Why wasn't this game a PlayStation 2 exclusive?

>>11874736 (OP)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capcom_Five

>>11874736 (OP)
Because Mikami thought the PS2 hardware was garbage and didn’t even want to port RE4 to it in the first place

Because you touch yourself at night

>>11874736 (OP)
>Why did they give people a superior port as an alternative option?

>>11874736 (OP)
Game sounded like shit on PS2.

Gamecube version is better and should've been a Nintendo exclusive for that gen.

>>11874836
>Gamecube version is better and should've been a Nintendo exclusive for that gen.
Then Resident Evil would have been dead like Silent Hill was.

>>11874842
>if it wasn't for shitty version of RE4, the whole series would've been dead.

No. Just no.

Because it was developed for the Gamecube

>>11874741
Mikami does what the bosses tell him and the bosses signed an exclusivity deal with Nintendo.

>The handshake that saved the Resident Evil series

Wii version was the best by far

>>11874736 (OP)
Just played and beat this for the first time yesterday. The HD version on Steam. I loved it. The Castle escort with Ashley was unpleasant but the rest was good. Wish the jet ski are at the end was cinematic because I died a few times and took me out of the moment. Introducing a whole new machanie literally for the last minute of the game was dumb.

>>11874736 (OP)
The game sold horribly on gamecube, it was about to be written off as a total loss for Capcom and they were going to have to file for bankruptcy. Projected sales were in the toilet so they hastily announced the PS2 version before it launched and the gamecube version ended up selling like dog milk. The PS2 version ended up being insanely profitable and saved the company.

Playstation won. This should have been a PS2 exclusive

>>11874878
So Nintendo saved RE and led the franchise to jump the shark turning it into normie horror shit.

It should have been ported to Xbox and that's it. No other game exposes PS2's weak ass hardware like RE4.

>>11875070
>It should have been ported to Xbox and that's it. No other game exposes PS2's weak ass hardware like RE4.

Dreamcast port would have been pretty kino

Because capcom loves money.

>It's made the Gamecube look, like an Xbox!
No, it made it look better. Popping this into your gamecube felt better than popping your first pussy, especially if you weren't allowed to play M games so you played it at your buddy's house whose parents didn't give a shit. When you reach the village and there are 8-10 ganados swarming you you knew this game was something special.

>>11874986
>turning it into normie horror shit
Yeah as opposed to classic RE, the epitome of sophisticated anti-normie horror

>>11875078
RE4 actually feels like it was designed for the Dreamcast with its controls.

>>11874842
No, but I can assure you RE5 would have been a very different game if not for the insane sales of the PS2 version.

resident evil 4
a horse with no name

>>11875661
Never thought about this but definitely agree

>>11874897
now get it on the gamecube and play on a CRT. Peak re4 experience

>>11875971
I did. A nice experience, but the letterboxing sucks

>>11874910
>here's my headcanon
ok

>>11874741
we know mikami is a hack. no need to reinforce the idea.

>>11874889
playing it on dolphin with gyro is excelent.

>>11874736 (OP)
>Nintendo almost killed Resident Evil.
>Microsoft killed Dino Crisis
Fuck nintendo and fuck microsoft.
You should never make exclusivity deals with literal retards of the industry.

>>11874910
Why would you lie on the internet?
>The GameCube version sold over 320,000 copies in North America during the first twenty days. The European release sold its entire 200,000 copies during the first month. By December 2005, 3 million copies of the GameCube and PlayStation 2 versions had been shipped worldwide.[203][204] According to January 17, 2007 sales figures provided by Capcom, the GameCube version of Resident Evil 4 had sold a total of 1.6 million copies worldwide, while the PS2 version had sold over 2 million copies.
Basically PS2 RE4 only sold about 400k more units. Pathetic when you consider the immense installbase the console had compared to Gamecube.

>>11876302
Dino Crisis was always shit however

>>11876309
The first one was good

>>11876305
People didn’t use their PS2s to play games, anon

>>11876305
Ahh, I thought the PS2 version had sold twice as much at least.

>>11876305
It's weird wikipedia editors haven't updated the PS2 sales numbers on the article for the game.

>>11876429
>RE4 is supposed to be the normification of RE, the most popular entry catering to mainstream audiences and the death of the series according to /vr/
>GC and PS2 versions combined still sold less than RE1 or RE2 on PS1 alone

>>11876440
The reputation of Resident Evil was shattered at this point.

>>11876440
I think genre demands also changed. In the 90s people were excited to play something like RE or SH. In the 2000s people were drawn to others genres. I read that SH2 and SH3 didn't even sell that much, a while back.

