do you like da grindan game?
I made this thread because I want to complain about early game specialist/innocent collecting. One of the most tedious, boring parts of the game for me but it has to be done otherwise late game grindan will take over 4x as long. Even with a party setup that can get through most item world floors in one turn it's still really annoying. I know Disgaea 5 makes it a lot easier to get innocents since you can literally farm them and every game after D1 fixes the shitty item world generation that can softlock you, but I want to beat Baal on Disgaea 1 before moving on to the next games.
>>3763566Are you going for just normal/Prinny Baal or are you going to fight Etna mode Baal too?
>>3763595Just normal Baal and maybe Etna mode Baal if he's not much stronger. I don't think I have the patience for Prinny Baal seeing how he has almost triple the base stats. So far I just unlocked CoO-3, so the real grinding can begin.
>>3763566Didn't read, you made this thread to discuss your love for girls than cannot legally give consent. I will discuss the subject of your thread instead, get fucked.
I like grinding only if it's not necessary. If it's a reward for investing extra unneeded time into the game. I like the feeling of being in easy mode not because I chose the option in a menu but because I spent hours grinding.
And also if the grinding itself is fun or if you can easily do something else while doing it.
In Dragon's Dogma I used to be completely broken for where I was in the story because I had spent 100 hours running around killing goblins and wolves.
In WoW vanilla and classic I would play paladin and watch videos or post on forums at the same time. I would do the Deadmines at like level 23 just because I spent so long mining stuff and killing mobs while doing something else.
>>3763606Etna Baal is at the max level with geo panels boosting him. Still it and Prinny Baal aren't too bad if you nab the super robo suit from regular Baal and make a set of them at the max level.
>>3763628Sir this is a Disgaea thread, your post about Dragons Dogma and WoW is not the subject of this thread.
>>3763632>nab the super robo suit from regular Baal and make a set of them at the max levelI always figured that the point of fighting Baal was to get the robo suit (other than being the ultimate boss).
Should I also bother perfecting them with certain stats or is just getting them to item level 100 good enough?
>>3763636Level 100 with the same rarity should be more than enough, but if you find you have the innocents to slap on to boost it further, the go ahead. By the way, what characters are you using?
>>3763638Laharl with a sword and Flonne with a bunch of spells learned through mentoring are my two most powerful units.
Etna (axe), Pleinar, a ronin (spear), a ninja, and the mandatory strider for item world re-roll are my secondary units. I also have a fairly high-level thief that I've been using to steal testaments from the Prinny god in Prinny Land.
Once I get some more armsmasters I'll powerlevel the units I need to unlock majins, then I'll probably use a couple of divine majins for my main units, replacing Flonne and Laharl.
It's one thing I really don't like about Disgaea 1 compared to later games, majins are just a straight upgrade to almost every unit type in the game so it takes away the strategy of party composition. At least with Disgaea 2 there are evilties to make units unique and later games removed majins altogether.
>>3763646Honestly you can make do with these units with the robo suits and a rank 40 weapon. Laharl alone with a Yoshitsuna and the suits can make mincemeat out of every Baal.
>>3763566It's best to get to a highest rank items available before you start farming them since the base values will be higher with higher rank items, in my opinion. Savescum the first floor until they popup, capture, and Gency. Pretty quick. The people who go for several maxed Teachers and such are the real lovers of grinding in this series.
>>3763793Higher rank items have higher level enemies so you'll still have to level grind your characters a bit more to actually be able to kill them. Statisticians have a low cap in Disgaea 1 anyways so even with mid-rank items it shouldn't take more than a dozen item worlds to get a max statistician. But for regular innocents like gladiators, you are right, it is probably best to only farm rank 38/39/40 items for them for the most efficient gains.
>>3763877Character levels aren't as important as item levels, that's the efficient progression, leapfrogging through leveled weapons. You're right that 300 isn't that high, but I was thinking of the Armsmaster too, 1900 is still a good bit.
Worst SRPG franchise ever.
>>3763557 (OP)>item worldAnd I lose interest immediately
Grinding up items for little attached skills is so fucking annoying and obtuse of a system I never want to touch it at all
>>3764428You don't need to bother with specialists/innocents outside of a select few types to speed up post-game grinding, and you can just move those specialists around to other items. Higher tier items have higher level specialists too, so you can cut down on the grind by just waiting until you upgrade the shop or get to post-game stages with a thief.
