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Game Grading
You guys think grading video games will be more popular in the future or is it dying down?
Anonymous No.12094036 [Report] >>12094071 >>12094357
Whoever this faggot is he knew what he was doing
Anonymous No.12094062 [Report] >>12094357 >>12094784 >>12095194 >>12095742 >>12097398 >>12102064
>>12094034 (OP)
None of these games have any demand.
Anonynous No.12094071 [Report] >>12094108
>>12094036
>Whoever this faggot is he knew what he was doing
What was he doing? I'm too dim to notice
Anonymous No.12094079 [Report] >>12094081
>>12094034 (OP)
I think the general consensus from anybody who actually plays video games is that grading is retarded. It's not gonna be popular.
Anonynous No.12094081 [Report] >>12094108 >>12095621
>>12094034 (OP)
>>12094079
What is game grading?
Anonymous No.12094091 [Report]
>>12094034 (OP)
"collectors" ruin everything.
Anonymous No.12094105 [Report] >>12094368
It's insane to me how years ago, I thought paying hundreds for games would only ever be an issue for games released in cartridge based consoles. It never crossed my mind that would also happen to Disk based consoles like the PS2...
Anonymous No.12094108 [Report] >>12094634 >>12095131
>>12094071
Look at what specific games are in the OP pic. All of those are the ones that defy the normal PS2 aftermarket and have had ridiculously high prices for decades. Now think how fucked those already exorbitant prices are now that these games have been graded.

>>12094081
Price gouging bullshit created by some organization you've never heard of that somehow has sole authority on evaluating the specular financial investment return on your piece of pop media collectible. Because being able to sell a new factory sealed copy of Wii Sports for hundreds of dollars isn't enough, getting it graded can triple or even quadruple the selling price because "they said so".
There's several of these orgs but I'm pretty sure they're all the same fucking one, just separated based on the entertainment type (video game, vhs, dvd, toys, etc.)
Anonymous No.12094357 [Report] >>12101264
>>12094036
>buy dozens of unsealed copies off ebay
>grade them using meme company
>knew what he was doing
i doubt this person has the ability to look down and see their own genitals.

>>12094062
this anon gets it.
Anonymous No.12094368 [Report] >>12094536
>>12094105
ebay grifters - basically. you have these absolute failures trying to charge hundreds of dollars for a game they found for $2 in a pawn shop. thankfully nobody with an iq higher than 5 points is giving these losers money.
Anonymous No.12094390 [Report]
BRO DUDE I OWN A GAME YOU CANT PLAY WITHOUT RUINING THE VALUE SO ITS JUST A PLASTIC PIECE OF SHIT LMAO
Anonymous No.12094406 [Report] >>12095036
>>12094034 (OP)
As a poor person this makes me so angry.
Anonymous No.12094456 [Report] >>12094460 >>12096154 >>12099594
>>12094034 (OP)
What's the point of paying for a game that you can't play? That's the sole purpose of it...
Anonymous No.12094460 [Report]
>>12094456
zoomer's version of collecting baseball cards
Anonymous No.12094479 [Report]
>>12094034 (OP)
>paying hundreds of dollars for some manchild's sloppy seconds
Why?
Anonymous No.12094536 [Report] >>12094618 >>12095083 >>12099458 >>12106379
>>12094368
the sellers aren't the issue. it's the coomlectors who need an original copy on the shelf forever that cause the price inflation. ebay sellers keep the price down by increasing the supply while collectors ruin the hobby for actual gamers by removing copies from the supply.
Anonymous No.12094618 [Report] >>12094620
>>12094536
>ebay sellers keep the price down by increasing the supply
absolutely 100% provably false.
>while collectors ruin the hobby for actual gamers by removing copies from the supply.
collectors aren't the ones charging $200+ for a ps2 game that $2-5 10+ years ago. they haven't hoarded the millions of copies of games and choking supply. please give up smoking fentanyl.
Anonymous No.12094620 [Report] >>12094628
>>12094618
Prove it's false then, retard. It's common sense that collectors decrease the supply and increase price while sellers increase the supply and lower the price. Did you fail economics in school?
Anonymous No.12094628 [Report] >>12096154
>>12094620
>it's common sense
no, it's nothing more than schizo babble lies from a window licking, padded jacket and helmet wearing, riding on the special bus to school level of fucking retard.

