Thread 12168397

DOOM THREAD / RETRO FPS THREAD - Last thread: >>12160238

Doom/Quake/Duke/Heretic/Hexen/Unreal/Sam/Half-Life/etc
Gameplay, WADs/Maps/Mods, Source Ports
All other 90s FPS welcome
~ Let's post like gentlemen ~

FAQ/GENERAL GUIDE
https://rentry.org/vrbin

SO YOU WANT TO PLAY SOME FUCKING DOOM
(or Quake, Duke, Marathon, Deus Ex)
https://imgur.com/a/wWS8zXz

Same thing, in video format:
https://youtu.be/ietb4JwaaXA
https://youtu.be/DhOjleMqwdQ
https://youtu.be/CGj4gXyCzg0

== GAMES/RESOURCES ==
DOOM Quickstart (IWADs etc): https://mediafire.com/file/wuniyrhsjjgq4y8
QUAKE Trilogy FAQ: https://pastebin.com/Ucb11XhU

PortaDOOM:
https://github.com/Kroc/PortaDOOM/releases
HALF-LIFE (GoldSrc) Anthology:
https://mega.nz/file/GRUCGbAY#RhOiqxnf7UPOiXcJNbRh-prKIEVRhjJaEpAkt34lyZg
4CHAN DOSPACK + Win98 games:
https://mega.nz/#F!3t8nzSIS!947kyMN6Z80f8HS7q2XlqA

Assorted /vr/ shooters, mods, etc:
https://mega.nz/#F!QXIk1bjB!NHRWGIfjcc77PyGgRlga4Q
https://mega.nz/#F!GtEQTISJ!CCJGyPEEEsZasc1PMXicUA

MIDI COLLECTIONS
https://files.catbox.moe/2hul76.zip
https://mega.nz/file/dWQ3SThI#qYcpa4eGQj6ElyRZgjGqszR59dh4Fq9D3qXYee54kZQ
https://archive.org/details/archiveteam-geocities-midi-collection-2009
https://archive.org/details/midiru-archive-2022-02-25.7z

== INFO/LINKS ==
OFFICIAL DOOM WIKI
https://doomwiki.org/

WHERE TO FIND WADS
Vanilla/Boom: https://doomworld.com/forum/4-wads-mods/
ZDoom: https://forum.zdoom.org/viewforum.php?f=19
/idgames: https://doomworld.com/idgames/

MODDING RESOURCES
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewforum.php?f=37
https://realm667.com/

== /VR/DOOM COMMUNITY ==
THREAD ARCHIVES
https://desuarchive.org/vr/search/text/"doom thread"/type/op/

OUR WADS/MODS
https://rentry.org/vrdepot

MAKING NEW THREADS PROPERLY
https://pastebin.com/8mDnrsrB

IMAGE/WAD DATABASE
https://vrdoom.booru.org/
https://clovr.xyz/wadsup/

MULTIPLAYER SERVERS
US West: https://clovr.xyz/
CA/US Midwest: https://macgu.fun/

=== CURRENT PROJECTS ===
Duke It Out in /vr/
Game : DN3D | Deadline : Jan 1st 2026
Tile/Con pack: https://files.catbox.moe/thm4q7.zip
Rules: https://desuarchive.org/vr/post/11835634

SUB MORTEM : A Dead Simple Halloween Project
Game : Doom 2, MBF21 | Deadline : Almost done apparently?
Current submissions: https://files.catbox.moe/5u8dn8.zip

=== CURRENT RELEASES ===
Deep /vr/ied Potato
IWAD : Doom 2 | Format : MBF21
RC1: https://files.catbox.moe/3fml1f.zip
Now on iDGames!