Disgaea 5 lets you breed specialists in a farm so you don't even have to use the item world much to get high-level specialists in that game.
It's pretty much always less effort and time to just grind character levels until you're strong enough to progress, unless you hit character level + transmigration cap and want to go even further beyond.
also
>complaining about grinding in da grindan gamei shiggy diggy
I just dunno which version of the first game to get.
I have the digital PSP version, but that's just it...
...I also have Phantom Brave for Wii, PSP (Digitial), and Steam if that counts.
>>3764428You're not forced to do it at all to beat the main story.
>>3764428I was relieved to see that 7 nerfed the floor count of items to a maximum of 30.
So we all agree that 6 has no redeeming qualities whatsoever
but what about 7?
>>3764354unfortunately fire emblem exists
>>3764731PSP is just the best version
not much other versions add save for the soulless HD spites of complete
oh and the prinny commentary of DS, but DS is a complete downgrade otherwise
>>3765384So we clearly have diff opinions on what makes a good SRPG
Fortunately the series you mentioned is the progenitor
And instead nobody cares about "this gaia" which is a shitty, childish, tropey unfunny franchise
>>3765387ah... ...was considering grabbing the PC version on steam, but if you say the PSP ver. is the best then...
>>3765428The PC version is basically the PSP version but with some UI/graphics changes and you get Pleinair at the start.
There are supposedly some issues with the PC version when it comes to certain hardware/drivers but I haven't experienced any of that myself.
>>3765410Complaining about Disgaea being childish and tropey is like complaining about Shrek being childish and tropey.
Like, that's kind of the point. It's a parody of otaku media tropes like how Shrek parodied a lot of fairy tale movie tropes.
>>3764758Yeah, I don't care for how Disgaea handles the post-game so I usually just beat the game and mess around a bit until I get bored. Do that and it's a pretty normal SRPG. And each story is a solid chunk of time by itself, so it's not like you're not getting your money's worth by just doing the story.
>>3765433so that's good news... ...might as well wait for the big sale to grab it, then.
>>3765458That's why it's the worst SRPG ever. A series based on parody, muh references with no originality can't ever be the best.
>>3765458>Using Shrek as an analogy to Disgaea
>>3765530you're like me and my 4 versions of Disgaea 4 (PS3, Vita, Switch, and Steam).
>>3765381It has giant women, so it's good.
How do i bind my disgaea rpg save file again?
>>3765458though unlike Shrek Disgaea tends to love the stuff its parodying
>>3763557 (OP)I liked it up until the point every class besides the nuke everything on the screen class was rendered redundant. All those flashy animations and never to see them again,
>>3766904Yep. Vertical scaling type of progression kills any strategic potential in an srpg
>>3763566>I made this thread because I want to complainfiltered
fuck off zoom
>>3767933I'm anything but filtered though, I've put nearly 50 hours into the game in the past few weeks. Item world is just tedious though.
>>3767953Disgaea 1 has the worst item world in the series, so take heart in that they get steadily better from there.
It took until 5 for me to really start enjoying them, though.
>>3765622Super Robot Wars is fun tho
>>3767985SRW is shit just like Disgaea
SRPG where bigger numbers is the only key to winning everything is never gonna be a good SRPG
Only mechaguzzlers love em
Does passing stronger enemies bills give enemies better equipment, or do the items enemies have only dependent on the stage and item world they're in?
>>3763557 (OP)How does La Pucelle Tactics rank in comparison to the disgaea games? Some of the girls look pretty cute
>>3765622>He says when most srpg's ape from goyslop pansy tacticsKekaroo!
>>3768026>He thinks positioning ever mattered in japshit "Strategy" after square destroyed the genre
>>3770059Ironically, Square fixed it with Triangle Strategy, where positioning absolutely matters and you can't just grind yourself to being OP.
I know that "Kekaroo" anon from somewhere else
Greentexting with nothing to add to the discussion? What a faggot poser.
>>3770158He's the powkiddy spammer from /hhg/.
>>3770158>Only one person uses common website slangKwab, gbak2 plebbit even. U can tell this anon's anus is leaking delicious race juices while getting btfo
>>3770161>RthG.
>>3770168>Smells himself, stinks of so much shit, he kills everything in sightNgl, nigga would get backshotted until his hairy anus would the ultimated nut beyond nut point blank.
