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>>11909867

first for shit crusted dpads

https://github.com/Trixarian/NetherSX2-classic
is this the go to for ps2 emulation on android?

>>11929775
Artificially induced imperfection. If they had just made the rg34xxsp with a 4:3 screen and no analog sticks it would be perfect, but then they wouldn't be able to sell their next clamshell.

RG-35XX Pro or RG-34XXSP? the price difference is around $15 and the only big difference is RAM amount and screen. The heaviest stuff i plan to play might be ports like morrowind.

>>11930109
the sticks don't really get in the way of anything desu. This isn't like the 406v

>>11930128
but the screen is still smaller... good for GBA but not for other consoles, and the RG35XXSP plays GBA gorgeously with a GBA bezel to fill up the empty space in its 4:3 screen.

>>11930140
If only it was a bit smaller...

>>11930109
I have a grip and use the sticks all the time, even for gba games

>>11930095
that's what I use on my RG Cube and its fine, never tried 4248 though, not interested in uninstalling one and installing the other every time

>>11930204
What's the point of a clamshell if you're gonna use it with a grip

>>11930231
I use a grip with my n3DS, but my hands are fucked. I had to trim some of it off to get it to fit, but it works for me.

>>11930121
RG35XX Pro just because you're not stuck with the GBA aspect ratio when playing everything else

>>11930062 (OP)
Nice handheld but it needs the Genesis/Saturn d-pad for the proper Sega feel.

>>11930062 (OP)
Got the 6 button model and it feels annoying to use. The buttons are too low and don't feel great to use. Anyone wants my unit for 100 eurobucks?

>>11930204
Is using the sticks instead of the D-pad a deliberate choice? With my TSP I also remember using the sticks for pretty much everything but I rarely do the same with my RP5

ive gone from retroid pocket 2+ kickstarter, miyoo mini v1, and then nothing until the rp4p, to just going back to a psp-3000 at this point
i feel enlightened and freed from the chinkheld chains

Just got the MagicX Mini Zero 28. Should I stick with the stock Android or is there any good custom firmware I could install? Honestly the Dawn Launcher has been fine for the hour or so I played around with it, I just need to figure out hotkeys to stop using the virtual mouse half the time.

>>11930558
not sure if there's anything better than Dawn yet, but its been fine for me. If MuOS get ported to it I'd move to that but that's about the only one

>>11930062 (OP)
I'm going to play on my tablet after I'm done shitposting. What are you guys using and what are you playing? I hope everyone here has a comfortable and fun friday night, we all deserve it after such a rough week.

>>11930558
there's minui, but i tried it on the trimui brick and didn't like it. it's not the same as old minui on the trimui model s.
so, stick to android for now.

>>11930748
Dragon Warrior III GBC on my Cube XX and replaying WarioWare for probably the hundredth time on the Miyoo Mini

Potatophone sorry, but I just found out that people found a workaround for the shitty "time-bombed" firmware on those R4 carts a couple years ago. Pretty happy to dust off the DSL again and play roms without that kludgy chinesium menu

>>11930748
Most recent handheld play was Puyo Puyo Tsuu on wonderswan, most recent game is GBO2 on pc.

>>11930250
Your hands aren't fucked, the 3DS is.

>>11930121
Definitely stick to bog standard 4:3 resolutions or 16:9 if you have ports in mind, some end up lacking control over resolution.

>>11930784
I also picked up a new shell and thick glass screen for a PSP 3000 I mostly use for Genesis/SNES emulation. The shell is a surprisingly good quality one off Aliexpress, but I'll still keep the original buttons and triggers

>>11930836
I would keep the original shell if it's in good shape overall (seems to be) and install the glass lens. The aftermarket 3000 shells are ok but they are noticeably flimsier than Sony's.

>>11930062 (OP)
Looking to buy my first (chink) handheld. I want something cheap so PS1 and below at around 50$. They're pretty much all H700 based so its going to be a form factor/build quality/extra features distinction.

Right now I'm looking at either the trimui brick or the RG cube XX.
The Brick has the edge in terms of portability and pretty much has everything you could possibly want for PS1 and below. It also looks great.
I'm also looking at the RG cube XX because it looks very comfortable and because of its screen. It looks great and I like shmups so having the ability to play vertical aspect ratios is a bonus for me. Although I've head it can struggle with later arcade machines.

If you were to buy your first chinkheld today what would you buy? There's so much stuff around from the last year or so I don't really know what to choose.

>>11931004
I'd recommend the cube over the brick due to better CFW options, but both are fine for PS1 and below.
If I was to buy my first chinkheld it'd be the v90s, its not for everyone but I love it

>>11931004
I have both of these and I think they're both good picks.
The CubeXX is kind of a unique device for me as I only play Game Boy and SNES games on it since the aspect ratio is too unusual. 4:3 consoles scale fine for things like PSX, but something like GBA that's 3:2 looks pretty weird on it. Also if you want to set up overlays, it can be a lot more annoying on trying to set them up on a 720x720 screen. But for the systems that benefit from a square screen, I love it and pretty much only play them on the Cube. It's also really ergonomic and it's the easiest device to hold for hours at a time, I don't know how Anbernic can sell a flat metal rectangle with no grips for $250 after coming up with the Cube/CubeXX almost a year prior for a fraction of that.
The Brick is 4:3 and is therefore looks a lot more natural with most consoles. Even consoles with unusual ratios like GBA can look normal with a bezel overlay. Aside from that, the screen is really high res and also gets bright as fuck, probably the best screen on a handheld that isn't an OLED or >$100. It's a small screen and small device though, and vertical handhelds in general can make some peoples hands cramp up after a while. Also the custom firmware for the Brick is not as mature as Anbernic's XX line. You're basically limited to MinUI forks and Knulli on the Brick.
If you just want something that can do almost everything you need it to, I'd get the Brick. If you're looking for a specific use case like shmups and really feel like you'd benefit from a unique console for that, the CubeXX is definitely worth it if you don't mind the screen showing it's quirks at times. They can both be found on AliExpress for around $50 like you said. Enjoy whatever you end up going with.

