No offense but who actually likes these shitty games?
>>11905891 (OP)They are great if you have friends to play together with
Me. They're 3D beat em ups. Beat em ups are one of gaming's core genres. What's not to like?
Liked it as a kid. As an adult, it's good for people who can play one round of a game now and then and put it down. For people like me who get into a game and don't want to put it down until I unlock everything, it's absolutely cancerous due to the insane amount of grind to get everything so I will probably never play a musou game again unless co-op with someone
>>11905891 (OP)dw= patricians
let me guess are you wahoo yipi type?
>>11905891 (OP)gotta collect them all characters
>>11905891 (OP)The real question is whatโs the best retro one and for which system. I assume Xbox w dynasty warriors 4 or did they make it to 5 on this gen?
>>11905891 (OP)That game created Musou genre that last until today. So they were in a way a success.
>>11905891 (OP)Always liked them at least the PS2 ones that is. I played all mainline PS2 ones besides 6. The games are underrated and kino. They did in fact keep improving the games with each iteration despite what haters think.
>>11905895I agree they are pretty much a variation on the genre which is why they are under a new genre, the musou genre.
I'm a sucker for these games.
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OP is a faggot, post your main.
For me it's my boy Zhang Fei
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Having no conception of what these games were other than they were released almost as much as the Madden games, a friend showed me the fifth one, but it seemed like they were cleaned up to that point, though even so, I thought it was weirdly stiff and kinda sucked compared to beat em ups like The Warriors, Shaolin Monks and Urban Reign, but I can't lie and say I didn't enjoy when we'd barely just make it through some levels with like no health and defeating the final guy after using that special attack move. Some of the cutscenes/cinematics were fun and those brother characters gave me some feels.
Me. I never understood the argument of "every game is the same" because every game iterates on and learns from what the last one did (sometimes it took the wrong lessons, but still)
I hate that the only fucking person in the games reviewing industry that actually understands the appeal of these games and can vouch for them is fucking Jim Sterling of all people.
>>11906449Any female (don't judge) and the dude with the claws. For Sengoku, it's gotta be my boy Masamune, and also the Yukimura meister (ya just GOTTA)
>>11906449Based and Shu Pilled
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fkqsbU9QddQ
They're my favorite games and this is the best one
>>11906850This is the only one I 100%'d, why do you say it is the best?
>>11905891 (OP)Me.
I'm just disappointed that you could never amass your own army. I thought the body guard system was for that but I think it capped around 4 guards.
I'm more of a Basara person but I enjoy musou in general. I haven't played them all yet but Samurai Warriors 2 was the one I liked the most.
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>>11906449I'M AN AXE MAN
YEAH I'M AN AXE MAN
>>11905891 (OP)Me because I have autism and I need repetition and patterns in my life.
>>11906854Best difficulty, best music, best stages, best character designs. It's the total package where every other DW is lacking something it has.
Why can't you engage Lu Bu?
>>11907390It would be extremely painful
I came to DW3 after playing not retro games first and it stuck out to me how Diaochan was casually running around with TWO maces. I get that this is a game about ancient Chinese superheroes, but it looks far more natural in later games where she has a whip.
they're fun but i've never beaten one. i usually get bored and give up after a few hours.
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>>11905891 (OP)Love these games, recently picked up pretty much all the games available on Ps2 because they're so cheap
>>11907529All of those are good ones.
>>11907401He's a big guy.
PS2 era, DW was the king at east asian genocide games. PS3 era however I think Sengoku Basara 3/4 did it better
>>11907529What are the Xtreme Legends and Empires games supposed to be? Are they updated versions, standalone expansions, or their own thing?
>>11907806XL are kind of like expansion packs with a few new characters and some new missions focused on those characters (usually side stories to the overall narrative)
They also have some extra modes like time attack, some extra challenges, etc
Or they could have a new leveling system with new super weapons
Basically just more of whatever numbered game theyโre based off
Empires is a much different game, using the numbered entry as a basis for character availability and gameplay style, but features more of a strategy โchoose your own adventureโ type mode where you set out to conquer China/Japan and build relationships with the main characters
To put it all into modern terms
>base numbered game>xl dlc/expansion packs>empires endless/strategy bonus mode
>>11905891 (OP)My shitty tastes don't belong to Dynasty/Samurai musous. Just the Orochi and One Piece games.
