Thread 3758707 - /vrpg/ [Archived: 1078 hours ago]

Anonymous
5/9/2025, 2:05:58 PM No.3758707
Nobuo_Uematsu
Nobuo_Uematsu
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Why did he relinquish his role as the official, sole composer of the Final Fantasy franchise -- in his prime -- to work in a bunch of literal-who games and personal projects?
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Anonymous
5/9/2025, 2:09:41 PM No.3758708
>>3758707 (OP)
Because he wanted to not work as hard and be able to choose what to work on, instead of being stuck working only on FF.
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Anonymous
5/9/2025, 2:13:03 PM No.3758709
>>3758708
Dumb decision. He became irrelevant immediately after, only ever remembered for his work up to FF9.
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Anonymous
5/9/2025, 2:45:12 PM No.3758716
>>3758709
>irrelevant
He doesn't care, he is already regarded as one of the absolute best videogame music composers in history and has enough money and rep to just chill for the rest of his life. now he clearly just does stuff he thinks is fun.

You sound like a burger, obsessed with making a name for themselves and never stopping.
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Anonymous
5/9/2025, 3:03:23 PM No.3758718
>>3758716
Third worlder/europoor (same thing) detected.
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Anonymous
5/9/2025, 3:32:50 PM No.3758730
>>3758707 (OP)

Many artists left when Sakaguchi did. They believed and shared his creative vision. Self contained worlds and stories gave artists creative freedom, every single artist want that and there are quite a lot that value that more than they do money or fame.

There is a big difference between that and a corpo vision that revolves around exploiting past success by making sequels, remakes or copying popular trends from other games.

SE has been irrelevant for the past twenty something years at this point. They´ve just been living off their previous glory but they are certainly not the company they once were. It´s a curse many game companies share and ultimately what happens when suits and share holders make the calls.

You ask me, Uematsu did the right thing. At least he is free.
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Anonymous
5/9/2025, 4:06:07 PM No.3758740
>>3758718
No, just someone that doesn't have the mental maturity of a brainwashed 12 year old.
Now go back to flipping burgers or sitting in your cubicle dreaming about how famous you will be one day.
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Anonymous
5/9/2025, 4:17:03 PM No.3758744
>>3758740
>massive projection
So, besides living in a shithole and flipping burgers, what else do you do?
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Anonymous
5/9/2025, 7:30:14 PM No.3758830
>>3758744
NTA but you sound like a massive 18-21 year old faggot who understands nothing. Just keep lashing out at things you don't personally understand.
Anonymous
5/9/2025, 8:39:30 PM No.3758844
>>3758709
we hear his music every time we start project M (unless you're playing the wutang version with Raymk2 and shite ). The baseball map is awesome
Anonymous
5/9/2025, 11:03:23 PM No.3758904
>>3758709
>irrelevant
why do zoomers care about "relevancy" so much? is it part of social media validation addiction?
besides, aren't you talking about him right now?
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Anonymous
5/10/2025, 1:20:40 AM No.3758972
>>3758707 (OP)
Probably now has Fuck-You Money. Doesn't need to care.
Anonymous
5/10/2025, 3:28:27 AM No.3759004
>>3758707 (OP)
After Sakaguchi got shitcanned, Uematus decided he would rather focus on his personal band.
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Anonymous
5/12/2025, 12:54:00 PM No.3760495
>>3758709
To Zanarkand is his most popular composition.
Anonymous
5/15/2025, 2:07:26 PM No.3762351
>>3758707 (OP)
Probably because he’d done it for 20 years and wanted a change of pace?
He trained plenty of other artists in the company, and Souken has carried his torch very well in XIV, even if he did that one dawntrail gospel meme song…
Anonymous
5/15/2025, 2:50:14 PM No.3762370
>>3758707 (OP)
He doesn't get royalties for any of his SE music.
Anonymous
5/15/2025, 2:59:04 PM No.3762376
>>3758904
>is it part of social media validation addiction?
Precisely so. They're all warped attention craving narcissists due to the prevalence of and access to social media from a young age. They never get the chance to grow out of the attention seeking behavior.
Anonymous
5/15/2025, 3:54:42 PM No.3762398
>>3758709
You obviously cannot conceive that a person can make it and then just bow out gracefully.
Anonymous
5/15/2025, 11:41:10 PM No.3762593
>>3758707 (OP)
Because he realized he musically peaked at FF8 and could only keep borrowing the same melodies from his other games for so long.
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Anonymous
5/16/2025, 12:00:49 AM No.3762606
>>3762593
Why would that make him quit? Plenty of people just keep doing what they have been doing in their careers.
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Anonymous
5/16/2025, 12:17:13 AM No.3762619
>>3762606
Not everyone wants to be Sakuraba and coast for decades on churning out mediocrity. That said, anyone here that has not checked out Lost Odyssey's OST needs to fix that. It easily matches the heights of Uematsu's mid-to-late-90s work on FF.
Anonymous
5/22/2025, 8:40:28 AM No.3766321
>>3758718
>criticize americans
>not-american detected!
No shit
Anonymous
5/24/2025, 2:51:09 PM No.3767697
>>3758707 (OP)
Because he's not a greedy American slop-eating pig?