let me have a wild guess.. you are one of these failures on ebay trying to sell such trash for hundreds of dollars?
Anonymous No.12094634 [Report]
>>12094108
It's not because they said so, it's because retards are willing to pay more for slabbed games. In some ways it makes sense as a way to authenticate the game as genuine for old and rare games that can be hard go determine but I digress
Anonymous No.12094682 [Report] >>12095024 >>12103312
>>12094034 (OP)
I think the number of people that are into the WATA scam has never changed. At this point no one is dumb enough to buy into the scam and people who have already invested into this shit are just going to keep selling their shit to each other to manipulate their own market.
Anonymous No.12094784 [Report] >>12095004
>>12094062
Haunting Grounds has demand among PS2 fans. Graded copies sell for north of $1,000 and somehow people buy it.
Anonymous No.12095004 [Report]
>>12094784
Still makes me laugh how I bought a brand new copy for £20 a few years ago. Game had a reprint and was worthless until recently.
Anonymous No.12095024 [Report]
>>12094682
is there any way to stop the wata scam ?
Anonymous No.12095036 [Report]
>>12094406
Why? Just emulate.
Anonymous No.12095042 [Report]
>>12094034 (OP)
this is based
Anonymous No.12095073 [Report] >>12095198 >>12095627 >>12098050 >>12098108 >>12101353 >>12103020
>That will be $10,000 + fees + taxes + tariffs + tips + shipping
Anonymous No.12095075 [Report] >>12095079
why does this mindbreak /vr/?
Anonymous No.12095079 [Report]
>>12095075
who's mindbroken?
Anonymous No.12095082 [Report] >>12095161
>>12094034 (OP)
Theres a pawn shop near me that has a display case of graded ps1 games that have sat there for atleast 5 years. I would actually probably buy some of them if they cracked em out.
Anonymous No.12095083 [Report] >>12097469
>>12094536
Actual gamers are not selling their copies.
Anonymous No.12095084 [Report] >>12095120 >>12095125
I buy video games to play them.
My collection is a bunch of games I bought throughout life that I played and liked.
Anonymous No.12095120 [Report]
>>12095084
brave and stunning
Anonymous No.12095125 [Report] >>12096168 >>12097409 >>12098050
>>12095084
>You NEED that extra sealed copy of GTA.
Anonymous No.12095131 [Report] >>12095182 >>12100854
>>12094108
>PS2 aftermarket and have had ridiculously high prices for decades.
i bought silent hill 1-4 for around 50 bucks each in 2018.
Anonymous No.12095151 [Report]
>>12094034 (OP)
You can cut the virginity with a knife
Anonymous No.12095161 [Report] >>12095186
>>12095082
in 2023 i needed money and went to pawn my copies of SH1-4 and RE1-3 and they offered me 2 bucks each because thats what they give for PS1 and PS2 games apparently while he was on pricecharting in the same moment looking them up,i argue that they were selling for a lot then he said they go for around 60 but he was looking up the PAL version on pricecharting then was arguing when did you saw PS2 going for those price here,i had actually bought Siren from them like a month ago and they had a copy of drakengard 3 going for 100bucks which was gone then.
i took my games and went back home,never pawned after that and last time i went to look for guitar amps everything was overpriced and i shit you not they had a copy of silent hill 2 going for 220 bucks and a copy of FF7 going for 90 and other stuff going for ridiculous price,i will never go back there in my life.
Anonymous No.12095170 [Report] >>12095173 >>12095186 >>12095201 >>12099456
>>12094034 (OP)
It’s going together more popular. Just look at the trajectory of classic comic books, it’s a very similar phenomenon.
>throwaway original product begins to hold nostalgia value for small set of collectors some years after its inception
>product/ip becomes more embedded in popular culture, original source material becomes more sought after
>media mines source material for tv/film etc, juicing demand further
>source material demand sends it into bubble-tulip mania territory
>self-perpetuating cycle of interest as younger generations seek after pricey materials kept expensive by faggot collectors
>faggot collectors eventually retire/die/run out of funds
>price comes down but never enough
It’s going to get even more popular over the next 10-20 years as Gen X and millennials get middle-aged. Peak earning years. Multiply all this x100 if the government keeps printing money and devaluing our currency.
Anonymous No.12095173 [Report]
>>12095170
*to get
Anonymous No.12095182 [Report] >>12095214
>>12095131
>He thinks fifty bucks is cheap for old games that were printed in the millions.
I rarely even pay that much for brand new ones.
Anonymous No.12095186 [Report] >>12095247 >>12096175
>>12094034 (OP)
This image disgusts me.
>>12095170
Gen X is already middle-aged, and so are older Millennials.
>>12095161
Pawn shops are a ripoff for both buyers and sellers.
Anonymous No.12095194 [Report]
>>12094062
Rule Of Rose has shot up a lot in price.
Anonymous No.12095198 [Report] >>12095408
>>12095073
>40 bids
And they're ALL from associates of the seller.
Anonymous No.12095201 [Report] >>12095434
>>12095170
>Just look at the trajectory of classic comic books
That speculation bubble busted back in the day, did it regrow? I can't imagine anything but actually rare and actually desirable issues in good condition being worth anything, like that one specific original copy of Action Comics #1.
Anonymous No.12095214 [Report] >>12095321
>>12095182
you are just a cheapstake then.
sorry but 50$ isnt big money.
Anonymous No.12095219 [Report] >>12103631
>>12094034 (OP)
It's a fraudulent business, and everyone involved with it should be jailed, just look up what happened with the "prototype" pokémon cards
Anonymous No.12095247 [Report] >>12095273
>>12095186
Pawn shops can be great when its stuff not in demand. I was getting 3 for $10 6th gen stuff in the early 2010s at my local shop and another had boxes filled with gameboy/color/advance games for 2 dollars or 3 for 5, which i got a bunch of even back then high in price titles.

