Thread 11864063

>drops one of the hypest fighting games of its era
>disappears

Why'd they do it?

I love this game, but the gameplay itself is not fluid. 2 really improved on this, but the addition of the weird human/god characters ruins the theme.

I hate to say this... but it really needs an extended remaster.

>>11864063 (OP)
Not to tell you your business, but I'm not sure I agree. I mean, you showed me that arcade cab, and from what I saw...and this is just my humble opinion. From what I saw on that screen...hype? Not so much.

I mean, there was no balance, no real depth in that gameplay. So to my eye, all this "hype" looks like nothing more than simple rote copying. Probably of some other fighting game. Believe me, I've played enough fighters to know.

Ah...this "hype" of yours...maybe...the real gem is still out there?

>>11864072
It's still pretty amazing that it was one of the earliest fighting games to have a built-in combo system, before even Killer Instinct.

>>11864084
>I mean, there was no balance, no real depth in that gameplay.
It wasn't unbalanced. And it was pretty deep, despite the nature of its gimmicky overall appearance. Had tech traps, air juggles, dizzy meter, combo chains, with each character having their unique playstyle, and had buffering and canceling with its hold-input mechanics.

You're simply too scrub to get it.

>>11864101
Why are you responding seriously to a reference to a TV show?

>Midway bought out the devs and then forced them to rush it out
how extremely lame. not familiar with Primal Rage but it does look pretty ludo; not all games have to be super deep or whatever, sometime it's nice to have retarded fun
surprised no indie devs have tried to recreate these kinda games like Killer Instinct, Primal Rage or MK. they'd probably have to use 3D models instead of real-life people or stopmotion though

https://youtu.be/7lQCd6sP7DY?si=92JQXJTKhOcy1nyh

>>11864135
Because I currently have nothing better to do right now?

Doing the puppets was tiring. Tough to top it.

>>11864063 (OP)
Time Warner sold their entire video games segment (Atari Games) to WMS Industries (Midway).

>hypest
>hold A+B+D and push UP, LEFT, LEFT, RIGHT, release A, push LEFT, and then release B to let out a puny fart
Awesome.

>>11864253
The actual input is
>Hold 2+3 D, F, U, B

>>11864253
I appreciate that they were trying to do something different, but yes the special move system is very awkward. Maybe that was the intent, to limit their usage and separate them from traditional combos. Apparently there's a later revision which changes special inputs to match more traditional fighting game styles.

>>11864263
The only thing they did different was having you hold 2 inputs while you put in the directionals.

>>11864263
All things considered, this was still pretty early in the genre, like the second wave of games post SFII. They didn't really know what would stick and what wouldn't, so devs tried to get different hoping to find the next big thing and not be a total clone

>>11864263
the japanese release changed the input to be SF-like, but i wouldn't call it better. The whole point is thight excecution, you know, what MK/KI were doing.

>>11864263
>>11864546
>>11864523
What the fuck are you all talking about? The special moves are easier to pull off and do not have as tight of execution specifically because they are hold to execute. You just throw in the directionals and they come out.

>>11864253
This retard has no idea what he's talking about.

>>11864224
>Doing the puppets was tiring. Tough to top it.

Idk but It always remembers me how amazing was gaming before 3D slop. There were a lot of different techniques and approaches for making stuff.

>>11864569
Fighting games are a hit or miss, you will never get used to subpar controls no matter how it looks the hits have to be inmediate or delay on purpose all moves sort of delay simply breaks the gameplay, why animation done correctly struggles against one frame hadoukens

>>11864567
I know how they work, I was saying why it's different. I don't think they're easier though, but I learned to play with SFII and MK so, it just felt unnatural to me to hold action buttons then put in direction inputs

PR was pretty so-so but PR2 looked like it had serious potential. That seems like the greater missed opportunity.

>>11864063 (OP)
I love the beast god lore and aesthetic of this game in combination with the mortal kombat style brutality. It blew my mind as a kid. This IP is so ripe for more content i'm extremely surprised it hasn't been touched since the abandoned sequel.

>>11864567
this guy is the usual scrub who cries at charge characters and claims they are broken.

>>11864063 (OP)
We will never have accurate emulation of this game. Sad. The MAME devs would rather waste time dumping and emulating cpap machine firmware.

>>11865168
wdym

>>11864576
That's basically any genre

>>11864063 (OP)
My bros and I got the toys when I was in 1st grade, I didn't know that they came from a game until like 20 years later reading /vr/. Had this one.

>>11865423
the toys were made from the actual models they used to make the game, which destroyed them. kinda cool makes the figures like a real piece of history

>>11864063 (OP)
There's something so based about games like this. I wish the Jaguar wasn't so expensive now because it seems like the holy grail of based Ameritrash fighting games

>>11864063 (OP)
Atari

>>11865423
I had them all including the 2 from the second game
I still have 3 or 4 of them

>>11865262
The protection for the game is undefeated. Falling through the floor randomly, blood color glitches, etc. Even official releases of the arcade version have these issues. The only way to accurately play the game is to play on a real arcade board.

