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Anonymous No.12030576 [Report] >>12030580 >>12030598 >>12030631 >>12030675 >>12030734 >>12030773 >>12030897 >>12030935 >>12031073 >>12031160 >>12031239 >>12032724 >>12032930 >>12033776 >>12033987 >>12034062 >>12034390 >>12034409 >>12034536 >>12035113 >>12037574 >>12039471 >>12039545
How do I play this without feeling like I’m playing it “just because”?
Anonymous No.12030580 [Report] >>12030583
>>12030576 (OP)
Be honest, you are just playing it because you're a dark souls zoomie
Anonymous No.12030583 [Report] >>12032809 >>12034440 >>12035428 >>12039545
>>12030580
How do I fix that?
Anonymous No.12030585 [Report]
the secondary hype has long since died down even that autistic king's field hater poster on /vr/ who was in every thread has stopped posting.
Anonymous No.12030598 [Report]
>>12030576 (OP)
Just play it. Wtf
Anonymous No.12030616 [Report] >>12030652 >>12030905 >>12031130 >>12035796 >>12036954 >>12037447 >>12038118 >>12039547
I'm not a souls zoomie, I played Demon's Souls and really enjoyed it. Then I tried King's Field to explore FromSoftware's earlier works, but it was terrible, so I dropped it. King's Field is the kind of game you had to experience in its time. The same thing, in my opinion, applies to Goldeneye. If you didn't play it back then, avoid it, it's just dated garbage. If you did, nostalgia might make it bearable.
Anonymous No.12030631 [Report]
>>12030576 (OP)
once i got a crush on an actress and wathched all of her movies
i liked her work and her looks and wanted more of it so i went back and watched her whole career
relax and do whatever you feel like
Anonymous No.12030652 [Report] >>12030686
>>12030616
>I'm not a soulszoomie
>I played it only because I played demon souls
Sure zoomie
Anonymous No.12030675 [Report] >>12035796
>>12030576 (OP)
This is a new level of vague shitposting.
Anonymous No.12030686 [Report] >>12030905 >>12031101
>>12030652
I was 26 when I played it on PS3 back in 2011, snagging it for just 10 bucks during a PlayStation Store sale. I might be older than you, son.
Anonymous No.12030734 [Report]
>>12030576 (OP)
That feeling will go away after you play it for a little while
Anonymous No.12030773 [Report]
>>12030576 (OP)
Learn to deny reality
Anonymous No.12030783 [Report]
False flagging bait thread
Anonymous No.12030787 [Report]
it's like a 10 hour game jesus christ you probably have 140,000 hours logged into wow
Anonymous No.12030897 [Report]
>>12030576 (OP)
stop being gay
Anonymous No.12030905 [Report] >>12030951
>>12030616
>>12030686
>millenial pulling "you had to be there" card while shitting on old games
Checks out. You're exactly the kind of brain-dead NPC that companies refer to when they say a remake is for "modern audiences."
Anonymous No.12030935 [Report]
>>12030576 (OP)
Play the game.
Just don't expect it to blow your mind if you aren't thrilled at the idea of playing a slow-paced first person action rpg.
Anonymous No.12030951 [Report] >>12031021
>>12030905
>Checks out. You're exactly the kind of brain-dead NPC that companies refer to when they say a remake is for "modern audiences."
You're way too upset just because I dropped King's Field, or is it because I've only played Demon's Souls and never touched (and never will touch) Dark Souls?
And am I the NPC Zoomer baby here? Careful with those projections, faggot. Don't believe me? Just try the damn game, retard.
Anonymous No.12031021 [Report] >>12031063
>>12030951
Yes you are a zoomer basically going
>Ugh well I like persona 4 but I'm never touching 5!
>Ugh well I like Fallout 3 but I'm never touching 4!
Anonymous No.12031063 [Report]
>>12031021
You keep projecting instead of playing King's Field.
>Those games quoted
Yup, a soulsfag zoomer. Just play the game already and share your thoughts as soon as you're done, zoom zoom. I have a feeling you might drop it too, but you won't admit it because of the whole "muh FromSoft hidden gem!" thing.
Don't @ me until you finish it.
