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>Try to keep things /vr/ related: Focus should be on 6th Gen Consoles and older. Slight off topic is fine so long as it's related to CRTs, such as later 16:9 models, HD models, etc. Systems with backwards compatibility are also safe territory, as are re-releases on newer hardware. PC CRTs are also welcome and appreciated.
>Produce OC! Bust out your camera and take photos of your CRTs displaying all sorts of games, featuring all sorts of tubes, using all sorts of signals. Getting good shots can be hard, but if you take enough, at least a few will turn out alright.
>Try and give as much information as possible when asking for info on a specific set, or troubleshooting an issue to expedite and help you may receive. As always, Google is your friend and we are your friends with benefits. Do people read this? Older archived threads aren't a bad place to look either; Seriously, there's literally 6 years of backlog at this point.
>Share appreciation for others choice of technology and personal philosophy of gaming. Always remember to show courtesy in your discussion and moderate yourselves first.

Limited discussion of video processing and scaling devices is alright, but remember to keep the focus on CRTs and CRT accessories.

CRT Pastebin (Never Ever) : http://pastebin.com/1Ri5TS3x
Guide to CRT Hunting : http://pastebin.com/H9H9L2LQ
Guide to Video Monitors : http://pastebin.com/pQX4N6gZ
General Purpose CRT Adjustment Guide : http://www.arcaderepairtips.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/guide_setup_adjust_arcade_monitors_v1.2.0.pdf
S-Video Pasta : http://pastebin.com/rH2h6C7W
BKM-10R Protocol Info : http://pastebin.com/aTUWf33J
JVC RGB card cloning guide : https://pastebin.com/EXqMBfcY

>>11935062 (OP)
>550
Is the 2nd hand market in the US as bad as it is in Europe?

>>11935070
It's not hard to find CRTs in the US. They're on the side of the road on bulk pick up nights, in thrift stores, retro game stores sell them for reasonable prices and facebook market is full of them. Just because someone is asking for $500 doesn't mean anyone is paying it for a 250lb burden with melted plastic.

wormed it up real good. still don't work. aw shucks.

>>11935081
Does it not rain in these parts of America? Do extreme fluctuations in temperature not damage the internals?

>>11935098
If you have reason to suspect a CRT has been rained on or is in some way filthy, clean it. Let it dry. I picked one up a day after it rained on, removed the boards, soldered on a new power cable and it worked perfectly. Even the built in VCR.

>>11935105
Sounds nice assuming you have the work space and knowledge to do all that, starter homes where I am are small.

>>11935113
I did it on my floor in my room. It's OK to get creative.

- CRTs are no longer produced because they have inferior picture quality versus LCDs
- CRTs emit dangerous levels of X-rays or other forms of radiation
- CRTs always have easily-visible flicker
- CRTs always cause eyestrain
- CRTs always make a high-pitched squealing noise
- CRTs contain lethal amounts of electricity, even when unplugged
- CRTs need calibration more than two to three times a year
- Overall CRT black levels are not superior to LCDs because ambient light ruins CRT black levels
- Analog CRTs have more processing time than digital LCDs due to poor RAMDAC performance
- Afterimages caused by phosphor decay are extremely annoying and are a significant downside of CRTs
- Sending an improper mode (resolution or refresh rate) to a CRT can cause permanent damage
- CRTs cannot have touchscreens
- 4:3 is so bad that nobody should use a non-widescreen CRT
- The Sony GDM-FW900 is the only CRT worth owning
- Curved CRTs have objectively inferior picture quality versus flat CRTs with otherwise equal specifications
- CRTs should not be used because they are heavier and deeper than LCDs
- CRTs have severe reflections because they do not have matte coats
- CRTs can be permanently damaged by nearby magnets
- Analog signals limit a CRT's resolutions and refresh rates and negatively effect picture quality
- Heavy metals are used in CRT glass to reduce radiation

CANCER RAY TUBES should be ILLEGAL

>>11935126
Your posts should be illegal. This level of bait is painfully weak and just makes me feel embarrassed for you.