I have no interest in clamshells

>>11931150
well yeah, they're for big guys

>>11930891
I feel that, but the silver PSPs have the same curse as the old gold Game Boy Pocket where the finish feels like it's spray painted on. Pic isn't mine but it's very similar. This is also the second shell I've bought because the first one was obviously flimsy like you were saying and went straight into the trash. This one cost about ~US$40 compared to the other 3D printed trash out there

I'm keen to do the whole thing because it'll look great with the original grey buttons and that thick glass. Also because it'll be Mine after buying it secondhand if that makes sense. I take care of my silicon-based children and don't want to see scuffs and scratches from the previous retard that owned it

Red pill me about black frame insertion

>>11931169
For you

Six face buttons
Six shoulder buttons
Four back buttons

It’s gaming time

>>11931106
Since you have both can you confirm that you get more or less the same or bigger window size with the cube compared to the brick playing the wider ratio consoles? I can handle some amount of black bars if at least I get a good display size. I can make do with blur shaders or overlays.

>>11930836
based
added glass lens to my 3000 last week too

>>11931339
Why six shoulders?

>>11930836
I need to get around to refurbishing my ds lite some day. I bought some parts for it a while ago but the shoulder buttons didn't arrive so I just cancelled the idea for the time being.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=up1YM3t3ey0
Wasn't aware they made a metal one

>>11931340
You should be fine with that. Here is a pic of the Brick and Cube running a GBA game with no overlays or shaders as an example.

>>11931340
Use the screen utility on OP to check. GBA on CubeXX is pretty okay, nets the same size and integer scaling as the 34xx. Before I grabbed one, I was playing GBA with this overlay on (default on muOS? not sure, got it from their pisscord anyway, Duncan's).

>>11931004
Also, my two cents on the topic is verticals are no good if you're gonna use the shoulder buttons in any real capacity.

Got this grip for my flip.
Its good. I paid way too much for shipping into EU though.
Oh well.

Could somebody walk me through the process of making and configuring an executable from any N64 decomp project that will work on a Miyoo Mini (in my case, a Miyoo Mini Plus)? Such as how Mario 64 has been ported to the Miyoo Mini. I have OnionOS installed on my Miyoo Mini Plus. It would be cool to get a library of these games running natively on my Miyoo.

>>11930836
that's a 2000

HINGE CHECK
IS YOUR HINGE STILL OK??

>>11932071
sorry, i am unhinged

>>11932071
both my flip2 and ambernig SP are still fine.

>>11931683
Aftermarket DS lite shells are complete fucking shit. They barely fucking fit. Keep as much of the OG shell as possible. I replaced one for my brother and I was embarrassed returning it to him. It was this shit.
>>11931905
>>11931898
>>11931874
Thank you so much. This helped a lot. I'll be going with the cube. I really liked the pocketability and looks but the versatility of the cube is more appealing to me. Also comfort.

What's the closest thing to a 40XX H with no sticks? Strong enough for PS1 and under, nice large screen, and horizontal formfactor. I love my 40XX, but the sticks just feel like shit and I'd rather not even have them in the first place.

>>11932071
Flip 2 still fine, was playing Tactics Ogre on it yesterday.

>>11932343
>sticks just feel like shit
take out the plastic led rings then
you wont find anything with as perfect a form factor as the 40xx H.
wish it had better quality plastic but oh well

>>11930836
playing nintendo software on sony hardware is peak

>>11932683
t.reddit

>>11932683
i had a really nice summer once where i got really obsessed with castlevania and played IV and sotn on my psp. i think that was the same summer i discovered ace combat too, played X and X2.
my life isnt so nice anymore but those are good memories

>>11932317
Oh I'm keeping the shell, there's nothing wrong with it. I just need to swap out the membranes for the d-pad and face buttons and the shoulder button switches.

>>11932692
post your handhelds anberslops dont count
>>11932696
sounds cozy anon, i just got recently bit by the psp nostalgia bug too

Why is the R36S shilled so hard as a budget handheld? Every other post I see about it is people complaining that they got an EmuELEC clone or general build quality issues. And it's like $35 on AliExpress. Do people really need to save the extra $10-$15 a brand new Anbernic/Trimui/etc vertislop would cost over it? Is there somewhere where people are getting these things for like $15 that would somewhat justify the hype?

What is the maximum capacity memory card psp can support?

>>11932826
Because the 3326 is the KAMISOC and you literally do not need anything more.
It used to be $20. sometimes $15.
Nowadays just get a G350 or save up an extra $20 for an RG40xxh

>>11932780
>post your handhelds anberslops dont count
Got all of them except the Ambersloop. (Ignore the RG35XXSP, ended up selling it, absolute trash. Missing the Steam Deck too, but it died from a short circuit. This week I was this close to grabbing a boxed Game Boy Color, but $200 felt insanely overpriced considering I’d end up doing an IPS mod anyway and have to ditch the original shell.)

>>11932852
Open a blog, loser.
We do not care about your homoerotic opinions.

>>11932883
Stay mad

>>11932891
stay gay

>>11932852
"Agarcharse"

LMAO ORA'LE MIJO, TIME TO COOK THE FRIJOLES TO FEED YOUR NINE SIBLINGS

>>11932852
>Uses Windows
PLEB

Working on my handheld shelf, got a few more Gameboy mods in the works

>>11932852
Did an oled mod for my gbc, no regrets... Very very cool screen

Any cheap gbc/gba compatible I can use to backup my games' saves? I'm in Italy btw

>>11933129
Bing bing wahoo

>>11933129
>>11933141


Its'-A-Me! A-Mario!