>>11907390Same sex marriage is forbidden in Ancient China.
>>11907819Were the games at least cheap?
>>11907819Okay, so if I play a base game and load up an Xtreme Legends disc does the save file carry over? Do the Xtreme Legends game make the base games obsolete?
>>11905895They haven't been a core genre of gaming for at least 25 years.
>>11907529Jesus fucking christ. And weebs complain about western shovelware. The only one that even mildly interests me is the Gundam variation, and even that I would only buy for less than 10$.
>>11907869Yeah, first time you load up XL, it will convert the save file from the base game if one exists. The XL disc contains all of the content from base plus the new XL content, but you can't access most of the base game content unless you prove you own the base game via an in-game disc check. However, if you're emulating, there are codes to bypass the disc check.
>>11906194DW2 is the worst. It's not a bad game for what it is, it's just that it has all the growing pains that come with being the 1st in a series.
DW3 did some things right. DW4 did some things right.
DW5 took the best things from both of those and wrapped them into a single package with better music, graphics, level design, story modes, and the biggest character roster on the PS2. I put so many hours into Dynasty Warriors 5: Empires that the disc stopped working properly for me. Only game I've ever had that happen to.
DW5 is what you want.
>>11906757>I never understood the argument of "every game is the same"That's because you actually played the games. The people saying that never did. For further irony, they were often the same people praising the new Madden or Call of Duty they got every year. I don't play the Madden games and will gladly say that they're the same shit now that they were 20 years ago. I'd be more right than wrong too.
>>11907985>Dude play the same maps over and over again for a different cinematic at the endDW deserved the hate though. The only thing worse is modern Earth Defense Force.
>watching Live sumo while playing dynasty warriors
does anyone else also do this?
>>11907989Baloney. The series was making major changes and seeing regular improvement with every entry until it destroyed itself with DW6.
And this...
>Dude play the same maps over and over again...First off, it's based off of actual history. Every version damn well better have the Yellow Turban Rebellion, Hu Lao Gate, Guan Du, Chi Bi, Yi Ling, He Fei, & the Wu Zhang Plains, because those were the most notable battle of the era.
Secondly, the Hu Lao Gate map in DW2 is different than it is in DW3, which is different than DW4, which is different that DW5, and so on and so forth. But like I said before...
>>11907985 >The people saying that never did
>>11908000When I said >play the same map over and over
But in DW5 specifically for example, you have to replay the same maps again and again to see character endings. Sometimes characters share the same path nearly 1:1 except for that cinematic
>>11907951Sounds cumbersome. Do you only have to do the disc check only once after an XL save is made, or for each boot-up?
>>11905891 (OP)Sounds like it's just not your thing, anon.
>>11907829I paid less than 10 dollars for most of them. The Gundam one actually seems to be kind of pricey these days, but I got that for cheap years ago, seems like the days of all PS2 games being inexpensive are over
>>11907976Shit take.
DW5 is the easiest in the series, absolute casual snorefest and the game that gave the series it's bad rep for being braindead and repetitive. The Rage Coins trivialize even Chaos Mode, and the enemy AI got fucking lobotomized on all difficulties into being nothing but damage sponges.
The stages all play exactly the same since they gave them all the same copy/paste base system which fucks any uniqueness they could have had.
The musou modes are too fucking long and repeat the same stages over and over for 3/4 of the cast.
Changing from having an army of bodyguards in 3/4 to just having one asshole tag along was objectively a downgrade in both utility and fun.
>>11908049Every boot up, regardless of the save file status. But again, nowadays there are codes and various other tricks to bypass the disc check. /eagg/ is dead at the moment, but they had a Pastebin with various codes.
>>119080006 had some good ideas and great map design, but Renbu needed a lot more time in the oven.
>>11908056I meant at launch
>>11908080That's not to mention the Weight system completely fucked a lot of characters to being totally nonviable with their ultimate weapons.
>>119080816 was better than it got credit for, but Renbu killed it in the crib. 6E helped a bit, but didn't change the actual button inputs so you were still just mashing one button for 80% of the game.
there is no perfect DW game, just the one you have the most nostalgia for, or the one that you feel meshes the mechanics the best.
i really like the 6E season themes. also i didn't even know 6 had a ps2 version until recently.
https://youtu.be/I9FFx9G6o7Y
>>11907889Dynasty Warriors games (and ripoffs) have been releasing steadily for the last 25 years, anon
This is the one right here, buddy.