/Vertex Relocation/
IWAD : Doom 2 | Format : Boom
RC5: https://files.catbox.moe/a4tbzi.zip

=== NEWS ===
[11-07] UZDoom 4.14.3 RC1 released
https://github.com/UZDoom/UZDoom/releases/tag/4.14.3-rc1

[11-07] Fate: A Doom Total Conversion, Episode 2 released
https://www.moddb.com/mods/fate-a-doom-total-conversion

[11-05] LibreQuake v0.09-beta released
https://github.com/lavenderdotpet/LibreQuake/releases/tag/v0.09-beta

[11-04] Deep /vr/ied Potato, Doomworld release!
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/155904

[11-04] Heretic + Hexen Update 2
https://slayersclub.bethesda.net/en-US/article/heretic-hexen-update-2

[11-03] Woof! 15.3.0 update
https://github.com/fabiangreffrath/woof/releases/tag/woof_15.3.0

[11-02] South Park FPS re-release got a repack with a bunch of fixes.
https://archive.org/details/south-park-pc-repack

[11-01] Call of The Void updated to 2.0
https://www.moddb.com/mods/quake-ii-call-of-the-void/news/call-of-the-void-ver-20-halloween-update1

[10-28] EDGE-Classic v1.51 update
https://github.com/edge-classic/EDGE-classic/releases/latest

[10-28] Duke Nukem Zero Hour early PC port development
https://github.com/sonicdcer/DNZHRecomp/releases/tag/0.02

[10-25] HDoomguy released a Halloween wad called Hallows' Eve 199x.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/10LePm1bC-ixnvo1T-vQPZbUL8waLX4sW/view


=== PREVIOUS ===
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1-vrTgPGmlLwdO5VHHCJMxmRD05E6XlNmqHIN8aykRG0
TO SUBMIT NEWS, REPLY TO THIS POST (ideally with the [MM-DD] date bracket)

dixon myaz

>> QUAKE CHALLENGE <<
>>12168397 (OP)

Record a skill 2 max demo of LibreQuake map lq_e4m1 "Damnation Station".
Reply to this post with a demo & your time.

>Pack download
https://github.com/lavenderdotpet/LibreQuake/releases/tag/v0.09-beta

>Commands to record
vkquake +name anon +cl_nopext 1 +skill 2 +record e4m1_demo lq_e4m1
ironwail +name anon +skill 2 +record e4m1_demo lq_e4m1

>Example demo in 6:22
https://files.catbox.moe/srnr4s.zip

>Secrets cheatsheet
https://bpa.st/raw/SGNQ

Doom challenge winner: >>12167710 50 Monsters MAP18 in 3:27!

>>12168409
>trannyquake
no thanks

>>12168409
Faggots not allowed. trannies not allowed. queers not allowed. go back you shemale

>>12168409
Did you really think just posting a few Doom challenges after the last attempt to shill this would make it seem more organic?
You could learn to be more subtle from your fellow fags at FreeDoom.

>>12168416
>>12168429
> furry queers
> loonix fosstards
> "Anti NFT" whatever that means
> maskers
wtf is up with bringing faggot political shit into a retro game project. A game that already costs $5. do better

>SUB MORTEM : A Dead Simple Halloween Project
On the verge of done, only needs tiny tweaks.

>CURRENT BETA:
https://files.catbox.moe/ytur3g.zip

>iWAD: Doom 2
>Map Format: MBF21
>Number of levels: 12

Updates done:
>last update of Bereaved Battlement
>made the Yellow Skull switches in The Whine Cellar more obvious
>added level titlepics
>made episodic title pics (hopefully doesn't look too much like a ransom letter)
>Into King Boner's Manor Of Teleporting Goblin-y Spooks has the variant green sky like asked for

Bugs that need fixing:
>Yellow Skull Key fight in Caligary's Delight does not trigger anymore and softlocks you (haven't looked at why)
>Hell Knight that cockblocks the lift in Concussion sometimes does not teleport in, meaning you can't max kills

Do give input on level order, if you think it should be shifted or not. I sorta went by a mix of aesthetic themes and difficulty, putting the hard maps by the end. If you think your level should have another sky, chime in with that.