>>11933141
>>11933221
Mamma mia :^)

>>11933129
compatible what?

>play gba on rg35xxsp and notice that the controls are kinda clunky, and laggy
>try the same gba games on 3ds and there's a huge difference, clunkyness totally gone
>try the rg35xx for the hell of it.
>Not as responsive as 3DS but feels much better than the sp.

How. Am I going crazy? I see no reason why the sp should have more input lag, RA settings are the same. Even with run-ahead enabled it's bad.

>>11933129
Cart dumpers arent all that expensive, but if you own a DS + flashcart you can dump GBA saves, and if you have and N64+transfer pak+ flash cart you can dump gb/gbc saves and I’ve never tried but I bet there’s a way to do it on a GC/wii with the gba link cable

>>11933486
Nothing beats OEM hardware. Simple as.

Arc-D bros...did we lose?

>>11933486
Do you have any issue on non gba games?

>>11932071
You cannot fathom the perfect clamCell.

>>11932848
'bout same as Johnny Mnemonic's head.

>>11932071
Binge on an so is doing rough but hanging in

>>11932848
Highest recommended is 128GB. That's about 120-130 games in .iso. It can handle higher capacity than that but the xmb gets really slow browsing games.

>>11933526
True, too bad the 3ds's screen is not optimal for GBA.
>>11933767
Only tried GBA, so I can compare the difference in running it native. First I thought it was because I used muOS on the SP, which uses gpSP by default, but mGBA shows the same problems. It feels like there is additional lag coming from the hardware itself.

>>11933531
You win by accepting it's the perfect device for mega drive, CD and a limited selection of saturn games and that's it. Arc-S is cheaper and android is unnecessary but the transparent shell just doesn't sit right with me

>>11934214
Try a portmaster game and compare it to pc, would also think it is hardware issue but could also be emulator config still

>>11933502
Last time I checked the dumpers the expedition to Italy was more expensive than the dumpers themselves thou, despite being pretty small and light.

In any case, thanks, I do have a nds, I just need to get a flashcard.

>>11934525
The screen mount is different too, I can never recall which is which.

>>11934214
Why not just play on GBA?

Upgraded from an RG351MP to an RG405M

and honestly I kind of hate it. I really don't like the Xbox style stick layout on a handheld, it just feels weird, but also this doesn't feel as much like an upgrade. PS2 games are unplayable. Gamecube games are barely playable. The only game I've noticed an upgrade to is Gran Turismo 2 which was a bit sluggish on the 351 and runs perfectly on the 405M.

Will installing Gamma OS unlock enough power to play at least some PS2 and Gamecube games? I tried once and it temporarily ricked the damn thing, had to reflash the OS back to the original. The main games i want to play are Champions of Norrath, Dragon Quest VIII, Dark Cloud and generally things that are good "airplane" games that don't require a ton of hand eye coordination.

is PS2 and Gamecube emulation on a pocket sized handheld possible? or should I sell this thing, get a bigger and more powerful handheld (like a retroid pocket 4 plus or 5) and just stick to my RG351MP for SNES and PS1 games?

>>11934907
I dunno.

>>11934907
I tell you people every time you ask that T618 is not a PS2/GC chip, where were you? Gamma won't save you, it'll just give you remarkable idle savings. T820 would be a step up but not ideal, D8300 is beefy (stronger than the snapdragon on RP5) for proper scaling but Anbernic's Android build still needs work and the Mali GPU doesn't work well on certain other systems like Switch, Wii U, etc. RP5 would be your best bet for now, or if you're fine with just waitingTM RP6 or Mini 2 should happen 2026 Q1 looking at their usual release schedule.

>>11934907
As for high power pocketables, the market isn't covering that. Closest would be the Flip 2 I guess, but some cracked hinges have popped up lately.

>>11934939
I generally stay out of these threads until I need a new one because the more I lurk here the more I would want to buy something I don't need, but thanks. I'll look into a retroid pocket 5 or just bite the bullet on a steam deck or another PC based handheld for PS2 games.

>>11932683
You're like an old person that puts plastic on their furniture.

>>11935039
is the dsi xl worth buying

>>11934939
odin 2 is still the best value

>>11935046
yeah, pretty much best way to play ds on a large but still pixel perfect screen.

>>11934567
Might try that.
>>11934727
All GBAs have horrible screens and I don't want to mod one.

>>11935039
i mean i guess, just like to keep my electronics mint condition

>>11934907
Despite what Youtubers from that time period like to say about the 405M and other T618 devices, they were absolutely nowhere near powerful enough to actually play PS2 and Gamecube games, even with PAL roms or whatever frameskips they use. In order to achieve that, you'd need a device with like a Dimensity D1100 minimum or Snapdragon equivalent.

>>11934930
Some help you are, dipshit.

>>11935119
wabi sabi, my man

I got my RG353V. The touch screen is broken. I opened it up and couldn't eyeball anything wrong with the board and I cba to probe it with a scope or DMM. Not really interested in the touch screen and I unplugged the wifi antennae and duct taped it to the side.
I installed ArkOS and its OK but how do I get doom wads and heretic running on this? My last dinky chinesium handheld has a bunch of doom and build engine games in the main menu. This has almost nothing in the menu. The awful android based OS isn't going back in it either.

>>11935328
>did some light googling
>apparently I need to use fucking bash scripts to start games like stardew valley or DOOM wads on ArkOS
these things belong in the fucking dumpster why is this general tolerated?

>>11935328
>>11935331
skill issue

>>11935331
Did AI tell you that or did you reach that stupid conclusion on your own?

