Conglaturation on the worst level design and most repetitive gameplay in an FPS

Don't forget the shit guns, either. Shame, the enemy AI was really cool and the aesthetics in the second level were kino.

>>11883517 (OP)
filtered, and by HCE of all things

>>11883517 (OP)
Oh no! The game that was 'so' bad it inspired games for the next 25 years to copy almost everything about it.

Yeah... 'So' bad.

>>11883650
fpbp

>>11883657
This basically

>>11883650
>shit guns
Why bother when all you need is the pistol?

>>11883763
The pistol is only good in multiplayer. It sucks shit for the campaign. Never has a shred of ammo either.

>>11883517 (OP)
Congratulations for being too poor and brown to afford an Xbox

>>11883517 (OP)
It may be repetitive but not as repetitive as your boring opinion

>>11883517 (OP)
>the worst level design and most repetitive gameplay in an FPS
If Halo is the worst you've ever experienced, then you're a very privileged FPS player, very privileged indeed. Ever played Gloom on Amiga? It's unmitigated shit, and still not even close to the worst.

>>11883517 (OP)
Thanks, I had way more fun with it than I did playing Half Life.

>>11883517 (OP)
That's not Serious Sam.

>>11883517 (OP)
>got bullied by Xbox kids in middle school
>still seething about it nearly 25 years later

>>11883517 (OP)
>worst level design
nah mate not by a long shot

>>11883517 (OP)
Oh look, it's this thread again.

>>11885307
Doom 2's bad level design is highly exaggerated, it's still fun.

>>11885312
It's not even bad. Definitely nowhere near as bad as Halo's.
Though OP's complaint about repetitive is kinda shit. Repetition is what game loops do mostly and FPS more than most. The real issue is that Halo was a shit slow ass game whose redeeming value was mainstreaming twin stick controls to console FPS games.
Beyond that it was is babbys first FPS and just not very good.

>>11885341
Yeah, I hated the slow physics of Halo and 2 weapon limit. Halo was the first true "modern" FPS with all the trends that later FPS games would have.

>>11885307
Only one or two of Doom 2's levels are poorly designed, it's more that the game is overall not as well paced as it could have been.
Not splitting the levels up into episodes like the first game I think was a mistake, the difficulty curve and pacing would have been much better that way.
Otherwise, I think it's still a damn good game, the first 11 maps of Doom 2 are a really solid and enjoyable continuous romp.

Again, people who say shit like this about famous and well received shooters have simply not played actually bad ones.

>>11883517 (OP)
But, it was fun so....

>>11885385
I'm sure some other dev would realize that slower movement makes things easier for analog sticks. It still had decent enemy variety for its fights, and it was one of the last big FPS franchises to hold onto a traditional "deathmatch" where you fought over pickups before loadouts blew up.

>>11886187
Don't have to go super slow with an analog, it's just easier if you don't have a mouse for looking.
I play shooters with a gamepad in the left hand for analog movement and face buttons, and a mouse in the right for looking and shooting. Extremely smooth.

>>11886230
>it's just easier if you don't have a mouse for looking.
That's the assumed context we're talking about here, people/console players using dual analog sticks.

>>11883763

The pistol is not better than a sniper at long range or a shotgun at short range. Halo pistol is just the best jack-of-all-trades weapon of any FPS ever.

>>11883517 (OP)
Let's not say such things when Wolf3D and Doom already exist.

Captcha: KAAHK, as in OP sure sucks alotta KAAHK.

My biggest gripe with the Halo series is how long it takes to kill enemies and how little ammo you can carry. Yes it forces you to be constantly swapping weapons but it gets incredibly annoying that it takes an entire mag dump to kill enemies

>>11886412
if you're using the AR to take down elites on the regular, you need to get better at the game

>>11883517 (OP)
Over 20 years later and people are STILL mad and obsessed over this.
You are a grown ass man in your 30s, act your age.

>>11883763
Pistol is garbage against all Covenant except Hunters. Pistol is only good in multiplayer.

I never had an XB, had PS2 and GC. I used to say Halo was overrated yadda yadda because I didn't understand why ppl bought and XBox just because of it.
Played it a few years after release. It's actually a damned good game. I'd play it again over HL2 even. It's as repetitive as any other FPS from that time.
People try so hard to be contrarian. What's an example of a good retro FPS to you, OP?

>>11887098
This is bait this thread comes up constantly.

I must admit, I don't get Halo. Everything about it is just kind of "fine". It's never quite cool or interesting enough.
Strikes me as a series for people who favor standard pepperoni pizza, or think Genesis' early albums are too avant garde.
I mean, if you want a shooter, there are shooters where the shooting is more fun and satisfying, and if you want a sci-fi universe even Star Wars is leaps and bounds ahead of Halo in terms of cool factor. Not to mention actual cool stuff like Dune, 40K etc.
Halo is the series where you play a guy called "Chief" who wears a paintball mask, and uses Fischer Price guns.

>>11887098
HL1. Going a back a little further, Duke 3D.

>>11887098

Halo is a really fun game if you didn't grow up playing these: >>11887829 If you did, it's a bit boring for everything but living room deathmatches (which Goldeneye already did) and co-op play.