>>12168440
>Into King Boner's Manor Of Teleporting Goblin-y Spooks has the variant green sky like asked for
Thanky anon
>Number of Levels: 12
Damn. I mean, it is smaller levels, but that's still a surprisingly nice number of maps.

>>12168445
I think it's a good number for a humble 'expansion' like this.

>combarms: v1.4
>combharms: v1.1
>nash: gore
yep it's gaming time

>>12168397 (OP)
>SO YOU WANT TO PLAY SOME FUCKING DOOM
>(or Quake, Duke, Marathon, Deus Ex)
>https://imgur.com/a/wWS8zXz
Once again, updated link is: https://imgur.com/a/wB0psIa

> submortem
I just hope this comes out before December ffs

>>12168462
peter...

I didn't know GZDoom developer so based, holy shit

>>12168467
It's on the verge of being done, you fag.

>>12168467
It will be the nightmare before Christmas :)

It's wizard time motherfucker.

you can just ignore 90% of the earliest posts here i think, a lot of it is just bait to derail the thread

>>12168440
Still running through just to see all the exitpics. Graveyard Candy's was a little messed up.

>>12168491
You could probably also fit the full title for King Boner's Manor with the smaller font.

>>12168478
heh, sounds like right my alley then ;)

>>12168497
It already is in the smaller font, but the lead might want to play with the offset of it. The entering screen for it places the text very low.

>>12168501
It's missing the into

>>12168503
So it is. I'll fix that and the f on "of" being cut off in a little bit.

>>12168503
>>12168508

>>12168516
Good.

Best and worst Doom enemy?
>Best
Imp. I love these underrated guys so much. They're not difficult but a swarm of them with a big gin is always a lot of fun to deal with
>Worst
Pain Elemental. The "that guy" of Doom. My day is slightly ruined every time I see one of these unfun Lost Soul generators. They aren't even satisfying to kill, and yeah you can get in their face to shut down the Lost Soul stream but it's not always possible.

>>12168551
>Best
Zombies (Normal zombie, shotgunner and chaingunner)
>Worst
Archvile

>>12168409
I knew this would happen. Max in 5:37
https://files.catbox.moe/zso65a.dem

>>12168551
>pail elemental
do they not have melee attacks?

>>12168558
>>12168551
basically any cunt that can respawn enemies will always be the worst piece of shit of any game ever

>>12168625
No, had sprites for it but never got one, you can just get up in it's face and it can't do anything.

>>> CLASSIC HERETIC CHALLENGE <<<

Record an UV Max demo of UnBeliever E2M5 Caduceus Hall" by Ryath/scwiba
Reply to this post with a demo & your time.

Wad download and current records:
https://dsdarchive.com/wads/unbeliev?level=E2M5

Example demo in 3:16:
https://files.catbox.moe/54tbu4.lmp

Previous thread winner, 50 Monsters MAP18 in 3:27: >>12167710

No Doom challenge for this thread, it seems. For those unaware, you can record Heretic demos using chocolate-heretic, crispy-heretic, or dsda-doom. Surprisingly, I planned on making a Heretic challenge before anyone mentioned the Quake challenge, just to mix things up. Trying to screen-record a new program finally motivated me to try a new method for making images. Exporting a webm instead of a gif should result in higher quality/framerate with comparable filesize

>>12168397 (OP)
vanilla Doom > slaughter slop

>>12168627
Depends on enemies they respawn. If you have custom archvile that just spawns imps/pinkies then it's not so much of an issue when compared to normal archvile reviving doors with hit points combined with the LoS attack

I LOVE BUILD

>>12168734
>normal archvile reviving doors
what?

>>12168742
Barons of Hell

>>12168742
>doors with hit points

>>12168462
>Once again, updated link is:
https://files.xvertigox.com/vertigo-archival/so-you-want-to-play-some-Retro-FPS/
imgur is still banned in the UK so this has a better chance at appearing for UK users, though some users here reported issues even accessing that.
>>12168409
>>12168674
Two challenges?

