I'm gonna revisit FO3 for the first time since 2010
Anything I should know or any mods I should get?

>>3754872 (OP)
I played it vanilla a couple of years ago. It's all good fun. Go in blind for the best experience.

>>3754872 (OP)
Maybe some enhanced textures and meshes and the patches ofc. Vanilla Fallout 3 is a really good game and I'm tired of people pretending it's not.

>>3754882
Nobody is pretending, anon. We just have a different taste and that's okay.

>>3754872 (OP)
Wait for the remaster desu

>>3754872 (OP)
Re-played it recently myself. You can trivialize everything with the Chinese stealth armor and the unique ripper. Otherwise, the only weapons that scaled well to max level were the alien blasters, the unique DLC plasma pistol, and the unique plasma rifle from the android. Actually, you can trivialize the game simply by getting Dogmeat. Still, it's a fun game.

>>3754872 (OP)
disable broken steel until the end so the stupidly scaled enemies don't spawn. i also replayed it recently and liked how dark and nonstupid it is compared to light and silly 4.

>>3754872 (OP)
Fag tranny game

TTW + Wasteland Survival Guide will give you best game all time

>>3755066

>>3755059
>disable broken steel until the end
I'd suggest to keep it disabled entirely. The added questline is complete shit and there isn't much else to do after the game is over anyway.

>>3755059
I was shocked i got attacked by enclave soldiers before you even encounter them in the main quest.

>>3754872 (OP)
How's your playthrough, OP?

>>3754905
Your "taste" is pretension whether you realize it or not. You think it's "cool" to be niche. Not liking Fallout 3 is like not liking Van Gogh. You're being a contrarian faggot and we all know it.

>>3757546
It's sad you will never understand how ironic your post is.

>>3757555
>no u

I accept your concession, hipster.

>>3754872 (OP)
>I'm gonna revisit FO3 for the first time since 2010
Same. I never finished it back in the day, nor NV, always got bored and dropped both games. Going in largely vanilla with only sparing mods. Uninstalled all the DLCs cause they look like overpowered shit and/or pointless bloat.
It's... okay

i'm playing fo3 with quest mods. it's fun in a kinda scrappy deviantart/newgrounds kind of way

>>3754872 (OP)
Just know if you do Operation Anchorage while You Gotta Shoot Em in the Head is active it'll complete the quest because you picked up the power armor at the end. Somehow, I keep making this mistake after 15 years of playing.

>>3755059
Ignore this guy and do Vault 87 at level 30 when it's full of super mutant overlords for the most lore accurate experience
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dn3UDyLf9-A
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DAi0kJuXKhA

>>3754872 (OP)
unironically the worst game I have ever played, and I'm almost 40 and have been playing games since I was a kid

>>3760008
>FO3 haters are dying from old age

>>3754951
I'd rush to point lookout to get one of those rifles that uses 10mm ammo but does 30+ damage and just destroy everything with cheap, abundant ammo then on.

Mods are overrated trash that always look out of place. At most get the one ui mod that displays more information by shrinking the font like chat options and pip boy.
Tribeam laser is my favorite gun, and all of the dlcs are pretty bad besides like the pitt and maybe point lookout

>>3761828
>get the one ui mod that displays more information by shrinking your balls
It'd look too out of place so no. I recommend not to install that mod. instead install God tier mods like killable children, Mothership Zeta Crew, Quo Vagis, WWM, Craterside Enterprises, Claim the Wasteland, TTW, CAM, both immersive rape mods, the best crucifixion mod, submarine mods, Robco Certified, slaver mods, bounty hunter mods, fetch quest mods, lightsaber mods, vertibird mods and other based shit of that nature

>>3759517
Update: I’ve been playing it on and off and trying to give it another chance, but not really into it and thinking about dropping it. I got to Meresti Station and got negative karma for killing the stupid vampires after my only dialogue options were “make the town give them bloodpacks”. Dropped. Imagine if Morrowind did that.

>>3757546
>Fallout 3 is Van Gogh
fucking hell you people are retarded, it's literally the worst Fallout game and you're blinded by childhood nostalgia for it because it was the first RPG you ever played and you got it for Christmas for Xbox 360. It was overrated then by children and people with no fucking taste and it's overrated now by those very same people.

>>3765778
>people with no fucking taste
Pretentious losers talk of taste in vidya

>>3754882
I'm tired of animals being allowed to post on the internet

>>3765895
Where were you when Eternal September began?