>>11935126
reddit sourced

>>11935062 (OP)
we need out own version of this

>>11935126
"Hi ChatGPT, please list reasons for why CRT are bad, so I can try to bait a few frogs on 4chan"

>>11935159
it's actually written by a real life virgin

https://www.reddit.com/r/GloriousCRTMasterRace/wiki/misconceptions/

What lightgun games does everyone play on their CRTs? Lightguns are so good one CRTs. I've tried so many IR options on flat screens and they all fucking SUCK.

>>11935556
uhhh duck hunt

>>11935159
>>11935170
>>11935132
He’s right at any rate.
You have good modern display tech. This stuff died for good reasons.

>>11935114
That sounds fine if you live alone.

>>11935126
>>11937209
We know you're the same guy hating on CRTs on every thread where CRTs are brought up.

Stop samefagging and stop using ChatGPT, it's very cringy.

>>11937209
>He's
Samefag

>>11935556
Time Crisis 2, but I guess anything you can play on PS2 is good. Guncon 2 is the pinnacle of light gun technology, incredibly accurate and good ergonomics. Dreamcast light gun is cool but can't compare at all

I've got this one for free yesterday. A 25" trinitron with scart rgb.
I might try playing SH2-3 on composhit though, maybe it'll look better (I don't have an RGB cable on me right now).
Geometry on it is a bit warped, since it's a flatscreen, and the remote seemingly died, so idk if I'll be able to access the service menu, but unlike that 32" thomson I might not even need it here.

>>11937408
Also it was very dirty, but I cleaned it a bit already.

>>11937408
>>11937409
Also kekd at the captcha.

>>11935126

>>11937227
I don't, have 3 kids and two dogs around.

>>11937801
Then you're a more chaotic person than me.

>>11938018
Probably. It's fun.

>>11937238
>>11937281
No, more than one person dislikes them. Probably several. Actually most of the world. Even most of the world that likes retro games.
I am not the chat gpt style post maker.
I mean look at this shit.>>11937408
Free is too expensive.

>>11937408
Did you just eye the warping or did you use a test suite?

>>11938037
Still obvious samefag. Only a samefag would try to defend some "other" guy samefagging

>>11931936
BARGAIN UPDATE
attention /r/crtgaming, price has been dropped by owner, practically giving it away now
somebody hurry up and nab this badboy holy grail

>>11935081
>It's not hard to find CRTs in the US. They're on the side of the road on bulk pick up nights, in thrift stores, retro game stores sell them for reasonable prices

LOL no. It's not 2009 anymore. Thrift stores basically never have them because they're on lockdown as soon as they get them in, then they put them on Ebay.
>retro game stores
Nope. Not anymore. All done eaten up by collectors.

Glad I got mine on the side of a road one fine spring back in....2011? Got lucky looking back on it, as I missed out on much of the rush to get rid of those things when LED HD came into its own.

>and facebook market is full of psychos that say they have a CRT for sale but never answer messages

fify

I like this one. Peak retro styling.

>>11939645
>trying to buy crts from thrift stores
You steal them from the drop off area after hours, ya dingus.

>>11939681
>stealing is so cool!
Yeah I was 12 and stupid once too, now leave.

>>11939662
i got a white mono version of this, def my fave set

>>11935062 (OP)
>there's a few people giving away their crts a few towns away from me
>dont have a car so i cant carry them
should i just hire one of the africans that hang out in front of the local home depot at this point?

>>11939810
Home Depot rents pickup trucks for like $20

>>11939826
that's the thing, i dont have a license either. the africans do.

>>11939810
The African will rob the CRT.

>>11939081
You can see the warping yourself on the 2nd pic in SH3.

>>11939810
if i didn't have a car, i'd ask a friend with a car to help me with that quest

are you urban car-free, or suburban/rural carless?

>>11935556
Pretty much everything from 5th and 6th gen
I have a soft spot for point blank and time crisis

>>11939691
It's for a deed of valor. They dont sell them in store, they give them to electronic recyclers to get scrapped. You could be a CRT Robin Hood and swoop in at the cover of night and scoop them up, clean them and make sure they are functioning good, and redistribute them to the poor, retarded vr anons who cant find a set in their neck of the wood. Dont you want to have valor?