To be fair though, co-op play was really the big advancement that it bought to the table. When people talk about the successes of Halo, in my experience the people who played it were all students playing Co-op when they should have been writing essays; Talking shit with your friends at 3am (while possibly high and/or drunk) while trying to beat the game on Legendary made the levels seem far less copy and paste.

>Conglaturation

I'm sure the development for Halo CE must've been very difficult.

>>11884428
Why is the thread even still going after this anon skewered OP to the wall.

>>11883517 (OP)
most replayable fps campaign ever.

>>11883517 (OP)
I am sort of an engagement farmer myself. The Halo crops are always fruitful.

>>11887825
>"Chief" who wears a paintball mask,
Chief's armor objectively looks cool. So do Elites and Hunters.

>>11883517 (OP)
I don't know, I grew up playing quake and half life and I had a lot of fun with Halo in middle school. At the vet least the levels and guns are better than OG Doom.

>>11884150
Half life 1 has better guns. 2 really dropped the ball though.

>grow up with a GCN and PS2
>nobody I know has an Xbox except a couple of guys at a youth group
>one of the kids brings his console one day and they let us set it up on the TV after the meeting
>him and another guy play co-op on silent cartographer while the rest of us watch
>think it looks kind of shit because they spent the entire time dicking around in the warthog
>a year or two later, see my brother playing the Mac version on his computer (what a fag), still think nothing of it
>end up getting a free Xbox from my buddy in 2007 with CE and a few other games
>try it out, make it to the third level, get bored and stop playing
>give the PC version a try in 2018 on a whim
>love the game and beat it on heroic and legendary back to back
>spend 6 months straight curbstomping mexicans online
>play the levels over and over to the point of exhaustion, going so far as to indulge in self-imposed challenges like beating levels without dying on legendary, or trying to get the warthog into the starting area on level 2 using grenades, just to squeeze any life out of the game
>end up playing the game to the point where I hate 50% of it (see: everything after and including 343 Guilty Spark)
>come back every year just to play the first few levels over and over for a day or two
I still can't decide if this game is elder god kino or mostly shit.

As a kid I'd always get bored as fuck in singleplayer (coop so technically not sp but whatever) by the 2nd mission. Out of all of them there are like, 4 half-good missions (half-good because they always fucking drag on for an eternity) and the rest are shit.
We played 2/3/4 player split-screen MP non-fucking stop though, that was where the real fun was.
To this day CE's multiplayer is my favorite and is something I revisit regularly in MCC. The campaign is still ass and sucks balls and I have no idea how the game caught on so well before Xbox Live became a thing. I never knew anyone that could set up a system link so I assume most players played 2-4 player splitscreen at home with their family and friends.

>>11883517 (OP)
I don't hate it, but it was overrated. The only thing Halo did was popularize intuitive controls on consoles (built off of Alien Resurrection's controls)

I bet the literal boomers who say halo gameplay is boring and repetitive think that doom 1/2 isnt (fun game btw) or early counterstrike /quake 3 arena somehow wasn’t the same thing every match. If halo never took off these boomers would probably be saying it’s a hidden gem or something you missed out on. They would still be playing halo CE today and halo 2 and 3 wouldn’t exist.

>>11891725
Halo levels aren’t even that long and the I feel like halo 1 had like 10 levels? it’s the standard length of a FPS game.

>>11891710
I probably have exponentially more hours in doom1/2 over my life than halo 1/2 but I can remember every level of halo 1/2 and can never really remember that much from doom 1/2. Doom is maybe more fun in short bursts but little to nothing in doom is memorable. Very few levels in doom are something I can visualize or imagine but with halo it all stands out.


If I wanted to be fair maybe I would say that doom 1/2 has slightly better gameplay than halo but pretty mediocre campaigns and halo has better campaigns but the gameplay isn’t as addicting as doom.


If doom never had custom level support I don’t think it would have ever taken off half as much as it did. There are too many doom levels that are just outright shit.

>>11891682
Halo 1 armour makes him look like Convincing Sci-Fi Man, hated how the Halo 2 armour basically became the standard for the rest of the series though.

>>11883517 (OP)
Indians doing this on twitter make 6 million poopees a year. Why are you doing this?

>>11884015
>>11887089
I take it you guys never played on legendary, the pistol is the 2nd most useful weapon in the campaign.

>>11892485
>I take it you guys never played on legendary
Did you? Pistol is less useful in Legendary than any other difficulty. It sucks ass against elites and is mostly useful for cleaning up grunts or killing the occasional Hunter.

>>11892513
I don't know about you but the pistol is one of the most useful on legendary due to its headshot capabilities, ofcourse weapons like the sniper and rocket launcher are stronger but you rarely have more than a handful of shots for those weapons while the pistol has more than enough ammo in almost every situation where you have one.
Like it's called the noob combo for a reason, Plasma Pistol and Magnum combo is hands down the best 2 weapons to have in general, and the beauty of the combo is you can trade out the PP for whatever may be situationally useful like a shotgun or sniper because they are fucking everywhere.