>>11935106
Ags 101 is fine. The ITA screen kits using the new screen are excellent and super easy to mod anon

Found my old brick gameboy again.
Two things I noticed it does better than most handhelds these days:
-Its thick so you can wrap your hands around it well which means you wont get handcramps as eaily
-the d-pad and buttons are nice and big. especially the buttons on modern handhelds are way too tiny.

>>11935891
>he plays on a real game boy
poor lmao

>estimated ship date of August 8 for the chinkroid dual-screen
>still not shipped
Ship my shit reeeeeee

>>11932683
>proprietary memory carda

>>11936046
>doesnt know about $2 microsd-to-mspd adapters that solved this years ago
:^/

>>11936070
Even worse was vitas memory card format. Like memory stick wasn't proprietary enough.
Yes adapters exist now but still

>>11935891
anbernic used to do big face buttons, but shrunk them when miyoo became popular.

>>11936081
The Vita's proprietary mem cards still made zero sense in hindsight. Its not like Sony was working on other products that would use them, they were only for the Vita at a time when SD cards were taking off.

>>11934907
>Ricked
You got Rickety-Rickety-Wrecked Son

CAPTCHA:N0DAD

Is there any retroid handheld which does up to PS2 and doesn't have ass build quality or uncomfortable ergonomics

>>11936204
Ayn and Retroid are the same company if you're into wrong stick placement.

>>11931874
I wish the Cube didn't have those two useless sticks. OR I preferred there'd be just a stick and the 4 buttons, dassit. Why is there not a single company going for this design?

>>11936214
odins have based stick placement

>>11936216
the dark blue NGPC gave me a lifelong boner for blue marble/camo patterns. such a good looking handheld.

>>11930062 (OP)
Hello great friends, what chinkheld under 100$ has the fastest responding (but also lowest latency) screen? I want to play shmups on my handheld. Is Anbernic any good?

>>11936262
>fastest responding
>lowest latency

>>11936241
why did no one attempt this design again since the NGPC lol. It's not fucking science that this is the superior design for horizontals

>>11936270
>1:1
>mono
>kinda overly tall

Eh. Unless I have one in my hands to see if it is comfortable, it doesn't look very impressive. Also I get the feeling the clicking of the microswitch pad would get annoying fast.

>>11936270
the handheld race became a matter of pure gimmicks.
>dude, this thing has TWO SCREENS! that means TWO TIMES the action...
>dude, this thing is like... a portable Playstation... that means games.. and guess what else? yeah, it also means your favorite movies: on the go. you can watch the hottest hits of the year like Dodgeball and The Polar Express on this baby...
nobody gave a fuck about an idealized handheld that just played games, at least not after the GBA.

What's the best way to play shoulder-based (aka non pokemon) GBA games and not have them look like overblown saturated messes?
I'm emulating on Vita but only mGBA has low input latency but introduce some audio skipping.
Seems like it would be the 34XX since clamshell triggers are god awful

>>11936282
what's there for us humble gamers that prefer sleek minimalist design? I like your philosophy.

on a semi-related note since you mentioned GBA, what is your preferred way of playing this boy

>>11936262
Go for magicx zero 40, it's made for tate

>>11936308.
i'm not the best guy to ask honestly, i stopped playing handhelds a long time ago. just saw that pic of the NGPC and offered my two cents. these days, if i get the rare itch to play a handheld game, i'd just be emulating it on my PC. i'm sure somebody on here can give you recommendations for a chinkheld, but gun to my head, i'd probably just go with a normal horizontal GBA with a backlight mod and a flash cart.

>>11936320
thank you for your honesty. I think I will just get a deck at this point.

>>11936267
Isn't screen latency the time it takes for the pixel to receive a signal (IE image processing induced lag), but response time the time it takes to actually change color? Or am I wrong here.

>>11936310
That looks kind of neat especially for vertical shmupping but I'm looking for something that's also a general purpose all rounder, just with a good screen.

>>11936262
>>11936340

CubeXX with MuOS

you now remember the Powkiddy v20. Did ANYONE buy this?

>>11937304
Word on the street is Powkiddy is dropping Linux entirely because they're not profitable, so prolly not.

Between DS Lite and DSi (non-XL), is there any difference in the screen?

>>11936337
I don't know why anon pointed this out specifically, but screen alone isn't sufficient when talking about handleds for response time/input lag.
It also heavily depends on the controls, the OS, and the emulators' performances. I don't know if i'm naive, but i wouldn't trust any android device with input latency due to horror stories in android rhythm games

(Continuing from >>11937375 )
Just thought about it, but some of the emulators you can use run-ahead to reduce input lag. Tested a bit on the gkd pixel 2 (it has similar specs to lots of recent handhelds) it can handle 1f of run ahead in snes (tested with Pocky&Rocky, 2 have rare audio crackling in first stage, 3 have actual slowdowns) and 2-3 on pc engine (tested with parodius da, but i don't know the game so unsure what speed it is supposed to have).
If input lag is such a problem to you, maybe you should consider saving up for an analaogue pocket instead since it uses an fpga

>>11937396
Bad screens can add a ton of lag and be the largest source, I've experienced it. The other thing is that they all seem to use these modern mobile processors, as long as the processor is fast enough and the device works with Linux, I'm thinking it might be OK. I don't mess with using wireless or screen casting, that will probably be horrible.

>>11938241
it can add some for sure, but in the case of a handheld I seriously doubt it would play more than up to a frame to be honest
Non handheld screens that tends to have stupid response times usually are tvs because their main goal is to display non interactive content, it's rare to see monitors with more than 10ms response time.
In a handheld you also can't really test the screen separately from everything else, like the physical controls are built in and might be the source of lag; that's why anon should look at more than just the screen. Going for a beefier handheld could let him crank up the run ahead frames by 2 extra frames from instance, which would be equivalent to a 32ms input lag reduction.
(but considering the japense guy who beat inbachi did it on the 360 port first, lag isn't so much of an excuse if he wants to play shmups)

>>11938325
Personally I view run ahead as a crutch for bad hardware. You're absolutely right about TV's though but monitors having less than 10ms delays seems a bit too optimistic. That's less than one frame but the best gaming monitors are doing around 2-4ms. Too hard to believe for me. Most input lag I believe is from wireless controllers, directly connected controls have very little lag and everything else comes down to how well the emulator can run and the screen, including the additional processing required to output it. The physical hardware part of the screen is like response time which manifests itself also in things like ghosting, blur, etc. it's why companies advertise high frame rates and low response times and stuff. I'm not an expert though so maybe someone can correct some of this.

