So is playing this really like dropping acid?

The rounded figures and geometric shapes and simple colors are more like taking DMT and keeping your eyes open the whole time. LSD is more like everything is moving all the time and you can't stop thinking for 8 hours.

>>11860697 (OP)
Drop some acid and find out
But to be serious, from my experience with hallucinogens the visual aspect is only one part of it, and not even that big a part. It's more about how it fucks with the way you think. Maybe if you played it for 48 hours straight you'd feel somewhat similar.

Does it make you cry tears of joy when you hear the sounds of heaven while playing Pink Floyd records?

>>11860697 (OP)
no it's like dreaming

>>11860697 (OP)
Absolutely not in the slightest. Normally, your brain isn’t passively receiving the world, it's just predicting it. It uses past experience to filter and simplify sensory input. This makes things feel familiar, stable, and normal.

LSD feels like going to fucking Disneyland as a 5 year old. Your brain stops dulling repeated or "boring" input. The texture of a wall, a leaf, or even silence can feel fresh and profound because nothing is being dismissed. Colors pop, textures shimmer, lights glow like magic. The entire world is exciting, amazing, and wonderful. With no familiar filter, the brain interprets everything as emotionally and perceptually significant, like you're seeing it for the first time.

It's worth doing at least once in your lifetime.

LSD: Dream Emulator is a walking sim where the backgrounds get jumbled up and whenever you touch something, the scene changes. It's a bit dull, to be honest.

>>11860738
My boyfriend and his friend took acid and I played this game for them. At that point I'd never taken acid, so I didn't know how to guide them. So I just kept saying over and over, "Uh oh...that's not good. We gotta get out of here", and both of them started freaking out, going "Why?! What's going on?!" And I'd keep saying, "He's coming. He's almost here." Later on they told me that when they finally saw The Grey Man, both of them had never been more afraid in their lives.

https://dreamemulator.fandom.com/wiki/Gray_Man

It was kind of a dull expereicne for me. LSD is honestly a very boring game. Acid is an extremely fun drug. Word to the wise, you're going to want to eat a LOT before dropping acid, because trying to eat on acid just...doesn't work. You won't feel hungry, you won't want to do it. Kind of the same for drinking water. Best to make sure that's all taken care of.

>>11860738
This. Nothing is "like dropping acid" except similar psychedelics like psilocybin mushrooms or some aspects of other substances like ketamine. The headspace, feeling bodily boundaries dissolve, dissolution of ego and separation, those are all much more important than any visuals. And even the visuals aren't nearly as interesting when divorced from those things, when visual effects feel like they can carry meaning.

>>11860752
I prefer to do it on a mostly empty stomach. But good cool water is godly on a trip for me. When I do eat something, I go for fruit. A nashi pear has sort of become a traditional snack during my trips.

>>11860697 (OP)
No.

>>11860770
I remember my throat kind of rejecting water, maybe a psychosomatic response from how I reacted to trying to eat food. I've not tried eating fruit during trips, I bet strawberries would be really lovely to try.

LSD is like being in a loud casino with everything flashing and you're either gonna win big or come out with nothing.

>>11860794
Have you even tried it? Because if so I have no idea how you got that from it. Or maybe your setting was odd. I just like to trip in a forest. Most certainly does not feel like a casino.

>>11860794
>>11860808

Wasn't that from that Sopranos episode where Tony took peyote in Vegas?

>>11860808
Doing shrooms in a forest made me understand why my ancestors worshiped trees.

I've never done drugs and I never drank until a few years ago, already into my late 20's. I am not cool or interesting and I have no friends
LSD Dream Simulator is more about what the title says, it's based on a dream journal iirc.

>>11860752
Where do you even get good acid like that? I tried it a couple times and never felt shit.

>>11860808
Multiple times, mostly in my own home with different doses, it's not a drug I'm likely to ever going back to nowadays because it's too long to do at any one time and requires rest pretty much right after. I've had more 'productive' trips on mushrooms with friends in the woods, and also just in general. DMT might have been the strangest, it's also the least easy to do. In all, LSD: Dream Simulator is not like any of these substances, it's more like what its name implies, a dream simulator.

>>11860850
Setting is important, I made the mistake of taking it at a student party with a bunch of people I never knew (also my first time doing ecstasy) and it just felt scary after the ecstasy wore off because I could see flickering shadow people out of the corner of my eye.

>>11860850
I get 1P-LSD from the Netherlands where it's legal cause it's chemically not identical, but it gets metabolized to the same thing.
>>11860856
You sure you had LSD, mate? Or molly for that matter? Shadow people is like a psychotic episode kind of thing. That's usually related to dopamine and norepinephrine receptor activity.

>>11860893
Anon, I can 100% guarantee it was LSD. That was my first experience and it was not a properly prepared one. All my LSD experiences following that were far better. The negative experience was one bad experience as 21-year old versus at least 5 other better experiences later on.

>>11860901
Ah, I see. Shame, but fortunately you got nice trips after that. Acid and shrooms haven't taken a wrong turn for me yet. But I've started low and built my way up to higher doses. LSA on the other hand I don't need to try again. Fuck that.

Hey faggots, the game is about dreams, not LSD

>>11860940
No problem. What was LSA like that? Never heard of that one.

The only time I've played this game while high was on weed and it was great. Curious how it plays with other highs.

>>11860736
>LSD is more like everything is moving all the time and you can't stop thinking for 8 hours.
being unable to stop thinking is me 24/7 sober or not,tho im not much into downer so maybe that would help.

>>11861056
You can't stop thinking on it because you also lose grasp of basic thought and speech processes, so you can be trying to say a basic sentence but your sudden lack of articulation makes it seem more profound and alien. Music can be the one thing which magically makes the most sense.

