Just found out this exist & as soon as I saw the sheer size of the maps/world I was hooked,this is how you make your game ooze Lord of the Rings & Gothic on roids!!

https://youtu.be/h6JN3wWeqHQ?si=4L1uO70E3vOrOLXd

>>3764473 (OP)
Wow you must really care about RPGs if it took you think long to find this piece of shit. Retard

The game is real good a lot of fun to be had it's even co op


>>3764477
And cunts like you are why this place has become a shit hole.

Fuck off loser

>>3764495
It's a shit hole because of retarded trolls with shit taste such as yourself.

>>3764500
The only taste you have is your dad's cum drizzling out the side of your mouth

>>3764473 (OP)
I mean the world is cool, I really enjoy the different scenery of magical mountains, deserts and perilous swamps but the game itself is shit. The clunkiest of the clunk and obviously travelling becomes a chore once the novelty of the map is over.

>>3764473 (OP)
Wow, looking for your backpack after every fight. Looks okish, but that's a turn off for me. It sold decently, so they might improve on the next title.

>>3764539
>The clunkiest of the clunk
Complete bullshit.
>travelling becomes a chore
Partially true. Being fucked by the weather while traveling unprepared and barely surviving was an extremely KINO experience.
What I disliked, is that:
a)There's nothing much in-between the locations.
b)They didn't commit to the traversal bit as the distances aren't even that long and you can basically just spring through everything.
I wish it had Death Stranding injected into it.

>>3764473 (OP)
it's a mediocre game. They are working on the sequel and they let some youtuber play what looks to be the earliest concept build of it which looked terrible btw. It seemed like it needs 4-5 years of development

>>3764473 (OP)
It's a really fun game, if you have a friend willing to play it too it's really solid co-op but it does make most encounters a fair bit easier because you can flank enemies. Regardless 10/10 co-op game and really fun to explore and figure out builds. There are timed missions though keep that in mind.

>>3764477
NTA but I've always had my eye on Outward and never pulled the trigger because I've heard mixed things about it

>>3764585
It's basically zones connected like how the older classic MMOs like everquest had it

>>3764678
You really should just grab a copy for PS4 & grab a buddy for awesome split screen co-op m8

>>3764473 (OP)
Outward has the ugliest character creation I've ever seen in a vidya. I tried to get my gf to play coop with me but she refused when she saw the character creation choices kek.

>>3765456
This is so true.
Had a new appreciation for head-wear irl after it.

>>3764495
>Retard /v/ migrant posts bait
>Even more retarded /vrpg/ sperg responds to bait
Dumbass

>>3765529
>denied the joy of sperging out
Tsk tsk tsk

>>3764473 (OP)
>the sheer size of the maps
They're not even that big. They are empty as fuck, tho.

>>3765456
That's because you hardly ever see yourself properly if wearing heavy armor m8,just look at the amount of tiny details like pic-related it literally glows in the dark that's pretty cool considering how you find blue Sand in the 1st place!

>>3764473 (OP)
>this is how you make your game ooze Lord of the Rings & Gothic on roids
I have played the game and liked it, but have no idea what you meant.

Based Outward thread

Fantastic RPG, it's modern enough to not be a slog to understand, while being difficult enough to filter plebs and normalfags. Put a solid 400 hours into it and I'm still thinking of going back.

Hope the sequel turns out well
>>3765456
Oh God yeah, the characters on offer are pretty fugly, but as the other anons said helmets are viable on lots of builds

>>3764473 (OP)
played outward a bunch around 5 years ago. If you get past the jank and general weirdness of how the mechanics work it definitely has a charm to it. I played with a friend and thats what really makes the game, I wouldn't recommend it if you're playing solo. You could tell the developers are amateurs at every level of gamedev. Eventually the travelling, backtracking, weird and empty story telling starts to wear on you once you get used to it and you start wanting to play literally anything else.

>tldr
Great concept, interesting mechanics. Terrible execution from inexperienced devs. It can be good for a few sessions until the illusion breaks.