>>3765824
It's the worst Fallout game. It has shallow role-playing mechanics, awful writing, and unforgivable lore inconsistencies. It stripped out the reactive systems of the previous games in favor of a linear, morally simplistic story that appealed to the cawadoody/halo kiddy crowd.. The world design lacks the complex faction dynamics and any meaningful choices that fundamentally define Fallout. The move to FPS was a failure. It has the clunkiest shooter mechanics of its era even among shovelware. Many perks are underwhelming or meaningless and skill checks in quests are minimal or nonexistent. The open world fucking sucks due to its empty and repetitive environments and scarce meaningful content, not to mention how lacking in sensible design the entire thing is. Almost every character in the game is one-dimensional and lacking in the depth of characterization and story that NPCs in the previous games had. All this on top of the deluge of classic Bugthesda dogshit programming.

It stood out solely because it was capitalizing on an older IP, wasn't fantasy slop like everything else at the time (see: Dragon Age, Two Worlds, Divinity II, Witcher), and as mentioned before appealed to the kid/teenager shootyslop crowd. The late 2000s were the death throes of RPGs and Fallout 3 is the scene shitting itself to death.

>>3765909
Great another hyperbolic rant

>>3765930
I accept your concession

>>3765938
I didn't read your post, but go ahead

>>3765943
I don't expect literacy from someone who regards Fallout 3 as the Van Gogh of RPGs

>>3765949
Good one, but that was a different anon

I dont like van goigh or fallout 3 I prefer clean sharp edges, except for charcoal

>>3765909
>It's the worst Fallout game
4 exists.

>>3769370
76 exists

>>3769774
Fallout: BoS exists

>>3769777
>>3769774
>>3769370
4 and 76 are both better looter shooters with better exploration and level design than Fallout 3. BoS is a better action game than Fallout 3.

I challenge you to name a single thing that Fallout 3 does better than any other game in the series it is a part of. Not a single element that makes up Fallout 3 rises above mediocre.

And no, Fallout 3 being less gutted in terms of RPG elements does not make it a better game than 4 or 76, because Fallout 3 is still an absolute piece of shit in terms of RPG elements when compared with actual roleplaying video games or even other action RPGs.
>well this tastes like piss instead of diarrhea so that means it's worth eating

>>3770190
3 got better guns. Unique weapons and not some random generated crap.

>>3770190
>single thing that Fallout 3 does better
That kino tutorial. Still peak today.

>>3754872 (OP)
Don't head straight for the main quest, explore the overworld at your leisure. The game respects your freedom, and you find sidequests in the wastes.

>>3754872 (OP)
Get Tales of Two Wastelands it combings both Fallout 3 and New Vegas
Playing as both of them, rebalanced and all around the perfect experience

>>3765930
>>3765943
>>3765958
Anon's right, though. Fallout 3 is a shit game. The only thing it does right is the same thing every Bethesda game does right; exploration.

>>3765778
>Nooo, what do you mean you have to actually play the game!!!
>I want the game to play it for me!!! Make my character for me!
>Yaaaas, a courier! Okay! Chaotic good cowboy? Okay!!!! No other options? Kinooo!
Meanwhile, in 3, you can roleplay whatever you want to be. Merc? The options are there. Morally good boring person? The option is there. Evil PoS? Many options are there.

>>3773596
Nice try Roy

>>3754872 (OP)
Wanderer edition mod
Really awesome, makes it so bullets are actually hard to come by and you need fuel for a motorbike to fast travel

>>3774185
>you need fuel for a motorbike
Hey could be coo-
>to fast travel
Oh

>>3754878
What is it like being illiterate?

>>3755066
NV thread is thataway senpai

>>3754872 (OP)
>Anything I should know
The base game's quests are dogshit. The only good DLCs are The Pitt and Point Lookout. Broken Steel is okay outside of the Enclave shooting gallery. Mothership Zeta makes the base game look like VtM Bloodlines. Operation Anchorage is slightly better than Zeta.