Anonymous No.12031073 [Report]
>>12030576 (OP)
emulate
overclock the virtual CPU so it runs at 30 FPS without slowdown
it's reasonably fun and over in like 5 hours. it was just a primitive demo from 199-fucking-4, it's not a commitment
Anonymous No.12031085 [Report] >>12031149 >>12031162
evergrace is better, still no one plays it
Anonymous No.12031101 [Report]
>>12030686
Oh so you played King's Field II
Anonymous No.12031130 [Report] >>12031214 >>12035808
>>12030616
>King's Field is the kind of game you had to experience in its time
Skill issue. I've played it for the first time this year and stuck with it. It's easier to get into than the subsequent entries in the series in my opinion, because KF is very much a series of games about getting lost, and the first one compartmentalizes that aspect of it into separate floors, which makes it a lot easier to process. It's also a fairly small game, which makes it less of a commitment.
Not a single person in this thread has said a single thing about what KF is and how it plays, which leads me to believe none of you has actually played it, so let me tell you about the mechanic that made the game click with me, and subsequently get really into it: the map. First, you start the game with no map, completely lost. If you power through it, and keep playing for maybe half an hour, you will find a map, but it's an old map that's missing a lot of new rooms and secret passages, so you can still get lost fairly frequently. Then you come across the dedicated "getting hopelessly fucking lost" floor, 90% of which isn't mapped. Afterwards, you can find an optional magical map, which shows more of the dungeon but still has some uncharted parts. I can't stress how fucking amazing of an idea it is to purposefully unsettle the player by smartly withholding information and forcing them to acquire it themselves in order to progress. If the game didn't have a map at all, the absence of some parts of it wouldn't be felt so harshly. It's a simple but extremely effective concept that I haven't seen executed quite so well anywhere else.
Anonymous No.12031149 [Report]
>>12031085
I got filter'd by Evergrace despite beating all of From's dungeon crawlers. I don't know it just doesn't click with me
Anonymous No.12031160 [Report]
>>12030576 (OP)
Nearly everyone who plays this in 2025 is playing it for that reason. Don't worry about it.
It's ridiculously small for a PS1 game too, so assuming you're emulating, I wouldn't even worry about the disk space it takes up.
Anonymous No.12031161 [Report] >>12033765
Maybe the game isn't for you? King's Field always had an extremely niche fanbase for a reason. Its not "proto-dark souls". Its supposed to be insanely slow and borderline just an exploration game
Anonymous No.12031162 [Report] >>12031163 >>12031169
>>12031085
I sincerely doubt that, anon.
>t. played and completed evergrace
OST is god tier but the game itself would be considered in an "alpha state" by today's terminology
Anonymous No.12031163 [Report]
>>12031162
Have you beaten the Shadow Tower dungeon?
Anonymous No.12031169 [Report]
>>12031162
i dunno dude, it's a lot more fun than any king's shart once you get the palmira hammer
Anonymous No.12031214 [Report] >>12032817
>>12031130
>skill issue
I didn’t say it’s hard, but it hasn’t aged well.
Anonymous No.12031239 [Report]
>>12030576 (OP)
It's trash. Play Ocarina of Time instead.
Anonymous No.12032708 [Report]
I'm frooming
Anonymous No.12032724 [Report]
>>12030576 (OP)
anon, no one can help you with that except yourself. you either like it or you don't.
Anonymous No.12032809 [Report]
>>12030583
You don't. It's terminal.
Anonymous No.12032817 [Report]
>>12031214
YOU haven't aged well.
Anonymous No.12032930 [Report]
>>12030576 (OP)
Play other action RPGs on PS1 along with it.
Anonymous No.12033765 [Report] >>12033770 >>12033812
>>12031161
>insanely slow and borderline just an exploration game
So just like Dork Souls.
Anonymous No.12033770 [Report] >>12035182
>>12033765
>so just like BASED
Fixed that for you
Anonymous No.12033776 [Report]
>>12030576 (OP)
I figured I'd give it 5 minutes, but ended up playing it for 20 hours or so.

It's an intriguing game. At face value it's shit, but..
Anonymous No.12033781 [Report] >>12033785
People play it just because it's associated with Dark Souls.