>>11876362
Many people (normies) that owned PS2s just played sports games, GTA, generic FPS/TPS games and licensed (movie) games.

>>11875656
>It's made the Gamecube look, like an Xbox!

Nobody said this, ESL.

>>11876519

>>11876526
Is this the Gamecube version? It looks upscaled, I legitimately don't remember it looking that good and I replayed it like 2 years ago on an actual console

>>11876531
I found it in the archives.

>>11876542
This is gorgeous. RE4 has top tier visual design and atmosphere even though it's not considered real survival horror

>>11876548
RE4 is arguably the best looking game of its generation.

>>11874736 (OP)
>Why wasn't this game a PlayStation 2 exclusive?
It was.

>>11876584
RE4 versions
>real
DMC1
>realer
RE4 (2005)
>the realest
Haunting Ground

>>11874736 (OP)
4resident evil is a terrible game.

>>11874986
RE1 sold 5 million copies on the Playstation. RE2 did almost 6 million. That's as normie as you possibly can get. Where did you retards ever get this stupid fucking idea that Resident Evil was some obscure, niche series before 4 came along?

>>11876548
it very much is survival horror. Don't let reddit and xitter fags tell you otherwise

Mikami promised auto-decapitation if RE4 was ever ported from the GameCube.

>>11874741
So why was Godhand a PS2 exclusive?

>>11874736 (OP)
Resident Evil is a PlayStation franchise, the game SHOULD have been a PlayStation exclusive.

>>11876923
that is a trick statement.
the game was never ported from the gc.
the ps2 version was already in development, so not a port.
the wii version didn't need to be ported since wii can run gc code without modification, it's just the gc version with extras. it's an enhanced version, not a port.
all other versions are ports of ps2 or wii, not gc. thus, bypassing the condition.

>>11874736 (OP)
Capcom is a whore and always was a whore.
Spreading their legs wide for every platform they deem worthy,
"Exclusive", my ass.

>>11877079
what is this affliction called?

>>11876923
So to my knowledge this has always been a mistranslation, and when put in proper context essentially meant "I am going to resign from capcom" which he did almost right after RE4. Then again I'm not a weeb who can understand nipponese so who knows.

>>11877129
Why the fuck would they ever go exclusive when everyone wants their games? What loyalty does Capcom owe to Nintendo or Sony when the former treats 3rd party developers like shit and the latter depended on 3rd party to even exist?

>>11874736 (OP)
Not good enough

>>11874861
ps2 had good resident evil games but no one talks about them. re4 saved the franchise. but the monkey paw is that most games after re4 have sucked anyway. re4 was a 10/10 game but not the best resident evil game. instead of maintaining everything as it was in re4 they amped it up more in re5 and went full retard and its basically been a meme franchise since then. IMO dead rising 1 is a better resident evil game than re5. (think about it) and i think if they really wanted to bring resident evil back they should do something inspried by the outbreak series.

>>11874949
playstation by todays standards is a 10/10 console but as far as that generation goes it had flaws the other consoles didnt and i view it as the NPC console.

>most games
>but also cheapest to get games published on
>basically non existent quality control anything gets passed through
>basically the same as the apple app store
>games look like shit compared to the other consoles
>had dvd functionality
>exponentially increases sales but not because of games but its a dvd player the cheapest in fact but it also plays games so timmy can use it too
>basically the first console to start with the bullshit concept of it being a home entertainment system leading to where we are today
it was probably the most soulless of all 3 consoles and didnt really even have an identity. xbox had a brand image and a sort of game you expected, gamecube had its own image and its own sort of games you expected, ps2 didnt really have any sort of brand image you could articulate to anyone and it basically was just the everything melting pot machine

again compared to today its a 10/10 machine and i like all 3 consoles from that gen but even when i was younger i recognized it was soulless compared to the xbox and gamecube. you had to sift through mountains of shit to find a good game on it. but it has a large amount of good games on it the other consoles never got. but again this is why it reminds me of the apple app store or some kind of steam ecosystem.

>>11875656
when i played resident evil 4 for myself the first time it scared the fucking shit out of me and whenever i got caught by the chainsaw guy i would literally reset the gamecube because the death animation while the controller vibrated was WAY too much for me.( i was pretty young)

the gamecube was a fine machine and the only people i ever met IRL who made fun of it were one or two that guy nerds who werent really liked by anyone and the occasional douchebag frat bro type who basically only talked about women and football. people who actually just liked games usually had at least a few games the console had they they liked or admitted looked like fun even if they didnt own the console.

growing up our friend group had an xbox and a gamecube we cycled through toegther taking turns playing games and later an xbox 360. we had a guy in our group that owned a ps2 and he never bitched when we played the xbox or the gamecube.