>>11908092They weren't sold at full price, although I think you were still getting a decent amount of content for what you were paying for, especially the Empires games
>>11908080auto lock-on making dw4 hard isn't quality difficulty
>>11908080DW4 is fun but DW5 is funner.
>>11907889Yeah they have. Souls games are beat em ups at their core. There's beat em ups, shooting games, puzzle games and platformers. Maybe a couple others. But most games can be boiled down into one of those 4 genres.
>>11907557Thanks for the insight, Diaochan.
>>11908257It's not difficulty at all, it's a non-issue.
Dw games are great games once you treat them as battlefield management and not generic beatemups. Surviving the nanman broken map in 4 on the hardest difficulty with a friend constantly guarding our main boss was simply fun.
If you are just going around and killing everything instead of reacting to what is happening then it is boring as fuck.
>>11908912This is true to an extent IMO. I've played these games to death and now have much more fun doing what you described, but for years I had tons of fun just killing dudes indiscriminately. I still do sometimes, but playing objectives and immersing myself is more fun usually.
>>11908912That makes sense given Koei's earlier games.
>>11908000>until it destroyed itself with DW6DW8 Extreme Legends is really good, although getting the hypothetical routes is a colossal pain in the ass.
>>11908105Nice to know there's at least on other person who likes Dynasty Tactics 2.
>Dynasty Warriors fans when a non DW fan insults their favorite game
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nYpJ37ulsnk
What's the best tv show version of Three Kingdoms to watch? I played all these game for years and still have trouble remembering all their names.
>>11905891 (OP)I only have dynasty warriors 5 empires, is that good or terrible?
>>11909446It's good actually.
>>11907529People who've played early Dynasty Warriors games, what are your thoughts on Drakengard? Asking unironically, do you think it has better gameplay than Dynasty Warriors 2?
>>11909450Shit just double checked, it's dynasty warriors 4 empires. I liked it, played through the historical and the custom campaigns once, heard that every game was essentially the same
>>11909520It's the same story and characters, but the balance is different and the stages are all redesigned and there are new gimmicks every game
Think of DW games like Fighting Game sequels. It's iterative on what came before, not a completely new thing every time like FF or something.
>>11909520avoid the empires spinoffs, they add on useless RTS bullshit.
Even before 3d brawlers came about, the three kingdoms setting was alwaya a popular choice for a bear em up.
Pic related is from 1989 and was more or less "final fight but its guan yu and zhao yun fighting through the armies of lu bu and cao cao".
The followup warriors of fate was also excellent.
>>11909574Even in 2D using 1980s hardware the battles felt pretty cool. They didnthe best they could for the time.
I haven't slept for 48 hours and feel obligated to tell you something: Nobunaga no Yabล Online (Koei, 2003)
The same people who like dogfight games, I guess.
There is a particular part of player who just wants to be in a big open arena, with no obstacles, and kill waves of enemies.
That person is not me, who mostly likes structured level design in games.
The samurai ones are terrific
>>11909429Probably this one https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three_Kingdoms_(TV_series) though I'm partial to the older epic series myself. The modern one is much easier to follow.
>>11906449I like Huang Zhong because he's old and a total badass.
>>11909747>95 episodes>Release 2 May - 15 June 2010So they really didn't feel like drip feeding the viewers huh
BEST OST. POST THEM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2I84Bd7EHd8
With how long it's been taking between games I really wonder why Toei doesn't just re release the old games with an HD touch up. We still never got Samurai 3 in English outside the switch port.
>>11909940err Wii. I mean Wii. I wish there was a Switch port.
>>11909940>>11909943>Samurai 3 That game had a Nazo no Murasamejo campaign
>>11909948Which is pretty cool.
>>11907994If I want to watch Sumo I'll go to Walmart
>>11908080>DW5 is the easiest in the series,First off, I'm going to assume we're only talking about the PS2 games. Secondly, nobody cares. In DW3, arrows were ridiculously overpowered. You could go from full health to dead from a single volley, that you wouldn't even be able to see because of the fog. Third, DW2 is easily the toughest of them, and still the worst of them. Never equate difficulty with fun ever again. Fourth, your complaint about levels being reused in absurd bullshit. Nobody complains about the Madden game just being a game of football everytime. Their formula was good, their levels were good, your take is just less that shit.
