Yes it’s hooked up to my Roland keyboard collecting dust

virtualmidisynth & sc55 soundfont is good enough these days

>>11930741 Pick up that GBA cartridge.

Nuked-SC55 is good enough for now

>>11930750
>t.

>>11930735 (OP)
Yes. An SC-55 MKII.

>>11930750
Should they? It's Advance Guardian Heroes after all.

>>11930785
I have a number of them. Also some other equipment that does GM and GS, I maky my own electronic music and most synths have a GM or GS mode or something compatible, though they might not always have the Roland sounds obviously.

I really like the sound of my Alesis QS 6.1 when playing GM material. It has its own higher quality multisamples instead of a Sound Canvas sound to it, effects are better too.

I also have a real MT-32 (old version which is the better one). As well as its rack mount brother synth the D-110, which can be put into an MT-32 mode with some SYSEX I have saved.

>>11930735 (OP)
yes, right here.

>>11930747
>soundfont
Nigga, we have Nuked SC-55 now

Nah, I'm good with my MT-32

i prefer eapci8m.
i modified it a little to iron out some things and make it sound a little closer to my sbpci128.
still don't know how to make the electric guitars on doom e1m1 sound right tho. may be a limitation of sf2 or a specific hardware quirk that is impossible to replicate using soundfonts alone.

Yes, I have an SC-88 pro. I don't really play the sort of games that benefit from it though. I mostly play PC games from the CD era. And the games that do support midi, like say, Hexen, sound literally identical to the CD soundtrack.
I listen to the Viper series OST midis on it sometimes though. They sound sick in SC-55 compatability mode.

>>11930741
cute powerbook
>>11930735 (OP)
I have an SC-8820 and a Yamaha I'm blanking on the model number of. Both are fun, covers GS and XG compatibility.

>>11931021
Oh, I'm out of the loop. Will check out Nuke, thanks anon

>>11931167
I've been using this fork because it adds volume adjustment and I thought the volume was a bit too quiet with the original:
https://github.com/linoshkmalayil/Nuked-SC55-GUI-Float

In any case it's the most accurate SC-55 sound you can get outside of actual real SC-55 hardware

>>11930735 (OP)
>playing retro is about consumption
That's sad anon

>>11931178
>In any case it's the most accurate SC-55 sound you can get outside of actual real SC-55 hardware
Isn't >>11931051 better?

>>11931182
Probably impossible to distinguish. Nuked stuff is based on decapped chips and is extremely accurate

Nuked MU1000EX when? :(

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f4geHBkA1vE&list=LL

>>11931226
Someday...

>>11931226
>>11931256
There's also the MU2000, but no sound hooked up for either.

88ST Pro here
I used it with a few Japanese Windows games and more recently Warcraft

>>11931283
What's in that GBASP?

>>11931332
Was probably Dragon Quest 3

>>11931283
What makes it PRO? Balanced outputs?

>>11930735 (OP)
Anon told me they were a meme I just grabbed anything with a sound chip

>>11931283
>loli table

>>11932284
They aren't even a meme. Just a handful of faggots trying hard to force one.

>>11931021

nta but cool, is this the sc55 equivalent of MUNT for the Mt32?

>>11931178
I've been using a fork that enables two instances instead of one. I'm not gonna pretend that I know what I'm doing but some anons said that certain midi files have more channels that usual and you're missing out instruments if you played them with only one instance.

>>11932325
Dunno I like it, I normally connect radios and minicomponents and randomly between 1985 and 2005 they have midi parts is always baffling like any why are you here port

>>11932280
It has what Roland calls "insertion effects"

>>11932710
That's somewhat standard terminology in the audio world; inserts / sends / channel fx / etc

>>11930750
>>11930760
kek

>>11931051
has there any been any proper head to head testing between munt/emulators and roland hardware?
all the soundfonts ive used with toohoo games sound wrong

what is better? roland sound canvas va or nuked-sc55? i already have va set up

>>11932393
bots. lol.