CashConverters was also godly back in the 90s and 2000s for nes and snes stuff.
Anonymous No.12095273 [Report]
>>12095247
Everything was godly until the mid 2010s and beyond. Normies dropped old games like they were trash and the people getting into "retro" hadn't exploded yet.
Anonymous No.12095321 [Report]
>>12095214
It isn't much, but that doesn't mean you must waste money. Paying three times the price doesn't make you cool, just retarded.
Anonymous No.12095406 [Report]
>>12094034 (OP)
Total retardation. I hope it will die soon.
Anonymous No.12095408 [Report]
>>12095198
One of them isn't and is baited to overbids.
Anonymous No.12095434 [Report] >>12096193
>>12095201
>did it regrow?
Yes, fuck yes…significant back issues pre-2000s have inflated prices. Even first appearances of no-name characters that got a marvel movie cameo get overvalued. Forget about anything truly pivotal. And for real classics like amazing spider-man vol1, the age of the issues alone is enough to command wacky prices. Grading acts as the unfortunate justification, and something similar is occurring in the retro game market.
Anonymous No.12095597 [Report] >>12095673
>>12094034 (OP)
Weren't those game key cards being graded recently? What is even the purpose of this crap? Can someone inform me? Because I see it as a joke if game key cards were being graded.
Anonymous No.12095621 [Report]
>>12094081
You pay an "expert" to evaluate how close your game is to "mint condition"