>>11909570You mean that they make the game even better. DW5E is the peak of the series.
>>11909520Ignore that other clown. Empires is great. DW4E was the first Empires game. So much like DW2, it had some growing pains. DW5E fixed a lot of that though and was a lot of fun.
>>11909803Such a feeling of impending dread with this theme. A true badass. Shit was about to pop off and you were going to be in for the fight of your life.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zlS7MH_Xs8c
>>11909472I love Dynasty Warriors and Drakengard but Drakengard is pretty shitty Dynasty clone. Itโs elevated by its atmosphere, music, and characters. Not to mention the terribleness is accidentally what makes its good in regard to everything else. Iโd say dynasty warriors 2 is better gameplay wise. Everything about it just better designed (maps, fighting, weapons and more variety in general) but I do technically like Drakengard more overall. Drakengard 2 is bad.
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that doesn't work for me, brother
i made this the other day
>>11908103And they have dozens of units sold, DOZENS!
>>11908295>souls games are beat em ups at their coreRetarded faggot detected. They're action RPG's.
>>11907994The party's over for these rank and file guys once Hoshoryu's toe heals.
>>11910508Zima Yi approves this message
>>11910393Shu became pretty cool in Origins at least.
>>11905895A game isn't inherently good literally just because of it's genre
There are good beat em up and there are shitty ones like DW
>>11910734I'll limit how much I'll say since it's not /vr/, but I was very impressed with Origins.
>>11909768IIRC, that series basically ends with Zhuge Liang's death, followed by a Sima Yi takeover speed run culminating in his own death. The only time you see Sima Yan is as a little kid playing with his grandpa in the closing minutes.
>>11909764>>11909779It's weird how they started out with identical movesets, but Lu Meng kept a relatively generic moveset while Zhang Liao got turned into a dual wielding badass.
>>11910793I mentioned it in eag but it's kind of hard to have a satisfying confusion to the three kingdoms era games narrative wise when the real history just kind of ended with all the kingdoms going to shit on their own before some rando cleans up the mess. Sengoku era had their kickass hype war and a guy who's literally Satan but 3k just sort of stops.
>>11910867I think Koei had the right idea stopping at Wuzhang Plains in DW games prior to 7. At least you could stretch the lifespans of Liu Bei and Cao Cao to 234 to keep things interesting.
>>11911047Red Cliff is the money shot anyways
>>11905891 (OP)My stoner friends did in high school on ps2. Admittedly it is more fun inebriated but they're pretty braindead desu.
>>11909576Looks better than the PS2 Dynasty Warriors games imo. The controls are kind of awkward though, with one button for left attack another for right.
>>11910572yeah they made 9 of them because they don't sell well.
fucking retard.
>>11911554>yeah they made 9 of them because they don't sell well.>fucking retardImagine being so incomprehensibly fucking stupid that you don't understand the core concept of "shovelware", content that is so easily and cheaply produced that it can be thrown out onto the market and still make a profit by only selling a few thousand copies, where despite the hundred sequels to Dynasty Warriors, it's not even in the top 100 highest grossing video game franchises of all time. There are over around 60 mainline entries in the Dynasty Warriors/Samurai Warriors franchise, including spinoffs, meaning that it averages around 325,000 units per title, which is generous considering one of the latest mainline entries in the series, Dynasty Warriors 9, only sold 117,495 units, while the most bombshell explosive hugely successful of all time release from the franchise was Dynasty Warriors 4, which sold a measly 2.2 million units, less than the first Baldur's Gate.
Kill yourself you dumb fucking inbred cunt.
>>11905894I wish I had friend to play this series with. Playing alone means you're babysitting the NPCs you don't control.
>>11911861>the core concept of shovelwareHeh, you have not mastered the rules of the imterwebs.
Nothing persenel, kid.
>>11905891 (OP)>games are le bad because....le no stylish rank gayge...
>>11905891 (OP)Romance of the Three Kingdoms is a kino war time story, unlike one-sided westoid war fps #823848484
Same with the Gundam spinoffs
>>11909574Didn't this led to that one awful lawsuit between Cap and Koei?
>>11909948As someone who beated the NES original, i was a little disappointed the final boss was just the penultimate boss in the Mysterious Castle mode.
