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Anonymous No.11907043 [Report] >>11907114 >>11907176 >>11907252 >>11907881 >>11907884 >>11908057 >>11908143 >>11908172 >>11908203 >>11908228 >>11909990 >>11910504 >>11911546 >>11911706 >>11911808 >>11913882 >>11920381 >>11920395
Holy shit what a step back from the Oracles I can't believe the same guys at Capcom made this mess after two of the best 2d zeldas.
Anonymous No.11907114 [Report]
>>11907043 (OP)
Good visuals, but little else. I don't think the central concept was weak, but it was simply wasted for a 2D Zelda; the idea of exploring the same environment in two different scales would have worked great in 3D.
Anonymous No.11907115 [Report] >>11909786
All Capcom Zeldas blow ass.
Anonymous No.11907176 [Report] >>11907180
>>11907043 (OP)
>two of the best 2d zeldas.
lol
No.
Minish Cap suffers from all the same problems the Oracles games did. I don't know how anyone can say one is good and the other is bad, they're both bad for all the same reasons.
Anonymous No.11907180 [Report] >>11907203 >>11907296
>>11907176
I don't remember the oracles games having a slow 3d zelda tier start and just 5 dungeons
Anonymous No.11907203 [Report]
>>11907180
>I don't remember the oracles games having a slow 3d zelda tier start
I do. From having to talk to all the NPCs at the party to the forced tutorial dungeon, the Oracles games have a very slow start.
Anonymous No.11907252 [Report] >>11907263 >>11907268
>>11907043 (OP)
all three are great and better than links awakening.
Anonymous No.11907263 [Report] >>11907268
>>11907252
They're not even better than LttP, the most boring Zelda game.
Anonymous No.11907268 [Report]
>>11907252
LA is better than all of them
>>11907263
Nah LttP still is the worst 2d zelda
Anonymous No.11907295 [Report] >>11907350 >>11909979 >>11911720
I tried to play LA but having to pull up a fucking menu every 5 fucking seconds to change items got old really fast.
Anonymous No.11907296 [Report] >>11907308 >>11907361 >>11911731 >>11915046
>>11907180
Dropped oracles after the incredibly boring start.
LA and MC are way better.
What even is the hook of oracles anyway?
>we made LA 2 but about time... like ocarina... and lttp kinda
Anonymous No.11907308 [Report]
>>11907296
The overworld feels huge, something missing in MC which feels small and fragmented
Anonymous No.11907350 [Report]
>>11907295
If you always have the sword and shield equipped, switch in an item, use it once, and go back to sword and shield then you're playing the game wrong.
First off, just give up the shield unless it's needed for a specific obstacle (rare). Now you have the sword and one other item always equipped, it should be whatever item you're most likely to use at any particular time. If you're in an area with lots of rocks or pots to lift, just always have sword+bracelet on that entire time, for example.
Second, don't be afraid to unequip the sword and leave it unequipped for a while. If either or both of your equipped non-sword items can kill or incapacitate the enemies you're dealing with, then you just don't need to re-equip the sword. Now you have TWO utility items always available.
Third, get creative and stop leaning so rigidly on certain items to do certain things. This will reduce how often you need to swap items. Let's say I'm in a room with some enemies and have the feather and bracelet equipped because I'm using those two items a lot lately. If there are pots in the room, I'll just use those to kill the enemies without ever having to swap out my items.
I find that 9 times out of 10, when people complain about constantly swapping items it's because they're doing dumb shit like re-equipping the sword and shield after every use of another item. This is a Zelda game where you can remove the sword and shield! Embrace it! Have fun with it! It's the best part of the game!
Anonymous No.11907361 [Report] >>11907373 >>11911737
>>11907296
ages has the best puzzles in the entire series.
Anonymous No.11907373 [Report]
>>11907361
No, they're mostly just annoying.
Anonymous No.11907881 [Report] >>11917025
>>11907043 (OP)
For me it has the most immersive 2D Hyrule, sadly almost everything feels like a downgrade. Too little dungeons for a 2D Zelda, Kinstone mechanic is annoying and a pain in the ass to track down, items are underwhelming (it has a lantern as the dungeon item for the penultimate dungeon for fucks sake).
Anonymous No.11907884 [Report] >>11911750
>>11907043 (OP)
What? I love it, I love all three. Whats so bad about moonish cap
Anonymous No.11908057 [Report]
>>11907043 (OP)
Agreed 100%. I love the GBC games (LA is still the best by a mile though), and MC was just utter shite. Probably the worst zelda game at its release and remains one of the worst
Anonymous No.11908143 [Report]
>>11907043 (OP)
Minish Cap is way too easy even for a Zelda game. I beat it twice and I still don't know if I like or hate the copying gimmick, it has some fun uses but so often it's just used to limit your progression or to open up shortcuts for back tracking by moving a block.
Anonymous No.11908172 [Report]
>>11907043 (OP)
Bingo. Gating everything on the overworld behind kinstones was a travesty. About the only nice thing I can say about it is that it wasn't as bad as Phantom Hourglass
Anonymous No.11908203 [Report] >>11910002 >>11924837
>>11907043 (OP)
I liked it.
Actually, I don't think any of the Zeldas are bad.
Anonymous No.11908228 [Report]
>>11907043 (OP)
I agree with you, although Ages kind of sucks compared to Seasons. I tried to like MC but the opening sequence is boring as shit and really drags on. Once things get going and you get to the first dungeon, it's very good, then it gets boring as shit again once you get to Death Mountain and it doesn't really recover. I also find the art style detestable and I always thought the shrinking gimmick was stupid.
Anonymous No.11909786 [Report] >>11912790
>>11907115
They are still ill better than alttp
Anonymous No.11909979 [Report] >>11920291
>>11907295
just play the remake
Anonymous No.11909990 [Report]
>>11907043 (OP)
it's really not that bad unless you're going for 100%, then it becomes a pure slog.
Anonymous No.11910002 [Report]
>>11908203
Id agree with this sentiment. Compared to poorly designed, half finished slop games that get released all the time. Zelda games are always at least designed functionally and playable to the end, save the cdi ones.
Anonymous No.11910504 [Report] >>11910513 >>11910567 >>11911753
>>11907043 (OP)
And I can't believe the guy that made the Oracles was also in charge of 2 of the worst 3D Zelda games ever
Anonymous No.11910513 [Report]
>>11910504
doesn't really mean anything. being a director ultimately boils down to being a cuck who tries his best to shift things around to appease investors. the people making the actual game are the ones who get zero credit for it.
Anonymous No.11910567 [Report]
>>11910504
You mean 3, right?
Anonymous No.11911489 [Report] >>11911540 >>11911764 >>11911764 >>11918756
Good Zeldas:
Zelda 1
Zelda 2
Zelda 3
Zelda 4 (That's right trannies, we called LA "Zelda 4")