>>3754872 (OP)
The last Fallout RPG before Obsidian turned the series into full FPS with New Vegas

>>3754872 (OP)
Dump all combat special and max all mental special because the combat is a joke and the game fails to properly punish players for lacking combat-related special. The downsides of low strength are irrelevant if you aren’t using melee weapons and companions can carry gear that you can’t carry. You get a player home extremely early to store items you want to keep anyway. Endurance is irrelevant because every single enemy in the entire game is weak to headshots and every ranged weapon is so powerful with skill investment that they’ll rarely get close enough to you for low health to matter, plus the way that DR works means that with good enough armor you will prevent so much damage to begin with that having high health isn’t even necessary for tanking hits. Heavy weapons are uncommon through most of the early and mid game and their ammo is very rare + expensive so starting the game with high heavy weapons skill isn’t very helpful. The only thing that agility affects is AP which is functionally useless in Fo3 and can be offset by using jet if you really have trouble aiming and need VATs to hand hold you for longer periods for some reason. (Chem addictions can be infinitely cured at any doctor so no reason not to use chems). The only reasons to have high agility is if you’re doing a stealth character or using small guns instead of energy weapons, otherwise keep it low. Intelligence is the most broken stat in the game so set it to 9 and take advantage of bobbleheads to set it to 10. If you’re using speech then crank charisma for easier checks and higher speech skill, otherwise dump it if you aren’t. Perception is okay, it increasing the range where enemies show up on your compass. Not the end of the world if it isn’t high but a neat bonus if it is. Useful for energy weapon builds due to the skill increase. Luck is entirely up to you, either keep it average if you prefer to use your points in other special or crank it high if you have spare.

>>3776181
This is the problem with minmaxers, no consideration towards how pleasant the game will be to play.

You can "make do" with low carry weight. Except it means more inventory management, and who wants to do more of that.
I also wouldn't play fo3 without vats, so enough AP points just makes the gameplay more hassle-free too.

I set it to very hard (bonus experience), didn't use vats, but used the point lookout double barrel shotgun and lever-action rifle (~40 damage with 10mm rounds). Made the game more challenging and fun. Always rushed to operation anchorage, though. Not necessarily for the loot, but it's a great way to gain some early levels as quality weapons and armor are provided.

>>3776492
Then just mod in larger carry weight

>>3776492
How much stuff are you lugging around on an average basis? A vast majority of items in Fo3 are actual literal junk that has no purpose outside of a few handful of junk items that have good enough weight to value ratio to justify hoarding for the purpose of selling. Chems are weightless, ammo is weightless, higher tiers of armor don’t drop frequently enough for there to be a situation where you’d be lugging around five of them at a time, and most sets of weapons you pick up will inevitably be used to repair your existing weapons so their weight isn’t relevant. There’s no situation that would ever justify having high initial investment in strength outside of melee focused characters. If you really, really need extra carry weight then consume alcohol and offset the intelligence drain with mentats or pop buffout or both.

>>3776492
Even with high AP, the way that V.A.T.S. is designed in Fo3 is so flawed that it’s impossible for a player to do a character that only uses V.A.T.S. while ignoring real time. Eventually you will be forced into real time even with high agility. It’s a pretty worthless investment outside of stealth characters. A player with the basic manual dexterity to line up head shots will have no use for its investment early on.

>>3776598
>only uses V.A.T.S
It doesn't need to be only vats, just cut down the "downtime".

One can play with stats at 1 and a barbwired dildo up their ass, but I want the game to be as good as possible to play, and sometimes that means unoptimal builds, but only on paper. In practice it's more fun and efficient to play.

>>3774288
how was it being raped in your ass all your life?
Go back to eating shit.

>>3774465
Look a retarded faggot.
kill yourself and make the world a better place.

>>3776699
If you need insanely high AP in order to enjoy combat that is fundamentally easy then you simply aren’t very good at the game. Some of the best weapons in the game like sniper rifles and chinese assault rifles are hampered by V.A.T.S. usage to begin with.

>>3776793
>you simply aren’t very good at the game
Nah. I play FPS games, and when I play fo3 I like using VATS, and make the most of it. It also gives a critical chance bonus, if you need further reason to use it.

>>3776806
This is my point exactly, you aren’t actually good at the game so you need to artificially inflate your crit chance and have the game literally aim for you else it “isn’t fun”. Lol. Lmao.
>I play fps games
Bull. Shit. If you had any experience with FPS then you would be able to line up consistent headshots without having to rely on a system that literally lines up your shots for you.

>>3776817
>you would be able to line up consistent headshots
What makes you think I can't?

>>3776517
I did OP Anchorage first as I was already working for the Outcasts to deliver them technology. You can actually develop a decent relationship with them before the Brotherhood proper.