>>11937367
DSi has bigger screens.
they are the perfect size if you ask me, DS lite screen are a tad too small.

>>11937304
nobody likes vertislops with analogs and mono speaker.

>>11938401
No it doesn't.
Same resolution, same screen size, same pixel density.

>>11937304
I didn’t understand the logic behind the V20 at all. At least with the RGB30/20SX there’s a novelty factor with its 1:1 720p screen, but there’s a glut of 4:3, 3.5” 480p handhelds on the market. What’s the point in creating one more?

WHERE THE FUCK IS THE MANGMI

>>11938462
Still doesn't seem to be available to people outside of China for normal prices. The only person I've heard receiving one is Jewy, who said it should be arriving any day now for review.

>>11938462
Why not just buy a Retroid?

>>11938506
Because it supposedly plays perfect N64 Dreamcast and PSP and is allegedly going to retail for $60-$70 vs $200+ for a Retroid.

>>11938541
Buy once, cry once.

>>11938549
I own a flip 2 and I think you're stupid

>>11938424
the DSi has two 3.25-inch screens, while the DS Lite has two 3-inch screens

>>11938578
You're right. Checked myself, and they're slightly larger on the DSi.
My mistake.

DSi XL is better. You get those nice chunky gridlines on the bigger screen.

>>11938560
Buy a hinge, feel the singe.

>>11938607
Why not get the New Nintendo 3DS XL instead?
You can find refurb'd LLs for cheap.

whats the next big thing for the retro handheld scene?

>>11938669
Dual screens

>>11938680
chinks will never master hinge technology

>>11938424
i own both.

>>11938607
too big.
dsi is the perfect size.
new 3ds ds upscaling looks like crap and it's too small on native res.

>>11938662
DS games look one of two ways on 3DS:
>tiny
>smudged to shit
Even on the XL/LL, they're smaller than on a DS in 1:1 pixel scaling mode. It's just not a good way to play DS.

>>11938662
NTA but aspect ratio for original DS games is either stretched or with heavy black bars that end up like pic related. I do have both devices, but I definitely play more DS than 3DS, so it's worth considering what your primary use case will be. Also if you care about the TN/IPS lottery, the DSi XL is guaranteed to have IPS screens. One last thing, 3DS prices are pretty inflated right now compared to older DS models. You can get a DSi LL with charger in good condition for around 60 bucks over like >200 bucks for a New 3DS LL.

>>11938706
Anbernic already confirmes they're making a dual screen. I don't recall if the employee implied two devices or one device that can run both android and linux

>>11938607
It looks too bulky honestly, the main reason I ended up playing 3DS XL way less than I expected to. DS Lite felt like the perfect size

>>11938669
Replacement PSP Gos.
I dont know if they'll be anywhere near as pocketable though, so I got one in case. Its pretty small...

>>11938380
>That's less than one frame but the best gaming monitors are doing around 2-4ms
10ms response time is an overestimation of what those consoles probably do. Response time is actually way below 1ms for high end monitors; response time of a screen is just one of the component that can make the image feels laggier between 2 screens, but hardly is the main factor.
Refresh rate also plays a role, but all those cheap handheld will be used at 60hz anyway.
> Most input lag I believe is from wireless controllers, directly connected controls have very little lag
Depends on the quality of the controller, like iirc the ps4 and switch controllers have less lag in bluetooth than wired.
> and everything else comes down to how well the emulator can run and the screen, including the additional processing required to output it
Running the emulator is the main source of input lag, otherwise you wouldn't see so many comparison between fpga and computer emulators on input lag; even on the best screen in the beefiest PC you can imagine, the PC would still have more lag than the fpga unless using run-ahead or tweaking the emulator's settings in general.

>>11938669
xperia play clones since the patent expired. Ayaneo is making one.

China tariff truce is going to be extended for another 90 days, so that's good for the burgerbros that like buying chinkshit.

>>11939153
i acutally need a chink controller, but I'm not sure if any have a clicky control stick like the ngpc or the ngx

>>11938669
The ClamCell™..

>>11939298
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SSfHVH08N3E

>>11938726
Sharp filter hacks for ds games on 3ds are pretty decent

My fucking brick died on me. No charging light, no power, nada. This is of course after I got a custom engraving for the back.

>>11939610
Disconnect the battery for 5 minutes plug it back in while holding the power button. If it still doesn't turn on, it's truly tucked which does happen on devices like these. Could be emmc failure.