>doesnt realize the gif was about him
>>3770220Nah lil tardbro. Hairy fuckass stank shitholes need clean dick. The contrast of dirting your sword with the fuckboi anus getting piped gives a good blow everytime.
>>3770231go back to the ghetto nigga
>>3770234Wtf are you even talking about? You're the one with the gif of a stankass daddykin fuckass crunk looking lip smacking fuckboi. If you wouldn't backshot that, you're lying to fucking god.
>>3770237Back to the ghetto
>>3770247You you have any idea how dumb you sound?
>I'm the ghetto one for wanting to fuck a stank ass crunk lookin nigga>You're NOT the ghetto one for saving stank ass crubj lookin niggasLike I said, you're lowkey gay if those lips alone don't set you off
>>3770249>He doesn't realize he always stinks every thread he is in
>>3770254What the fuck are you even talking about?
>>3770254>stinky franchise gets a stinky thread with the stinkiest poster in /vrpg/
>>3770285You're thinking of the 1int orc.
>>3763557 (OP)Is there a item world equalivent to makai kingdom?
>>3770718Yes, they're called Free Dungeons, but they're so randomized (and I don't really like Makai Kingdom's point-based system for beating maps anyway) I didn't find them fun. But they're there.
So far I think Phantom Brave has my favorite style of random dungeons, but I admit to not playing every single NIS variant
Any tips for soul nomad and the world eaters? Been trying to get into it but no dice.
>>3765622>A series based on parody, muh references with no originality can't ever be the bestSo Neptunia then?
>>3771498for level/room grinding have only 1 dood in the room since the room splits XP earned with everyone in it. you can also use the hand items to steal shit from npcs in towns on different stages, and there are some room items/effects that boost XP gained and the stats of a character if they are the only one in a room, which is great for powerleveling. got my revya to 9999 in the post game
>>3772459poopdickschizo actually succeeded making this thread shit, Disgayea is just maximum poopenfarten in the first place
How exactly does XP growth work in Disgaea 7 since they nerfed the innocent system?
I just cant enjoy 3D disgaea, idk why
>>3774057Loses alot of its charm
>>3774057>>3774117I wish they go back to 2d sprites in D8
>>3774057whose idea was it to make a 3D disgaea
they literally exchanged the spites they were polishing for years for PS1 graphics at this point they shoud've went the ori/cuphead/shantae route and just go full 2D animation
>>3763557 (OP)Is this real? I played through Disgaea and Disgaea 2 and I never saw these
>>3775303It's been a part of the archer's character design since Disgaea 1.
I really like all the guest artists the disgaea games have for clear screens and the like. Soul nomad was really unique to me partially because harada wasn't the main artist like most of their other games (not to diss harada or anything his art is great too)
>>3763557 (OP)I do, but starting a new game (I wanted to try 1 and 2) after I've grinded 4 and 5 for hundreds of hours feels bad without all of the qol of later titles. I'm not too interested in the newer games since I still have the old ones to go through
>>3763557 (OP)No. And that is a problem for them to figure out. Disgaea needs to stop being so grindy. Grindyfags are not enough in number to keep the series alive. Either adapt or perish.
>>3763557 (OP)My god she is flat.
>>3776767That's the series's niche though. If they take away the grinding they'll just alienate their core audience and then the series will be truly dead.
>>3776843They could gain or restore faith to a new audience that wished the series wasnt grindy but liked a few of the core concepts and mechanics
>>3777857>just appeal to an imaginary audiencelmao, brilliant. you should because an exec.
>>3764578Is this something girls sometimes do to mog each other? Accidently turn and smack another chick with their tits because "Oops, they're too big Kek!"?
>>3777857It's not grindy if you just play the story. It's only in the post game that the grind happens.
Those hypothetical players could be playing Disgaea right now
>>3763557 (OP)These dumb stupid MotherFuckers. You young Zoomer Fucks! This game has no Fucking grind unless you want it to! Are you nuts or something? What the Fuck are you talking about you Cocksucker. You can literally just play the Fucking story mission after mission with ZERO grind. It is 100% optional you Asshole!
Go Fucking go Fucking jerk off to Star Trek discovery MotherFucker! Go play Stardew Valley Shitbird!
