Zelda TP level design is way better. I don't understand Okami fans. Okami NPCs talk way too much imho.

>>11885820 (OP)
People stopped saying that Okami is better than TP a long time ago

I still think Okami is OK, but it is a game entirely carried by its charm imho. And yeah getting over that long ass talky intro every time I feel like replaying is brutal

>>11885820 (OP)
I find both games visually offensive, for complete opposite reasons. Okami is too colorful and TP is too brown.

>>11885820 (OP)
Both are pretty shit games.

>>11885820 (OP)
Those games have horrible framerates.

Zelda games get compared unfairly against every other Zelda game.
Zelda clones just have to exist and be a fraction as good as Zelda, and people lose their minds.
If SS wasn't called Zelda, it would universally be considered a great game, and some kind of cult classic. People would even be saying "SEE Nintendo? THIS is the Zelda we want to play!".
People are just like that.

>>11885856
>NPC's have 5,000 lines of dialogue
>100% unskippable

Yeah it chaps my ass every time too

>>11885820 (OP)
games arent even similar I have no idea why people still compare them. I mean I understand but I refuse to believe cognizant humans see a dog and assume the games are the same.

>>11886461
Because TP was supposed to come out first, but got delayed to push it on the Wii. Okami came out in that time, and was well received by a lot of people who were looking forward to TP. Then TP comes out, and the wolf sections feel stale due to Okami being more fun. Most people have warmed up to the game by now, but it was a really shit move to push Wii sales that sabotaged a lot of hype around the game's launch.

TP should have been the best Zelda but unfortunately they didn't fire the clown Aonuma after Wind Waker and he filled the game with shit like these grotesque gay Mpreg transmen old perverts

>>11886623
mindfucked so hard by trannies that you go back in time 20 years and convince yourself that younger you had a problem with something that didnt even exist at the time. Thats actually hilarious youre so fucked man lmao

Okami is basically an outright awful game that could only entertain the kind of person who loves JRPGs where you're lead by the nose, but let's not pretend TP isn't a also chore in a similar way. Still, anyone who praises Okami but shits on this era of Zelda is just a fucking clown. They are all of the same ilk.

>>11885820 (OP)
You gotta understand, Nintendo gave the public exactly what they asked for and as such the game industry had to pretend that hyper realistic graphics were a thing of the past and that cartoony anime was better all along because it's okay when it's on the PS2

>>11886461
Journalists do.

>>11886461
>these games aren't even similar
>Okamifags show up in any thread about Zelda to say "OKAMI IS THE BEST ZELDA GAME EVER MADE"

>>11886461
>I refuse to believe cognizant humans see a dog and assume the games are the same.
I'm sorry to tell you this but I have seen people compare them for this very reason

>>11886461
The characters in both games are wolves not dogs. In fact the title of Okami itself is a pun on that: 狼 / 大神

Okami is only a zelda clone until the end of the first dungeon. Past that it is a generic action adventure game. And even the zelda bits are just mediocre anyway.

>>11885820 (OP)
Kamiya banned me from his twitter a long time ago for saying okami had poor pacing.

>>11888424
I wouldn't say it has poor pacing. Unskippable cutscenes aside, it moves along at a decent pace. It's just longer than it needed to be so even though you make steady progress it feels like a bit of a slog by the end.

I still like the game and its not like it's some 100+ hour JRPG time sink but honestly if they cut like 40% of the content out I think it would basically be the same experience

>>11886645
Even if we take the tranny shit out of the equation, what's the deal with those two fags? They look ugly, why put ugly things in the game?
Why do so many designers/art directors do that shit? They purposely put ugly shit in their game as if they think they can normalize it.

I like both

>>11888228
Explain the runes

>>11888884
They have the same pronunciation.

I couldn’t stand Twilight Princess, everything about it felt sluggish.

>>11888442
It has a real problem with characters not shutting the fuck up and letting you play.

>>11888901
It's the most "I guess this is what I said I want..." Zelda game of all time. Nothing about it is fantastic or spellbinding. It's all kind of just routine.
Link looks kind of cool in his chain mail, sure. Midna is kind of a fun character, sure. Some of those bosses were big and cinematic, sure. I feel strongly about almost none of it.
Man, the best part of that game might be when it surprises you with a wild west shootout, for like ten minutes. That just goes to show how little of an impression the rest of the game leaves.

>>11888901
>get this horse
>herd these goats
>steal some pregnant lady's baby cradle from a monkey
>catch a fish for some faggot cat
>buy a slingshot
>kill a single spider with the slingshot
>get a sword
>teach some down syndrome Code Lyoko looking kids how to use the slingshot and sword
>they chase a monkey or something
>have to go chase after them
>a jewish guy gives you a lantern
>kill some bats
>kill some more bats, plants, and like 4 goblins
>go to a forest clearing with a jewish bird that has the same jewfro as the jew that gave you the lantern for no reason
>kill two more goblins
>hit a wooden cage to release a retarded kid and a monkey
>herd some goats again
>go home and get cucked by more goblins, pass out
>wake up as a dog for some reason
>some midget girl with a facesitting ass forces you into a BDSM scenario until you comply with her demands
>watch the souls of cops peeing themselves in a sewer
>follow the facesitting midget through the sewer and into a castle tower where some princess that has basically fucking nothing to do with the story talks to you about some shit you don't care about
>return to your village (as a dog still)
>think you're alone, but the facesitting imp was hiding in your anus, tee hee
>have to go get a sword and shield
>talk to some retarded monkey made of light
>kill some bugs
>kill some more bugs
>kill a few more bugs, then your soul ascends to puppy valhalla and the monkey god turns you back into a human
>for some reason you're wearing your great grandad's green tunic that he farted in or some shit
>"you are le chosen one"
>cool.png
>you haven't even gotten to the first dungeon yet
Twilight Princess was a mistake.