A more interesting question: why wasn't pic related developed for the PS1?
>>11881078
>ps2 had good resident evil games but no one talks about them
I love Dead Aim but have never played Outbreak because I've heard playing those games solo is frustrating as fuck
>its basically been a meme franchise since then
I don't like all of the RE engine shit myself but the series is now more popular than ever. It's unironically bigger now than during the PS1 days, normalfags fucking love that shit man
Gameplay-wise RE5 is as fun as 4 if you have a friend to play it with but the atmosphere and art design is absolute ass.

>>11881093
>xbox had a brand image and a sort of game you expected
I'll take this opportunity to say that JSR Future feels 100% like a Gamecube game

>>11876548
re4 is a beautiful game. a big part of that has to do with what the gamecube was capable of because it had good lighting for the time. even luigis mansion had good lighting. it was good at making things have a soft glow not in the bloom style of the 360 where it overpowered everything, but a clean smooth ethereal dreamlike sort of look. (if the game desired to do it) which was good at making atmospheric dark areas look aesthetically pleasing. im sure the xbox could have done the same thing but it just wasnt possible on ps2. everything on that console looks compressed and pixelated and no amount of art direction can compensate for it. its like how the DS looks in 3d games but those games look impressive and crisp when you see someone upload emulated footage. you can see the details that never would have been viewable on the original hardware.

>>11878675
i think back then it was easier to make a good game just targeting one system or 2 because you didnt have to figure out radically different console architecture. if you made something that could run decently on all 3 you probably had to make compromises you didnt want to make and water things down to accommodate the weaknesses of each console. that sounds pretty fucking lame. by making a console exclusive you can pick the console which plays to the strengths of the vision you have for your title. today all consoles are pretty similar so its a moot point. the alternative to making a game which runs well on all 3 consoles would be to change a game considerably for each console but then you basically have a game with 3 very different versions and thats weird and most people dont find that appealing.

>>11881119
yeah sure but you are arguing the overwhelming exception to the rule. you arent actually a retard are you? come on now. when people talked about the xbox they were not thinking about colorful cell shaded dancing characters. its like how when you talked about the gamecube you werent thinking of people getting their head chopped off (re4). you could articulate the gamecube brand and the xbox brand in a pretty tangible way to people but it would be very difficult to do that for the ps2.

>>11881136
Yeah I know I'm just mentioning one of the exceptions like RE4

>>11881107
dead aim looks fun ive never played it. outbreak file 2 is the only one i played and i did find it frustrating to play but also rewarding and a very memorable experience. i would just say you will lose the first time you play a level, and you will probably beat it the second or third time you do it.

its fundamental flaw it has is that the health system is also a timer because your character is already infected. because the maps are large and you lose time the more you get attacked, its easy to run out of time and die and get a game over. but once you replay the level once or twice ( i think the timer was an hour or so) you will win. i personally rate it above re1 remake and re5 but below re4.

>more pipular than its ever been
tough to talk about this one objectively. im pretty sure there are like 3 times as more potential customers for a game today because of population growth and more countries also having access to games digitally. what was a smash hit in the 2000s would seem much smaller today and most people never keep that in mind.

i also think that they watered it down into something that isnt very memorable or interesting so im not surprised more people buy it but that is what every major franchise seems to have done in the last decade+.

i watched my friends play re5 and it really seemed lame and stupid to me coming off the heels of re4. i personally played half of it with a buddy and got bored and never played it again.yes i agree the atmosphere and the art design is ass but thats precisely half of why re4 leaves such an impression on people. there are many places in re4 where you stop and just take the scenery in. and its in the attention to detail where sometimes its in a mundane area like a tiny house with beams of sunlight coming through illuminating the dust in the room. re5 felt like a slop game. whatever the fuck it was they were going for in re5 people could just get a better experience playing something else like gears of war etc

>>11881142
i see sorry if i came off aggro im used to people on here using dishonest arguing tactics

>>11881107
>why wasn't pic related developed for the PS1?

Had it released on N64, it would probably have been ported to PSX a year after.

>>11874736 (OP)
Because it was on Gamecube first.

>>11874861
I'm pretty sure the PS2 version sold almost a million more than the Gamecube version. Even if Mikami hated it, it helped the franchise stay relevant until RE5 came about.

>>11881078
Dead Rising is the definitive Resident Evil 2 game.

