Super Marip 64 (N64) vs Super Mario 64 DS (Analog controls mod), which one plays the best?

>>11909925 (OP)
Is there mod to remove the stupid hold b to run shit from DS?

Mario 64 DS is one of the worst remake of all time >>11909929

>>11909925 (OP)
Incredible
There isn't a single detail in the remake that looks as good as the original
Every texture looks like shit, the new poligon models look like shit, the colors look like shit

>>11909925 (OP)
I played DS first and was surprised afterwards by how awful the original actually looked.
It was cool to have a handheld console rivaling the power of n64.

>>11909925 (OP)
By all accounts those who are fiends for content will prefer the DS version, but in terms of overall feel, it has nothing on the N64 version despite no changes to physics overall besides glitch fixes. Even with an analog hack, it simply just isn't as fluid.

>>11909925 (OP)

>>11909967
> no changes to physics overall

Wrong the physics is different and worse

You can't long jump+wall jump...
The wall jump have been butchered
The levels are smaller too

DS has some fun new content, it otherwise, it’s the worst way to play Mario 64.

>>11909967
>>11909975
Has no one modded the original to include the DS content yet? You'd think it'd be a shoe in.

>>11909985
The new content is shit

>>11909925 (OP)
Why would you need an analog mod for DS? It plays perfectly fine with digital controls.

>>11909925 (OP)
>which one plays the best?
N64 no contest.

>>11909991
The original stuff isn't anything to write home about in the first place.

>>11909925 (OP)
Soul vs. soulless. SM64DS was impressive for the time but the washed out colors make it a miserable experience.

>>11909973
the levels are the same and the wall jump is easier to perform actually, it's annoying to have to hold back in 64 and sunshine although it's a shame if you can't long jump into one anymore

>>11909925 (OP)
Holy shit how did they fuck up the color palette that bad? Christ the remake is UGLY.

Sovl -> sovless

>>11909925 (OP)
They somehow made the camera worse on DS, playing with the D-pad was not even close to being the biggest problem the game had.

Loved the DS version when I was 15

>>11909991
The new boss levels are cool

>>11909925 (OP)
The DS version desecrates the original

It's an impressive tech demo for the time sure but they should never have released it

>>11909925 (OP)
That's a stupid question

>>11909985
I've got no idea if there's a SM64 hack that has character swapping with unique abilities, that isn't simply something on the PC ports. But even then, it would require a pretty large rebuild of everything in how the game works given how the DS version shifted quite a bit up.

>>11909939
that's definitely an opinion, anon
the new models are almost objectively an improvement. some of them manage to have more detail with a lower poly count, even. I can understand liking the originals better, though
textures in the original were essentially whatever they found in a bunch of texture cds or with their 3d modeling software, in the new one they are unified and more consistent
colors I can take them or leave them. I can see the argument against the soft pastels, but, again, I think the consistency of the remake makes them look better overall

>>11910078
>the levels are the same

Nope their smaller
Try using triple jump to get to the rotating plateforme in the sky level on both versions ,you will see the difference

> the wall jump is easier to perform actually

That's not a good thing
Much more fun and technical in the original

>>11909925 (OP)
Wow wtf I had never seen the DS remake before, why did they fuck up the vivid colours of the OG?

was mind blowing to get it on a handheld at release and I suffered through the controls and got all 150 stars. minigames were dope too

these days since anything can run 64 theres no reason on earth to ever play it. Its not just the shitty controls and graphical downgrade but having to swap between characters was a terrible idea too. luigi trivializes the whole game except for when you HAVE to switch to other characters for a certain cap star. lame.

>>11911054
>the vivid colours of the OG?
Garish

>>11909925 (OP)
DS

>>11909925 (OP)
N64 if you're brazilian, DS if you're mexican

>>11911063
Wacky cartoon hijinx world vs Cleveland Ohio in Autumn

>>11909925 (OP)
DS plays like shit even with the mod. Tricks that are easy to pull off in N64 are a million times harder on the DS. Try doing skips in Big Boo's Mansion and you'll see.

I wish Nintendo was still doing mobile stuff. For all of the ways the DS game was a downgrade from the original, the minigame gallery was so good

>>11909925 (OP)
DS is flawed by virtue of adding content or changing things for the sake of it.
Yoshi is an alright change of pace, but Luigi is just Better Mario for everything except the wall kick/balloon/wing cap stars, and Wario is Worse Mario unless you need to break black bricks or use the metal cap. It's simply not fun to have to go switch characters/grab a cap for things Mario could just do in the original. Likewise I'm struggling to think of new stars (the ones that were added to the courses) that were interesting.
I did like the new courses (Block Fort, the Island, the character stages) or when they expanded out the existing courses (like the area around Whomp's Fortress though I'm struggling to think of other examples at the moment).
Overall though I just don't think the juice justifies all the extra squeeze. If you have to play one, play the original, but maybe play DS if you're looking to switch things up.

I dont even consider it a remake. More of a remix.

>>11909929
The ds needs it because of no joystick.

>>11909925 (OP)
First version of Mario 64 i played, did it control funky a lot? Yes. Did my 13 year old self have amazing time with it? Also yes

>all this hate on the ds version
I had this when it came out and I was just blown away to have 3d mario on a portable system. I beat it, too. If I replay mario 64 now I play the original, but seriously who cares? Pretty brain dead to shit on it so much.

>>11912864
They should swap them so you run by default and walk holding the button, who the fuck would rather walk than run?

>>11912920
>STOP HAVING OPINIONS I DISAGREE WITH

>>11910203
Brawl/Toilet Princess' fault

>>11909929
>>11912864
If you have a hacked 3DS there's a way to play with full analog controls and no run button needed:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rPupGMNYfow

I've set it up a few days ago and it works perfectly

>>11915490
Based TP hater

>>11915490
>>11915530
Since shitting on TP is becoming a popular opinion, how long before contrarianism kicks in and /vr/ starts calling it better than OoT?

>>11915540
We've already been there. There's been plenty of TP dicksuck threads the last few years. The notion just never sticks because OoT is an inherently better game on every objective basis and most people who play both eventually come to this conclusion.

>>11915540
There’s being contrarian and then there’s blatant trolling. Claiming TP or WW are better than OOT is blatant trolling.

>>11915490
It's amazing how OOT is a darker game than TP, yet TP is trying so hard.

>>11915540
it's not better than oot overall, but its dungeons are better than oot's (but not mm's). i think it's got better atmosphere too but that's subjective, there's probably more variety in oot so it's just preference.

>>11909925 (OP)
64DS sucks compared to the original, but the rumours and hoaxes back in the day were intriguing.

>>11912304
>Wacky cartoon hijinx world

>>11910039
A lot of people would vehemently disagree with you, including yourself.

>>11915889
>64DS sucks
I mean, the complains are valid and I agree that the OG is the real experience, but I still enjoy 64DS and when you've played the original a million times, the new content is fun

As much as some of their games deserve to be discussed on this board, I don't agree with the implementation of the DS and PSP into the retro category anymore. The line is too vague. There'd have to be a handpicked and agreed upon list of individual games, which isn't possible to make

>>11909934
>t.

>>11917307
We're not even supposed to discuss DS games but Nintendo gets a free pass
A while ago the board had Nintendo Power threads about Wii era issues
Now imaging if I were to make a Resident Evil 2 Remake thread. It would get deleted practically instantly

>>11917824
Wii will never be retro by design. Waggle is way too much of a casual feature with too many non-game implementations