>>3777934yeah but like what if i want to beat baal to get the true ending how am i supposed to do that without grinding at least a little bit
>>3778120None of the Baal endings are story endings. Basically you are saying you want to grind and not play this Fucking game. You Zoomer Fucks never would have made it in the days of UO or Everquest. You're Fucking lucky goes are sanitized for you. What do you want to be able to Fucking skip gameplay all together and just watch story? Go Fucking play visual novels!
>Basically you are saying you want to grind and not play this Fucking game.
>What do you want to be able to Fucking skip gameplay all together and just watch story? Go Fucking play visual novels!
This makes absolutely no sense since grinding is playing the game. Anyone willing to grind and beat the postgame content is much more of a gamer than people who just play through the main story then never touch the game again. One of the main appeals of Disgaea games is the post-game content, telling people not to play the post-game is like telling someone to take a vacation to Thailand but not fuck ladyboys.
>>3763557 (OP)Bros delete this pic I canโt go a single day without gooning to it
can D3 get an enhanced port already? I want to replay it but don't want to deal with random vita emulator crashes.
>>3778441might not ever happen since Mao's voice actor got a bunch of accusations regarding sexual harassment stuff and D3 is one of the less popular disgaea games in general
>>3778386delete it yourself
>>3778482Fucking delete this! You can't post such a thing!
>>3778482archer-chan is so pretty...
>>3777860>>3776843Considering they are constantly almost about to close. The core audience is not enough. If they continue like that, this "core audience" is going to result in them going bankrupt.
>>3778848Is that really so bad? You win some you lose some after all. Kemco's sonehow still alive and I'm not sure who tf their audience is supposed to be.
>>3778860Kemco games have non existent budget nor marketing, just like most mobile games, lol
3D fucking killed the series because NIS can't optimize for shit and all their pixel artists end up on the gacha game, which globally went under like a year ago because boltrend sucks
>>3780086The weird part is that they should have a tremendous amount of 2D assets that can be endlessly recycled thanks to the gacha game, unless those can't be used due to whatever legal reasons?
I just hope NIS keeps making Labyrinth games
>hadn't played much since starting last year
>do some very light item world diving in 5 across spare time over 3 days on a felynn and succubus for the hell of it
>thumb kinda aches going to bed
>thumb still kinda aches waking up
man I gotta play one handed
Disgasa and Neptunia lose to Alphen
>>3780350wtf is an alphen
>>3780263relatable
we had no idea how good we had it when we were younger
>>3780362Alphen Imeris from Tales of Arise
>>3780377he does look strong and not afraid of anything
>>3775339headcanon all the stuff that she used to grow only made her drills grow
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I decided to play 6 and 7 after a complete Fire Emblem marathon
you don't actually have to play 6 so I went through it quickly
but then I got to 7 and decided to get distracted into playing 4 again (never managed to defeat Baal) and now I'm hooked again
Desco will always be best loli
>but every sentence she praises worst girl
no one's perfect and if pleasing sister-in-law will get me a Desco then I'll conquer the world for her myself
>>37811354 is kino. the story is so fun and all the characters are a good time. dead print girl is underrated! 5 i just wasnโt into at all and I donโt know why. I have to give it a second chance. I liked 6 but I basically auto battled through the entire thing like a afk mobile game, so I never ended up picking up 7. I think I might be a closet visual novel fag. I played the shit out of this series, but refuse to play actual visual novels even the disgaea infinite one.
>>3781149From what I played 7 fixed a lot of the problems D6 has
Auto-battle was completely nerfed (needs to use energy to use it and can only use it in already completed maps) but still incredibly broken
the 3D is not as garbage (still don't like it)
it has the largest roster of generics since D3
characters are basically the story of an annoying rich weeb and Mugen from Samurai Champloo dunno how to feel about it
still haven't fished the main game or got to the post game yet
>>3775285(Psst, anon, Ori uses 3D models for the characters)
Truth is, the original reason was that hardware and 3D skills at the time didn't allow for things to be "fully expressive" which is a signature aspect of Harada's character designs. A second reason is that it is a fuckton easier to animate a 3D character than a 2D one, especially for a game like this where there are a large amount of weapon skills.
>>3781287slow clunky 3D is easier to animate at least
>>3781153I hate that 7 ruined the Item World essentially.