Was Primal Rage actually fun?
I had the Genesis port back then and I found it boring gameplay-wise. Not even on the same level as MK, and much worse than KI (which I think, at the time, was the only actually good western developed fighting game)

>>11867146
PR was incredible, but all it's ports are terrible, even the PSX one. The only decent was the saturn one, but still doesn't do it justice, unleas you had access to an arcade you were simply missing out.

>>11865168
MAME had a dude on the case but then he died. Nobody is ready to step in.

>>11867191
The PC version was pretty good. The controls just suck though.

>>11864063 (OP)
Was too expensive to make and wasnt a nig seller like Street Fighter or Mortal Kombat.

>>11864072
The game felt slow and even more like button mashing.
The Avatars really was a weird idea. But probably they felt with that mild success that they needed something to set them apart from SF and MK.

>>11867146
Only played the Super Famicom one. It was fun for a short while. Because it felt clunky and slow.

>>11867146
UMK3 played better than KI though

it was basically just another shock value fighter. it was fun but i really only played it in the arcade and rented a home version once or twice. it didnt have staying power like mortal kombat because the characters were monsters without much personality i guess.

>>11864063 (OP)
this game sucked ass.

>>11867954
Apparently the characters that people picked the most were Blizzard and Chaos which made the devs believe that the dinosaurs weren't popular. It's why they decided to go with avatars in the sequel.

>>11867970
>the characters were monsters without much personality
this isn't true, each monster has it's own unique ending and profile to understand their motivations.

>>11868095
sounds like bullshit, if that was the case then just add more apes

>>11868102
That's what the game designer Chris Tang said in his Primal Rage 2 post mortem. Less humanoid characters weren't popular because players preferred characters that could hit with their arms and legs than bites and tail swipes.

>>11868117
they should've added more apes
>fire ape
>robo ape
>two headed ape
>girl ape

>>11868215
noooooooooooooooooooo way

>>11868095
>>11868117
Weird. Cant believe that too. But how did Talon do? And why not make them more human like Slashfang?
Or is this just an excuse to insert lewd female characters?

>>11868117
Sounds about right. Animal fighting, particularly dinosaurs, should be appealing, but I think you start getting into cock fighting territory.

>>11867954
IIRC, you could choose to play as the avatar or the animal version, and then you could combo into the one you didn't pick.

>>11868117
>>11870565
Well it didn't help that the apes were better than the majority of the rest of the characters. Sauron was the only one who performed better than Blizzard or Chaos.

>>11870578
Still it clashed with the animal form.

>>11870583
I thought Vertigo was interesting.

>>11867961
isn't that the thing that lead a Karen to get that game pulled from stores?

>>11869942
ninja ape

>>11871415
is it bad enough I know exactly where that image is from?

>>11871417
nothing wrong in liking the DKC movie from the 90s

>>11871423
"George just lucky I guess."

>>11872456
>there are people itt unironically defending this shit

>>11872490
It looks cool, no chi faggot

>>11872490
You got it wrong. Some of the devs who worked on PR2 went over to Rare to work on KI2.

>>11872503
that makes more sense.
Good for them, all the work wasn't a complete waste of time then.

>>11864063 (OP)
I enjoyed PR, replay it every now and then on emulator. Maybe it was for the better they didnt go with PR2, I didnt like the whole giant human version of the dinosaurs gimmick they were planning to go with but I loved the first one. Unrelated but I also liked Weaponlord, not sure how combining the two could have or would have even worked but, that crossed my mind for some reason.

I was always puzzled by Blizzard though, of all the 'elemental' allingments we got(Diablo/fire, Chaos/physical-gases-bodily excretions..if thats even an element kek,Vertigo/poison, Sauron/radioactivity?) I just never could imagine how Blizzard produces cold. Something like an endothermic chemical reaction going on in his gut or something? It was my favorite one of the apes, then Armadon, Vertigo and Talon.

>>11872550
I wanna lick her pussy

>>11875162
Pussy lickage status: Not happening

>>11875162
>>11875168
Is this wha they added more female characters?for the gooning?

>>11864063 (OP)
Primal Rage came out too late (in consoles at least) when the fighting genre was already oversaturated and dying. It had decent success but by the time a sequel would've come out is when all the big name fighting games were already struggling to be relevant. Had it come out a year or two before we could've had another sequel. People forget how quickly the fighting genre died.

>>11875162
this but her dino form

>>11864546
The Japanese release had different inputs? Odd, i have the PS1 port and the moves are the same.

>>11876936
arcade

>>11872456
>I GET MY OPINIONS FROM YOUTUBE!!!

Every Time.

>>11867191
What the hell is the whole deal with the arcade versions vs the ports?

>>11867954
>The Avatars really was a weird idea. But probably they felt with that mild success that they needed something to set them apart from SF and MK.

If I recall correctly there's an interview from a few years back in which they said that they saw that the most played character on all the cabinets was the monkey and came to the conclusion that people preferred humanoid characters over the dinosaurs.