Anonymous No.12033785 [Report] >>12033792 >>12033808
>>12033781
Crybabay
Go drink milk out of a baby bottle crybaby
Anonymous No.12033792 [Report] >>12033793
>>12033785
I was born before Vietnam existed
Anonymous No.12033793 [Report] >>12033808 >>12034398
>>12033792
Doesn't mean you aren't a crybaby milk drinker
Anonymous No.12033808 [Report] >>12033815
>>12033785
>>12033793
brown-coded posts
Anonymous No.12033812 [Report]
>>12033765
So you've never played it, got it
Anonymous No.12033815 [Report]
>>12033808
I can easily metabolize milk I just choose not to
Anonymous No.12033987 [Report]
>>12030576 (OP)
u accept its bad and stop playing it
Anonymous No.12034062 [Report] >>12034239
>>12030576 (OP)
you don't, games are not bucket list items, if you don't like it or enjoy it then drop it and go play something you do find enjoyable. Drop the FOMO mentality.
Anonymous No.12034239 [Report]
>>12034062
I wish I'd learned when I was a kid. Too late now, I already beat 1000+ video games
Anonymous No.12034390 [Report]
>>12030576 (OP)
If you are not feeling it then don't, otherwise you are doing it just because.
I played it because it was during a lull of From releases a few years back and did it out of curiosity and ended up loving the series.
You seem to have a need to prove something. That is a terrible reason to play a game.
Anonymous No.12034398 [Report]
>>12033793
milk is good for you
Anonymous No.12034409 [Report] >>12034428
>>12030576 (OP)
Take a good look around. This is a series you play for the graphics.
Anonymous No.12034428 [Report] >>12034619 >>12034808 >>12037112 >>12038010
>>12034409
>mind-boggling
Well KF does have that fever dream look

But seriously am I crazy believing that yes, KF could have amazed someone at the time? As their first 3D gsme?
Anonymous No.12034440 [Report]
>>12030583
Suicide.
Anonymous No.12034498 [Report]
Anonymous No.12034536 [Report]
>>12030576 (OP)
I play and enjoy my JP copy I bought for $5 unironically. Game has some bad slowdown but it’s a short game so who cares. Ground breaking game. Flawed, yeah, but also a straight to the point dungeon crawling adventure.
Not a big Dark Souls guy btw. I just like that the KF games feel like NES LoZ but in first person.
Anonymous No.12034619 [Report]
>>12034428
It’s just a funny image; it’s very impressive for a console game in 1994. Japs probably bought the PlayStation in droves just for King’s Field.
Anonymous No.12034808 [Report]
>>12034428
Yes, most 3d games then were partial 3d with sprites everywhere particularly enemies, characters and weapons, untextured polygons and other shortcuts.
Anonymous No.12035113 [Report]
>>12030576 (OP)
It helps if you have a good appreciation for the history of the thing. It's legitimately really cool to see companies building on the design framework of earlier dungeon crawlers and trying to figure out what a 3D action-oriented dungeon crawler should be. So many of the design decisions aren't in line with current "standard" design elements, but if you are able to appreciate the context that they were made in they often come across as creative and interesting solutions to new design problems.

This is a game all about exploration, taking it slow, and enjoying the atmosphere. The models are crude, but the abstraction involved is quite fitting with the crudeness of the rest of the game. It feels like you are fighting cave paintings and ancient statuary come to life. Enjoy the sense of isolation and revel in every new secret you uncover or piece of equipment you add to your arsenal. Over time the labyrinth becomes familiar and you unlock shortcuts, the dungeon slowly opening like a rare flower in bloom.
Anonymous No.12035160 [Report]
This thread is full of too many gymnastics when you could just be playing the game instead of writing about how you're thinking of playing the game.
Anonymous No.12035173 [Report]
that's not even a coherent question. just fucking play it, it's a good game.
Anonymous No.12035182 [Report]
>>12033770
What "it"? I played KF1. And everyone played DeeAss, so what's your point?