>>11937314
Aside from the rgb20s, v90, and early 3326 handhelds since those were the first clones, powkiddy's android line always did better. A powkiddy rep stated their linux handhelds only sold for being preloaded with rims which powkiddy wants to move away from. The x28 is actually the best selling t618 device domestically and pk's most popular device in general if you can believe it.

what's the best screen replacement for a gba?

can't believe there's nothing to talk about with chinkhelds anymore

>>11940296
ya chinkhelds are getting to smartphone levels in terms of plateauing, but not complaining fuck all the slop

>>11938717
>Even on the XL/LL, they're smaller than on a DS in 1:1 pixel scaling mode
Wrong
The XL models actually have a lower DPI than the non-XL OG DS models, which means the image will be bigger on a 3DS XL in pixel perfect mode

>>11939610
Try unengraving it

>>11939153
In that case I’ll hold off buying an RP5 for now

>>11939594
this looks like shit man

>horizontal
>linux
>no joysticks or good joysticks
why does this not exist apart from the steam deck

>>11940546
Hah, jokes on you, neither screenshot was of a 3ds
This proves how full of shit you are, and how you are always btfo in these threads

>>11940702
Left is literally an N2DSXL, which has a screen with the same size and resolution has the N3DSXL

>Look up chinkheld reviews.
>glowing praise. temped to pull trigger.
>check reddit
>"Fun for 6 months. Then the buttons stopped responding, popped off, console cracked in half, battery blew up 10x it's size and burned down my house"

So are some companies more reliable than others or are they all about equally sketchy on quality? Was considering Odin Portal 2 or RP5.

>>11940807
My oldest working chinkheld is my analogue pocket. the true champ

>>11940807
Some companies are more reliable than others, but at the end of the day, it's all Chinesium. Even devices people generally vouch for still have their problems. The first chinkheld I had was the Miyoo Mini Plus, which people still praise all the time. Like 3 months in my screen started popping out a few times when the device got hot from playing demanding games. When I looked it up, the consensus was "yeah, it kinda just does that sometimes just open it up and tape it".
These devices are really only meant to last for a few years, and it's expected that by the time they break they are either superceded by something more powerful for the same price, or are cheap enough that it'd be easier to buy a new one than replace the broken parts. There's anecdotes about Ayaneo and to a lesser extent Retroid having shit QC and certain devices like the Miyoo Flip having a ticking timebomb hinge, but honestly just pick something and as long as it doesn't have a million red flags about it online it'll probably last if you take care of it. If you're really worried though, the company that makes those handhelds you mentioned have decent customer support as long as you aren't a Chinese customer

my dingoo a320 is still working. the chinks don't make em like they used to.

>>11939610
hehehe brick

>>11940807
The ultimate blackpill for chinkhelds is they can all break from a feather. Emmc failure, shit batteries, poor qc, it happened with every company.

>>11941003
I think the only reason powkiddy isn't a meme in China is because thier customer support there is actually decent.

>>11939610
Have you tried resetting it?

>>11940807
Anbernic is pretty solid and good quality in my experience. The best of the cheapest, way more solid than Miyoo.

My RG280V has been going strong for 3 years and working great. Several drops, barely scratched.

>>11940807
Chinkhelds must be judged individually, companies are too erratic. These two should be okay.

>>11940807
Wait for the Steam Deck 2

>>11940807
>So are some companies more reliable than others
Essentially this. I've found Anbernic is fairly reliably even if I got a lemon RG35XX-SP that had its posts disintegrate when I went to just turn some screws. The thing still functioned but it was basically impossible to keep flush or closed. My other RG35XX-SP, RG34XX, and RG35XX-H have all been solid for about a year now for the H and about three or four months for the other two. FunnyPlaying is also reliable, their issue is more on slow software support for their FPGBC than the actual quality of their products.

>>11941056
I don't really thing Anbernic is sturdy or long living at all and the ones I own are like this:

RG280V - constantly went into a restart loop and soon didn't turn on at all. Garbage.

RG351MP - solid aluminum case, but the paint came of really quick. Screen is also not protected in the least, and get funky if you push at it with the littlest of force

RG35xx - face buttons become scratchy and sticky fast, shoulder buttons wear down. Mine can't be overclocked in garlic OS and fucks up after a few minutes, but that's overclocking, so I can't really complain.

RG35xxsp - famous wear down problem with the buttons. No problem with the hinge though.

Overall only the MP and RG35xx are acceptable.

>>11941518
>RG280V - constantly went into a restart loop and soon didn't turn on at all. Garbage.
Corrupted SD or corrupted installation. Git gud.

>>11941520
Did that. Didn't help.

What is the "best" chinkheld right now, besides deck / switch? The smaller the better, but I want to be able to play at least ps2 / gc games. I also don't want it dying in like a year.

>>11941542

Boot loop after power on
Actually, in this situation, the system is completely up and running. The problem is usually related to SimpleMenu when it is the default launcher if it have trouble restoring the last state. This can happen if the files that SimpleMenu addresses through its configuration files have been manually modified. It can also happen if these files itself have been modified (those found in /media/data/local/home/.simplemenu/section_groups). The solution is usually to delete the status file so that it can be regenerated. This file is last_state.sav and it is located inside the home directory of SimpleMenu, i.e. /media/data/local/home/.simplemenu.

Since version 1.3.1 of the image, there is a way to solve the problem from the console. The steps to find the solution are as follows:

Hold Power during 2 seconds to poweroff system.
Power on while pressing B during complete boot.
Open Commander.
Delete last_state.sav in .simplemenu directory.
Close Commander.
Open SimpleMenu.
Restore lost settings.
We are done.

>>11941520
Some of their mips handhelds have failure rates where flashing the sdcard with good firmware won't help. I learned this the hard way with my rgplus and only chink forums talked about it.

>>11941543
Best for money to performance ratio is Retroid Pocket 5/Retroid Pocket Mini V2, it emulates up to Wii perfectly and they're around the size of a PS Vita. Anything after that, Odin 2 Portal, but it's pretty close to the Steam Deck in size. Pic related for size comparisons, Odin on the right.

>>11941567
I forgot to mention there's also the Odin 2 Mini. It's the same specs as the Odin with the size of the Vita, but it doesn't have an OLED screen like the Odin 2 Portal and the Retroid Pockets have despite costing the same as the Portal.

MuOS firmware update by the end of the month, by the looks of things.
Has RG34XXSP support.