>>11939826
That is a misleading price. They tack on milage costs and you need to refill the gas tank when you are done. They also usually require a deposit down way over the claimed amount so that they can charge you for things like dings or cratches. You can rent a truck for under a 100, but its blatant BS that you will only be paying 20.

>>11939810
I dont have a car and ive used shopping carts to transport crts over a few mile distance.

>>11940392
>mileage cost
there isn't one
>fuel cost
you pay for gas whether it's your car or a rental
>small deposit
you get that back unless you damage it

you can look it up and see people really are paying $19+tax. Of course borrowing a friend's car makes more sense, but it's an option.

>>11940491
Well then home depot is unique then because every other truck/van rental service charges you per mile as well. I do know from trying to rent from them in the past that its first come, first serve and they wont let you reserve a vehicle days in advance, unless that also varies by region. Most locations only have 1 truck available too, maybe 2 at most.

I accidentally punched a hole in the side of my CRT (the plastic is super brittle,) any ideas on how to fix it?

>>11940568
Put it in a corner so you can't see the hole. Problem solved.

>>11940574
I was thinking of riveting a price of plastic over it.

>>11940614
I suggest doing the same for the other side symmetrically for style.

>>11940614
the plastic is super brittle so yes let's punch a rivet in there next. surely it won't shatter!

>>11940614
Get one of these things, pretty good for plastic repair

>>11940614
Definitely cover it up if you have any kids or cats around

>>11940568
Epoxy resin is basically the fiberglass bodyfiller of plastic. Goup a shitload where it broke, tape it back together, let it set up, sand it, spray paint it.

Probably a controversial topic to bring up in a thread like this, but for those who own a CRT and have delved into shaders, which shaders did you like the most?

>>11940568
Duct tape

>>11940385
I thought it over and I guess it's ok to take them from the drop off before Goodwill takes them in....maybe. It all depends where that drop off it. If it's on private property, that's a problem, but in spirit I'm with you.

>>11940568
Throw it away before it starts a fire, anon.

>>11939662
i'm jealous, these look so cool. i only ever see sets from 2000s where i live
>>11939808
fuck that's like my ideal set aesthetics-wise, though they can't be rgb-modded, no?

>>11940893
In my experience of liberating them from techno-genocide, they stay out for weeks at a time at the side of the drop off zone, awaiting the recycler reaper. If you feel the need to be honest, you can ask the dock worker dopes, and sometimes they wont know protocols and just let you take them, while others are strict on the policy of absolutely anything dropped off can not leave. Goodwill is the GameStop of thrift stores, so they are not exactly morally righteous to begin with.

>>11941147
I can take a look, but I'd bet good money (if I had it) that they've got their drop off zone on lockdown and will be surly as a sailor if I even flinch in its direction.
I'm definitely not going to get into an altercation over a CRT.

>>11941221
>they've got their drop off zone on lockdown
Ive personally never seen a goodwill donation area with cameras, and in the off hours, they bring everything movable they plan to sell/go through inside. Furniture and tvs sit outside. Furthermore, i highly, highly doubt they will raise a stink over it. The dock workers probably wont even notice and the police are extremely likely to not get involved over a trash tv taken from behind a store that was left purposely unattended outside overnight. I've personally taken 10 sets this past year from the same location.

>>11941474
I'll take a look, but I'm willing to bet good video games that they have tons of cameras or even someone near who will shoo me away in a nanosecond at my local Goodwill. I won't argue with either, frankly and that's something the cops would respond to within less than three minutes. You'd have to live here to understand.

-t. not getting my ass kicked AND CHARGED over a CRT

>>11941495
Welp, you gotta do what works for you then. Maybe shits different in another neck of the woods. But its been a bounty of big(and little) boys like this for the harvest. Picked up three Trinitrons on one trip. I do let them keep the flat screens and rear projector sets to do with as they please.

>>11941620
Nice booty, stranger. For me, I want several smaller ones, like 13" and maybe four 19" ones. Don't care what brand.
Not like I don't have a few of my own, but I gots my reasons.

And yeah rear projection TVs are pure crap. No good for anything except disappointment.
Bad for games, (do they even work with light guns?) horrible for films.