>>11860752
>My boyfriend
Of course it's a fucking troon advocating for drugs. Let me guess, you discovered you were trans after taking drugs once

>>11861008
It occurs naturally in morning glory and Hawaiian baby woodrose seeds, as well as ergot fungus. It is lysergic acid and can serve as the basis to synthesize LSD from.
Tends to cause nausea and vasoconstriction, so it's uncomfortable at best and dangerous at worst. It has a phase that makes me feel like everything is fake and other people don't really exist, but not in the enlightening "all is one" way LSD does, more in a depressing and frightening solipsistic way. Visuals are less lights or geometry and more Contra-like writhing biomasses.
My experiences weren't all entirely negative, but at the last time I spent an entire day sick in bed drifting in and out of fever dreams and trying other things is rather not touch it anymore.
Incredible what small changes to the molecule could do. I tried LSZ recently and that one was like LSD's energetic upbeat tail end stretched out without any of the spiritual feel to it. Just amusing, very uplifting and fantastic for music, but kinda superficial.

>>11861005
Joke's on you, dreams are caused by the secretion of DMT from your pineal gland during REM sleep

>>11860697 (OP)
I wish you could turn the loud ass footsteps off.

>>11861103
you get lost on the way to /pol/?

>>11860697 (OP)
tong nou's weirder

>>11860752
why are you pretending you've taken LSD?

>>11861137
all drug experiences are superficial. you just overrate the significance of your early experiences because they're novel

>>11861892
What part of anything I said makes you think I'm pretending?

>>11861931
you're clearly just making shit up based on glowing reports you've heard from people who did take it
anyone who has ever dropped acid for real can see that you haven't

>>11861932
Whatever you say, man. I can't chang your mind, since you've already decided, but I know pretty damn well what I put on my tongue for a few weekends. We can both agree the comedown is absolutely ass though, yeah? It's what stops me from wanting to drop any more.

>>11861945
>the comedown is absolutely ass
yeah whatever you think you took, it absolutely was not LSD lol

>>11861945
worst i've ever felt on an LSD comedown was tired. you probably had NBOMe or DOI on those blotters.
it's pretty common, real LSD is extremely hard to come by the last couple decades. the stand-ins are way more stable for transport and far more widespread

>>11860770
Fruit is god tier. I cant imagine eating anything heavy on the stomach when tripping, that would be rancid.

>>11860697 (OP)
No, it was like dropping flaccid. I had more engaging fucked up weird shit in my own sober dreams, than this shit.

>>11862818
see
>>11861410
Dreams are a result of the most powerful psychoactive substance known. Keeping a dream journal makes you more likely to have reoccurring dreams that can result in lucidity much like a DMT trip (or this game) where you feel dreamlike but are completely awake.

>>11862825
The problem is that my dreams are segmented, I wake up and might need to take a piss, or drink some water, or just close my eyes all over again and resume the dream, but the moment I start writing it down into a journal, and exercising my mind, I can never return to the dream. And the more precious seconds I spend writing, the more minutes I forget. Dreams exist on some short-term RAM shit that gets quickly forgotten.
I won't deny that keeping a dream journal would exercise my mastery over dreams, but actually writing that shit kills dreams pretty damn quick. And most times, the dream isn't worth remembering unless it was worth remembering.

>>11862829
Human brains seek stimulation all the time, it sounds like you are a light sleeper as your physical body is louder than your mind. While there is nothing wrong with that, it does make it harder to feel grounded in a dream when your body is instinctually responding to physical stimuli such as consumed food, alcohol, caffeine, and cannabis as well as light exposure and physical discomfort such as overheating and unrelaxed posture. Dreams are loosely recreating various experiences and anxieties that you recall from your life, for that reason alone it's worth trying to document and understand. Usually a dream journal is kept by writing every positive and negative thing that happened but only after waking up in the morning rather than after being woken up by instinctual responses from poor sleep hygiene. Dreams are difficult to remember after the fact, that's why keeping a journal makes them easier to recall, address, and even revisit.

All that said, you can always cheat and smoke DMT. That will put you in a lucid dreamlike state right away while you're awake, which can be dangerous if you're not in a good environment for it. All people who use psychedelics will agree, mindset and comfortable environment will ensure a good trip much like how having good sleep hygiene will result in more lucid dreams.

>>11860823
>I am not cool or interesting
But at least you are not a filthy hippie

>>11862876
I accept the reality that dreams can only present us a scrambled account of our own experiences; contrary to most people's belief, our dreams are not prophetic, they're just memetic, from our own memories. Now, there's a few handsome gentlemen who struck a particularly big nugget of gold from mining their dreams, but do I have the same shot at success? Do I have what it takes? I never got laid, I'll never lay my waifu in my dreams.
Perhaps I just doubt the true power of lucid dreams; even when I realize I'm in a dream, and peered at my hands missing numerous digits, I can't control and steer the dream, only wonder "when is this nightmare going to end?"

>>11860893
>1P-LSD
Interesting, thanks. Quick question, I've experimented with RCs before but never anything remotely like LSD - mostly just dissos and fake benzos. I tend to handle bad weed trips from huge doses pretty well without freaking the fuck out. Would this be safe to take by myself without a babysitter? I have a roommate who I would not want to know.

>>11862887
Forget success, know thyself. Strongarming the direction of your dreams will cause disruption of your psyche unless you are a relaxed and experienced lucid dreamer. I've never considered myself much if a sexual being, but I've had a few sexual experiences in a dream which only played out to completion when allowing the dream/psyche to happen rather than attempting to control it. Then again, it would be difficult to experience these things if you don't accept that you are your psyche and everything inside it.

>>11862876
DMT necessitates you be in a good environment just for the amount of preparation for it, if all you do is burn it while lighting it and inhale it (and not hold it) you're doing it wrong.

>>11862893
Gonna go out on a limb and say that if you struggle with weed don't bother with LSD, because you have to handle the constant sensory overload on it.

>>11862936
Well yeah, if you smoke DMT like a cigarette you clearly didn't pay for it.

>>11862928
>Forget success, know thyself.
I like you, anon. I'll admit I played a bit of devil's advocate, voicing my inner demons n shit.
I'm just skeptical about how worth it is to master dreams, when I'm already working toward creative fields in my waking hours. Sleep, and dreams, are the small respite between the waking hours where I'm doing my best. It's a great comfort for me that I can just close my eyes at the end of the day and experience what may end up being same comforting grip, as would be the grip of death, at the end of it all. Anyway, I won't get too weird on that tangent. You're pretty cool. Puh-eace.