>>11941596
Goose is going to be amazing.
By the way did you know you can stop using the inbuilt hard-to-use music player (GMU Music Player), and install Rocknix instead? It has some amazing skins and it is way easier to navigate once you figure how to add your folders (look for the guide lol, I had to ask at the discord)

>>11940807
Those two have the highest chances of lottery winners and are safe purchases. Wait for a ‘eck 2 for more enjoyable PS2-era emulation. We’re waiting on what the dual-screen does for DS/3DS.

Thought on RP Mini?

>>11941621
I'm not really using these things to play music, but are you saying I can somehow install Rocknix into MuOS?
My ass thought you were talking about Rockbox for some reason lol.

>>11942270
My bad, lol, yeah I meant ROCKBOX music player

https://community.muos.dev/t/rockbox-music-player/622

>>11942071
v1 shat the bed, v2 is ok

>>11942278
nice, looks like that'd suit an RG28XX perfectly

>>11942278
Sweet, I'll 100% keep that in mind for the next MuOS upgrade I do.
The default GMU Music Player is kinda ass and doesn't recognise a bunch of the AAC, OGG, or OPUS audio I have.

RELEASE THE FUCKING MANGMIS ALREADY YOU FUCKS

>>11941518
>face buttons become scratchy and sticky fast, shoulder buttons wear down
Membranes or the actual plastic buttons or both?

I've seen people wear the plastic on the faces of their buttons down and I have no fucking idea how that happens or how they manage to do that. Is the plastic really that shitty?

>>11941596
Really? Hasn't the thing been out for like 3 months already?

>>11942987
Mine haven't broken down and I never heard of that, but they don't look like stellar plastic. Wonder if the guy used rubbing alcohol.

>>11943101
The plastic thing is hard to believe but I did see a youtube video where a guy actually did wear down the face buttons on his chinkheld, it looked like someone ground it down with a key or something. He said he played some game that was very repetitive over and over again, like this is all he played and it required repetitive inputs and lots of pressure.

So then it would be the second time I've heard of this and it's still bizarre and hard to believe because this is just fucking plastic how do they fuck that up on a consumer electronic. Anyways I would be more concerned about the longevity of membranes and them not not tearing or going unacceptably mushy over time.

>>11943126
Was it the Apotris guy who grinded his d-pad? I recall that.

>>11943136
That sounds familiar, I think so. It's like how the fuck do you even do that. I've seen people pretty easily shave material off the top of Switch 2 face buttons with a box cutter, it seemed pretty soft and I doubt those will have issues like that.

>>11930062 (OP)
No Onion OS
No buy

>>11942278
It does look amazing with themes.
Some themes show big Album art, others look amazing without album art.

Just make sure to use the themes in this link:
https://themes.rockbox.org/index.php?target=ipod6g

(Only "ipod6g" themes are compatible due to screen size I reckon, the link has already those selected)

Image related, that is my Winamp skin even to this day (I use Linux but Audacity has Winamp skin compatibility, and I renamed it and changed its icon to Winamp, lol)

retroid pocket 6 when?

>>11943524
I was also impressed by OnionOS, I call it perfect due to Art Scrapping over WiFi and other things...

but then I found a cheap RG35XX 2024
MuOS is also PERFECT in its slightly different way, for example it has grids, which allows for console icons, but also you can make a Media folder (I use CRT icon) inside of which each series can have its own icon (CowboyBebop, Pingu, etc...)

Also MuOS will have an update by the end of this month, most likely. The update will include WiFi Art Scrapper and a few more things to even make it better.

I wholeheartedly reccomend MuOS A LOT.

Both OS are VERY mature and made for gamers by GAMER Retro Hand Held players.

What would be the best way to transfer stuff to my held, without having to remove the SD card?

>>11944227
Usb-C to Usb-A 3.0

Or USB-C to USB-C if you are sure your handheld has the driver to control the voltage.

The RG280V, for example, has a usb-c plug, but it does not have the driver to ask for the correct low voltage, and it can burn its battery with the voltage of a proper full usb-c charge.

The Miyoo Mini + and RG35XX +, in my experience, do have the driver and can be connected USB-C to USB-C to the computer.

Just enable the USB mode MTP or something alike to activate the device as a drive.

>>11944239
This is how I stopped corrupting my microSD cards by Linux trying to mount them as a OS and changing booting files or something on the headers.

Now I NEVER corrupt my microSD cards no matter how much I add or remove to them using the Hand Held as USB drice.

In Miyoo Mini + you can transfer over HTTP, by connecting to it as a website, but it only works with transfers in small batches like 10 files at a time, because with hundreds of files it will hang and you will have to restart and will never know which files are corrupted or incompletely transferred. I use HTTP transfer in Miyoo Mini + but only after I flash the ROM card with my base collection using a microSD adapter, then I use HTTPS only to update or add new hacks ONE BY ONE.

To add 100GB of ROMs I DO NOT RECOMMEND HTTP transfer, maybe another WIFI transfer user an FTP Manager, but I never tried those.

>>11944239
Unfortunately, some handhelds either have some OS issues (connection drop), or the USB-C port itself is dodgy and drops connection.

>>11944227
flash drive

Is there a chinkheld with sticks/slidepads perfectly flush with the device? Zero 28 seems to be the closest but I was wondering if there is something with a bigger screen

mogs trimui brick

>>11944902
fukken cute, if only it were more Blue Purple instead of Pink Purple.

>>11944902
Not with those shit ski slope shoulder buttons. The Brick is the only vertical who is the true successor to the RG300's godly shoulder buttons.

>>11944902
That thing doesn't even mog the Miyoo Mini Plus and that handheld is fucking trash.

>>11944902
>android
shan't

>>11944940
whats wrong with android?

>>11944227
I use FileZilla, but I’m transferring from a NAS.

Anbernic RG477M might be the one

i'm still mad that i fell for the miyoo mini. its square shape is so uncomfortable.
what's the best horizontal slop these days?