Bad Zeldas:
Oracles (both)
Minish
OoT
TP
WW
SS
4swords
whatever the fuck the train one was called

Not Zeldas:
BOTW

Honorable Mention:
Majora's Mask - closest they got to a Zelda feel post-4.
Anonymous No.11911540 [Report] >>11911724
>>11911489
>old good new bad
Anonymous No.11911546 [Report]
>>11907043 (OP)
It's one of those games that get redeemed by the graphics and music. The dungeons are not the most boring in the series either
Anonymous No.11911557 [Report]
Feels a lot like aLttP actually, the way the NPCs are all kind of "occupied" by the world has a distinct feeling to it. Kinstone mechanic was an interesting take on side quests although a bit formulaic. Its cool and mysterious how you can progress the whole world in a rhizomatic manner. sucked because my GBA had broken L/R buttons when I played it so I had to sit there and press the buttons over and over again to use kinstones and eventually they stopped working entirely so I couldn't 100% the game
Anonymous No.11911706 [Report] >>11911774
>>11907043 (OP)
It just needed more dungeons.
Why didn't they just use the e-reader?
Anonymous No.11911720 [Report]
>>11907295
You just described every Zelda up until TP finally did quick menu for weaponry.
Anonymous No.11911724 [Report]
>>11911540
Why are you on the Retro Games Board?
Anonymous No.11911731 [Report]
>>11907296
I mean they're pretty much games selling on the hype for OoT
Anonymous No.11911737 [Report] >>11911771 >>11911780 >>11919663
>>11907361
*blocks your path*
Anonymous No.11911750 [Report]
>>11907884
*moorish cap
Anonymous No.11911753 [Report]
>>11910504
He also directed the one on the Wii too
Anonymous No.11911764 [Report]
>>11911489
>>11911489
>Honorable Mention:
>Majora's Mask - closest they got to a Zelda feel post-4.
Anonymous No.11911771 [Report]
>>11911737
>NOOOO PLEASE DON'T TAKE AWAY MY SWORD
Anonymous No.11911774 [Report]
>>11911706
The saddest and least known fact that the development of Minish Cap was rushed up due to the Nintendo DS being released like weeks prior after it's release.
Anonymous No.11911780 [Report]
>>11911737
Fuck those things, wish they let me kill these fuckers after i got all my shit back.
Anonymous No.11911793 [Report] >>11911798 >>11911815 >>11911967 >>11925207
Vaati
That's it, that's the post.
Anonymous No.11911798 [Report]
>>11911793
Sex
Anonymous No.11911808 [Report] >>11911869
>>11907043 (OP)
Troll
Minish Chad shits all over cuckracles, they play like they were made by idiots whose first Zelda was Ocarina. Recycling of graphics and music from the far superior LA is unforgivable and makes the cuckracles seem like lazy romhacks which they are.
Anonymous No.11911815 [Report] >>11911926
>>11911793
they did my goat so dirty in this game...
Anonymous No.11911869 [Report]
>>11911808
MC recycles music too
Anonymous No.11911878 [Report] >>11911928
The Oracles and Awakening are both just as awful as Minish. You ought to be ashamed.
Anonymous No.11911926 [Report] >>11911931
>>11911815
Minish Cap should have been on consoles, nobody really asked for a Four Sword sequel. A lore-related prequel was goos enough.
Anonymous No.11911928 [Report] >>11911937 >>11912068
>>11911878
LttP is ugly as sin, it's never going to be better or superior than any handheld Zeldas.
Fuck you.
Anonymous No.11911931 [Report]
>>11911926
That's because FSA & Tetra Trackers was originally a sequel to a old SNES game Aonuma made.
Anonymous No.11911937 [Report] >>11912763
>>11911928
This, link looks so weird in alttp
Anonymous No.11911967 [Report] >>11924821
>>11911793
There used to be so much Zelda fangirls that fawned off this character, lol.
Anonymous No.11912068 [Report] >>11912074 >>11912763
>>11911928
You're really, really stupid.
Anonymous No.11912074 [Report] >>11912169 >>11912765
>>11912068
>name-calling
Not an argument, snesbabby
Anonymous No.11912169 [Report] >>11913041
>>11912074
You're so stupid that you don't even understand why I'm calling you stupid. And dumber still is the fact that your too stupid to even ask why you're being called stupid. Suffice to say, you're very, very stupid and you've been wrong twice in a row. Care to go for the hattrick?
>here's a hint: learn to read what's actually there and not what you imagine, you dumb schizo
Anonymous No.11912763 [Report] >>11913041
>>11911937
Agreed