>>11932338
Never used MUNT but from a quick googling it seems similar

>>11933820
It's JANK lol.

>>11933883
He's workin' on it!

https://x.com/nukeykt/status/1877858748233924688

>>11931021
>>11930752
How do you use this with something like GZDoom?

>>11933913
The hero we need, but don't deserve.

>>11933919
You need to use it with loopMIDI, and select loopMIDI in your Doom sourceport

>>11933930
Accurate AWE32 emulation for DOSBox is also only a matter of time

https://github.com/dosbox-staging/dosbox-staging/issues/1682

>>11933930
Accurate AWE32 emulation for DOSBox is also only a matter of time

https://github.com/dosbox-staging/dosbox-staging/issues/1682

>>11932846
Yes they're on Youtube and MUNT still kinda sucks to this day.

>>11930735 (OP)
How about loading a soundfont that is very similar to a Sound Canvas into a wavetable daughterboard?

>>11933938
Thanks but I guess this won't work with linux then

>>11937007
There's probably some software that does the same thing as loopMIDI on Linux

>>11937012
So Nuked-SC55 is not a soundfont? What is it?

>>11937036
It's a low-level SC-55 emulator made by analyzing decapped chips. It literally emulates how a real SC-55 works

>>11937061
I already though soundfonts were confusing, it's going to be a challenge to figure out how to use this on linux.

>>11930735 (OP)
what's the use case?

>>11937093
Making Doom music sound good.

>>11930752
>license forbids commercial use so you can't make music with it even if you have the physical machine

… I don’t know what this is. Explain it to me like I’m 5 because the internet search isn’t really giving me info

>>11937305
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CVq4rSEjgnA

>>11937072
It runs fine for me on wine. You're probably better off just using FLAC or 320kbps mp3 recordings of the tracks on an SC-55 than trying to pipe midi into a windows program running in wine, and then back out to GZDoom. I am almost certain GZDoom supports high quality mp3. Unless you're playing some obscure custom map or something that you can't get an sc-55 recording of.

>>11937337
You run linux gzdoom and pipe the music to loopMIDI running through wine? Interesting, seems like it would be a crapshoot whether it would work or not. It actually shows up in the settings in gzdoom?

>>11937353
No. I was just confirming that the emulator itself works on wine. That's a good idea though.

>>11937369
it does
ive done it with touhou 6

>>11930735 (OP)
I don't have a Sound Canvas™®© for the same reason I don't own a hardware audio synth. Every feature can be perfectly replicated in software, to the point that modern models are just bog standard ARM SOCs with dials and sliders.

>>11930786
kek'd
dirt or software
you decide

>>11930752
This thing is broken. Heretic idle demo second level music, main instrument randomly disappears screwed during refrain. Tried patching https://github.com/shingo45endo/sc55mk2-ctf-patcher , various resets by pressing buttons as per manual, nothing helped.
And btw, overall sound quality is clearly worse than this http://sc55.duke4.net/index.php pre-recorded music from the same hardware.
So how is this shit accurate? Even default Windows MIDI at least playing correctly not screwing instruments.

>>11937002
I think the issue is, will the GM program drive the patch changes and effects properly? Probably not, though maybe. Depends on the MIDI spec of the sound card really.

>>11937305
>plug midi cable from your computer into box
>play midi file from your computer sending midi events into box
>box plays the midi with its built in instrument samples and synthesizer engine
>this was how professional computer music worked in the 90s
>now they want you to buy virtual instruments that run directly on your computer but come with drm malware
>some of these virtual instruments try to roughly simulate the 90s boxes but don't sound identical even though the companies are fully capable of making actual emulation of the synthesizers they themselves designed

Yes but I mostly use the plugin version now and solely use it to make music

>>11937002
>soundfont that is very similar to a Sound Canvas
How about not trash tralking? Where is this magical soundfont? I've tested
Sound Canvas VA vst - shit
various .sf2 from google - shit
The most close to proper sound is windows builtin Microsoft GS Wavetable Synth.
So it appears better just play and thats it, no need for hipster garbage MIDI emulators, plugins, players, etc., they all worse anyway.