>>11944902
>only chinkheld touchscreen with a 1024x768 resolution
>4x DS scaling
I really hope we are getting close to a knockoff DS that isn't overpriced ayaneo bullshit. Why their previous attempt used a 480x800 (effectively 480x360) screen is beyond me

>>11945138
Retroid’s add-on might be them testing the market for that sort of thing

>>11945106
Ayaneo pocket dmg

>>11945148
They'd better figure out the hinge fuckup, I was this close to getting a flip 2

>>11945152
the pocket dmg is vertical, not horizontal

>>11945159
Pretty sure a few anons are guinea pigging it, so we’ll see

>>11942987
I can vouch for the buttons on the RG35XXSP turning to shit surprisingly quickly. It's a launch unit.

Played a shitton of Super Metroid and Aria of Sorrow on it, primarily using just the Y, B, and A buttons. You can see they're really sunken in compared to the X button.
I can still play Super Metroid on this thing but it requires too much physical force to be reliable and comfortable.

I wanna open it up sometime to replace and/or fix the buttons and membranes but haven't gotten around to it.
It's apparently less of an issue with the newer units that revised the buttons to be less clicky, but that was only for new colors that I didn't want. I love the transparent blue shell and wanted to keep that.

Russ got it

>even Retroid Pocket 5s are cracking now
>Shills are coping saying everything cracks including the steam deck

What the fuck is going on over at Retroid??

>>11945493
this is so satisfying after seeing all the rp5 fags gloating about the flip 2

>>11945493
this nigga just dropped it or crushed it. This is not a part that experiences stress.

>>11944908
How's the d-pad on those things? I have a wired sn-30 pro and it's so stiff it's unusable, I previously had a wireless one in grey and it was good, soft and responsive.

>>11945545
Cope

should i get a retroid pocket 2S?

>>11945595
Anon, I...

>>11945493
>>11945574
How the fuck does this even happen unless you drop the damn thing?

>>11945574
They dropped them bro. The crack originates from the screw. They dropped it and the strain spread from the screw and it cracked.
>>11945683
There is a possibility that the plastic is garbage and the case is not reinforced enough around the screws. But most of the time these kind of cracks happen when you physically damage them from dropping them or twisting or otherwise crush it.

>>11945683
It's shitty, brittle D-grade plastic and the stress of opening that little card slot over and over resolves to that particular area for whatever reason, which probably isn't helped by the general movement and flexing of the unit in general. This is what happens when you buy chinese garbage.

>>11945574
>>11945493
trimui has better build quality, completely unironically

>>11945734
can those fucks at triumui just put the mangmi chip in the smart pro already so we can actually play psp games on it

>>11945734
Didn't someone in the thread earlier just say their Brick stopped working?

If you don't want shitty plastic buy something better.

>>11945772
They said it's better. Not good.

>>11945683
Inferior chinknesium engineering.

>>11945780
>same shitty plastic, just double the price for some reason

>>11939610
>This is of course after I added a stupid engraving that looks tacky as hell and fucked it up
your own fault.

>>11945715
NTA but even if that were true that just means these things have shit build quality. I dropped my GBA, GBA SP, and DS phat a ton of times and they never cracked. The only had scratches.

Also no one believes you because if they were dropped the glass screen would crack first and not some plastic at the back.

>>11945772
he disassembled it to install a different backplate with an engraving, he most probably fucked it up.

All metal brick or plastic brick?

>>11944208
Custom firmware hall of fame
>onionos
>muos
>minui (plus derivatives)
I'd add crossmixos but it just looks so jank even though functionally I love it

>>11945715
Are the dropped RP5s in the room with us now?

Is the RG Cube worth upgrading from the Cube XX? I pretty much exclusively emulate on the XX nowadays. Does it run PS2 and GameCube fine, or should I just get a RP Mini/477M?

>>11945734
I hate re*oid as much as the next guy but trimui is sub powkiddy tier.

>>11945849
>>11945852
>Implying disassembling something as simple as a linux chinkheld can break it
Troonui bros, you're making miyoo look good again.

>>11945863

>>11945878
I haven't had any issues with PS2 and GC on mine, but I do run at 1x res and there's still some slowdown on some games, like Atelier Iris for some reason. Might be worth RP Mini v2 if you're after a seamless experience.
Also Knulli Gladiator has a release for the V90S so I'm going in lads

>>11945843
Doesn't ayaneo use higher grade ABS?

>>11945910
that's what they claim, no one would post crack pics out of buyers remorse for spending so much on china plastic

it's already Q3 of the year, where's the new retroids?

>>11945967
Ships the 15th.

I've installed GMenuNX on my Trimui Model S. I've noticed that the dev has a "clock adjuster app" available. What exactly does it do? As far as I could tell, it creates a txt file with the value you enter, it doesn't actually add a clock. Is there a particular way you're supposed to use it, that I'm missing?

>>11945493
It’s not a flaw it’s a FEATURE, they’ll totally fix this in the RP6 ;)
I’m curious to see how long until cracks end up forming in the RG557, or if we’ll somehow live to see a day where Anbernic has better QC than Retroid.

>>11945878
I've been told it feels less sturdy. Wouldn't get a T820 for that.

>>11945880
>I hate re*oid as much as the next guy but trimui is sub powkiddy tier.
As a RGB30 owner, I very much doubt it.

>>11945967
Never mind that, where's the Arc 2?

What’s with the retroid hate? Reeks of reddit

>>11946867
>Retroidditor sick of the retroon dicksicking that comes with his ick
>Confused when the one english website that shits on retroon doesn't suck their dicks

>>11946462
>Arc 2
How will they fuck it up?

Are chinks the only one who make reasonably sized handhelds nowadays?

>>11946885
learn english saar

>>11945159
lol even the non-flip RP5s are cracking now