Anonymous No.12035225 [Report] >>12035252 >>12035253
It's not a good series. It's just a slog. The coolest one is Eternal Ring because you only use rings in that one. But even that one is a slog, but at least it has a cool gimmick. KF is just ass. You can just watch let's plays of the games if you're autistic about it but it's not even worth doing that
Anonymous No.12035252 [Report]
>>12035225
>You can just watch let's plays of the games
You must have not played the game. No one in their right mind would even suggest spectating fucking King's Field

I like the game, but watching someone play it would kill my soul
Anonymous No.12035253 [Report]
>>12035225
>You can just watch let's play
This mentality has killed gaming.
Anonymous No.12035353 [Report] >>12035358
I feel like that's almost every game I play now of days. Last game that really kept my attention with ease were the Mystery Dungeon games. Now it feels like I'm just marking off games from the backlog and not just replaying the surface level platforming/adventure games for the umpteenth time. Sucks when you haven't stumbled on a hidden gem for a while.
Anonymous No.12035358 [Report] >>12035363 >>12035378
>>12035353
Just play shit you like why is everyone so fucking mentally ill about games here
Anonymous No.12035363 [Report] >>12035365 >>12035367 >>12035370 >>12035379 >>12035594
>>12035358
Because some of use don't want to play the same games over and over again and are looking for something new, problem with games is that they are a bigger time sink than other media and there are some that genuinely do eventually click with you and git gud, but even more are just mediocre or subpar. So you stick with a game, it ends up being mediocre or bad, you move on to the next on the backlog, it ends up being the same, rinse, wash, repeat until you finally unearth that hidden gem and remember why you loved vidya again.
Anonymous No.12035365 [Report] >>12035367 >>12035371
>>12035363
Well, new but old. Past 2008 it becomes damn near impossible to find genuinely amazing.
Anonymous No.12035367 [Report]
>>12035363
>>12035365
You're a grown man you're not supposed to like video games
Anonymous No.12035370 [Report] >>12035371
>>12035363
>some of us don't want to play the same games over and over and are looking for something new
You're on the wrong board.
Anonymous No.12035371 [Report]
>>12035370
>>12035365
Anonymous No.12035378 [Report]
>>12035358
>Just play shit you like why is everyone so fucking mentally ill about games here
Kek this

Seriously how can you make a problem out of playing video games (no, don't answer that)
Anonymous No.12035379 [Report] >>12035602
>>12035363
Do other stuff with your time honestly, read some books.
Anonymous No.12035428 [Report] >>12035608
>>12030583
Play Shadow Tower first
Anonymous No.12035594 [Report]
>>12035363
>problem with games is that they are a bigger time sink than other media and there are some that genuinely do eventually click with you and git gud, but even more are just mediocre or subpar. So you stick with a game, it ends up being mediocre or bad, you move on to the next on the backlog, it ends up being the same, rinse, wash, repeat until you finally unearth that hidden gem and remember why you loved vidya again
Watch short reviews and/or watch a couple minutes of in-game footage of each title in your backlog before trying it. If what you see doesn't seem fun to play, skip it.

It's that simple.
Anonymous No.12035602 [Report]
>>12035379
Also this.

If you don't currently feel like playing video games don't force yourself to do it and try another recreative activity. E.g. Go take a hike, watch a movie, read something, maybe join a gym, etc.
Don't be foolish and put all your eggs in one basket (i.e. have more than one hobby so you don't get bored).
Anonymous No.12035608 [Report]
>>12035428
Shadow Tower is harder than any KF game so starting with it isn't really a good choice
Anonymous No.12035765 [Report] >>12036661 >>12036672 >>12036849
I'll be honest, I've only played Eternal Ring and I thought it was awful

Are King's Field and Shadow Tower meaningfully better?
Anonymous No.12035796 [Report]
>>12030616
>The same thing, in my opinion, applies to Goldeneye.
Shit opinion. Goldeneye is a classic through and through.
>>12030675
>This is a new level of vague shitposting.
Doesn't take much to impress the lowborn folk.
Anonymous No.12035808 [Report] >>12035823
>>12031130
Kinda sounds like Zelda.
Anonymous No.12035823 [Report]
>>12035808
It's literally the spiritual successor to Zelda 1.