>>11862958
I appreciate your flattery as much as you'll find comfort in your success, awake or not. Righteous.

>>11862876
nicotine

>>11860697 (OP)
No, and I speak from experience.

>>11860823
Not doing drugs is cool though

>>11860697 (OP)
No. It's like lucid dreaming.

>>11862825
dreams have nothing to do with DMT.

>>11862928
you ever had succubus dreams ?
shit felt better than real sex until i woke up and felt drained.

>>11863396
It's cool after you've done drugs.

>>11863396
cope

>>11862893
Guy you were replying to here. I think trying half a tab, 50 micrograms, would be manageable without a sitter first time to dip your toes in. That's mostly headspace and not very trippy. But early experiences are usually best with someone experienced at hand.
That said I got started on shrooms by myself. Though my first breakthrough shroom trips and first acid trip were with someone with me (then GF, also tripping). I felt I would've been okay alone. It's hard to foresee. I feel a sitter is like insurance. Probably won't need it but if things take a bad turn night really help.

>>11861945
I was gonna disagree with those other anons until you brought up a comedown. What comedown? Acid trips just taper off. The tail end is long but kinda fun. It's the most energetic and upbeat part. At most you feel a bit tired after, which isn't odd after 7 hours of tripping. Next day is totally fine.
You really must have been given something else mate. There's reagent tests you can buy. Check that shit next time. Some stuff peddled as LSD is dangerous. You get bromo-dragonfly and it could be your end.

>>11863396
>sitting home on the weekend glued to your phone however is cool though

>>11863593
No. Then it's especially uncool. The only cool people are drug users and people who never tried them.

Ex druggies are fucking INSUFFERABLE.

>>11863535
>>11861410

It's more like a schizo simulator actually.

>>11863838
whats bromo-dragonfly

>>11861065
This, one time I had a fairly intelligent friend of mine who did acid while we were hanging out and the entire time he could only mutter single words, and just barely. We were thinking he made himself retarded, but the next day he was 100% fine.
Shit is weird man.

>>11863641
>>11863886
why so mad? being sober is cool

>>11864564
keep telling yourself that as you only consort with your trooncord friends and still remain a virgin

>>11863396
I agree with you, anon :)

>>11864646
Wait til you find out who is doing drugs...

>>11864560
The only words I can muster to speak on acid are "woah" "dude" "fuckkk" "shitttt" "damnnn" and "cool".

Its fun but it turns you into a total retard.

>>11865539
I was walking round my apartment once during a trip only saying "I am bunshou kara'd" over and over.

>>11864560
It distorts everything, simple as.

Anybody done sativa? Is it still legal in the EU/US?

>>11865558
I've heard low dose trips are weird but okay. Every high dose trip is an unimaginable nightmare and I never heard of a good trip from a breakthrough dose.

>>11861945
>>11861969
>>11863838
Comedown is a bit of an inaccurate term to use for LSD once the trip is over, your brain is burnt out more than anything. If you started your trip quite late in the day and had it wear off the next morning or later, you are going to feel shitty and grouchy as you try to sleep or do things normally, but your brain is so completely spent that that is difficult to do. The best time to take LSD is early of a morning so that ideally has worn off by the late evening and you have a window to do things which help you relax and sleep properly.

>>11865558
EU would depend on country. I know you can get it in the Netherlands.
Only time I tried it was smoking some regular dried leaf, not extract, a small amount. Immediately didn't like what I was feeling when it set in. Fortunately it was short-lived and I didn't go deep. I've read too many horror stories of horrendous trips on stronger doses. It's straight up a deliriant.

>>11865572
I heard chewing it causes a longer lasting and much more pleasant trip. It seems like extracting it and torching it is just not how it's meant to be.

>>11865571
I've always felt tired after an acid trip but never "shitty and grouchy"

>>11865558
you mean salvia ? sativa is a category of weed.

>>11860697 (OP)
not really
it's like a fever dream on repeat, like it was intended to be

>>11864412
unproven psuedoscientific horseshit.
endogenous DMT is never present in serum concentrations sufficient to produce a perceivable effect.

Choice

>>11865932
According to who, David E Nichols?

It's more like ketamine

>>11860697 (OP)
Acid is pretty shit and I never had a bad time on it its just nota great drug. I've even blacked out after eating an entire sheet. I have however seen it send a few people to psychiatric care for life. Are there real halluciongens that will make you see things? Yes but they are not to be fucked with. Be very wary of groups of people who hang out doing acid together and think they are leaning discoverig anything on it. Its a fucking drug, you won't learn fuck all on it.

Don't waste your time on it kids. If you want to put your health at risk do MDNA and smopke week coming down.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ui-TaOq2gEU

>>11867627
>I've even blacked out after eating an entire sheet.
No shit it was a waste of time.

>>11867627
>I've used it like a retard and didn't learn anything from it, so clearly no-one else could.
Maybe learn not to be an idiot first. It doesn't have to be a "spiritual" lesson. Getting insights into your own psyche and habits and shortcomings is also learning. I stopped drinking alcohol after shrooms gave me an insight about addictions.

>>11867742
>Getting insights into your own psyche and habits and shortcomings is also learning. I stopped drinking alcohol after shrooms gave me an insight about addictions.
you don't get any of that from eating drugs you moron if you gave up booze for some reason thats fucking psychotic break accidentally rolling a 5 you might have decided to shave yoyur fucking eyebrows instead. You earn NOTHING of worth when your high you fucking tool and knowing that is the way to take it not beinga fucking prick that thinks you've dicovering something that's the path to psychosis

>>11861639
It's not surprising, people hate your kind on every board. (rightfully so)

Anyways, LSD is just a fun game, no point in making it seem like some experience.

>>11867868
literally nobody said anything that could even suggest that poster's a dude

>>11867861
This post is amazing. It actually finally convinced me to get off this rancid board and stop wasting my time here.
So long /vr/etards, hope the good ones among you find greener pastures. Don't (you) me I won't be reading the replies.

>>11867627
Filtered.
all psychedelic experiences, or any radical shift in perspective for that matter, are profound opportunities for learning, reflection, and growth.
this is all lost on you, being a quintessential midwit.

