it wasn't until the N64 that Nintendo lost ground (to Playstation obviously, Saturn was nonexistent). I'm italian but I've spoken to french and spanish people that feel the same. I believe this myth of Europe hating Nintendo has been propagated by brits, that naturally have a bigger presence in the english speaking internet.

Sega if you like arcade games, Nintendo if you like onions

I grew up with the SNES as my first console and I loved it, but I also loved playing on my friends' Megadrives. As an adult, the Megadrive is actually my favorite 4th gen console, while the SNES is actually my least favorite behind Neo-Geo and PCE. Make of that whatever you will.

>>11863891
FF3 is NES, not SNES.