Checking every wall for secrets, a network of obscure dark square shaped rooms, running circles around dangerous enemies to pop shots off, cryptic NPCs that you aren't sure what they want
Magic and sword magic take it to a whole new level. I love the sound effects of enemies and reaching new floors to hear the new music. I like how after a certain point in the story they change the music of the earlier stages to be more intense as you have access to more dangerous areas. Getting pushed into pits by ghosts immune to physical dmage is sovl. Looking around for invisible platforms while risking instakill is sovl .
Anonymous No.12035909 [Report]
*chef's kiss*
https://warosu.org/vr/thread/12030576
Anonymous No.12036661 [Report]
>>12035765
>Are King's Field and Shadow Tower meaningfully better?
Yes. A hundred times better.
Anonymous No.12036672 [Report]
>>12035765
Eternal Ring is a very fucking bad game even by early FROM jank standards. KF and ST are miles better
Anonymous No.12036849 [Report]
>>12035765
The Kings Field games are much better, solid all around if you can accept its about slow exploration and not combat
Shadow Tower 1 is mechanically and atmospherically interesting with a nice bestiary, but can drag a bit and the economy is way more brutal than it seems. Lots of secrets
Shadow Tower Abyss is very creative and quite short. Unique genre too. Reminds me of Oddworld or early 20th century pulp a bit
Evergrace has a nice aesthetic and very polarizing experimental OST, but just kinda sucks ass. It was originally meant to be a ps1 title. I wish we got that
Anonymous No.12036867 [Report]
Shadow Tower Abyss is the only one of these games I would genuinely recommend if you have no prior interest
It's great, only some things about it are outright horrible like the weight system (or rather, being unable to drop things)
Anonymous No.12036954 [Report] >>12037368
>>12030616
How many times do we have to tell you zoomers this? Videogames don't age.
Anonymous No.12037112 [Report] >>12037414
>>12034428
It was literally a 3D release title for the PS1
Anonymous No.12037368 [Report] >>12037447
>>12036954
I still don't think that's the right distinction. Everything has a context it was created in and when time has elapsed from that period it is naturally considered aged.
What matters more is if you can still engage with the medium as it was originally presented and if the adjustments to appeal to the modern equivalent audience adheres or deviates from that.
Most people don't bemoan conformity to modern typography but they do have split opinions if students should read Shakespeare or Chaucer in modern English.
The better question to ask then is if adjustments to how you control the game is more akin to the former or the latter.
Anonymous No.12037414 [Report]
>>12037112
He said he bought it in the PSN store, so unless he’s Japanese, he played one of the sequels.
Anonymous No.12037447 [Report] >>12038414
>>12037368
> I still don't think that's the right distinction. Everything has a context it was created in and when time has elapsed from that period it is naturally considered aged.
Fair enough, still, just as everything was created in its context and not in a vacuum, for me it is also then fair to ask for these works to be seen as products of their time.
The comparison with how the evolution of language warrants classic works of literature to be 'translated' almost to our modern one doesn't convince me to be honest; people (usually) do not read Chaucer or Shakespeare in the original english because they simply won't understand them, just like they wouldn't understand a french book if they do not speak french or how modern russians don't understand church slavonic, while in games saying something 'aged' is more often than not just a value judgment (see >>12030616). What is actually happening is that this anon doesn't like King's Field's slow gameplay, tank controls and blocky graphics. I do wonder if he would've really enjoyed it back in '94.
What I will concede though, is in the debate that adjustments to the game's controls are comparable to adjustments to a book's language 'modernization' or outright translation, on what can be lost or what stays the 'same', for lack of a better word. I'd argue that one is more drastic than the other, but still an interesting debate to have regardless.
Anonymous No.12037574 [Report] >>12037954
>>12030576 (OP)
Because it's a shit game. Play Ultima Underworld instead
Anonymous No.12037954 [Report]
>>12037574
But what if I played it and want something similar?
Anonymous No.12038010 [Report] >>12038117
>>12034428
>But seriously am I crazy believing that yes, KF could have amazed someone at the time?

It was an early PSX title in full 3D released in 1994. At the time only a handful of arcade games had 3D that were as good or surpassed it, not even computer games had that yet and wouldn't until 1996.
Anonymous No.12038117 [Report] >>12038159
>>12038010
>not even computer games had that yet
Ultima Underworld released 2 years prior. And Doom 1 year prior.