Popular with TCG card collectors who love paying $100 to grade a $120 card.
Anonymous No.12095627 [Report]
>>12095073
That grading case is disgusting and would make the display case look tacky.
Anonymous No.12095673 [Report] >>12095763
>>12095597
Fuckers were grading vhs tapes and those amiibo mario cereal boxes. Anything tards perceive as future value, they will slab.
Anonymous No.12095742 [Report] >>12095779
>>12094062
I'd love to own the Silent Hill games if I could get them at a good price. However I'd much prefer a modern port since I don't want to have to play them on my PS2 again as the consoles are old at this point and soon enough we won't even have the right tv's to play these games anymore. I guess its emulation exclusively for me then.
Anonymous No.12095763 [Report]
>>12095673
Man I almost envy them for having the chuzpah to get easy money out of retards like that.
Anonymous No.12095779 [Report]
>>12095742
I got lucky and bought my ex gfs entire retro collection from her for just $80 in 2020...she had Silent Hill 3, Fatal Frame, Medievil, Resident Evil 2 and 3, Manhunt, MK Trilogy, Crash 2, Spyro 1, Sly Cooper 1+3, KH2, hell there was even a whole PS2 console and peripherals thrown in there too for good measure...don't think i'll ever get a score like that ever again
Anonymous No.12096127 [Report] >>12096151
I really doubt people actually buy Haunting Ground for +1000 usd. It's all fake sales ans speculation on eBay. It's like Hyper Duel on Saturn, so called """rare""" games that you can find dozens of copies on eBay and for some reasons the sellers have been the same more than 10 years yet the price keep going up.
Anonymous No.12096151 [Report]
>>12096127
I was at TooManyGays 2 years ago at a booth known for selling high priced shit. Some fat dude came over and bought a copy of Kuon for 1000 dollars.
Anonymous No.12096153 [Report]
>>12094034 (OP)
I love how Kuon is $1000, and the game is shit despite that. In a review I saw the YouTuber's copy didnt even work and he had to pirate it anyway. LERMAO.
Anonymous No.12096154 [Report]
>>12094456
People trade their joy for greed. It's sad. Games are meant to be played and enjoyed.
>>12094628
NTA, but bro, it's basic supply and demand. When the supply goes down, if the demand doesn't also go down, then the price will go up.
Anonymous No.12096168 [Report] >>12097409
>>12095125
This is a shrine at this point. It has stopped being a game to this person and turned into a place of worship for them.
Anonymous No.12096175 [Report] >>12101369
>>12095186
I'm 40. Society has flip flopped on what generation I'm a part of for my entire life.
Anonymous No.12096178 [Report]
It's only even PS1 era, which is pricey. PS2 is getting up there, but only select games will ever crack $100 market value. Most PS2 games are still below $40.
Anonymous No.12096193 [Report]
>>12095434
I encountered this a few years ago. I dug out my old comic book collection and catalogued it all. Then I made some decisions, I sold off the series I didn't care about as much and the lone issue outliers. Random issue of The Amazing Spider-Man from the early 200s? Sell it. I didn't really get much for anything. Most I got was for my issue #1 of Wolverine, which wasn't that much.
When it came to buying though, I started searching for all the oddball issues to fill in the gaps. No more weird crap like having issues 380, 382-384, 386-388, & 390. No. I was going to make that a full coherent 380-390. Many of these issues were nothing special, yet even they were sometimes going for $10 a pop. It made it easier for me to trim the edges. Afterall, these were purely luxury purchases because I'd rather read from a physical book then a screen if I can. I know of a site in which I can download comic books for free and have gotten thousands of comics that way. Digitally, I have the entire Amazing Spider-Man run and I got it for free. I don't need to spend money to read this shit and I'm only willing to spend so much for the physical copies of them.
Anonymous No.12096201 [Report]
>>12094034 (OP)
I'm about to just start my own grading organization which is nothing more than a shitty single page weebly website, then I just start putting all of my eBay games in plastic boxes with a sticker that says something like "/VR/ GRADING ASSOCIATION - 9.5" and a link to the website. I bet half of people wouldn't know or care if it was bullshit and would just pay and buy more because of some at-a-glance box and tag signaling "this is legit bro".
Anonymous No.12096274 [Report]
We have the same problem with older TRPGs products - price inflation for older D&D modules or Cthulhu sourcebooks have been quite something.
Somebody once pointed out to me the previous generation had the same phenomenon with miniature car models. But the grading craze is another level of retardation.
Anonymous No.12096793 [Report] >>12096992
What's stopping them from taking the game for themselves, "grading" it, and shipping back an empty box with a high rating?
Dave No.12096817 [Report]
>>12094034 (OP)
>Game Grading