>>11867861
psychedelics are well known to aid in breaking addictions. by their very nature they disrupt ingrained patterns.
you are a base creature of no worth to humanity and you should kill yourself at your earliest convenience.

>>11868130
I'll miss you, anon.

>>11868134
Hallucinogens do nothing but turn the user into a babbling pretentious retard. For example, you.

I love gooning on psychedelics.

>>11868153
you are literally too stupid to have this conversation.

>>11865192
people that have sex and have a social life

>>11868172
You are of the rock 'n roll lifestyle I'm sure.

>>11867868
>never experienced ego death
>speaking on behalf of others
we don't claim you

LSD in the game's title does not stand for the drug LSD, the D stands for dream but I forget the rest of the acronym. But it has nothing to do with drugs. This is 90s Japan for goodness sake.

>>11868539
90s japan had legal shrooms. also it stands for a lot of things in the game

>>11868539
Psilocybin mushrooms were legal and widely used in Japan until mid 2002.

>>11868414
>acting like he's experienced ego death
>still thinking in terms of "us" and "them"
lmfao. retard

This thread is making me really glad I've never done drugs.

>>11868891
>>people hate your kind on every board
all for one and one for all

>>11868918
I mean i'm pretty sure that's true, a lot of 4chan users are political drones who hate trans, just like they're told to
why wouldnt they be on every board

>>11868539
it stands for Lovely Sweet Dream

>>11868930
there are indeed people who have not experienced ego death

>>11869250
yeah, like you

>>11868891
hi, just dropping in to greet you, dumbass

>>11869354
You should give it a shot if you ever get the chance

>>11869524
you first

>>11860697 (OP)
For me, it’s Nitrous Oxide.

>>11869583
I appreciate the terror of facing death, acceptance of mortality clarifies life. Can you?

>>11869683
blah blah blah. you think you've freed yourself but you just switched out for a prettier set of chains.
get beyond defining things in terms of life, death, terror, and clarity. then maybe you'll know something.
drugs give you mere glimpses. they can't show you the path

>>11869697
Love does not dishonor others, is not self-seeking, is not easily angered, and keeps no record of wrongs. As you stare into the night through darkened glass, we shall become one another as you see yourself in your reflection.

>>11869735
nice try.

>>11869746
Thanks, it's easier to understand if you've experienced it.

>>11869762
You're a fraud. Stop embarrassing yourself.

>>11869775
I'm not here to change your mind, that's your decision to make.

I used to get butthurt about /vr/ mods deleting posts I'd make about dudeweed or "what do you drink while gaming?", now I'm nostalgic for it. Look at these fags angrily jerking each other off over muh mushroom juice. What the fuck does your community college experience with street drugs have to do with retro games? Just stop, man.

>>11869790
There's been a good couple of completely off-topic threads this week, I'd be fine if my own off-topic posts hadn't gotten me two day bans in the past.

>>11869789
you're here to make a fool of yourself. stop doing that.

>>11869797
Shit changed after the hack. It's weird, because I'd say the discourse is overall better than it was before (probably because two weeks without 4thchin killed a few zoomer shitposters that needed their hourly dopamine fix so they moved on to altchans or reddit), but I can't help feeling like a little soul died in the process. Remember how active /crt/ used to be? Now it's a ghost town. I didn't even post in those threads much, but now I kind of miss them bumping to the top constantly. It's bizarre because I feel like we have a little more freedom than we did before, the mods aren't as anal, but the discussion has become sterile, and shit that used to get deleted before is allowed to persist. I don't know what to make of the whole thing.

>>11869790
LSD Dream Emulator is the definition of an anecdotal game. I'd say discussing the experience of dreams which inspired the game setting and their relation to psychedelic experiences seems on topic.

>>11869824
>I'd say discussing the experience of dreams which inspired the game setting and their relation to psychedelic experiences seems on topic.
I disagree, because as a burned out middle aged man that has done every drug under the sun, nothing about this game or any game resembles sitting in a car with your buddies outside your suburban house and watching the entire course of human history play out in the neighbor's window while you think you're the cigarette you're smoking. Honestly, this entire thread is gay and retarded, and everyone participating in it should be given a 30 day global ban, including me.

>>11869842
>nothing about this game [about dreams] resembles [a psychedelic experience]
Agree to disagree.

>>11869857
>DUDE... THE WALLS ARE LIKE, MELTING!!!!
One time I downed 60 robitussin gel caps and had an out of body experience in a black void where a demon that looked like a fly wearing a gas mask appeared and spoke to me in high pitched MIDI tones that I understood as English, while looking at myself through a porthole laying on the bed where I was higg, with my body shifting between an embryonic state and being an old man. This shit is absolutely nothing like doing drugs and you are retarded.

>>11869873
Surreal experiences aren't limited to drug trips, in a dream last night I was trespassing onto a french ski resort where a school trip had gathered, stealing a snowboard I made my way past a marching troup of WW2 soldiers as I was being chased by a man with a clipboard. I escaped through a chain link fence and slid downhill, launching impossibly high off a small ramp, crashing through the skylight of the resort building, and riding down the stairs and up to the reception desk, where I gave my ID. The name on my ID was Dave, which isn't my name.

These dream journal entries are a fascinating read, I have a few more I'll dump.

>>11869842
you have obviously never done drugs in your life.

>>11868916
drug addicts are cringe, but if you've never tried drugs, you're a boring person
this isn't because doing drugs make you interesting, but because interesting people are curious, adventurous, and willing to take risks to gain knowledge and have fresh experiences
like, a coke head is pathetic, but if you've never done a key bump or some shit in your life, your life isn't worth hearing about

>>11871125
I care a lot more about staying healthy and keeping my mental faculties intact as I age than I do about seeming "interesting" to drug users.

>>11871152
yeah, see, it's faggoty coward shit like this that make you a boring person
doing drugs a handful of times over the course of an interesting and adventurous life have precisely zero long-term health effects
the world only really needs about 1 in 10 of the blank grey sheep like yourself that it currently has

>>11871157
Can you tell me why I should care if a drug user thinks I'm 'boring'?