>>11905891 (OP)My sister-in-law loves these.
>>11911861yeah they kept making DW games because they don't sell well.
fucking retard.
>>11907889Good thing we are in/vr/ then, also, hack and slash is the spiritual successor of beat em ups and they were big.
>>11906449Always liked Zhang Liao but one of the newer ones gave Huang Gai a fucking canoe as his weapon and he surfs around on it
I remember when I was much younger I was a very Pro Shu kind of kid. Toei really liked to put the spotlight on them as the good guys, for want of a better term. And while I do think we should separate the history and fiction it did make me rethink the other factions a lot. Wei and Wu were hardly despots. At least compared to any other warlord.
>>11910218>Third, DW2 is easily the toughest of themYou clearly haven't played the PC port of DW4. They specifically upped the AI's aggression hard in that port for us gaijins.
>>11908912>Dw games are great games once you treat them as battlefield management and not generic beatemups. Almost impossible to do that for the newer games, lol.
Remember when breaking a thousand kills was a challenge?
>>11907989>filtered by EDF
I do feel like a lot the newer games tend to focus more of spectacle and bloat. I spent last week playing WO3 and while it was fun I hit burn out hard. Especially with how long it takes to unlock everyone. The older games felt.... I don't want to say simpler because I don't mean this dismissively but there was just a better pace to things I think. That said Samurai 4 DX was actually really good.
My favorite is 7 and I know that's a rare opinion. I just really like the OST and the maps in that one.
>>11913395It's rare but not especially controversial.
>>119133957 is pretty cool and it had the best story
>>11913182That was only because of the hardware. Trying to unlock Lu Bu in DW2 took me nearly an hour because of how few enemies actually spawn. Even playing shit like WO3 on a PSP has more enemies spawning in than in DW2.
Currently almost platted Dw8 vanilla but getting 100% voice lines alone is redonkclous-sp you have to use EVERY bodyguard in the ambition mode, let alone getting all extra stages >-@; less than 5 trophy left but.
>>11912079I love Advance. A cute adaption of Dynasty Warriors game for the gba. The battle system was pretty interesting
>>11913054>You clearly haven't played the PC port of DW4Considering I didn't even no one existed, no, I haven't. You might be the only one who has.
>>11913280I think the older map designs understood that there would be periods of time in which you're running across the battlefield for a solid minute or two with no action and that's okay. The levels can be long. An hour long even depending on things like difficulty, character stats, item levels, weapon power, the tactics you use in the battle, and how well you fight. For an hour long battle, you're going to need some downtime. It gives you a breather because things can get tense. Then you're ready to dive back in. There's also an anticipation of arriving at the next fighting spot on the battlefield that gets to build up because of this. It keeps things interesting.
Meanwhile, the newer ones just try to be a pachinko machine simulator. You travel faster across the battlefield. You're always fighting enemies. You get kills that are hundreds at a time with combos in the thousands. Big numbers constantly flash on screen to tell you how awesome you are, but it's all so shallow and meaningless.
>>11905891 (OP)I liked it when I was 12, can't fathom anyone not growing out of musou games
>>11914386I remember in dw3 finding the wooden oxes supply on the plains map randomly and wanting into a castle filled with crossbows and crazy wind traps.
That was fun, you could stumble upon shit in the old games compared to the modern stuff.
>>11913816>That was only because of the hardware.I don't disagree but just because they can do something know doesn't mean they always should
>>11914386The older games had much better pacing because they were more battlefield simulators, as pointed out earlier. The downtime between skirmishes let you check out the situation on the map, read messages, and decide where to go next.
The nonstop action of the newer games is much more "button mashy" than the PS2 series ever was. DW5 gave it the reputation and DW6 onward took it as praise instead of criticism.
>>11914505>I only play retro videogames for grown ups such as myself
did 3 or 4 introduce bodyguards? i can't remember. i want to go back and play them but only one of them but it's been so long and i played so much of both of them.
>>11914874If you enjoy musou games unironically you should kys
>>119148802 had them but 3 is where they really took to shine
>>11914887if you spend your free time on this site unironically you should kys
>>11914915ok so it was 3
i know that 2 did not have them though. 2 was very bare bones
>>11914916Your self hatred is palpable. Really weird
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>bodyguards get killed
>they don't grow stronger
>they get killed more easily on the next stage
>>11914887>I only enjoy retro videogames ironically for I am a respectable adult
>>119149192 would give you followers depending on your player rank. There wasn't any customization or anything but they were there.