>>11881616
I think people forget how relevant the GameCube version was it was never not relevant. There were resident evil 4 figure in Spencer’s (novelty store) in my mall and hot topic. On MTV they played a flash animation from egoraptor which was his RE4 short. all my friends liked the game. different groups of friends not just one. At the time it felt like everyone was talking about it or at least knew what it was.

>>11882303
Someone should make a HUNK mod where you get flown in as hunk from resident evil but your task is to just eliminate everything. Maybe do a bit of texture replacing here and there with some umbrella corp andvertisements and such, but mainly keep the game vanilla.

>>11875673
RE5 would be very different if it weren't for most of the key guys being out of the company

>muh sales
>muh getting to play as an asian woman for 2 hours
>muh extra meme outfit and meme weapon you unlock after beating the game
Look, a little shitposting is good for the soul, but the fact is that the PS2 version of RE4 sucks ass. If you didn't play this shit on GCN in 2005, you didn't play the game. It's that simple. I'm sorry that you didn't get to be there, I'm sorry you didn't get the authentic experience, but it's ultimately just not my problem. You can cope and dilate and go through the motions, but it won't change the fact that the PS2 version has heavily downgraded graphics, cutscenes, audio and game design. It's like comparing DOOM on PC to DOOM on Saturn, but even worse. The PS2 version sucks. I'm sorry, man. The one light at the end of the tunnel is that it's 2025 now, and you can emulate the GCN version for free and experience the real game, so there's no reason to cling to the cuckoldry of playing the PS2 version anymore. Just let go.

>>11884871
Based and truthpilled, I recently replayed the Gamecube version at the start of the year and it was significantly more enjoyable than the modern releases. I'm thinking next time I am gonna play the original JP release, to my knowledge there's a few minor differences from it and the US release so it'll be interesting for an autist like me to notice.

>>11884871
>>11885026
RE4's lighting and shading system itself is different on Gamecube, there are self-shadows on character models based on the angle and light sources. This does not exist in the other versions. Environmental lighting is also completely different, and the game has more colours, while the other versions look bland and dark.

>>11885039
The big change for me was changing the cutscenes from being rendered in-game to being simple low quality videos, but hey I guess you could watch them whenever you want now for the 3 people that cared about that.

Seeing as it didn't even take a year for another platform to see the game I'm going to call false advertising.

>>11885253
PS2 couldn't handle RE4's in-engine cutscenes

>>11885376
Which was super-retarded when you unlocked the secondary outfits because Ada is supposed to show up in her Assignment Ada tactical gear in the main game when you wear them but since the cutscenes are prerendered that never happens.

>>11885394
REMAKE, RE0 and RE4 were built specifically for GameCube hardware. Even the modern ports have GameCube code in them.

>>11885423
REmake and RE0 being remastered is kind of an oddity since the game doesn't really have "graphics" as such. You're basically walking on top of a gif.

>>11885457
REmake and RE0 were only playable on the GC/Wii hardware until Capcom ported them to PS4, Windows, and Xbox

REmake Remaster lost the original assets and was stuck with the Gamecube backgrounds. Missing shadows/effects everywhere. Pic related.

Resident Evil Zero Remastered had fully re-rendered 1080p backgrounds and looks really good. They actually had the original files and assets and improved them all. Also playable at 30fps, 60fps or 120fps.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZJHTD4AhWaI&t=54s

Resident Evil 4 was ported from GameCube, to Wii, to Xbox 360, to Windows (Ultimate HD), to PS4 / Switch.

>>11882569
>On MTV they played a flash animation from egoraptor which was his RE4 short.
What.

>>11876923
Loved playing the Wii version. Absolutely fun.

>>11885485
Oh, I don't doubt that they took the raw assets and recompressed them to appear sharper in a higher resolution.

But getting the game to run at a high frame rate isn't exactly an accomplishment when it's got the most base amount of environmental handling a game could possibly have since the environment and the composition of the environment are totally separate things internally (the game engine itself would be doing just as much work if they loaded everything in a blue void).

>>11885485
>Resident Evil 4 was ported from GameCube, to Wii, to Xbox 360, to Windows (Ultimate HD), to PS4 / Switch.

RE4 GC/Wii had Dolby ProLogic II for audio positioning, while many sound effects clearly being mono in the ports. Sometimes it looks like the enemies are really close because of the volume of their steps, It's a bit messed up in the ports.

In the GC and Wii version the game has echo/reverb in some areas

Certain effects, such as high intensity fire effects, depth of field and dust particles in the air are absent while the overall colours are desaturated, eliminating the contrast between light and shadow. These criticisms apply to every conversion of the game - and that includes these new PS4 and Xbox One remasters.