What's it like being a resentful faggot your entire life incapable of ever experiencing joy?
Anonymous
5/25/2025, 3:58:10 AM No.3768037
Because the then CEO moved the HQ after a fortune teller told him it was on cursed ground (srs) and the new location was too far
Anonymous
5/29/2025, 8:12:09 PM No.3771092
>>3758707 (OP)
He was making nearly one track per day every day for years on end. Not all of the tracks he made were good enough to make it into the final product. We only get to see the tracks that got approved for final release, not all of the other work he did that he was toiling on. He said in interviews that by 9 he was running out of ideas. As much praise as the JRPG cult fandom likes to heap on him, some people are just not cut out to make stuff day after day for years on end like Sonoda or Asano.

>>3758707 (OP)
>o work in a bunch of literal-who games
Granblue Fantasy is not a literal who game. It kickstarted the gacha genre and was humongous in Japan.
Anonymous
5/30/2025, 10:54:01 PM No.3771894
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1726671561568476
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>>3758707 (OP)
Staying at SE turns you into an overworked skeletal.
Just look at Mizuta and Soken.
Nobuo made the right choice.
Anonymous
5/31/2025, 2:20:45 AM No.3771976
>>3758707 (OP)
After the Square-Enix merger, the old Squaresoft offices were sold and the company moved to the other side of Tokyo. His new commute would be like an hour, hour and half and he didn't want to ride the subway everyday so he retired early.
Anonymous
5/31/2025, 6:42:55 AM No.3772047
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=8DmsfYt_-hU

Damn I love the besaid theme. I'm replaying ffx right now I forgot how good this game was it's been 20+ years since I played it
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Anonymous
5/31/2025, 6:51:45 AM No.3772048
>>3759004
Square firing sakaguchi over a failed movie is so fucking retarded. It's like firing a master carpenter because they can't cook. They're paying for it now because Final Fantasy has been on terminal decline since 10. The people currently in charge of the series have no idea what they're doing
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Anonymous
5/31/2025, 7:21:54 AM No.3772065
made his money and quit while he's ahead. every creative person wants to reach a point where they just do whatever the fuck they want. FF games back in the 90s had some short dev cycles, so he was probably overworked.
Anonymous
5/31/2025, 7:43:30 AM No.3772072
>>3758707 (OP)
Why he should?
Square Enix is a hollow husk controlled by soulless corporate drones and investors. He's an artist at heart and would be absolutely miserable with some faggot in a suit yelling into his ear, "YOU MUST REFERENCE DANCING MAD AND ONE-WINGED ANGEL EVERYWHERE!" Absolutely no money is worth staying in a job you'll hate and that will eat away at your love for creating stuff.
Also, between what he got through years of working in SE and his side projects, I'm pretty sure he's not complaining about a lack of money.
Anonymous
5/31/2025, 5:15:03 PM No.3772260
>>3758709
He was already more relevant than most composers in industry could dream to be. He did it and was done.
Anonymous
5/31/2025, 5:18:37 PM No.3772261
>>3772048
>Square firing sakaguchi over a failed movie is so fucking retarded. It's like firing a master carpenter because they can't cook.

No it's like firing your carpenter because he went massively over budget and under performed so badly the company nearly collapsed in on itself despite having more money than they knew what to do with. If not for that god awful movie they might have still been able to keep up their absolutely psychotic amount of productivity they had during the PS1 era. They had almost fifty games on that one console alone and come PS2 they went down to less than 10 unique ones.
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Anonymous
5/31/2025, 5:55:35 PM No.3772280
>>3772261
Spirits within was a big flop but it's still stupid to kill the goose who laid the golden egg for you just because one of the eggs was rotten. Final Fantasy has been so shitty since he left.
Why did they dump so much money in a cgi movie that it nearly bankrupted the company despite all the successful games? What where they thinking? Why did they want to even make a movie they're a game developer?
Square Enix sucks eggs.
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Anonymous
5/31/2025, 7:23:48 PM No.3772341
>>3758707 (OP)

Plenty of reasons for artists to act like that. From the top of my head i would say an artist may favor creative freedom or working with specific people over money, specially someone already famous and accomplished in his field.