Scam. But I wish I was running that racket.
Anonymous No.12096992 [Report] >>12102069
>>12096793
The customer might break it open and find out. Something a lot of these people do is that they send a game in to get it graded and slabbed, and then they break the slab and send it in again to get it graded again, because they wanted a higher score.
They repeat that again and again until they get a high enough score on it.
Anonymous No.12097327 [Report]
>>12094034 (OP)
Grading anything is just a cheap way to mark up resell prices. It's a massive scam.
Anonymous No.12097398 [Report]
>>12094062
False.
>Kuon, Rule of Rose, Haunting Ground, Cold Fear
In demand among the PS2 horror crowd, which is a real significant market.
>Silent Hill 2, 3, 4, Origins, SM
All high demand since 2020, increasing with every new game.
>Resident Evil 4, Code Veronica
NOT high demand to the degree where you need to seal up copies, they're very mass produced titles on PS2.
>Outbreak 1 and 2
VERY high demand thanks to RE9.
Anonymous No.12097409 [Report] >>12097516
>>12096168
>>12095125
>>12094034 (OP)
The sad part for me is that the case and orientation of the games (in addition to the amount of space you need to do this) looks really cool, but just the actual contents are disgusting.
Imagine having a big-ass room you could dedicate like this, but it's your actual collection and even bigger than it. Every didc game you'd ever want to own grandly displayed like this -- that'd be damn cool.
But as a poorfag, seeing someone with the money to do that doing this shit with it makes me wanna smash his head through the glass and hit his GTA shelf with his car.
Anonymous No.12097469 [Report] >>12097594
>>12095083
Exactly. Those people cause the prices to inflate by permanently removing items from the supply that are no longer produced. If you didn't have hoarders/collectors the prices would stay the same.
Anonymous No.12097516 [Report]
>>12097409
>But as a poorfag,
Do not bemoan this. Just 5 years ago I was broke and only getting by month to month by selling off my stuff. Now I've gotten a good enough job and make good enough money.
Having been poor at one point in your life, if you should find yourself with excess money, then remember the times you were poor. You will view things like this as a waste of money and frivolous. Better to keep a bit more in the bank account as a buffer than to throw it away on overpriced games for display.
Anonymous No.12097594 [Report]
>>12097469
>If you didn't have hoarders/collectors the prices would stay the same
Any high-priced retro game you see is priced as such purely due to perceived resale value. Rarity and availability has absolutely fucking nothing to do with the price.
A game that is perceived as "rare" for selling only a million copies will regularly sell for much higher prices than a game that's known to have only sold 25000 copies.
There's retail console games so god damn rare that they don't even have a Mobygames or Pricecharting page and yet still go for like 5 bucks a pop when they show up on eBay once a decade, where as there's games that sold 2 million copies and always has at least two dozen ebay listings selling for 50 bucks for a loose copy in horrible condition because it's perceived as more valuable.
Anonymous No.12098050 [Report] >>12098137
>>12094034 (OP)
>>12095073
>>12095125
how do they all have a 9.8 score?
Anonymous No.12098079 [Report]
Grading? Like an exam, for games? Lmao. The "game" is in the mind of the beholder, the player. The rest is cheap plastic and cardboard.
Anonymous No.12098108 [Report]
>>12095073
This is so retarded, FFVII is everywhere for a few dollars
Anonymous No.12098137 [Report]
>>12098050
They paid a fee
Anonymous No.12098153 [Report] >>12098192
>>12094034 (OP)
these fags are worse than beanie baby collectors
Anonymous No.12098192 [Report] >>12100363
>>12098153
How many speculator fads do we need to go through before people cotton on it's a scam.
>Quietly pushes boxes of comics under bed
Anonymous No.12098216 [Report] >>12099342 >>12099624
XD
Anonymous No.12099342 [Report]
>>12098216
>ditto and merill on box
noooice
Anonymous No.12099456 [Report] >>12100456 >>12105686
>>12095170
Action Comics #1 sold exactly 200,000 copies in 1938 because that's exactly how many they printed. Less than 100 copies of it still exist in any quality, and most of them aren't the kind of quality that fetches a $1 Million price tag. It was printed on paper and sold with no slip cover, and most copies were thrown away.

All these Silent Hill games sold a similar number of copies, and all the Resident Evil games sold 1 million+. Because they are a good that inherently had a resale market, even if it was just a few dollars, most of them were not thrown away, and are still sitting in houses, closets, and warehouses somewhere. Hundreds of thousands of copies of these games still exist, and thousands of them are on sale at any given time. WATA is a money laundering scheme and if you are dumb enough to buy WATA graded trash over ungraded shit on ebay, in game stores, or literally ANY BOOK OR GAME STORE IN JAPAN, you deserve to lose your money.

Here's the secret that people don't realize: Gen X and younger Americans with money are REALLY STUPID. The entirety of younger generations who are new money are only new money because of nepotism and being friends with the right people who hired them and overpay them. They feel an inherent NEED to spend all the money they make so they can feel like a big shot because despite making well over $250,000 a year they have a 90 IQ. So they will purposefully pay too much money for things on purpose to raise the price of those things out of the price range that poors can pay so they can feel superior to them. If they find out they got ripped off, they think, "Oh based, just proves I can afford to spend it, haha." They drive around in soda-stained $80,000 vehicles looking for any opportunity to blow $300 a day on junk while telling everyone to keep the change. By the end of the decade they will have spent millions of dollars on games that they'll lose money on. Happened with comics in the 90s, will happen with games too.
Anonymous No.12099458 [Report] >>12099564
>>12094536
real gamers have soft modded their consoles to avoid all these scalpers
Anonymous No.12099564 [Report]
>>12099458
real gamers bought everything they wanted before you were born
Anonymous No.12099594 [Report] >>12100239
>>12094456
Collecting is good and bad. On the one hand it preserves physical, on the other it drives physical prices up.