>>12168734
>>12168742
Just for that I'm going to do me some mobs that are just door sprites that get up and wander about, getting in your way when "hostile".

>>12168751
Make sure their 'attacks' do no damage but they just push you around annoyingly

>>12168728
>Slop
Go back to /v/, child.

>>12168756
Yes, this is good, I was also thinking of a fast variant that just does unpredictable bursts of speed up into your face, to help catch any stray rockets you may have just fired.

>>12168674
I have never played Heretic, will it work in Nugget, and how hard is this level?

>>12168674
2:48 https://files.catbox.moe/vudaui.lmp
Apparently I conveniently lineskipped and floor didn't turn into lava

>>12168739
me too anon

>>12168748
Thanks I'll make sure to add that one as well next time I'm making a thread. been too busy with work and the family

>>12168751
>>12168756
>>12168763
lol great idea. Especially for a spooky halloween wad. maybe next year's wad will have such enemies

>>12168764
I believe this is the closest port to nugget that runs it
https://github.com/JNechaevsky/international-doom
or as anon said choco,crispy or dsda. Also I believe all these ports except dsda have this bug that the demo will desync if you enter the menu during recording.

Level is not hard if you figure out what to do.

>>12168795
Nah i take this back, inter can't play my demo. Use one of the other 3 ports.

>>12168794
On the topic of enemies that can resurrect, I had a fun idea for a small monster that has no collision that you could spawn swarms of, and resurrects 1 monster before disappearing. Give them extremely low health, too.

>>12168815
Hey I did that.
Though these are only spawned from the Archvile tier monster if you don't gib him.

>>12168817
Yeah, something like that.

>>12168815
>>12168817
can you make enemies like that seek out corpses instead of following the player? in DSDHacked?
Cool enemies btw Kegan

>>12168832
I've never tried, but wouldn't the friendly tag work?

>>12168837
Allegedly the friend logic is borked in MBF21. It's one of the fixes MBF2Y is poised to fix, if it ever happens.

>>12168878
Setting the speed to a negative value should work.

>>12168894
That will make enemies move away from the player, and it's a classic DeHacked trick, the cat in Aliens TC is actually the Yellow Key with negative speed set to it so that it runs away from the player, and you have to catch it.

>>12168906
You'd just need to flip the forward and back sprites.

I feel like I'm going crazy, but Nashgore NEXT feels inferior to Nashgore Vengeance.

>>12168748
>vertigo
Said hoster once put an open performance with demonstrative removal of sub mortem resources from their server, a complete turnaround after a purely voluntary act of help with the project. You may want to heed their following sentiment and not use the link:
>It's absolutely not worth participating or contributing to anymore.
https://desuarchive.org/vr/thread/12104192#12106546

>>12168921
>boner teleport
not again..

Is there a difference between the standalone Ashes 2063 and the PK3 version?

>>12169003
I was wondering who that was, how'd you figure it out?
He also made an internet archive link containing all the 'graphs: https://archive.org/details/so-you-want-to-play-some-retro-fps I don't think this is banned in the UK yet.

>>12169012
no difference. Standalone is for normies who can't into gzdoom modding

>>12169003
He must've been counteracting on peer pressure from some other place. I also bet he will be reading these posts in a meantime, that skittish dishonest clown.

>>12168409
>Librequake
What the fuck is with these threads nowadays validating faggots and trannies? What is wrong with you, genuinely? Where the fuck are the jannies?

>>12168305
Nugget has tracker support? I was trying to play Alizarin the other day and none of the tracker music worked. I had to convert them all to ogg and make my own patch.

>>12168606
Go fuck yourself for entertaining this you utter shit stain. You'd sooner do a challenge run for that than an actual Quake map, id1 or custom? I'd spit on you but you'd probably enjoy. Jesus fucking christ.

>>12169065
Autism.

>>12169068
It's not autism to support actual id1 or custom content for QUAKE the VIDEO GAME, than this faggot shit called Librequake. Go fuck yourself with a knife until you bleed out.