SE needed him more than he needed SE and it shows. He made the right call.
Anonymous
6/2/2025, 4:37:23 AM No.3773623
>>3758730
Here you go. This is the answer.

>>3759004
Safe to assume that Square was an anomaly from 1986 to 2001. It’s a miracle this happened in the first place and for 14 years.
Anonymous
6/2/2025, 4:39:31 AM No.3773626
>>3772280
Yeah they threw it all on him. Losers.
Anonymous
6/2/2025, 10:39:24 PM No.3774210
>>3772047
One of the best vg soundtracks ever
Anonymous
6/2/2025, 10:57:35 PM No.3774215
>>3758709
>He became irrelevant immediately after
He functionally retired. Same with Mituda. These guys are in their 60s, they don't want to keep writing full scores when they can produce and train successors.
Anonymous
6/2/2025, 11:11:10 PM No.3774220
>>3772261
>company nearly collapsed in on itself
If they had waited a few days they'd have gotten FFX's sales figures and realized they were fine.
Anonymous
6/3/2025, 1:48:25 AM No.3774312
>>3772280
some anons over the years theorised it was possible sabotage to stop the company competing in film. the script and setting got meddled with too supposedly.
Anonymous
6/3/2025, 1:55:46 AM No.3774314
>>3759004
>Sakaguchi got shitcanned
>>3772048
>Square firing sakaguchi
>>3772261
>firing
>>3772280
>kill the goose who laid the golden egg for you
Didn't Sakaguchi resign, instead of being fired?
Anonymous
6/3/2025, 2:06:26 AM No.3774319
>>3758709
Get the fuck out - FFX has some of the best music of any FF

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PSjTN8WSGNk
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Anonymous
6/3/2025, 2:07:17 AM No.3774320
Here we go again.

There is a myth that Spirits Within nearly bankrupted Square. It did not. What happened was that Final Fantasy X was delayed to the next fiscal year. FFX raked in bonkers amounts of money. Had it released in the same fiscal year as Spirits Within, Square would have still had been fine on paper. FFX sold 2 million copies within the first week and made back well over the money spent on Spirits Within. There were corporate forces working to usurp Sakaguchi for control of Square and they were looking for an excuse. If it wasn't Spirits Within, it would have been something else. In this case, the excuse was that FFX was delayed to the next fiscal year, that on paper the company looked like it was in trouble, which allowed Yoichi Wada to kick out Sakaguchi and hijack the corporation, and actually run Square into the ground during the 2010s before he resigned. It was just corporate politicking.
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Anonymous
6/3/2025, 2:15:54 AM No.3774324
>>3774320
i wonder if they'll ever bounce back at this rate. seems like they're in worse trouble than during the merger now.
Anonymous
6/3/2025, 2:19:17 AM No.3774326
>>3774320
Or Sakaguchi was just eager to finally follow his true passion, hip hop
Anonymous
6/5/2025, 12:17:07 AM No.3775610
>>3758718
>europoor
Only Europeans use this term.
Anonymous
6/5/2025, 12:25:44 AM No.3775617
>>3774319
I just replayed ffx it's such a well paced and fun game. The sphere grid is ridiculously fun to just fuck around with. It's just to bad you have to spend a lot of time just kinda grinding at the end to really have fun with it. Story content won't get you that far past each characters personal spot on the grid.

I tried to play ffx-2 after but holy shit that game sucks. It's an insult to the original. I'd rather try out hundred line which I didn't plan to buy but decided to just give it a chance now since the physical copies are already getting hard to find. Every retailer is sold out except gamestop
Anonymous
6/11/2025, 2:50:31 AM No.3779986
>>3758707 (OP)
He is arguably one of the greatest vgm composers, easily top 5. Early square was notorious for overworking their staff. You can read horror stories about artists and composers, like mitsuda for example, working around the clock and developing stress related stomach ulcers. I’m guessing uematsu felt like he had made his mark and wanted to chill for a change. The work he did on Fantasian recently was pretty good. Uematsu, Sakaguchi and Amano are a legendary trio in my mind. We’ll probably never see another creative team come close to what they achieved in terms of pure vibes.