This is caused of course by increased demand but overall this is actually a great thing. As much as I hate these collectorfags, the more interest in retro vidya means more money in it means more new products and people making things like emulators. It's actually great. Nowadays you don't need physical, some emulators have gotten so good they are cycle accurate and FREE. Run them on whatever computer you want. The more people into retro the better it is for all, unless you absolutely MUST play on original hardware on a CRT (but you don't need to do that because we have low latency upscalers of various formats precisely for this reason). However the additional downside is higher prices for these new products as well due to demand.
Anonymous No.12099624 [Report]
>>12098216
Imagine redditors getting into bidding wars over this.
Anonymous No.12100239 [Report] >>12100984
>>12099594
I don't think it works like this. Trapping the game inside a box can potentially be used for the preservation, but in this particular case the most you preserve is the case, cover, manual, disk itself etc. But not the software itself, and I would argue this is the most important part.
Also I'm not sure if there is a strong correlation between the amount of money floating in the hobby and the quality of the products you get, provided that people work on the tools for free.
Anonymous No.12100363 [Report]
>>12098192
>Quietly pushes boxes of comics under bed
Not comparable. Comics are something that can be read and enjoyed. At least comics before 2015 could be enjoyed. Buying a comic you want to read and keeping it is not he same as speculative collection buying.
You were actually reading the comics you bought, weren't you anon?
Anonymous No.12100432 [Report] >>12100435
>>12094034 (OP)
Why do people grade games? I understand comics amd pokemon cards but this? Thats just dumb.
Anonymous No.12100435 [Report] >>12100791
>>12100432
to sell them for money
Anonymous No.12100438 [Report]
>>12094034 (OP)
Plastic hoarders aren't gamers and they can go bankrupt buying overpriced games for all I care, with emulaction, scarcity isn't an issue for people who actually want to play games.
Anonymous No.12100456 [Report]
>>12099456
>So they will purposefully pay too much money for things on purpose to raise the price of those things out of the price range that poors can pay so they can feel superior to them
You’re describing what is called a positional good in economics, whereby something’s value increases precisely because others cannot possess it.
>By the end of the decade they will have spent millions of dollars on games that they'll lose money on. Happened with comics in the 90s, will happen with games too.
The 90s crash was more of a scam bc publishers were intentionally flooding the market with variant covers to tantalize collectors and stoke mania. It ultimately didn’t work bc the demand was fake. Contrast that with retro games, systems, etc: there’s no corporate astroturfed movement going on, you need to think of retro games as shitcoins or, charitably, alternative assets. It’s so hard to get reliable returns on your labor, and most cannot afford significant assets. Add to that the continuing devaluation of currency, and you can begin to see all these collector markets as proxies for the value of money, kind of like another bitcoin. Not that any of these will appreciate that much lol.
Anonymous No.12100791 [Report]
>>12100435
and people will buy the damn things without even playing them? Thats 40 year old virgin tier shit.
Anonymous No.12100854 [Report] >>12101015
>>12095131
anon...you dont think 200 dollars is a lot to spend on plastic discs? This isn't even hardware you are dropping that kind of money into. They are slowly degrading discs that have a single function.
Anonymous No.12100984 [Report] >>12102509
>>12100239
>But not the software itself, and I would argue this is the most important part.
Digital preservation is key to this. Otherwise we would all be paying hundreds of dollars for real copies that one day will be broken or worn out.

More demand means more financial incentive to produce shit. Consider just clone consoles. There are probably multiple different clone consoles of each 16bbit era system floating around right now. Without people to buy this, it won't be developed or made.
Anonymous No.12101015 [Report]
>>12100854
i think 50 bucks is fine for a video game i like and can replay multiple times,you never bought a game brand new ever ? i can compare with other things that costed me around 50$,ive bought a typewriter for 50$ its single function but i use it often,sure a i could use a computer but i prefer that and dont mind that its just used to type,i've bought headphones for 50 bucks and the sound quality is great but its also single function and they will also degrade with time but what doesnt,i've often drop 50$ or more on a single bottle of alcohol and what do i have after i drank it,if you go to a good restaurant its easy to spend over 50bucks,going to the cinema with a family of 4 will cost almost 50 without even buying foods and drinks.
Anonymous No.12101234 [Report] >>12101317
>>12094034 (OP)
Faggots like this deserve to lose everything in a fire.
Anonymous No.12101264 [Report] >>12101371
>>12094357
>their
faggot
Anonymous No.12101317 [Report]
>>12101234
That's bad for everyone. They deserve to sell it all to increase retro supply and reduce prices. They can keep some of it as long as they are responsible collectors who keep it well preserved.
Anonymous No.12101353 [Report] >>12101372
>>12095073
There was a 9.2 on sale for half that, but you gotta pay for quality.
Anonymous No.12101369 [Report]
>>12096175
The hidden game within the widespread practice of magical generational tribename flinging is to try to get through your entire life without ever either learning what timespans all the magical tribe names refer to or learning which magical tribe you yourself are supposed to be part of. If you succeed at that, the angels give you a bonus score multiplier of 1.2 when you reach heaven
Anonymous No.12101371 [Report] >>12102090
>>12101264
>ESL
Anonymous No.12101372 [Report]
>>12101353
Imagine having a 9.94. Think of all the amazing things you could get done with such an excellent tool in your possession. Wow, to be rich
Malarkey Cream No.12102064 [Report] >>12102068
>>12094062
This to an extent.
>>12094034 (OP)
Dying down. Games are interactive, not paper weighs or wall art. Only prototypes, not for resale, and tournament editions specialty made for events, should be slabbed. Granted, they've been dumped/preserved first.
Malarkey Cream No.12102068 [Report]
>>12102064
Forgot pic
>inb4 new
Anonymous No.12102069 [Report] >>12104023
>>12096992
That sounds embarrassing for everyone involved.
Anonymous No.12102090 [Report]
>>12101371
Hail MAGA brother!
Anonymous No.12102509 [Report] >>12103965
>>12100984
>Digital preservation is key to this
That's what I mean. You digitize everything so it can be recreated, and then enclose it somewhere safe. But that's not what those graders do.