>>11914929You're fat irl, I can tell.
>>11914935I can tell your even fatter than him irl
>>11914386The thing is that musou games are always made with casuals in mind--that's why the combat has always been so simple, even when they try to change up the formula (like in DW6 and DW9). Casuals prefer the 10-minute long battles where you just effortlessly genocide gorillions of Asians more than the slow-placed battle simulators of the older games. I usually place casuals into two camps:
>All musou games suck because they're mindless button mashers!>Musou games are good because they let me just relax and play a game without having to think hard about it! Newer games are superior!>>11914680DW7 is where it really killed the gameplay since now, for a large majority of the time, you HAVE to complete the objectives to progress, and there'd be a billion of them per battle. Not completing one would either not progress the battle or cause your allies to get overwhelmed by the enemy (who now has high morale) and lead to 99% of your allies to die.
DW6 did have objectives, but they were optional and the battle would still progress normally even if you failed to complete them (albeit now at a disadvantage).
>>11914919DW2 had bodyguards, nigger.
>>11914958Lol yeah? Post body.
>>11915039It's okay to like girls, Tate
>>11915048You won't post body will you? Mogged.
Has Koei ever done a completely original plot/setting Warriors game not based on another IP or history? It would be cool if they had taken their original Gemfire setting, and expanded it outward via these games(or other genres).
Also would have loved to see Liberty or Death turned into a musou just for the luls.
>>11915039>>11915054>needs to prove himself on an anonymous videogame boardsmall penis energy
>>11915194I proved myself through action. You will never post body fat bitch pussy.
>>11915194....are you just baiting him to show you his penis now?
>>11910782Sorry you have shit taste, anon.
>>11913280Same. DW5, SW2 and Warriors Orochi 2 are my general cutoff for Warriors games. There are a few good ones mixed in here and there that came after those, but for the most part the series peaked there and has become very bloated like you said.
>>11910572>Retarded faggot detected. They're action RPG's.And action RPGs stem from beat em ups and RPGs. My god, they really don't teach kids critical thinking in schools anymore do they.
>>11915236Samurai 4 DX is one of my favorite.
>>11914923>says the faggot spending her time in a thread about games that makes her poop and piss her pantslol
>>11915252Post your fat body. You never will.
I've been encouraged to learn more about non US history because of these games more than any school teacher every inspired me too. And I don't just mean Asian shit either. Hell I'd even say I dug deeper into US after becoming a history fag.
^I love how Koei games make people evacuate their bowels so hardily
>>11915380Same here. I've been wanting a Revolutionary War musou since I was a kid
>>11915380>>11915451Koei's always been a good developer for historyfags
if you like strategy games, their "Historical Simulation Series" (and its subseries like Nobunaga's Ambition, Rot3K, etc) cover everything from various periods of JP and CN history to Genghis Khan to Napoleon to the fucking Revolutionary War
they've also done WW2 games, ofc
>>11915465I wish they did more rpgs like Inido and Uncharted Waters.
>>11906449Made this back in 2016. Never thought I'd have an opportunity to post it.
I just 100%ed DW4. It was comfy. I look forward to playing the other ones.
>>11906873Fuck I miss sengoku basara. I'll never forgive them for not releasing the rest of the games in the west.
>>11915203a real man posts peen
>>11914363Honestly, anyone who huffs about how hard DW3 is should really try the PC port of DW4. It's genuinely really difficult even on the very first battle on the easiest difficulty. The AI's aggression has been cranked up so hard that you can even watch a crowd of generic ally peons juggle Lu Bu. It also has an option to increase the enemy count, but the last time I tried it, it lagged really bad (though I did play it on a shitty laptop back then)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ugQCzHG5tA
well looks like somethings getting a remaster
>>11915853>Origins DLCEven in the anniversary trailer, DW9 runs like ass.
Warriors All Stars gets a 0/10 from me because it didn't have a single Fatal Frame character
>>11916074I want to give it at least a 4 or 5 just for have Toukiden stuff. That game was alright.
>>11916074>>11916087it has Atelier in it so it gets a thumbs up for me
>>11916074I hated how much the game reused maps from DW8 and SW4. Felt less like I was playing a crossover and more like a mod for DW8.
