Holy shit what a step back from the Oracles I can't believe the same guys at Capcom made this mess after two of the best 2d zeldas.

>>11907043 (OP)
Good visuals, but little else. I don't think the central concept was weak, but it was simply wasted for a 2D Zelda; the idea of exploring the same environment in two different scales would have worked great in 3D.

All Capcom Zeldas blow ass.

>>11907043 (OP)
>two of the best 2d zeldas.
lol
No.
Minish Cap suffers from all the same problems the Oracles games did. I don't know how anyone can say one is good and the other is bad, they're both bad for all the same reasons.

>>11907176
I don't remember the oracles games having a slow 3d zelda tier start and just 5 dungeons

>>11907180
>I don't remember the oracles games having a slow 3d zelda tier start
I do. From having to talk to all the NPCs at the party to the forced tutorial dungeon, the Oracles games have a very slow start.

>>11907043 (OP)
all three are great and better than links awakening.

>>11907252
They're not even better than LttP, the most boring Zelda game.

>>11907252
LA is better than all of them
>>11907263
Nah LttP still is the worst 2d zelda

I tried to play LA but having to pull up a fucking menu every 5 fucking seconds to change items got old really fast.

>>11907180
Dropped oracles after the incredibly boring start.
LA and MC are way better.
What even is the hook of oracles anyway?
>we made LA 2 but about time... like ocarina... and lttp kinda

>>11907296
The overworld feels huge, something missing in MC which feels small and fragmented

>>11907295
If you always have the sword and shield equipped, switch in an item, use it once, and go back to sword and shield then you're playing the game wrong.
First off, just give up the shield unless it's needed for a specific obstacle (rare). Now you have the sword and one other item always equipped, it should be whatever item you're most likely to use at any particular time. If you're in an area with lots of rocks or pots to lift, just always have sword+bracelet on that entire time, for example.
Second, don't be afraid to unequip the sword and leave it unequipped for a while. If either or both of your equipped non-sword items can kill or incapacitate the enemies you're dealing with, then you just don't need to re-equip the sword. Now you have TWO utility items always available.
Third, get creative and stop leaning so rigidly on certain items to do certain things. This will reduce how often you need to swap items. Let's say I'm in a room with some enemies and have the feather and bracelet equipped because I'm using those two items a lot lately. If there are pots in the room, I'll just use those to kill the enemies without ever having to swap out my items.
I find that 9 times out of 10, when people complain about constantly swapping items it's because they're doing dumb shit like re-equipping the sword and shield after every use of another item. This is a Zelda game where you can remove the sword and shield! Embrace it! Have fun with it! It's the best part of the game!

>>11907296
ages has the best puzzles in the entire series.

>>11907361
No, they're mostly just annoying.

>>11907043 (OP)
For me it has the most immersive 2D Hyrule, sadly almost everything feels like a downgrade. Too little dungeons for a 2D Zelda, Kinstone mechanic is annoying and a pain in the ass to track down, items are underwhelming (it has a lantern as the dungeon item for the penultimate dungeon for fucks sake).

>>11907043 (OP)
What? I love it, I love all three. Whats so bad about moonish cap

>>11907043 (OP)
Agreed 100%. I love the GBC games (LA is still the best by a mile though), and MC was just utter shite. Probably the worst zelda game at its release and remains one of the worst

>>11907043 (OP)
Minish Cap is way too easy even for a Zelda game. I beat it twice and I still don't know if I like or hate the copying gimmick, it has some fun uses but so often it's just used to limit your progression or to open up shortcuts for back tracking by moving a block.

>>11907043 (OP)
Bingo. Gating everything on the overworld behind kinstones was a travesty. About the only nice thing I can say about it is that it wasn't as bad as Phantom Hourglass

>>11907043 (OP)
I liked it.
Actually, I don't think any of the Zeldas are bad.

>>11907043 (OP)
I agree with you, although Ages kind of sucks compared to Seasons. I tried to like MC but the opening sequence is boring as shit and really drags on. Once things get going and you get to the first dungeon, it's very good, then it gets boring as shit again once you get to Death Mountain and it doesn't really recover. I also find the art style detestable and I always thought the shrinking gimmick was stupid.

>>11907115
They are still ill better than alttp

>>11907295
just play the remake

>>11907043 (OP)
it's really not that bad unless you're going for 100%, then it becomes a pure slog.

>>11908203
Id agree with this sentiment. Compared to poorly designed, half finished slop games that get released all the time. Zelda games are always at least designed functionally and playable to the end, save the cdi ones.

>>11907043 (OP)
And I can't believe the guy that made the Oracles was also in charge of 2 of the worst 3D Zelda games ever

>>11910504
doesn't really mean anything. being a director ultimately boils down to being a cuck who tries his best to shift things around to appease investors. the people making the actual game are the ones who get zero credit for it.

>>11910504
You mean 3, right?