>>37813965 did that imo by making it considerably easierโI loved delving too deep and trying to survive against much stronger enemies, except now they all have nerfed HP and you have plenty of checkpoints. Unlimited inventory space also means you don't run into situations where, say, you're out of consumables and have to seriously call the Defender of Earth because that phone item is all you all left. I get that I probably wasn't using the Item World as intended, but still.
>>3781507Yeah but I mean with 5 there was still a point to the item world. With 7 there is literally no reason at all to go to it.
>>3780196>I just hope NIS keeps making Labyrinth gamessame.
>>3782913s-surely it'll happen
>>3782913>>3782922I mean, main writer for Labyrinth games left NIS like year ago.
They can make new games, but they might not be same. But hopefully I'm wrong.
Also
>Tatsuya Izumi also alludes to having established a new company called โ26Works.โVery subtle, Izumi
>>3782940I don't get it. Your picrel is probably the worst writing in any NIS game. I don't like to use the word, but it's too edgy.
>>3782913I'll make a spiritual sequel. After I learn how to draw, how to program, how to write music, and how to write. Wait for 10-15 years. It will be yet another niche solodev JRPG not made by a Japanese.
>>3782940i know, that was over a year ago and he hasn't done anything. such a shame.
>>3781287>it is a fuckton easier to animate a 3D character than a 2D one,It is easier to bankrupt your company too. One of the dumbest decision from a company that already has a sizable core audience, and has attracted new ones from Disgaea 5 and Labyrinth.
And itโs Japan, there must be enough veterans and cheap bright-eyed young animators to animate the sprites. Certainly more than affordable 3D experts it seems, as shown by Disgaea 6 and 7. You can always outsource the bulk of work to Korea, SEA, and China.
>>3763557 (OP)I ought 5 on sale like a year ago and have yet to even boot it up
>>3783161THAT'S SUPER NEGLIGENT
>>3783317both
I appreciate beauty in all its forms
>>3783317demoflat sandwich
>>3783317The map interface is so awful. I think they half-assed ZHP mechanics.
>>3784942what a great design
>>3763557 (OP)Majestic flat like this makes me proud of being alive.
>>3783317i'm feeling rebooblican today
>>3783618>both>I appreciate beauty in all its formsThis guy gets it
Has anybody tried to make a disgaea like game?
>>3789140I love this animation
>>3790157No idea how I'd make one
>>3790157I will. Learning how to draw, how to program, how to write, and how to write music now.
>>3790519Any idea of what you aiming for?
>>3790157Disgaea is just too randumb to be emulated
Just like SMT / Persona, dumb shit mashed up together generates unnecessary complexity that is hard to emulate
>>3790702Just put in 9999 level caps, Anime/Toku references, and 1000 year old demon lolis and BAM you got a disgaea clone
>>3790978I thought Disgaea fans are these type of tryhard autists, but weirdly they never made such game
>>3791328There is difference between being autistic for playing a game and being autistic for making a game. Its never always both.
>>3791432I'm sure there is some kind of overlap.
Exhibit A: Pokemon, FE fans
>>3791465Disgaea fanbase just doesn't have the numbers as those two franchises
They can barely keep a 4chan thread running
>>3790157>>3790519Imo, making a robust system on top of designing and animating all the classes, make this near impossible to do for solo and indie devs. And indie tactical RPG tend not to sell very well.
>>3791547If moddable then which Disgaea game would be the most modded?
What's the FE8/Gen III of Disgaea?
>>3783317Tend toean Rebooblican, but it varies by what I currently have in my mouth.
>>3792029>>3792031Ew. Sodomy is gross.
Disgaea 3 and Disgaea D2 PC ports never.
>>3795684sad
that said, Disgaea PC ports so far have been less than great and emulation is flawless for those two games, so maybe we don't need them ported
>>3795684Those 2 are arguably the worst disgaea games.
Is there someone on youtube that has a couple hours of gameplay of this shit that makes it look fun? I'm a relatively big autist but every time I've tried them I couldn't really find a sperg handhold to make me want to invest in so much crap.
>>3763557 (OP)i've played and beaten 1, 2, 5. played 3 and 4 and 6 but never beat them. 6 i barely played an hour because it sucks so bad.
i love the art, music, and early game but the games always end up having a rushed ending and late-game fights are pretty much just one-shot fests. there's little to no strategy after about the mid-way point, just use your biggest and baddest move and one-shot half the map. i still like it because i have the number go up autism, but i do wish there was a bit more back and forth to combat rather than one side completely blowing out the asshole of the other every fight.