>>11871176
I don't even use drugs lol that's just cope
it doesn't matter if you care, I'm just telling you the facts. interesting people who lead worthwhile lives are by nature curious, adventurous people who don't mind calculated risks in service of fully exploring the world around them. fundamentally incurious, risk-averse cowards like yourself, well, frankly you're useless eaters. if you and everyone like you disappeared tomorrow the world would lose nothing and probably not even notice.

>>11871181
You seem insecure.

>>11871217
weird projection. anyway, enjoy doing whatever people like you do.

>>11871152
I notices how you read the term "addicts" and replied with "users", as if the terms are identical and interchangable. This raises a few questions: Do you consider drug usage as an irredeemable characteristic, have you considered congenital ailments unaffected by drug usage, and are you a Jehovah's Witness?

>>11871152
I noticed how you read the term "addicts" and replied with "users", as if the terms are identical and interchangable. This raises a few questions: Do you consider drug usage as an irredeemable characteristic, have you considered congenital ailments unaffected by drug abstinence, and are you a Jehovah's Witness?

>>11870403
Ummmmm ever heard of ibuprofen? AKA the best drug.

>>11871458
that's not how you spell benadryl. gray man guaranteed

>>11871298
>I noticed how you read the term "addicts" and replied with "users", as if the terms are identical and interchangable
I don't think that. All addicts are users. Not all users are addicts. I used 'users' deliberately for two reasons. First, I was certainly talking to a user, but I couldn't be certain that I was talking to an addict. Second, value judgements made by both groups are equally unimportant to me, so the more inclusive term felt appropriate.

>Do you consider drug usage as an irredeemable characteristic
No.

>have you considered congenital ailments unaffected by drug abstinence
Assuming I understand your question correctly, yes.

>are you a Jehovah's Witness?
No.

....so, seriously, what's up with the fractal shit? Why do we see that when we're tripping? I had a super strong LSD trip once and when I closes my eyes, the fractals were CRAZY, all bright and colorful and endlessly spiraling.
What the fuck is that and why does it feel like you "get the meaning of life" but then slowly forget it because it's hard to write it down in words or concepts?
What's up with all these machine elve shit people talk about? I saw no elf but I did see a joker-like figure (which was like an alter ego of my friend, in my lisergic perception)

>>11871515
>....so, seriously, what's up with the fractal shit? Why do we see that when we're tripping? I had a super strong LSD trip once and when I closes my eyes, the fractals were CRAZY, all bright and colorful and endlessly spiraling.
i ate way too many mushrooms my first time and saw some great rainbow color grids, i think it's just the drugs messing with how your brain interprets incoming signals
also protip for others try not to eat a 1/4 ounce of the shrooms your first time

>>11871157
>I'd rather live a curious life than a muscley one!

>>11871484
>I was certainly talking to a user,
except you certainly weren't lol I haven't taken any drug of any kind in over 15 years

>>11871559
you're retarded if you think the two are mutually exclusive lmfao

>>11871569
I suspect the distinction between "drug user" and "(supposed) ex-drug user who publicly advocates for drug use" is a lot more meaningful to you than it is to me.

>>11871718
you're retarded.

>>11871718
I don't think your crusade to keep your mind sharp is going all that well if there's not much distinction in your mind between someone who currently actively uses drugs and someone who did drugs at least once sometime in the distant past

>>11871223
you are cringe,there is nothing wrong with not taking drugs.
and i say that as someone who did plenty.

>>11871939
Why did you ignore two thirds of the words in "(supposed) ex-drug user who publicly advocates for drug use?" Of course there's a meaningful difference between a current user and an apologetic ex-user. If I didn't think that, I wouldn't have been so specific with my wording. But someone actively advocating for others to use drugs, regardless of whether or not they'd currently pass a drug test, is no better than a current user.

>>11871484
I find it difficult to believe you don't see "user" and "addict" as interchangable when you regard the opinions of recreational psychedelic users and addicted stimulant/opiate users as identical.
>>11871981
The way you're acting makes it seem that a user must be repentant regardless of the substance used, which is why I thought you were a Jehovah's Witness.

>>11872007
No anon there is a thing called physical addiction, alcoholics can actually die from stopping drinking for example

>>11871125
>drug addicts are cringe, but if you've never tried drugs, you're a boring person
fair

>>11872013
>value judgements made by both groups are equally unimportant to me
psychs aren't physically addictive jsyk

>>11871981
yeah, none of that changes anything I said
there is a giant difference between an active drug user and someone who did drugs over a decade ago regardless of what opinion the latter person espouses
frankly you seem like an idiot

>>11871152
you're more than likely an incredible bore who has not seen much of life at all, anyone who thinks drugs are profound or makes their lifestyle or keeps using fucking around with them after their 20s is a looser but the flip side is you are too. Things like driving a car fast, having been in a fight, rock climbing, doing a parachute jump, going scuba diving let alone wilderness exploration or armed confrontation, contact sports or a host of other experiences are also out of your league if you are terminally risk adverse.

You've wasted the years you have on earth and hey are limited. Are drugs some profound thing.? Absolutely not but its a lot of fun when you do them with friends in your 20s and you kissed that. I hope you don't have a realization on your death bed that you never lived because you were too afraid too.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ui-TaOq2gEU

>>11872017
I fucking know that everyone fucking knows that. They are bullshit that makes the ceiling bulge and some meh effects from eye jitter and dilation. Harmless unless you get a group of people who thing they are opening their third eye or some other bullshit and sitting around trying to be deep on it. Can cause psychosis if done too much. Its a fairly shit drug compared to something like MDNA even in terms of the hallucinations. If you make drugs your lifestyle you are turning into a cunt. Definitely thing to do in your early 20s enjoy and leave behind you.

>>11871962
there's nothing wrong with it, and there's nothing right with it
coming into a thread where people are discussing drug use solely to say "boy i'm glad I don't use drugs" like it's a virtue is fucking retarded

>>11872013
alcohol is the only substance that can kill you with withdrawal, anon. it's not the norm across all psychadelics and drugs

>>11871981
>someone actively advocating for others to use drugs, regardless of whether or not they'd currently pass a drug test, is no better than a current user.
this is one of the most flat-fuck retarded things I've ever seen anyone say.