>>11908051How did you make dw5 look like a ps1 game?
>>11916137That's native resolution. Slap a CRT filter or screen on that image and that's basically how it would look back in the day.
>>11915465What game have they done about the Revolutionary War?
>>11916074I dont think it had Rygar either (and no Bomb Jack).
>>11916393Would be cool to see Rygar's model from The Legendary Adventure in modern KT style
>>11916393I was surprised they had some Monster Rancher 2 remixes in the soundtrack, then dumbfounded they even including the jarring "these songs were never meant to loop" transition after 60 seconds.
>remaster announced
Fucking Koei is browsing this board.
>>11916957Lol what, a remaster of a Warriors game? A remaster of the very first one? I mean... cool I guess but for what purpose
>>11916326Liberty or Death. It was released on the Genesis, SNES, PC98, and DOS.
>>11916968>for what purposeAlways the same purpose: To make a few easy bucks from fools
>>11916968Why not? What other purpose? Development between main titles takes so long these days they're just sitting on their dicks waiting for something to sell. Why not sell some of their older titles. I swear it feels like it's only video games where this is confusing. Books movies and albums get rereleased all the time.
The GOAT were the stategic ones (Empire Series) for PS2 and XBOX 360. Campaign maps with a very advanced custom character creator even by today's standards, i would make custom officers for campaigns, for example i liked dota so i would make my character after myself and have 2 officers called Sange (blue aesthethics) and Yasha ( red aesthethics) start with them and make it the mission to conquer lands collecting all the other created officers, managed to make Lion, Lina, Axe, etc., they had a good dose of realism and dificulty, the later games became lamer and lamer and lamer, wayyyyy to many flashing lights, uniforms design went from cool ancient warriors to gay bars with purple neon signs, the difficult also was all over the place in later games, with footsoldiers becoming basicaly braindead and almost never atacking you. Warriors orochi 2 especialy had a very nice aesthethic with a more "dark fantasy" undertone, with monster armies and whatnot.
I'am mostly a PC masteracer today, but i do admit i miss games like the musou series, the ones on PC just feel weird and are wildly overpriced compared to back then. I also liked many of the variants including those from other companies.
Kingdom Under Fire
Sengoku Basara (especialy 2)
Bladestorm
Ninety-Nine Nights 1 & 2( I LOVED these one).
One of my most vivid memories is when i got RROD'd by my 360 when i was on the last stage of pic related.
>>11917159Only a select few autists would want to go back to the admittedly barebones first game unless by remaster they mean like a remake and not a PS2 game with upscaled textures
>>11916968They didn't even say which game would be remastered, you autist. It's most likely gonna be DW5 since that had seventh gen ports.
>>11917247True, I don't even know why I assumed it's DW2, my brain is completely fried so I guess it's because of OP's pic
>>11917241More than you'd think. Nostalgia's a helluva drug and warriors fags clearly have no issue telling you how much they prefer shit in the older games.
>>11905891 (OP)I love them. Very fun games.
>>11917374>OLD BAD, NEW GOOD!Pathetic.
>>11917867Why is it so hard for you people to accept that things that newer aren't always better or at least preferable? Really for someone a retro game board you'd think you get the appeal of sticking to old beloved games.
> new Zelda musou trailer
> it's BotW/TotK wank again
FFFFUUUCKAAAA they're just going to keep doing that shit now, huh?
>>11918502They could have done a compilation of all the wars mentioned in lore, like the civil war before the start of OoT where you play as bandit king dorf leading his army of gerudo bitches.
>>11918502Nintendo has decided thats the only zelda that exists now
I'm more excited for whichever dw is about to be remastered
>>11916074i really liked rio and the deception characters in that game. sucks they're probably stuck being exclusive to that game forever.
>>11918502I wish the newer DW games were even fun. They just keep getting more and more bloated, not only with pointless mechanics, but with bells and whistles and flashing lights and stupid rewards for doing every little thing to the point of feeling like picrel. It's no wonder kids these days have no attention spans, and I realize the irony of me saying that in a thread about the #1 braindead 0 attention span game.