Regarding demand, grading is the result of increased demand, not the reason. Repro carts and clone consoles were developed before grading, and I have my doubts that people paying money for latter somehow create incentive to make more of the former.
Anonymous No.12103007 [Report]
>>12094034 (OP)
Video games and VHS tapes are not like paper goods like cards and comics

The new for it to be graded and sealed away and thus "protected and certified" makes less sense.

There is bootleg trading cards, there is bookleg comic books but the bootleg video games rarely are 1 for 1 like the original. At best you get a loose cart with an off colored plastic and label with no box

Grading games is just for recent collectors looking for their next "investment"
Anonymous No.12103020 [Report] >>12103026
>>12095073
> WATA
> Shill bidded
> Over $10,000 with fees, insurance, and shipping
> The generation that saw any value in this and would have been a buyer is now getting smart and just emulating everything pre-2005

If the dude really wanted it? Sure he just wasted a lot of money, but if he was thinking he got an investment......... that poor sucker.......
Anonymous No.12103026 [Report] >>12103029 >>12103043 >>12103043
>>12103020
You are a complete idiot if you think collecting has anything to do with playing the games.
Anonymous No.12103029 [Report] >>12103081
>>12103026
Looks like we got another WATA grader in the thread folks

Get out of here you snake
Anonymous No.12103043 [Report] >>12103081
>>12103026
Someone ban this IP address of >>12103026
. These are the same guys who don't want emulation or backing up rare files of games to exist. Mod if you don't block him now, he will whistle blow on us later
Anonymous No.12103081 [Report]
>>12103029
>>12103043
I almost exclusively emulate, because I collect sealed games. I also happen to support piracy and archival efforts. That's why I'm telling you though, that people who collect sealed games aren't buying them to play them, they're buying them to preserve them in their original state and own a piece of complete artwork. Saying "these guys made a bad investment because people emulate now lawl" is dumb and irrelevant. If somebody needed to buy the game ohysically to play it, they could get a used copy for a wee bit less than 10k. Sealed games are an investment that will only grow more valuable with time. These are just facts.
Anonymous No.12103312 [Report] >>12103321 >>12103585
>>12094682
PSA bought out WATA.
Anonymous No.12103321 [Report]
>>12103312
wata mess
Anonymous No.12103345 [Report]
>>12094034 (OP)
i think collectors are mentally ill and needs to be put down
Anonymous No.12103535 [Report]
>>12094034 (OP)
It can't die down, it was never popular outside of viral marketing and certain collectors. There's no interest for people that want to play game or even pretend that they want to play games. Has no appeal outside of certain collectors and resellers that think they can make more money off those collectors by paying $100 to some company that sets their own standards and who's only validity comes from the people naive enough to buy graded games or grade their games in the 1st place. I think the whole thing is a racket. People can use their own eyes to determine if something is damaged or not.
Anonymous No.12103585 [Report]
>>12103312
PSA bought WATA to kill it. They knew this would ruin the grading world's reputation and heritage auctions which PSA worked with a lot for big comic sales.

WATA was not only poison for the video game community, but it was poison for the larger collectible world and it's grading sphere.