>>11941626
I got some lil ones from there also, like these two. In fact, this little sylvania vcr one was the first one i found on a pile of them when i discovered goodwill takes them again, and when i asked a dock worker, he said i could take them, so I grabbed that one on the way back to my car. When i came back an hour later for the rest, thats when a different doofus was there and denied me taking them under the rule of "once its dropped off, nothing can leave".

>>11941662
That is a sweet little Syl. I'm a sucker for the black ones.
Wait

BEAST gamer
gaming
extreme deal would go for double on ebay
beastly GREAT condition
ultimate gamer
video game consoles
bring a pallet jack
$600 please do you know how much weed i can buy with that

I should probably just move on, but I'm not loving how opportunists are rationalizing that any CRT they see not guarded like Fort Knox is up for grabs. that's how my 27" Trinitron and Sylvania got stolen last year.
fuck those twerps and their backs.

>>11943880
"Stolen" from where?

>>11943880
Are you leaving them outside for weeks at a time? How are people stealing them, assuming you have them the slightest bit hidden?

>>11940568
Stuff like this is a major problem on 2000s low end sets.

I am thinking of buying a cheap, below 19" crt. I already found a 14" Philips for 20 yurobucks.
I read the pastebin but I still don't get it, if I get a tv with a scart in, can I just use a component cable with a scart adaptor to get the highest video quality or what?

>>11945407
No that won't work. You need a TV with component input, or a transcoder device. But if you are in Europe, there's barely any reason to care about component. Every console that offers component in Europe has RGB scart available on aliexpress

>>11945490
>Every console that offers component in Europe has RGB scart available on aliexpress
Okay so you get a specific cable for that, here we used to get shitty composite cables with a scart adaptor in the console box.

i have an old Emerson taking up space in my closet, only retro consoles i have is a Wii (the model that plays gamecube games) and one of those old genesis plug and play pieces of junk that someone gifted me one year. i emulate alot on my pc and steam deck and was thinking of getting some cables to hook one of them up to it for a more authentic look, since i dont think ill be picking up any retro consoles anytime soon

>>11945527
if you want to play 8 and 16 bit stuff just use the wii. you can get hdmi-to-composite adapters but it will introduce lag

>>11945541
>you can get hdmi-to-composite adapters but it will introduce lag

Nta, but the lag can be overcome with engaging gaming mode, if the TV supports it.

>>11945549
that's a modern flat panel setting, and even so, it has nothing to with the lag inherent to video signal conversion

>>11937227
lol, i assume by this point those conditional statements are a troll.
>If it got wet
>If i had space to dry it
>if i lived alone
>if i had hands to lift it with

just making sure it works. will give a wipe down and pick up some batteries for my fucking wiimote.
>>11945541
yeah i saw that i had some games installed still, might hack it again since ive done it once and it was easy, i used to play gamecube roms off an sd card but think i lost that many moons ago. the cables only 8 dollars so i might still hook my deck up to it for hahas but yeah ill stick to old hardware for now

>>11945729

>>11945507
SCART has a shitload of pins. One of them is for composite video, which is why such composite adapters were possible - component is a completely different standard

>vga monitor i scooped for $10 is finally toast
how fucked am i???

Hey anons, pls help. It's the thomson guy, I tried fixing some geometry issues and found out that no matter what I do, the image is still a trapezoid with the left part of the screen being visibly stretched compared to the right one. Does it mean the tube is misaligned or anything? What can I do to fix it?

>>11946732
You're out at least $10

>>11935062 (OP)
If I dont have a remote for my tv do you think getting a remote for a similar model from the same brand can work?

>>11947269
That's what I did, also mine was a clone, and they typically list the supported models.
Might also depend on the chassis, if they're the same, I think you're good.

>>11947273
Cool. I guess ill give it a try then one of these days.

>>11947016
Also, when I shifted the screen horizontally I've noticed that the right and left edges are curved a bit like this: ) ).

>>11935556
House of the Dead 2, Virtua Cop 2, and of course Crossbow

>>11945561
>and even so, it has nothing to with the lag inherent to video signal conversion

It does because modern TVs automatically upscale the image thus introducing lag.