I kind of like the delineation between 3D rendered actors being set against a 2D prerendered background.

Like in >>11885457 you can easily tell Billy is on a different plane from the suitcase next to him, even with the environment being touched up from what it might have looked like on the GameCube, but that completely differing rendering layers being applied give it a certain aesthetic that helps add to the scene.

>>11885530
It's kind of like in cartoons when you can tell something will move and isn't part of the background

>>11885541
Same vein but the use of it here feels like it's actually an appeal of using the technique, not just something noticeable as a technical quirk of what they were limited by.

>>11885362
This has got to be, without a doubt the worst cover of any RE game, there might be some that are marginally worse in other regions but not by much. The PAL cover really was the best.

>>11885039
The GC version looks like a 7th gen game.

>>11885896
>The PAL cover really was the best.
Yeah, for pseud redditors who soiface at le artistic spoopy red and black cover, meanwhile the US version is an accurate indication of the what the game is actually like and has a light purple hue that compliments the Gamecube well. I bet you think the JP covers for Perfect Dark and OoT are better too. Plz kys senpai.

>>11886016
Calm down delusional tendie.
RE4 on the gamecube can't widescreen and has letterboxing.

>>11886045
That literally is what Gears of War looks like if you played it on the same shitty CRT and took the same shit quality photo of it, minus the letterboxing.

>>11884871
RE4 on PS2 is clearly the final, complete and polished product... the definitive version.
Thanks for beta testing.

>>11886056
lol

>>11877129
The only reason for capcom's games being exclusive during 8/16 bit gen was nintendo's scummy exclusivity contracts. Had SF2 been released on the genesis in 92, the snes would be fucked

>>11886045
I would just play the PC HD version.
I think the PS2 version also looks good for a PS2 game.

>>11886062
The GC version has fewer pixels being displayed at once on the screen. That's why the game looks better than the PS2 version.
Compromises had to be made so the definitive ps2 version wouldn't be playable in a horrible 4:3 letterboxing.

>>11886084
Whoa, who knew "fewer pixels" added polygons, particle effects and dynamic lighting. Those funny old pixels...
>Compromises had to be made
The "compromise", in this case, being 30% fewer polygons, removal of most special effects, removal of real time cutscenes, lower enemy count, worse AI and ruined weapon balancing. But yes, you do get widescreen -- oops, it's anamorphic, so they just took the 4:3 image, cropped it even further and stretched it out, meaning you actually see even less and the image is blurrier. Uh oh, stinky.

>>11886091
If it's so simple and not demanding, then why did the gaycube version choose the obnoxious output format?

>>11886348
Because it is demanding, and letterboxing allowed for a solid 30fps framerate unlike the absolutely butchered PS2 version that somehow still chugs even with fewer polys, effects and enemies omscreen. Are you retarded, or do you just have abaolutely no idea how computer graphics work?

>>11885503
During the early and mid 2000s flash games and flash animations were popular because of websites like new grounds. Egoraptor was an animator who made metal gear awesome and some other animations. For whatever reason around 2005 or so I had MTV on (they used to play music) and they broadcasted his one or two minute long resident evil 4 short. I don’t remember if it was a half hour block where they were just playing people’s flash animations, or if it was a one off thing or an advertisement for the game. I’m just telling you that it happened. It’s how I discovered egoraptor in the first place and I was really dissapointed when he stopped making animations and became a fucking streamer. Wasted his talents. Resident evil 4 was really popular when it came out on the GameCube like I said before it felt like it was everywhere for a while.

>>11874736 (OP)
There's a ton of things wrong with this game.
>Wears an ugly brown jacket.
>Has an emo style haircut.
>Is a mass murderer shooting innocent villagers at a village he is invading/trespassing in)
>This game doesn't look like it takes place during the modern day, seems out of place compared to the rest of the RE series. Might be a reskin of another game entirely. Especially with having a cult and a midget who dresses like it's still the 1700's? No thanks.
>Uses QTE's(fuck Shenmue for that).
>Has been ported to death to make up for the money it lost on being a timed Gamecube exclusive.
>REmake is a much better game.
>Repetitive, bland and boring.
>Cringey dialog and faggotry throughout the game.
Need I say more?

>>11881616
Everyone knows the PS2 was a cash cow but RE4 was a huge hit long before the port. Certainly not dead by any stretch of the imagination.

>>11886385
Calm down we already think the game is cool you don’t need to convince us with so many bulletpoints