>>11919493desu the person on the right is... right
>>11919493i wish we had legal heroin
>>11919493I don't mind the rewards, but I'm a madman who 100% every adventure map in HWDE. The real issue is that most of them just don't care about the idea of you needing to manage the battlefield beyond "hit square a lot in crowds". DW3 was fun because the game wanted you to be everywhere at once and you had to juggle everything. When you lose that you get the modern hallway simulators like DW8 and AoC.
>>11919640>100% every adventure map in HWDE
>>11917217Wan millyun twoobs. Waaaaaaaow.
When are people going to realize Dynasty Warriors has more in common with restaurant management games than either Final Fight or Devil May Cry?
>>11921913ANOTHER HAS FALLEN TO MY PLATE LUNCH
Dynasty Warriors 3 and 4 was like the golden age for these games, the Samurai Warriors games around that time were great too
>>11905895>>11905891 (OP)They're 3D Gauntlet. you mow down mobs and sometimes a boss fight. only the boss fights are like Beat-em-ups.
>>11907403Diao chan is literally a ho. she shouldn't be fighting.
>>11910218Every game Dynasty Warrior sequel just slightly tweaks the gameplay of 2.
>>11923191DW6 and DW9 begs to differ.
>>11923191Unlike Call of Duty... and Madden... and League of Legends... and World of Warcraft... and Fortnite... and...
>>11907985>That's because you actually played the games. The people saying that never did.Good you should play the games before you have an opinion
> I don't play the Madden games and will gladly say that they're the same shit now that they were 20 years ago. I'd be more right than wrong too.Oh what a hypocritical faggot lol
>>11924162I don't play Madden games does not mean that I didn't play a Madden game.
Don't vs. Didn't
Learn the difference moron.
>>11924105Way to miss the point, every game after DW2 just copies DW2. To claim DW2 isn't a good game you're basically saying the entire franchise is shit because the sequels dont change much
>>11924645DW9 is in no way similar to DW2 (much to the former's detriment)
>>11907819Koei is expert at milking their games.
>Original>XL>EmpiresSame thing in their strategy games (Three Kingdoms and Nobunaga series). Release the original, then release the PUK/PK version, then release the spin-off. Don't forget the DLC too.
>>11927065The lawsuit with capcom buck broke Koei and now they don't do XL versions anymore and just do season pass DLC instead though the content of the season passes are usually much lower quality than what would be in an actual XL game
It's also funny seeing how DW games got affected by the Capcom lawsuit such as Deception 4: Nightmare Princess having literally every single content of the original game + new shit, essentially superseding the original Deception 4 in every way except for trophies.
>>11927669>capcom lawsuitWhat happened?
>>11927692Capcom went after Koei over the concept of selling expansion packs, and won. Funny enough Koei claims that it's water under the bridge at this point but the original Hyrule Warriors is almost completely bereft of anything from the Capcom Zelda games, so...
>>11927697>>11927692Capcom and Koei have had a big rivalry since the NES days.
>>11927702Isn't this that Tenchi wo Kurau game? While they both are based on the Romance of the Three Kingdoms, the gameplay are different. Beside Tenchi wo Kurau sequels are beat 'em ups.
>>11905898What if you practiced basic self control and didn't grind out stupid unlocks for completionism's sake
>captcha 4PHRT
>>11927707I mean Dynasty Warriors are beating enemies too, but it's different from the 2D side-scrolling beat 'em ups.
>>11927709>>11927707Musou games are 3D beatemups.
>>11927714This one is Capcom's version of Samurai Warriors, right?
>>11927692Two things that Capcom had patented:
>Controller vibration that alerts the player when enemies are nearby>MixjoyYou know how in the XL versions it says to insert the disc of the original game to unlock the original game's contents (eg., putting DW7's disc in during DW7XL's mixjoy mode would unlock Story mode and the other mode that the original game had)? That's Mixjoy; unlocking things in one game by putting in the disc of another.
Capcom won the lawsuit, by the way.
>>11927729I should've also added that the lawsuit was first filed in 2014 and only concluded around 2019 (I think).
This is also probably the reason why DW8 Complete Edition (which is just DW8 + DW8XL) started to be sold since they couldn't sell the two games separately anymore.
>>11927729NTA, I knew about the "mixjoy" lawsuit but did capcom ever used that feature in any game? It's early in the morning so my memory can be kinda fucked but I can't think of anything. All I remember is the Konami's Bemani games like Guitar Freaks doing that.