>>3770315
is it weird that 3's intro feels shorter than 4's to me? i think it's because 4 is mostly waiting.
>wait for salesman
>wait for shaun to cry
>wait while news plays
>quick run
>wait to get in vaut
>slow walk through vault
>wait to unfreeze
>wait to leave vault
in 3 you're doing stuff the whole time. the only waiting is at the birthday party but there's plenty of NPCs to talk to. i found out if you're rude to the old lady she hints that you aren't from the vault. you can skip the goat just by asking mr. brotch to. in 4 if you just coc SanctuaryExt and ShowSpecialMenu, nothing of value is lost

>>3776891
I'm guessing you've played fo4 more

>>3754872 (OP)
Never played it because it has no achievements on steam.

>>3777260
6/10 bait

>>3777244
steam hours are higher but that's just because of 4's loading screens, and for a while running 3 in compatibility mode stopped hours from counting

>>3774465
Areyou using vtmb as a negative

>>3776817
How much autism and underage b& are you that you are this obsessed with being 'good' at an rpg?

>>3777403
>steam hours are higher but that's just because of 4's loading screens
Lol

>>3777608
>muh being good at game don’t matter
Ironically, this is an argumentation tactic of 5 year olds who lose games. You’re making the argument of a loser. If a person’s ability to successfully complete a game and be thorough in exploring its mechanics is unimportant then how will you ever know how good the game is? If you’re unwilling to give an rpg its fair shot then why even bother? What a dumbass. If you’re going to spend enough time with rpg’s to the point where you’re engaging with strangers anonymously on a message board about rpg’s then what the hell have you been doing with your time in these games if you suck at them? Do you just run into walls and wipe on bosses and then turn the game off? If you can’t even succeed at your hobbies then you might as well consider suicide.

>>3754872 (OP)
>any mods I should get?
I'd recommend playing it through the TTW for QoL features of New Vegas, and add
- most common stability patches and DXVK;
- Tammer's nif-bashed weapons and armor packs, with TTW vendor plugins;
- Busworld V3 TTW and Metro Carriage Interiors TTW for little extra lore friendly exploration (TTW Interiors adds too much new content IMO but see for yourself)
- Enhanced Camera for seeing your body in first person.
All those, except Tammer's packs, are avaliable for original F3, not requiring TTW.

>>3779180
Lol brainlet

>>3779180
NTA but I’ll take the bait: RPGs are the easiest genre of game because success is determined by your character’s abilities and skills, rather than your skills as a player. That is why bragging about being “good” at beating “hard” RPGs is nonsensical. They’re not difficult games.

>>3779180
>thorough in exploring its mechanics
An argument for using VATS?

>>3779519
This is just more cope because every rpg requires some form of player skill regarding combat. These aren’t point and click adventure games. In the case of Fallout 3 you need some form of basic manual dexterity to shoot enemies. Is 3’s combat a very in depth system? No, it’s rather simple, which makes being bad at the game even more embarrassing because it’s not a very complicated thing.
>rpg’s are all le ez
Lmao. Keep telling yourself that and stick to your limited library of games.

>>3779546
And if you’ve used VATS you’d understand its limitations and that cranking agility is a waste of points.

>>3779557
>you need to be able to aim your mouse in a 30 degree radius and click.
Wow gaming god teach me your ways

>>3779614
You gotta backpedal, too. Kite them enemies.

>>3779621
Why, did you crank the artificial difficulty up and turn everything into bullet sponges to convince yourself that youre an epic gamer?

>>3779623
Because my 360 noscope headshots don't oneshot them, only cripples

>>3779614
Apparently you need them seeing how you can’t even manage to accomplish this. You’ve gone from:
>skill doesn’t matter, being good at a game does’t matter
To
>the mechanics are simple
If the game is so easy then why are you so dogshit at it? What an embarrassment. Did you figure out how to tie your shoelaces this morning or did you fail that too?

>>3779402
>TTW

I'm replaying F3 after like a decade
did they patch out the age slider from the character creator at some point or am I imagining things? because I clearly remember making an old wrinkly grandpa 19 year old character

>>3779729
Brainlet hasnt figured out there are two people replying to him lol

>>3754872 (OP)
Only mods I remember were absolutely necessary for me was an XP reduction mod. First time I played vanilla FO3 I was level 16 before I even found Dad. I couldn't imagine how shitty the game would be like that with the expansions level scaling at play.
>>3760008
You haven't played jack shit in your 40 years then.