>>11912068
Found the furry.
Anonymous No.11912765 [Report]
>>11912074
Kek, you made him snob like a little bitch.
Anonymous No.11912776 [Report]
This is one of the most boring games I've ever played.
Anonymous No.11912790 [Report] >>11913116
>>11909786
Bullfuckingshit delusional.
Anonymous No.11913041 [Report]
>>11912763
>>11912169
Anonymous No.11913116 [Report]
>>11912790
Alttp is overrated shit
Anonymous No.11913882 [Report] >>11914708
>>11907043 (OP)
best zelda after majora's mask
Anonymous No.11914708 [Report]
>>11913882
>yes I hate dungeons and love shitty tedious sidquestd
Anonymous No.11915046 [Report]
>>11907296
MC is the definition of a boring start
Anonymous No.11917025 [Report]
>>11907881
I wouldn't mind the small amounts of dungeons if the overworld was at least big but every area just feels like an extension of it's respective dungeon and you just know you will never visit again
Anonymous No.11918756 [Report]
>>11911489
Awful taste
Anonymous No.11919663 [Report]
>>11911737
>it's okay when BotW does it
Anonymous No.11920291 [Report]
>>11909979
>just play the remake

i finally played LA via the remake and i dont really get the contrarianism on why this game is better than LTTP

the argument tends to be "um, it just is, okay??" and "it has mario enemies"
Anonymous No.11920381 [Report]
>>11907043 (OP)
Filtered, tongue my anus.
https://youtu.be/466y4j16jXE
Anonymous No.11920395 [Report] >>11923231
>>11907043 (OP)
>what if... the hat is the navi
No thanks!
Anonymous No.11920456 [Report] >>11922020
Game is awesome. Only real complaint I have is the mysterious shells trash.
Anonymous No.11922020 [Report]
>>11920456
And too short compared to games on the previous system.

This is like Pokemon Ruby had 4 gym leaders
Anonymous No.11923231 [Report]
>>11920395
The hat has a decent personality
Anonymous No.11924821 [Report]
>>11911967
For a while, he was also Zelda's Geno.
Now completely irrelevant and forgotten.
Anonymous No.11924837 [Report] >>11924853
>>11908203
>I don't think any of the Zeldas are bad.
Discounting the CDI ones, of course?
Anonymous No.11924849 [Report]
Am I gay if I think Toon Link is cute?
Anonymous No.11924853 [Report]
>>11924837
no one counts the fucking cdi games in serious discussion
Anonymous No.11925207 [Report]
>>11911793
I never got why they gave him the Toon child body type instead of a grown up one