>>3796250The thing is I never see SRPG franchises bar Fire Emblem having a youtuber consistently pump out content
Personally maybe because Disgaea is too much of a joke of a franchise so nobody gave it any serious consideration
>>3796250I liked HCBailly's let's play of Disgaea 1, it's what really got me into the series, but it's a pretty old LP and HCBailly might be too autistic for some viewers.
>>3797050Yeah nobody with a speech impediment please
>>3763557 (OP)I used to replay disgaea 1 and 2 all time. I hate getting old. Itโs hard to enjoy stuff now.
>>3796112For me the silver lining is that it has possibly the best item world of the disgaea games
item worlds before added a lot of stupid bullshit
item worlds after were completely neutered
D2 allowed you to modify how challenging it is
Micky
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So I remember someone saying that food is crucial for getting exp boosts in Makai kingdoms but how do you do it?
is the leveling strat for Disgaea 2 basically the same as Disgaea 1? i know there are no Statisticians, but is grinding out with a sword/winged slayer the way to go?
Is there anything comfier than holing up in the item world?
>>3801722Instead of the statisticians there's felonies, and there's the usual CoO stage where winged slayer works wonders, it might be even better in this game because of the weapon scrolls that can set a weapon's mastery to A so you don't have to bother with mastering a sword through another class
>>3783317I vote third party.
>>3801785Please don't. In Disgaea this usually ends up in the senate 100 times your level beating the shit out of you.
>>3770056Depends. Do you like Lord Byron?
>>3783317>burgerpolitik localizationGross.
>>3801725want some pirates
>late/post gametoo bad you aren't getting that one
>>3781623>no reason to go to item world in 7what happened? it doesnโt upgrade weapons or give you bonus stats junk any more?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MGiPFzRg9A4
4 has my favorite cast. Hands down. Itโs my favorite for that reason. Iโm not a fan of Fuka but the rest of them make up for it. I enjoy grinding and I like to see big numbers. And I think the world building is fun.
>>3804365The D4 cast is great but I like the D1 main trio the best
Which Etna theme is better?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s7GOcQCs3yM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nfq41t1bfAs
>>3804365Who is that suave vampire and what has he done with Lord Valvatorez?!
>>3807208Gave him a sardine and told him it turned it's eater into a sex god.
>>3807245Would Valvatorez even know what sex is?
>>3807531Not until Fenrich helped him out. All is for his Lord.
Disgaea 2's OST is so good.
wouldn't mind a remake. I'd like the sinner class back. they sure hit different than the regular martial artists. they should port the Disgaea 1 remake for PC as well already and then D3 so there is no shitty gap in my steam library.
D6 was sorta horrible because they fucked level scaling and curves and I'd rather have sprites back.
>>3804352>>3804365I kinda wish they'd bring back the geo cubes from D4. also I'm hoping D4's online services won't get shut down ever.
>>3783317I vote tits.
>"make a busty beauty" in D2>fail senate hearing for that 3 times because it was clearly full of gays
>>3807793hopefully they do a 180 and go all-in on nostalgia pandering - including sprites - for Disgaea 8, assuming there's an 8th game
the alternative would be leveraging the advantages of 3D such as lots of different costumes but they don't seem interested in doing that
>>3783161it's one of the better entries in that series. you're missing out.
>>3807797pretty sure there will be Disgaea 8.
>>3782940man I played that witch game recently and it already seems more fresh than whatever EO was doing until EO3 came out.
>>3807175I like Etna rock better
Disgaea 2 has a lotta good songs
>>3807796Demoflat majority house
I have 1st game on the Steam? Is that good entry point?
>>3808302yes
maybe install the pretty prinny mod, then you're good to go
>>3808083https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nfIxHU8oOX0
I loved that one. there's a very similar one in D5 but this one seems more intense. Sato is a based composer for sure.
>>3763557 (OP)>Archers>Female bow class>From an all-female clan of cute and friendly flatties. Hates rangers.>Rangers>Male bow class>A bunch of rapey looking ikemen playboys. Hates flatties (AKA the Archer clan).What did NIS mean by this.
how do you go about powerleveling monsters in Disgaea 2?