>>12169070
Autism.

>>12169072
Get the fuck off my screen. I genuinely hope harm comes upon you soon. You're a disgrace.

>>12169073
you need more dick in your life gay ass nigga. that anon is right. ynbaw

>>12169070
Can't have librequake without the lib(yard)

>>12169052
these faggots need to get the bullet istg who the fuck brings political bs into a game from 1996 lmao.

>>12169095
>>12169094
>>12169091
>>12169073
>>12169070
>>12169065
>>12169052
Gentlemen, please stop menstruating.

>>12169098
>Gentlemen
It's most likely one guy. Two at most. Thread stopping meltdown fueled by autism.

>>12169095
>>12169094
It's the fucking parasites that are people like >>12168606 who prop it up and make it seem like they're welcome here, and all of you other mother fuckers who are silent about it. Just lurking, letting them the fuck in. It's not welcome here. Let them take it to doomworld, to the fucking fringes of those Quake rainbow flag faggot places.

More than ANYTHING, a QUAKE challenge that isn't actually QUAKE?? That's what set me the fuck off, man. How about E1M5, demo and time? Or make it a real challenge, one of the E4 maps because those are mazes from hell.
>>12168409
You cannot imagine how much I detest you right now. Disgusting. Putrid.

>>12169098
another faggot joins the fray

>>12169107
Hey buddy, if you actually care about the threads, how about you cease your disruptive autistic chimpout and post some a Quake replay of your own?
But we all know you're gonna reply to my shitty post with more senseless vitriol.

>>12169102
librequake are faggots and that is an unpopular thing around here if you didn't get the memo you severe mental midget

>>12169110
Don't pretend I'm the one who brought it here. Otherwise, sure. Tell me what your favorite id1 map is that isn't from episodes 1 or 2. I'll hit back with mine after I know you're sincere.

>>12169121
Azure Agony.

>>12169121
Not him, but I like the Pain Maze.

>>12168815
IIRC there's ones like that in Supplice (the fish things) and Slooter.

man this is just getting funny

>>12169127
>>12169130
Funny, these are both of mine, with The Wind Tunnels and The Chambers of Torment running close behind.

There's wrong with episodes 1 and 2, but I wanted to exclude them because I feel like it's with episodes 3 and 4 where the team really understood what they could do. That makes sense of course, more time to have become familiar with the tools, with the monsters, with the rhythms of combat. But The Pain Maze and Azure Agony in particular are exemplary of a "playfulness" that Doom 2 evokes throughout its entire run. They are absolute torture to play in co-op, but otherwise very nice choices lads. Thanks for engaging me in good faith.

>>12169052
Imagine yourself inside the dilapidated shack: with last clutch smelly bums on the one side, and hippies engaging in all-out sodomy on the other. That's what this place is. Bums do not wish to blow the roofs off and risk their rainshelter in order to acknowledge the freak in the room, and everyone else normal tend to take quickly on their feet -- build their own haven from the ground-up, or enjoy the games in solitude.

>>12169151
>There's wrong with episodes 1 and 2
Shit I meant to say there's nothing wrong with episodes 1 and 2.
>>12169098
>>12169102
You have no fucking place here. Fuck off. You and your kind.
>>12169158
I'm not letting it go because of that challenge dipshit. I'll emphasize forever, a QUAKE challenge wasn't actually issued with QUAKE. It was instead issued with LIBREQUAKE, the faggot fucking free asset project. Not an id1 map challenge, not an id1 based content challenge. That's the last straw for me. They all deserve to know how unwelcome they are, their mental illness is a blight.

>>12169162
You're supposed to continue to post Quake shit and then better your posting habits. Not post once and resume your chimpout.

>>12169164
Get off your fucking high horse. Man insulted me, saying I'm menstruating. Another calls it autism, as if supporting all that they stand for isn't abject mental illness. I'm doing pest control. You're enabling.