>>11872059
Don't mind him, he seems to have entered a conversation not directed at him

>>11872059
benzodiazepines (e.g. xanax) can also kill through physical withdrawal
i'd be willing to bet GHB can too, given how similar it mechanism it is to alcohol, but who even gets their hands on that shit?

>>11872059
>alcohol is the only substance that can kill you with withdrawal, anon
Untrue many substances are physically addictive and can have catastrophic effects on withdrawal, ranging from constipation to blood pressure, muscle spasms, cramps thought to suicidal idealization

>>11872085
>this is the only thing that kills you
>nuh-uh there are also all these other things that cause discomfort and don't kill you
lmfao. retard

>>11872063
>Don't mind him, he seems to have entered a conversation not directed at him

>>11872063
i mean desu so did i

>>11872089
If something causes suicidal idealization on withdrawal and someone kills themselves then that is lethal. Nod if you understand. SSRIs are one example.

>>11872007
>I find it difficult to believe you don't see "user" and "addict" as interchangable when you regard the opinions of recreational psychedelic users and addicted stimulant/opiate users as identical.
Their value judgements (not opinions wholesale - specifically their understanding of good and bad, right and wrong) are of equal worth to me, because the system of values that informs those judgements are distant from my own to such an extant that they're just straight up incompatible. They differ in many other ways, but the value of their judgements is equally worthless. Similarly, I don't think fundamentalist Muslims and Orthodox Jews are interchangeable, but their hypothetical judgements of me are both equally meaningless. We're just playing totally different games.

>The way you're acting makes it seem that a user must be repentant regardless of the substance used
That's correct. Although "repentant" has religious undertones I'd like to avoid.

>which is why I thought you were a Jehovah's Witness.
I'm not religious.

>>11872027
>>11872060
They're socially corrosive in an almost identical fashion.

>>11872032
Unlike half the people in this thread, I don't measure my worth by how 'exciting' I am. High school is over. Give it a rest.

>>11872098
If you think being pigeonholed into one way of thinking is the way to be for the rest of life, you're pretty stale desu.
>I don't care if I'm not exciting
I don't care if you care. We're playing different games and you're a square.
So why should anyone get our panties into a bunch over it? Shit, you call a former drug-user "socially corrosive" which is practically as cultic as using the word "repentant".
Good people tolerating other good people is what the peak of civilization should be about. Not more "us vs. them" bullcrap.

>>11872096
that is not what is meant by lethal withdrawal and you know it.
if you call someone a mean name and they commit suicide that night because of how upset they are, are you a murderer? of course not, you absolute fucking retard.

>>11872098
i really feel bad for you zoomers (and we all know you are one, your attitudes ITT are nearly exclusive with your generation). i don't know where you got all these overcorrections involving illicit substances but they have been quite pervasive and you've swallowed them up. you're overly obsessed with keeping your body pure and think that a few usages of something will corrupt your body and soul for all time. it really shows not only how ignorant you are of how resilient our bodies are but also how few life experiences you've had.

>>11872098
>They're socially corrosive in an almost identical fashion.
You are absolutely retarded.
You're saying a full-blown method addict is as bad for society as a dude who did drugs in his youth and says "hey, maybe try mushrooms once in your life."
unironically kill yourself and save humanity the intellectual corrosion of suffering your ignorance.

>>11872098
>We're just playing totally different games.
you're playing the same moral game as a religious fundamentalist. you just dont have the excuse of delusional belief in a higher power to back up your play.

boy I sure love retro video games

>>11872058
>coming into a thread where people are discussing drug use solely to say "boy i'm glad I don't use drugs" like it's a virtue is fucking retarded
it is a virtue tho,Jesus say to be sober-minded.

>>11872147
Jesus turned water into wine, homie.

>>11872147
Jesus drank wine. shut the fuck up.

>>11872154
>>11872150
so do i,i just dont get drunk.

>>11871152
In the words of a far wiser man than yourself:
>Life should not be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside in a cloud of smoke, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming "Wow! What a Ride!

>>11872159
yea get used up (raped) and tell me about it.

>>11872158
alcohol affects you whether you drink a little or a lot.
your lord caught a buzz now and then. deal with it

>>11872161
>what if I grossly misinterpret the quote haha what then
you're retarded.

>>11872119
>So why should anyone get our panties into a bunch over it?
I really don't know. All I did was say "this thread is making me glad I've never done drugs." I'm not sure why that's a provocative statement.

>you call a former drug-user "socially corrosive"
I'd never apply that term to an ex-user who wasn't actively advocating for others to do drugs. That's what I have a problem with. Someone who's turned another leaf is perfectly okay in my book. Encouraging narcotics use isn't.

>Good people tolerating other good people is what the peak of civilization should be about.
Sorry, I'm just not a 'tolerance' kind of guy.

>>11872131
>You're saying a full-blown method addict is as bad for society as a dude who did drugs in his youth and says "hey, maybe try mushrooms once in your life."
That is in fact what I'm saying, yes.

>>11872137
>you're playing the same moral game as a religious fundamentalist.
I don't think drug users are 'immoral.' They're just actively harmful to their host states, and thereby everyone else in them.

>>11872159
My idea of fun is playing video games, cooking, going on hikes, and studying. Y'know, things well adjusted adults enjoy. Not everyone is psychologically trapped at seventeen like you lot seem to be.

>>11872180
>That is in fact what I'm saying, yes.
You are completely retarded.
Again, in all sincerity: kill yourself.
Your continued existence is intellectually corrosive to the entire human race.

>>11872205
No thanks. I plan on outliving all of you badass rock n' rollers :^)

>>11872180
You're a virgin aren't you?

>>11872180
>My idea of fun is playing video games, cooking, going on hikes, and studying. Y'know, things well adjusted adults enjoy. Not everyone is psychologically trapped at seventeen like you lot seem to be.
Imagine how fucked up your life will become when you realize a lot of games, studies, and recipes are written by people who've experienced drugs and feel more in tune with what's right and what's wrong.
Pandora's Box is opened more and more every day as society progresses, and yet good people are born in these climates. People clinging to virtues of an aging past are not intrinsically better than anyone. You are not holier than anyone, and in return, nobody is holier than thou. Really weird of you to say tolerance is "not your thing", sounds like psychopath shit. Victims of humanity's innate evil are not barred from becoming good people themselves.