>>11888941
The thing you described is kino

>>11888961
>the thing
You must be referring to the part where you actually get to play the game. Unfortunately, you see...

>>11885820 (OP)
Gaykami and Trashlight Shitfest are both a no-go according to this anonymous user with a huge cock (me)

>>11888941
>game doesnt begin until I say so! ME!

>>11888994
The game doesn't start until you begin having fun, so technically the game never starts.

>>11888486
I got no problem with trannies whatsoever but yeah that art style is awful, and I too have been wondering for years why Zelda went in such horrible directions over and over. It's still better than what happened to Final Fantasy at least, in my opinion, because a nauseating grotesque that makes you recoil is at least interesting, whereas a tasteless mess of unwieldy, asymmetrical clothing on a samefaced femboy is just depressing.

>>11888941
Sounds like a classic setup to a grand and amazing adventure to me. It captures the spirit of the beginning of the archetype of the hero's journey.

It's been a while since I saw such an absolute dogshit thread on /vr/.

I never had a scrap of fun in TP until I reached the ice dungeon. The sand dungeon boss was fun (easy tho). That's it. Those were the only two parts of the game that were enjoyable. Dungeons sucked, traversal sucked, wolf sections sucked, character designs sucked. The game was ass.

Okami was fresh, fun, weird in all the good ways. Three times I felt like the game was ending, and when it finally did that third time, I was hoping there'd be more. Sure, the dialogue is a bit long-winded, but the characters are charming. Sure, it gives you the answers to the puzzles, but it's not like they're hard to figure out, anyway. The game isn't perfect, but it's still one of my favorite games.

>>11888884
jisho.org saves EOP lives

>>11885820 (OP)
Both are shit

>>11885820 (OP)
Twilight Princess:
>Overrated Shit
Okami:
>Overrated Shit+

>>11888424
Obligatory

>>11885820 (OP)
Okami is basically if Wind Waker 2 was still in-development but they never thought about making an imp girl riding a wolf during the concept phase

>>11890121
Japanese Phil Fish strikes again

>>11888486
Nothing was normalized by that you fucking retard. If anything they were repulsive. What is wrong with you?

>>11890121
he's right

>>11890127
Fuck off ManletTears.

>>11886623
Their "uncensored" concept art is even more wilder.

>>11890139
They don’t even look like queers, they look like clowns.

>>11890138
>muh epic vee boogeyman!!!
Go back to 2013 /v/

>>11890137
He is indeed except for the last one when he agrees with the other guy. WW dungeons are really interesting but there are like 5 of them in total

>>11886623
>>11890139
Looks like they're the average okama gag characters
Twilight Princess NPCs are all still intentionally ugly or too much.

>>11885820 (OP)
>Okami NPCs talk way too much imho
True, I can't handle NPC talking in games any more. The level of NPC chatter in 8-bit and 16-bit games is about the limit for me.

>>11890150
right guy has that haitian dwarf dude energy

>>11890150
Ironic how this game also has like the best Zelda design except SS and Hyrule Warriors

>>11890150
They look like long lost CDI characters.

>>11890137
Not really. Okami dungeons are a step down is quality from WW.

Okami is a game that deigns to be Zelda, but fundamentally doesn't understand anything that is fun about Zelda. It literally just never lets you play the game. It never gives you a puzzle and just leaves you alone to figure it out. The opening of that game is also like thirty minutes straight WORDS, before it lets you have fun at all.

I mean, I kind of like parts of it. It's artsy and has good music. It just gets away with so much shit by not having Link and Gannon in it, and not being a game that was initially released on a Nintendo system, where it could be compared directly to Zelda.

Also, as far as Zelda clones go, Beyond Good and Evil is better.

>>11890156
>liking recolored musoushit

>>11890223
Imagine a fan project where someone remakes TP as a faithful CDi Zelda game.

>>11886645
This board in general is just so mentally ill it's shocking a lot of time

>>11890142
>>11890138
ManleyTears was steaming all the way up to last year on kick under britbonglive.
More then once he got yelled at by his mom live on steam. I wish I would find the clips for these.

>>11890971
This

>>11890971
>>11892673
Cool story, bro. But this isn't /v/ or KiwiFarms.
Take your e-celeb talk elsewhere.

>>11890956
because curent /vr/ is basically /v/ jr.

>>11892710
>>11892714
The duality of man

The only good thing about TP was the dungeons, which to their credit are solid. Everything else between was either a fucking slog, or big empty boring areas.
The largely empty world in OOT even felt more alive then TP's.
The game is just aggressively mediocre.

I'd replay Okami anyday over TP, but only the Wii version so you can skip the dialog because holy shit there is too much.

>>11890150
fwiw all 3D zelda games have shitty looking NPCs. The main characters and enemy models look good but the townsfolk looking fugly is consistent across the series.

>>11893315
Guys only remember the hot cuckoo girl but not the fat dog lady

>>11887091
he said cognizant humans, anon

>>11885820 (OP)
Dropped Okami once I got to the snow area. Despite me somewhat enjoying the game I just can't bring myself to play it. Feels way longer than it actually is.