>>11938150
I think it is more for the General Midi music. I was inspired by Chill V for an alternative separate midi module: https://youtu.be/Ys-4ht904gI

>>11938336
There are many out there, and I lack the audiophile ears to really tell what might be closest. As I had ears that preferred the harsher OPL2 Yamaha sounds over OPL3 back then, and with age maybe my hearing isn't as good, so with all the soundfonts, there are differences with the real SC-55, but still fits the sound I thought games had. Is there one you prefer? https://youtu.be/OfztYSgRTmg

>>11939987
>There are many out there
Not pointing to even one means zero, there are none.
> I lack the audiophile ears to really tell what might be closest
DOOM music is primitive, try Heretic, everything sounds like shit compared to original http://sc55.duke4.net/index.php#
Even if one track sounds decent the another will be messed up. It's all useless shit, audiophile unrelated.

>>11937728
Run it in multi instance mode which will double the polyphony, a hardware unit is limited to 28 voices, you can double it with -n 2

Also try running it with the "--disable-oversampling" command line
By default nuked-sc55 runs at double the sample rate of a hardware unit 64 khz, a real unit runs at 32 khz
the oversampling changes the sound signature so it won't sound exactly like the real hardware
--disable-oversampling command will disable this causing it to run at 32 khz making it more in line with a real hardware unit


This is what I run it with:
nuked-sc55.exe --mk2 -n 2 -r gs --disable-oversampling

>>11940028
>This is what I run it with:
>nuked-sc55.exe --mk2 -n 2 -r gs --disable-oversampling
Thanks a lot. This fixed garbled instrument, at last the decently sounding real solution. Hooray.

The funny thing, i tried both options myself (--disable-oversampling and -n 2), but i was tired late at night and thought i had run two emulators by mistake and closed them so i coudn't see the effect lol. Thank you again. It would be nice if possible to run two threads with only one window, because two windows at once is confusing and awkward to use, but whatever, at least it works.

>>11940028
Where did you find these launch parameters? I can't find them in the readme

>>11940147
--help

>>11940154
Weird, it doesn't tell me about -n 2 or --disable-oversampling

>>11940154
>>11940167
Nevermind, I did some googling and realized that's only with the GUI-Float fork

>>11940000
>Not pointing to even one means zero, there are none.
What kind of cope is this?

Related to nuked sc-55, is there a foobar2000 plugin that let you select the loopmidi device as output? The ones that I tried already come with midi emulation but don't have an external option.

>>11930735 (OP)
I haven’t entered my dos build era. Looking forward to making a build with this during my midlife crisis and playing Duke 3D

Roland JV-1010 gang. By far my favorite sounding synth for retro gaming.

>>11941192
What's the screwed-on plate on the top for?

>>11941192

You can install an add-in card for additional voices/capabilities.

No, but I have this.

>>11940179
Not really, GUI-Float is based on this fork https://github.com/jcmoyer/Nuked-SC55 which is superior having --gain option to set volume and actually working --no-lcd option for headless operation not spamming windows and saving some CPU time. GUI is nice introduction but ultimately useless for games since you don't need to operate the thing.

Also I've found interesting thing, for some games (namely Blasphemer) MIDI sounds very bad, OPL/Soundblaster is way better and GravisUltraSound(GUS) is nice too but depend on patches pack, there are two mainly: dgguspat.zip lite one and eawpats.zip more elaborate samples but drums are too much pronounced spoiling it.

>>11930786
>they
Go back.

>>11940028
Is it possible for the program to save the volume settings? It always goes back to default every time I restart it.

Yes, SC-55, I really like it.