>>11872180
>my idea of fun is... studying
Holy fuck you're a boring person lol

>>11872209
Good luck :) Longevity naturally runs in my family, multiple centegenerians in my direct line. You on the other hand will probably choke on a piece of dry toast while doing your taxes, probably age 57 or so.
Seriously though. Kill yourself.

>>11872212
he is, and he's going to pretend it's by choice, but it absolutely is not

>>11872212
No. However, I did first have sex somewhat later than average (19). I'm currently married.

>>11872213
>Imagine how fucked up your life will become...
I will never recover from this...

>Really weird of you to say tolerance is "not your thing", sounds like psychopath shit.
I don't think we should tolerate the proliferation of self and socially destructive vices, especially when they disproportionately effect communities that are already struggling. Users need to be helped, not tolerated. If that's psychopathic, then baby, chuck me in the loony bin.

>>11872216
That seems preferable to the alternative on offer here.

>>11872213
>Imagine how fucked up your life will become when you realize a lot of games, studies, and recipes are written by people who've experienced drugs and feel more in tune with what's right and what's wrong.
lmao,more in touch with right or wrong.
drug really messed up your brain.

>>11872274
I do not believe for one second that you have ever so much as touched a woman, much less had sex, never mind gotten married

>>11872283
Who said I had sexo with a woman :^)

>>11872291
yeah i guess sex is just another drug, it just releases harmful endorphins on your brain and makes you impure, never breed

>>11872291
>I oppose social degradation!
>being a faggot is okay though
now that you've exposed yourself for a hypocrite, you're basically done here

>>11872304
There's nothing hypocritical about my desire for the West to more closely resemble Taiwan, Singapore, and Japan.

>>11872323
>two utter shitholes and the most repressed, racist country on earth, which hasn't had a good economy since the 80s
wow so aspirational
Psilocybin mushrooms were legal and widely used in Japan until 2002 by the way

>>11872332
>Psilocybin mushrooms were legal and widely used in Japan until 2002 by the way
And now they're not! Looks like progress to me, baby!

>>11872098
>the system of values that informs those judgements are distant from my own to such an extent* that they're just straight up incompatible
Recreation is not distant from your values, otherwise you wouldn't seek any recreation whatsoever. Addiction is distant from your values because you don't justify hurting people for the sake of recreation. They're different, and you know it.

>"repentant" has religious undertones I'd like to avoid.
That's my entire point. Puritan is as puritan does.

>>11872346
>And now they're not!
They continue to be widely used in the regions they naturally grow, you can even purchase them as a gaijin if you know how and where to ask

>>11872402
>Recreation is not distant from your values, otherwise you wouldn't seek any recreation whatsoever.
Recreation in of itself isn't misaligned with my values. There are types of recreation, however, that are. Recreational drug use being one of them.

>They're different, and you know it.
Are the addict's values more different from my own than the user's? Yes. But using narcotics in any capacity represents a difference in values large enough for the user's judgements to be incompatible with my own. Passed a certain threshold of difference, judgements become equally worthless. And both the addict and the user pass that threshold. The addict might go a little further. But a little further past "incompatible to the point of unintelligibility" means nothing.

>That's my entire point. Puritan is as puritan does.
I get the sense you'd consider all anti-drug position to be intrinsically puritanical, so I don't think I'll bother pushing back on this.

>>11872430
I hope this is rectified soon.

>>11867627
>not a great drug
what is a great drug then?

/vr/ - Drug discussion.

>>11872346
they only changed the law to appease gaijin international law, behavior has not changed. people still regularly use mushrooms there.

>>11872547
that dude is too retarded to benefit from acid. acid and psilocybin are great drugs. MDMA is a great drug if you can keep your use to like once a year. cocaine is a great drug to use once in your life, coadministered with alcohol of choice.
alcohol ironically is one of the shittiest drugs there is.

shit thread. play eastern mind.

>>11872556
didn't ask

>>11872560
the person i'm responding to quite literally did ask.
I guess I see why you're so terrified of drugs damaging your intellect. you have so little to spare as it is.

>>11872537
Recreation results in the production of dopamine, oxytocin, serotonin, and endorphins no matter what activity you choose, it's all drug seeking behavior. It's how our bodies regulate. What matters is moderation, avoiding addictions that disrupt moderate behavioral patterns that allow a regular life. Work addiction, food addiction, sex addiction, drug addiction. it's all the same. The fact you can't distinguish between healthy and unhealthy regulation speaks to your understanding.

"Everything in moderation, including moderation" - Oscar Wilde

>>11872567
>the person i'm responding to quite literally did ask
i asked that specific guy, not you.
>I guess I see why you're so terrified of drugs damaging your intellect
i think they actually HAVE damaged your brain because i never said that. this is my second post in the whole thread. you retard

>>11872571
Oscar Wilde was a tremendous faggot

>>11872579
>wahhh I asked a question in public and someone answered it
do zoomers really

>>11872537
>I don't think I'll bother pushing back on [anti-drug position to be intrinsically puritanical]
Thanks for tacitly agreeing, but learn what words mean before engaging with them, please. Puritans considered all pleasure to be socially corrosive.

>>11872580
So is everyone who posts on chans. Your point?

>>11872593
that wasn't meant as an insult

>>11872604
Your point was wanting him to fuck you??

>>11872623
if you would turn down Oscar Wilde, you're a fag.

>>11872626
i'm just asexual, man

>>11860697 (OP)
Yes

>>11867861
You're just being ironic typing your post out like a raving drunk, right?

How is this thread still up lol

>>11873180
Tranny jannies are all drug addicts.

>>11873180
The janny is a satoschizo, xhe leaves garbage threads up if they’re about games xhe likes
Sato himself is based though, he scammed his retarded fanbase with NFTs and the tranny seething was endless

>>11873180
>>11869824

Same

>>11860752
ok, velma

>>11869938
I want a copy of this book, this is the one that came with the special edition of the game, right?