Anonymous No.12038118 [Report]
>>12030616
>fromsofts earlier works
>doesnt mention AC
Anonymous No.12038137 [Report]
are you playing KF1 JP or KF1 US????
anyway KF1jp if thats what your playing should be fun enough to play on its own if you just approach it for what it is. its one of the most rudimentary FPS exploration experiences i ever tried and i liked that because i felt like i was playing old school early 2000s runescape but in 1st person. thats the vibe the game had IMO. i really enjoyed that and floors while maze like are self contained so you should get stuck anywhere that long. KF1US (KF2JP) by contrast i didnt enjoy as much and never finished, i got lost and filtered in the ant nest cave. but i played it before the other game i mentioned so will retry it one day.
Anonymous No.12038159 [Report]
>>12038117
And neither have polygonal 3D enemies.
Anonymous No.12038414 [Report] >>12038726
>>12037447
>more often than not just a value judgment
That's a fair point. Even when people debate the value of translated and modernized classics, it's more often from the lens of "what should a beginner first attempt before diving deeper" or "which version should a school teach" and not a strict binary "A is superior to B because its old/new". Or at least, it's not until you start digging deeper into the material does that value comparison start arising from the autists (Shelly messed up the things her husband wrote in the second edition, the apocrypha actually fills in these gaps, yadda yadda).
Had the video game industry been consistent with its implementation of ports vs remasters vs remakes then I think the parallels would have been cleaner. But at the very least, any soulsbaby and zoomer giving a (genuine) attempt to earlier works is a plus in my book, since it'll at least give them more appreciation of what they already enjoy. But that requires being genuine and honest and well there's threads like these
Anonymous No.12038726 [Report]
>>12038414
>Had the video game industry been consistent with its implementation of ports vs remasters vs remakes then I think the parallels would have been cleaner.
Hard agree. I'd argue that the proliferation of remakes has the effect of entrenching those same negative feelings about old games ,i.e. rejecting them because they're old.
>But that requires being genuine and honest
Yup, the crux of the matter. I genuinely ask these zoomers to be honest with themselves and with ourselves. Don't say you hate such game because it 'aged poorly' and shit, sincerity is all you need, say: I hate tank controls, I play games where you can move the camera freely and your turning speed isn't set so I hate it when games aren't like that, I dislike wobbly ps1 graphics, slow games bore me, etc. I'm really interested in hearing the arguments of someone that believes games DO age, as it is an interesting debate about the nature of art and the passage of time, but it's always these value judgments man, that's an entirely different subject! At that point we're discussing why you dislike what you dislike.
Anonymous No.12039471 [Report] >>12039534 >>12040314
>>12030576 (OP)
1 is a PS1 launch release, it's extremely rudimentary and prototypal, it would filter even people who play PS1. You're better off playing backwards starting with 4 or at least 3
Anonymous No.12039534 [Report]
>>12039471
No, that is a bad idea, it's better to start off with 1 with no expectations and enjoying it for what it is and if he can't get through it, skip to 2 and play in order from there, if 2 doesn't hook him, it's not for him.
One tip I will give is to talk to people again after you make progress, they'll often have more info about the world, characters or secrets to give, sometimes lots in a row but one has to wait like 8 seconds between talks to update to the next topic.
Many don't catch this and miss out on a lot of the world building and story the game has.
Anonymous No.12039545 [Report]
>>12030576 (OP)
>>12030583
You come to terms with it, because it's the truth.
Anonymous No.12039547 [Report] >>12039573
>>12030616
>King's Field is the kind of game you had to experience in its time. The same thing, in my opinion, applies to Goldeneye. If you didn't play it back then, avoid it, it's just dated garbage. If you did, nostalgia might make it bearable.
That's a false equivalence, for starters, no one played King's Field when it originally released, certainly least of all Americans, secondly, Goldeneye is a much better game than King's Field.
Anonymous No.12039573 [Report]
>>12039547
Lmao
Anonymous No.12040314 [Report]
>>12039471
First game is great.
Anonymous No.12040319 [Report] >>12040357
Play because you want to
Anonymous No.12040357 [Report]
>>12040319
This.