You're welcome to engage my reply here >>12169151 with your own original thoughts on level design, Doom 2 as it compares to Quake, or anything else productive on your mind instead of presiding with your holier than thou horseshit.

>>12169176
Maybe you should just stop having your period?

>>12169176
I'm the one who called you autistic, because you are.
>I'm doing pest control
You're the one on a high horse, as if you're a brave crusader battling against the scary trannies. When in actuality we had one person post a librequake thing and now we have this little episode of yours.

Did you get bored of sperging for Mega Man 8 Bit Deathmatch?

>>12169179
You support abject mental illness. I hope if you have a child they never go through it. It's horrible. The worst thing that can happen to a kid. I'll do them a favor and only hope harm comes to you.

Playing doom 2 in rural only. The maps look amazing

>>12169181
Scary? No. Insulting? Absolutely. The QUAKE challenge isn't actually QUAKE. Notice you don't have anyfuckingthing to say about that, because you understand how monumentally retarded it is to have the QUAKE challenge feature Librequake.

I once again invite you to engage my reply here >>12169151 with your own original thoughts on level design, Doom 2 as it compares to Quake, or anything else productive on your mind instead of presiding with your holier than thou horseshit. We both know you don't want to do that. You just want to enable this bullshit, this tumor that's now made itself known. You don't give a fuck about Quake. Just tell me that and I'll stop engaging you, because then I know I'll never get through to you.

>>12169184
Claim: LibreQuake is "libre" and "anti-NFT."

Fact: troonmaxxed woke community lives on a proprietary Discord and potential contributors get banned with zero transparency. Performative brand > actual practice. It's an ideological training ground for their narcissism and hypocrisy. If they can't get the gender thing right, how can you expect them to ship something that isn't even at the level of Arcane or Sprawl96.

>>12169181
Also, all cards, don't know what the Mega Man 8 Bit Deathmatch thing is about. Isn't it just a deathmatch mod?

I do agree with the spaz. LibreQuake isn't Quake. It's pretty much the equivalent of a slav-jank, copy-cat. It's kind of rude to do that to the Quake fans.

>>12169204
Fucking thank you.
>>12169196
Ditto.

>>12169191
you right. nigga wants that tranny dick bc he can't get real pussy

>>12168397 (OP)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kFjoYGvfcmM

>>12168409
>In the room with the gold key you need to shoot 3 switches in sequence
This one's busting my balls.
Last time I really messed with this mod was when Revae was hosting some games with it and axed the shit out of me. Good times.

>>12169250
Scum. Fucking disgrace. I hope you get Alzheimer's early.

>>12169204
If Quake ""fans"" view it as an insult, then they deserve that insult for not repping. Choosing to shit up the thread instead of just doing a ""real"" Quake challenge? When the Heretic boys were able to do exactly that when they didn't wanna do a LibreQuake challenge? Sure, Quake ""fans"" indeed.

>>12169250
> another faggot spawns from the infinite rainbow.

>>12169257
>Choosing to shit up the thread
He CHOSE to use LIBREQUAKE instead of QUAKE as the challenge. I would hope the capitalized words would allow you to read clearly. I guess I wrongly assumed you were intelligent enough to have a conversation about this, let alone my wrongful assumption that you were capable of reading. Don't have children. While you're not having children, tell me you don't actually care about Quake so I'll stop engaging you. Because I know you don't actually care about Quake.

>>12168401
[11-10] OldUnreal released the final version of patch v469e for Unreal Tournament 1999
https://github.com/OldUnreal/UnrealTournamentPatches/releases/tag/v469e

Has some fixes for how moving brushes are treated in networked games, some updates to the renderers (and the ability to hotswap them), Borderless Windowed being added to the client on Windows, improvements to the Server Browser loading, and a shitton of additions to UnrealEditor and console commands that should make development of community content a lot easier.

>>12169257
stfu with the gaslighting you gook adjacent subhuman lmao