Good Zeldas:
Zelda 1
Zelda 2
Zelda 3
Zelda 4 (That's right trannies, we called LA "Zelda 4")

Bad Zeldas:
Oracles (both)
Minish
OoT
TP
WW
SS
4swords
whatever the fuck the train one was called

Not Zeldas:
BOTW

Honorable Mention:
Majora's Mask - closest they got to a Zelda feel post-4.

>>11911489
>old good new bad

>>11907043 (OP)
It's one of those games that get redeemed by the graphics and music. The dungeons are not the most boring in the series either

Feels a lot like aLttP actually, the way the NPCs are all kind of "occupied" by the world has a distinct feeling to it. Kinstone mechanic was an interesting take on side quests although a bit formulaic. Its cool and mysterious how you can progress the whole world in a rhizomatic manner. sucked because my GBA had broken L/R buttons when I played it so I had to sit there and press the buttons over and over again to use kinstones and eventually they stopped working entirely so I couldn't 100% the game

>>11907043 (OP)
It just needed more dungeons.
Why didn't they just use the e-reader?

>>11907295
You just described every Zelda up until TP finally did quick menu for weaponry.

>>11911540
Why are you on the Retro Games Board?

>>11907296
I mean they're pretty much games selling on the hype for OoT

>>11907361
*blocks your path*

>>11907884
*moorish cap

>>11910504
He also directed the one on the Wii too

>>11911489
>>11911489
>Honorable Mention:
>Majora's Mask - closest they got to a Zelda feel post-4.

>>11911737
>NOOOO PLEASE DON'T TAKE AWAY MY SWORD

>>11911706
The saddest and least known fact that the development of Minish Cap was rushed up due to the Nintendo DS being released like weeks prior after it's release.

>>11911737
Fuck those things, wish they let me kill these fuckers after i got all my shit back.

Vaati
That's it, that's the post.

>>11911793
Sex

>>11907043 (OP)
Troll
Minish Chad shits all over cuckracles, they play like they were made by idiots whose first Zelda was Ocarina. Recycling of graphics and music from the far superior LA is unforgivable and makes the cuckracles seem like lazy romhacks which they are.

>>11911793
they did my goat so dirty in this game...

>>11911808
MC recycles music too

The Oracles and Awakening are both just as awful as Minish. You ought to be ashamed.

>>11911815
Minish Cap should have been on consoles, nobody really asked for a Four Sword sequel. A lore-related prequel was goos enough.

>>11911878
LttP is ugly as sin, it's never going to be better or superior than any handheld Zeldas.
Fuck you.

>>11911926
That's because FSA & Tetra Trackers was originally a sequel to a old SNES game Aonuma made.

>>11911928
This, link looks so weird in alttp

>>11911793
There used to be so much Zelda fangirls that fawned off this character, lol.

>>11911928
You're really, really stupid.

>>11912068
>name-calling
Not an argument, snesbabby

>>11912074
You're so stupid that you don't even understand why I'm calling you stupid. And dumber still is the fact that your too stupid to even ask why you're being called stupid. Suffice to say, you're very, very stupid and you've been wrong twice in a row. Care to go for the hattrick?
>here's a hint: learn to read what's actually there and not what you imagine, you dumb schizo

>>11911937
Agreed

>>11912068
Found the furry.

>>11912074
Kek, you made him snob like a little bitch.

This is one of the most boring games I've ever played.

>>11909786
Bullfuckingshit delusional.

>>11912763
>>11912169

>>11912790
Alttp is overrated shit

>>11907043 (OP)
best zelda after majora's mask

>>11913882
>yes I hate dungeons and love shitty tedious sidquestd

>>11907296
MC is the definition of a boring start

>>11907881
I wouldn't mind the small amounts of dungeons if the overworld was at least big but every area just feels like an extension of it's respective dungeon and you just know you will never visit again

>>11911489
Awful taste

>>11911737
>it's okay when BotW does it

>>11909979
>just play the remake

i finally played LA via the remake and i dont really get the contrarianism on why this game is better than LTTP

the argument tends to be "um, it just is, okay??" and "it has mario enemies"

>>11907043 (OP)
Filtered, tongue my anus.
https://youtu.be/466y4j16jXE

>>11907043 (OP)
>what if... the hat is the navi
No thanks!

Game is awesome. Only real complaint I have is the mysterious shells trash.

>>11920456
And too short compared to games on the previous system.

This is like Pokemon Ruby had 4 gym leaders

>>11920395
The hat has a decent personality

>>11911967
For a while, he was also Zelda's Geno.
Now completely irrelevant and forgotten.

>>11908203
>I don't think any of the Zeldas are bad.
Discounting the CDI ones, of course?

Am I gay if I think Toon Link is cute?

>>11924837
no one counts the fucking cdi games in serious discussion

>>11911793
I never got why they gave him the Toon child body type instead of a grown up one