Thread 11879178

>That draw distance
>That resolution
So that's the Xbox difference.

>>11879178 (OP)
Microsoft was straight soulin' with this one

>>11879228
I didn't get why critics were lukewarm on this game. It's my favorite SSX

>>11879220
Vast majority of games people wanted to play back in the day had Xbox versions.

>>11879178 (OP)
Too bad you can't emulate OG Xbox because all the programmerchads live in Europe where the Xbox sold like shit.

>>11879178 (OP)
Imagine if they used the technology to make a good game instead of Amped 2.

>>11879276
Amped 2 is the greatest snowboarding game ever made with the most intricate scoring system around.

>>11879282
Steep Slope Sliders and 1080 are better in every way.

>>11879256
Xemu exists but development is absolutely glacial on it. There just aren't those S tier autistics like Nintendo consoles tend to attract that can one man push an emulator forward significant leaps and bounds in short periods of time.

>>11879256
>Europe where the Xbox sold like shit.
Rightfully so, europeans basically had to subsidize the production costs of the console for the american market. While the introductory price of the OG Xbox was $299 in the US it was €479 in Europe, the difference is exactly the amount of money Microsoft was losing with each sold console in the US market.
Nobody in their right mind would go for such an expensive console from a new competitor when the cheaper alternatives PS2 and the GCN were right there from established companies. In addition to that the PC gaming market was always big in europe, even before Steam.

>>11879178 (OP)
makes me want to be on a couch or an armchair in front of a big box screen

>>11879178 (OP)
It's actually insane what the Xbox could do. I know its hardware is basically a 2001 PC but still.
Most games did 480p and some even did 720p.

I also miss the dudebro sports games era from the early 2000s, like Amped, THPS, SSX and so on.

>>11879256
The thing is that I knew so many people that owned in Xbox here in Europe.
People in the emulation community didn't have access to its hardware documentation until a few years ago.
I think people aren't so interested in emulating it because you can play the majority of its library on modern Xbox consoles.
OG Xbox had good games besides Halo like Ninja Gaiden Black, Panzer Dragoon Orta, Dead or Alive 3 or Jet Set Radio Future.

>>11879575
In part it's because the console is so open as it is. Put against its contemporaries you can do everything you'd ever want to on it. It doesn't have that novelty of running tomb raider on the gba. In fact it was one of the first platforms with the full suite of open lara games released on it.

The Xbox ecosystem attracts people who want to maintain the hardware identity. In a sense it was the first big media center living room box. Want to play super nintendo? It's on the xbox. PlayStation? N64? Xbox. Halo 2? CE? Xbox. People are booting up their Xbox consoles today to play Xbox games like Mech assault and halo 2 online like they did in the mid 2000s. They can sorta join through PC, but the real deal is on Xbox.

What's the appeal in emulating then?

>>11879471
>the PC gaming market was always big in europe

It was bigger in America, so that doesn't really explain anything.

>>11879684
>It was bigger in America
I very much doubt it, especially in the late 90s early 2000s. NA was more of console landscape compared to europe, that's also the reason why there were behind in every competitive PC game (RTS,FPS etc) with the exception of maybe Rapha carrying an entire continent on it's shoulders, alone.

>>11879308
In the past year Xemu development has made huge strides. Just got another update yesterday actually. Give it a try, you'll be surprised. Amped 2 for example works perfectly.

>>11879287
Looks OK but still has obvious track borders, a cheap looking background, lacks a sense of scale and distance objects are obviously a big vertex blob for shading.

>>11879220
Spotted the guy that only plays JRPGs.

>>11879308
Xemu isn't glacial at all? Lots of games work well and it's constantly getting updates that fix games that don't. I wanted to play SSX3 and Breakdown on it, a month or two ago they weren't working so hot but an update came out recently and now they work great. It has an update available almost every time I open the damn thing. For how new it is and how difficult OG Xbox emulation apparently is, it's damn impressive how far its come and how quickly it's catching up. There was literally no such thing as an Xbox emulator just a few years ago, its not like PCSX2 where it took 15+ years to finally get good so give it some credit.

>>11880179
Xemu has been quietly killing it. I've been trying to spread the word. I've been enjoying gaming more than I have in a long time thanks to it. Rallisport Challenge 1 & 2, Breakdown, Colin Mcrae, DoA2:U, The Bard's Tale, Crimson Sea, Galleon (crazy underrated), Freedom Fighters, Gun Valkyrie, Mace Griffin, etc etc etc.

>>11880196
>>11880179
the only big titles I can think of that are really fucked up currently on Xemu are the DoA games, which still have pretty nasty slowdown issues, but honestly with the current rate of progress they'll probably unfuck em soon

>>11880196
>I've been trying to spread the word
I appreciate your work. The only wrong way to play Original Xbox is to not play it at all.

>>11880208
OG Xbox is one of the most soulful consoles of all time, and I will fight the whole world on that. I know a lot of bad things came from, and after it, but it was the peak. There has never been anything better than playing PGR2 online, drift jumping through Moscow talking smack to English people at 2 am. Or playing all night when Halo 2 came out and everyone was joyful and laughing and shit talking.
It was the Dreamcast 2. Take me the fuck back.

>>11879178 (OP)
i love the 3 amped games, too hard to emulate tho

>>11880202
Try turning off threaded optimization in Nvidia control panel for Xemu, this fixes the slowdown in pretty much everything that has it. Hopefully they can fix whatever is causing that soon so its not up to the end user to figure out they need to do that, although they do explain this on their website.

>>11879178 (OP)
Pretty sure this is amped 1 but yeah it has crazy skyboxes. That NZ level that is just cliffs looks fucking amazing (plays average though)

>>11880412
When was the last time you tried? 2 (the best one) works perfectly and looks beautiful at higher res.
Seeing Amped 2 in 720p on OG Xbox was a relevatory next gen experience.

What is amped 3 like? I was too poor for an xbox 360

>>11880134
I was referring to the N64 game, but Avalanche is still better than Amped.

>>11880721
Not seeing it

>>11879178 (OP)
graphics used to fucking mean something, man

>>11879256
You gotta get your hands on an Xbox and hack it bro

>>11879282
I miss 6thgen games too.

>>11879575
The people who I knew had an Xbox got it for free from some promotion. It sort of worked, because they went from having a PS1, to free Xbox, and then they were buying the 360.

>>11882945
They were selling them new for like 30 bucks at the end, I heard. I think it also helped that the X360 was so good. Basically a high-end PC for a few hundred bucks.

>>11880491
It's dude weed lmao the game

>>11879575
>I think people aren't so interested in emulating it because you can play the majority of its library on modern Xbox consoles.
not really, 63 out of 989 games are backwards compatible
sure, you got the essentials like Ninja Gaiden Black. but let's say for games that got extra content only on Xbox like Fatal Frame games, there are no way to play them unless you spend like 200 bucks (it's cheaper to just buy the Xbox console and hack it to get them for free)

All the console manufacturers back then had an exclusive snowboarding game. Amped, Cool Boarders, 1080. Now they don't have jack squat.

>>11879228
>>11879231
I miss that cartoony/semi-real EA look and how silky smooth the animations were before they became a full-time NFL factory.

>>11880202
pgr2 has loads of slowdown