PSA had to buy the demon so they could banish it forever.
Anonymous No.12103631 [Report] >>12103884
>>12095219
It's not fraudulent if the people are willing to pay that level of money. All they're doing is providing a platform with standards attached. Take it up with the market that's willing to pay the high value.
Anonymous No.12103642 [Report] >>12103728
whole lotta poorfaggot cope going on 'round these parts.
Anonymous No.12103728 [Report] >>12103735 >>12103891
>>12103642
WATA was banned from the Portland Gaming Expo. Other cons are going to follow. It's game over for their schemes
Anonymous No.12103735 [Report] >>12103797
>>12103728
i don't really give a fuck about wata or any other grading organizations. rare games had value before these scams and they'll have value afterwards (that's pretending these companies will go away mind you, which they won't). the guy on ebay using his christmas bonus to buy a sealed copy of OoT does not give a fuck about the portland gaming expo or any of this other shit. he just wants a sealed copy of the game, and he's going to pay a premium for it. the stuff is only going to get more and more expensive, the bubble isn't going to pop. my advice, start saving up that doordash money and buy these games while they're in the hundreds, because in 10 years they'll be in the thousands.
Anonymous No.12103797 [Report] >>12103831
>>12103735
Remember when boomers were gobbling up beanie babies cause they kept going up in value? Look how that worked out.
Anonymous No.12103831 [Report] >>12103872
>>12103797
>comparing flavor of the month plush dolls to the most popular form of media on the planet that has only become more popular for 40+ years and every game outside of early shit like atari has consistently gone up in value
you're retarded. don't say i didn't warn you.
Anonymous No.12103872 [Report] >>12103895
>>12103831
sorry but most zoomer cant stand games made before 2010 and gen alpha plays mobile slop.
Anonymous No.12103884 [Report]
>>12103631
They were willing to pay that money because they were fraudulently led to believe the cards were genuine, which they were not.
Anonymous No.12103891 [Report] >>12103906
>>12103728
Source?
I'm going Saturday for the first time and genuinely want to know if they're that based.
Anonymous No.12103895 [Report]
>>12103872
pure cope. 10+ years from now there are still going to be soimales making le hidden gemz videos and people will still be buying up increasingly rare copies of games. even if zoomers and younger generations didn't care a single bit (they do, since a huge portion of the retro games market is young people), there will still be hundreds of millions of millenials alive for the next 50-some years, and that's more than enough people to sustain a market based on products of finite quantity for decades. i'm going to laugh so hard at you tards when i unload all of my shit in the 2030s and make back 5x what i paid, while you'll still be saying "the bubble is gonna pop... a-any day now...", just like you have been for the last 13 years.
Anonymous No.12103906 [Report] >>12103919
>>12103891
They are very based, WATA hurt the image of video games and while yes WATA is just a grading service, it gave a false image of video games as this jeweled investment pieces and while Portland had them there in the past, they will not stand for them anymore.
Anonymous No.12103919 [Report] >>12104203
>>12103906
I understand but I can't find any evidence that Wata was specifically banned, and other companies like CGC and Heritage are still attending.
Anonymous No.12103965 [Report]
>>12102509
Yeah that's basically what I'm saying. All of this is just a symptom of demand, which is ultimately a much greater good than harm.
Anonymous No.12104023 [Report]
>>12102069
It should cement to you what a complete racket that the slabbing thing is.
Anonymous No.12104203 [Report] >>12104216
>>12103919
CGC and Heritage didn't hurt the hobby.
WATA did a lot of bad and fake press did.

Like another anon said. PSA bought WATA to bury it because it hurt a lot of companies' images.
Anonymous No.12104216 [Report]
>>12104203
Heritage was colluding with Wata. They're all toxic turning games into an investment commodity.
Anonymous No.12105565 [Report] >>12105620
>>12094034 (OP)
How do you get a grade 10?
Anonymous No.12105620 [Report]
>>12105565
bribes
Anonymous No.12105657 [Report]
>>12094034 (OP)
IDK why but seeing a perfect looking old favorite game in a original box, gives me extreme feelings of contentment. The premiums on this feeling its not worth 10000. If I could get a 200$ copy of Mega Man 2 then all right thats cool.
Anonymous No.12105671 [Report] >>12106513
>>12094034 (OP)
My only problem with this is that he could save like 50% of the space if he showed only one copy of each game face on and just left the rest side stacked
Anonymous No.12105686 [Report]
>>12099456
I would argue against this by saying, the rarity of games in a pristine box must be still pretty good, not 100 copies but who knows if you get the right game, it might be close to that.

It depends on what science says.
Anonymous No.12106379 [Report]
>>12094536
>drug dealers aren't to blame if people buy drugs
kys
modded console bro btw
Anonymous No.12106513 [Report]
>>12105671
Because it's never about the game, it's about the grade and investment

These are not part of our tribe. They are outsiders here to destroy and consume