>>11875121
That's right. I want one too, it's a fun read with lots of cool artwork. There's scans online, but it's not as good as having the real thing.

>>11867868
can't wait until you cunts have to provide a photo id to post on this website because of the stupid turbochristian faggot government you voted for lol

>>11867868
>lsd is a fun game
lol poser, it's barely a fucking game, try experiencing things firsthand rather than through the eyes of whatever shitbrain streamer/youtuber you get all your opinions from

>>11876319
it's fun the way exploring the woods behind your neighborhood is fun. LSD is about wandering around and taking it all in.
if you're a midwit I can see how that wouldn't be appealing.

>>11876312
That's not going to be due to christianity lol

>>11876423
all the nanny state restrictions on websites in the past several years have been in red states

>>11876453
I'd be more worried about all the roving cracked out homeless people and decriminalisation of really heinous shit

>>11876457
lol what does this have to do with websites containing adult content requiring a photo id to use? i hope they put a link to it next to your posts so i can put the laughable face to the laughable post
also america already decriminalized all its really heinous shit, hell you're about to collectively decide that epstein did nothing wrong otherwise your mad god stops dreaming and your trucks become reasonably sized or something

gay ass unrelated thread. kill yourselves.

>>11871152
Don't drink caffeine, alcohol, or eat cooked food wrapped in tin foil then.

>>11876487
I'm not American lol

>>11872549
Video games have always been influenced by drug trips.

>>11860752
bot post

>>11876532
Satoschizo janny is determined to leave this thread up because xhe thinks it will give xis trannycord meme game more exposure

>>11876457
>but but what about [thing no one is talking about]!!
concession accepted

>>11876609
why are you ban evading?

>>11876609
>makes fun of discord
>while posting discord screenshot

>>11871152
clearly you care about seeming interesting. you injected yourself into a thread about drugs just to say "look at me I don't do drugs"

This is a fun game to get lost in.

>>11876625
Why are you leaving up shit threads
>>11876639
It’s from Saint’s cord, newfag. If you know you know

>>11876609
the fact you understand the words in that screenshot and think you're not the problem is hilarious

No, but it enhances the experience of playing it.

>>11865932
>>11867145
>no response
Did you read the paper from David E Nichols or was your assertion from another source?

Figures

This game feels nothing like LSD. LSD sets your pareidolia wild, causing you to constantly reinterpret the same stimuli. Only tried it once, taking a couple tabs staggered an hour apart in my brother's friend's basement. Genuinely the best drug I have ever tried, even considering the worst parts when I was trying to sleep in an unfamiliar room with a sleeping bag and people snoring. Even coming off of it was pleasant as the extra saturation smoothly faded away over several hours.
I'm gonna just dump some random screenshots from playing the game.

i never understood if LSD dream em has some kind of deep underlaying mechanics going on or if everything that happens is just random. sometimes feels like the game is tailor-made to give a specifically weird experience on each playthrough, sometimes it makes no fucking sense how it flows

>>11880075
i think people hard-boiled the events of LSD Dream Simulator down to a science. you can trigger any event by following a guide. but it's such kusoge i never went and confirmed it for myself, this game still justs exists off the early youtuber fad of yore, for me.

What the FUCK was his problem?

>>11880158
hey it's my friend that shows up when i'm about to fall asleep

So tried this game out a bit around 2012 or so and I got really bored after a few hours. Should I have pushed on and played for ten or so? I have no idea if I missed something or if I didn’t play it enough for it to click with me. This game gets memes and brought up so frequently it makes me feel like perhaps I quit too early.


My issue with it was that I had no idea where to go, and while the idea is to explore, I would end up getting lost and looping into the same areas or instances frequently not seeing anything new. Idk if there is a way to keep track of your progress or not in this game but it felt like to “see everything’s there are many areas you would need to go through like 20-50 times.

>>11882778
It's not a game you play in the conventional sense, it's basically an environment explorer and how far you get into it mostly depends on how much you like the concept. It's a game I like to play when I don't really want to play anything else.

>>11882798
I understand but I guess my question is how much is there to see or find in the game? I kept seeing the same shit over and over and maybe I was doing something wrong I have no idea. I didn’t know how to make sure I wasn’t triggering the same shit repeatedly

Calm

>>11883457
I couldn't answer that because I've avoided most of the cult and fanbase surrounding it who have blown the game open and looked for everything in it, so I was always just try to have completely organic play sessions on it. At the end of the day, it's an independent PlayStation game from 1998, you have to view it in context, it's most likely not going to have secrets upon secrets upon secrets. It COULD, but this era of games in retrospect are all quite limited, and if you're hitting the point of diminishing returns then there's probably not going to be anything else in it to convince you otherwise.

>>11860752
>My boyfriend
Kill yourself.

No it is not. Psychedelics are more about the different thought patterns and psychotic / delusional thoughts you get than the visuals or imaginary worlds. It's more "oh man, I should've connected more with X, or I should tell Y how much I appreciate them." It's also not about opening your mind to the doors of perception or any of that egotistical bs.
t. used to be a bit of a mycologist myself.

>>11860752
>My boyfriend
Fucking kill yourself.

Sure

>>11876585
Fuck you

>>11886347
Whoa dude what a normal reaction

>>11887763
>just have a heckin' normal one and touch some grass

>>11887916
You're such a fag dude

>>11882778
>>11882798
>>11883457
I know it's frowned upon 'round these parts, but RetroAchievements helps. Keeps track of what you've seen, and you can look ahead to what's still undiscovered without ruining how to find it all.

>>11889359
It is kind of ruining it because you actually know what there is to see. That's not what dreams are like at all

>>11889384
>You found the green fish in the Osaka district.
>…or whatever
Oh no! Spoiler alert!!!

>>11889406
>cares more about completion than the premise
It's more fun to discover things on your own but hey, you can always watch a youtube video and get all the content asap

>>11889443
More people need to play games blind again, there's too much asking where to go and what to do.

>>11889575
fact is everything's been done and people just can't enjoy themselves if they don't feel like a blind crusader. that's the fun of playing blind imo, just takes longer and some don't got the patience

Moves all the way