Engineering deck is the biggest difficulty spike I've ever experienced in a game. What were they thinking?

I had such a hard time with engineering first time I played SS2. Later on when I replayed as a psionic, it was incredibly easy since I could just activate the agility powerup, run up to bots and then run away quickly enough to get out of the blast radius.

>>11885381 (OP)
They were thinking your upcoming generation wouldn't be so mentally ill. They were wrong.

What the fuck?!

>>11885381 (OP)
The entire game is insanely easy.

>>11885580
If you played it a trillion times, sure. You're lying if you say your first time was easy.

>>11885381 (OP)
What kind of character are you running?

>>11885602
No, it's insanely easy. It's definitely the easiest game Looking Glass put their name on.

Get good you little dick bitch

>>11885381 (OP)
>What were they thinking?

>>11885381 (OP)
radiation is not dangerous at all. it just generates a sense of irrational panic. completely ignore the radiation and you'll be fine

>>11885602
>infinite respawns

>>11885605
Thief is defintely easier

>>11885634
I beat the game many times. Engineering is harder than all the other levels combined.

>>11886423
to get infinite respawns you have to activate the respawn machine which is about halfway through the level

>>11886423
Maybe I'm retarded but I treat death like death. If I die I load the previous save. Same for Bioshock.

just sneak around dude, you can hide in shadows and everything

>>11885381 (OP)
The invisible spiders is the legit reason for
>What were they thinking?
not the mid-game level.
I used Navy in my first playthrough and my biggest gripe was that the infinitely spawning hybrids immediately wrecked my lovingly hacked turrets, that's all. I knew beforehand that the glitched never-breaking weapons existed, though.

>>11887540
which ones were glitched?

>>11885580
It's easy if you already knew ahead of time what to avoid like lurking this board and reading all the common traps. The game is full of softlocks.

>>11886562
Thief has a way steeper learning curve. System Shock 2 is just full of traps like useless abilities. If someone told you ahead of time one or two of the traps SS2 is trivially easy, but that wont help you in Thief.

>>11888223
>The game is full of softlocks.
The game tells you flat out "don't invest these points into anything but what you're told to." one time and you decided to invest into what you weren't supposed to lol.

i didn't use a single rad hypo during my first run because i thought "what if i need them later for an even harder level"
>>11887221
nta, i tried doing that when i learned that ss2 and thief are basically the same game but it feels like hiding isn't efficient at all in ss2
hiding in shadows barely changes how visible you are to enemies, but sneaking does seem to work fine at least

>>11888584
yeah you don't have a light gem but it's still really useful during the engineering bays

>>11888225
That's a hardlock and not what I'm talking about. The game is full of ways you can screw yourself and make it 100x harder. If you read about the game ahead of time, or even played other immersive sims, then they're easy to avoid.

>>11888697
Then explain what you're fucking talking about you're not my 4 year old use your big kid words and start fucking giving examples.

>>11885381 (OP)
wait till you get till the final level. you could easily get softlocked if you don't have enough radiation or health hypos. also fuck those teeth

>>11885381 (OP)
I love everything about this game except actually playing it.

>getting softlocked in System Shock 2
How? These are the only things I can even think of

>the required hack vending machine
You have to simultaneously have no hacking, go out of your way to spend the cyber modules on something else, have no ICE picks or the tier4 psi hack spell, and also have no backup saves after you realize you fucked up.

>the radiation pool in the body of the many
Is there anyone on the planet who will go past the point of no return into the final dungeon without stocked up to the tits in supplies?

>running out of ammo or intact guns or psi in the early parts and not being able to get past all the turrets on deck 1 or something
Theoretically if this happens you could still go melee them with the wrench, and probably repeatedly die and get reconstructed while doing that, and in the absolute worst case if you run out of nanites to get reconstructed you could go farm more from the hybrid respawns on deck 2.

>having no way to drop the final bosses shields
>tossing a key item somewhere and losing it
You'd have to go out of your way to fuck yourself over on purpose that badly.

>>11890170
>Is there anyone on the planet who will go past the point of no return into the final dungeon without stocked up to the tits in supplies?
This. Body of the Many is unfun and kind of frustrating but not difficult at all. You're showered to piss with anti annelid ammo and have enough nanites to buy a trillion med kits which are activated by the push of a button.

Also anybody wasting annelid shots on eggs is retarded. Shotgun shells are the only way to go for those since respawning shotgun hybrids are guaranteed to have at least one.

>>11889794
>also fuck those teeth
I don't think any first person game has ever had fun platforming moments.

I went into this game relatively blind (I knew that repair is a useless skill and some people complain of softlocking) but came out ok. By the time I was in the body of the Many, I had picked up so many unused grenades I had enough to clear that section using the launcher alone.

I went into this mostly blind for "impossible", focusing hard on standard weapons and research. I think the turrets gave me a harder time over any of the enemies, and being autistic about ammo counts paid off when I made it to the Many. Overall a good time.
>>11890261
I doubt they would be any more or less annoying if they were done in third person.

>>11890267
Using grenades on cyborg assassins is non negotiable. There's just no other weapon that's feasible against them without taking a lot of damage. I save all my grenades for those bastards.

>>11890289
Almost all the anti robot/cyborg weapons are pretty good against them. AP bullets, overloaded laser pistol juggling, laser rapier, even the EMP rifle (even though it's shit otherwise)

>>11885381 (OP)
I thought it wasn't very hard, only the cargo bay area gave me any trouble and that's because I have some fucked up tendency to explore every last nook and cranny whenever I play a game with hidden objects.

>>11890284
0 points in hack is fucking insane. I'm honestly shocked you could even finish the game without it.

>>11890170
>the required hack vending machine
in the unpatched game, hacking the machine before you were told to was a genuine softlock, as it would never spawn the Sympathetic Resonator.

>>11892251
Not that guy but after having done multiple radically different builds I've found it's suprisingly not that much of a handicap to have 0 hacking.

>>11892331
>in the unpatched game, hacking the machine before you were told to was a genuine softlock, as it would never spawn the Sympathetic Resonator.
Holy shit that's a bad glitch, wouldn't almost everyone who was playing blind and leveled hacking trigger it?

>>11885381 (OP)
Any tips for a Psi build? Is it cheating to also use energy weapons?

Also, any good mods? Theres a lot of graphic enhancement mods but i dont give a shit about that trash

>>11892641
If you want to do a heavily/only psi build, get improved hypo power and reduced shop prices for O/S upgrades, and use an ice-pick or the level 4 psi-hacking power on the replicator specifically in the rectangular donut shaped Deck 1 main elevator room to stack maximum psi point per money spent efficiency (minmaxing this hard probably isn't necessary but feels good)

>>11892641
Put points into agility. Combined with the agility and melee damage buffs you'll be able to outrun enemies, dodge their attacks and one hit them with the crystal shard.

>>11892529
I almost went hacking instead of research. I don't know what stuff I'm missing due to no hacks but I'm really glad I didn't miss out on the items and descriptions you get from research. I also had some fun figuring out and grabbing the chemicals.