>>3766678
I also hope the sequel isn't just another unreal engine 5 default settings game. If they can take the experience they got from making Outward and refine it then they would really have something special.
>difficulty
Difficulty was strangely inconsistent. You could power through a bunch of bandits but their boss would one tap you. Some enemies would be extreme damage sponges where you're just baiting one attack over and over again for several minutes. I think it would benefit alot from an easier mode or even being able to alter certain aspects of the game.

If they added Dragon's Dogma style of fast travel it would take much of the tediousness out of it for me.

>>3766711
>amateurs

For a very small studio of only 10 people I'd say they did an amazing job m8,also best pack coming through!

>>3766754
>Studio small = good!!!
Not following your logic. Being small doesn't shield them from criticism. They didn't do an amazing job at all, they had a good idea with mediocre execution. I want them to do better next time because I want to see Outward not feel like some student's unity project but considering how Outward 2 is shaping up I doubt it. Its okay to want better things for yourself, anon.

>>3766784
>mediocre execution
Objectively good execution.
Maybe the word you are looking for is "scope" (as a lot of things could be expanded)?

>>3766788
>objectively good execution
>Sittting at a chunky 70% on steam
Yea I'd say thats pretty mediocre. They should of realized their limitations as "amateur" game devs as in they have only made 2 other shit games and limit their scope as in their "execution" of it was shit. Fucking midwit trying to abuse rhetoric. Actually kys, people like you make discussing anything online annoying as fuck

>>3766793
>people like you make discussing anything online annoying as fuck
>goes through the motions of having discussion
Lmao.
People like you talk just for the sake of talking, without putting any thought into what you are saying. Ultimately, you have nothing valuable to say in the first place. Your lame ad hominen drives my point home.

>>3764473 (OP)
IIRC my main issues with it were
>rune magic being too limited even with the upgrade, and the upgrade meaning you still had to carry a stupid book at all times and couldn't use a cool staff
>another reason you wouldn't be using a cool staff: sigil magic is just lame in general
>almost every worthwhile location is marked on the map, and the maps are actually not even that big, so instead of exploring and adventuring you're just following a checklist anyway
>you have absolutely no idea what any skill tree will do before you find the trainer, so you have to look them up to know where you want to go
Also fuck them for nerfing hobo camps while limiting you to one house before postgame, almost lost all my shit when I died in the DLC and skipped 3 days. Had to recover a backup save.

OW2 looks like it's at least letting you equip whatever in each hand, giving you a mule (explicitly not a mount), and doubling the quickslots, so that's some steps in the right direction. If they do it right it might be really good.

>>3766813
Oh and I hope they double down on the survival mechanics, because I want to actually be able to say "I love the way this sucks!" instead of "this doesn't even suck all that much honestly". Was too easy to manage.

>>3766813
>rune magic being too limited
The most versatile "skill tree" out of them all.
>had to carry a stupid book at all times
There's a skill that removes the need to carry Lexicon.

>>3766813
Is magic that overpowered was thinking of going full rogue with either bows or guns maybe some pressure traps for good laughs?

Only ever tried warrior types before

>>3766819
>The most versatile "skill tree" out of them all.
And yet.
>There's a skill that removes the need to carry Lexicon.
>with the upgrade, and the upgrade meaning
Nigga read. They're mutually exclusive, picking internalized gives you even fewer options.
>>3766839
Sigil magic is really good and maybe the hexes, the rest not really. You should be fine with whatever you pick, especially if you use traps, because they're definitely OP as fuck.

>>3766854
>Sigil magic
Fuck I meant rune magic.

>>3764473 (OP)
Tried playing it, it felt like a very unpolished korean mmo rpg. Hopefully they'll make Outward 2 and improve upon everything, especially their engine and character models

>>3764495
Based.

/vrpg/ has become too much like a retro RPG board. Most of yall stop being gay, deadass.

what kind of body is this?

>>3767038
Skeletor!?

>>3766854
>even fewer options
It's same amount of options. Runic prefix buffs existing spells, it doesn't add any new rune combinations.

And I'll repeat again so it's not swept away in nonsense:
RUNE SAGE IS THE MOST VERSATILE SKILL TREE (even without investing a breakthrough point).

>>3767185
Oh you're right. It's still too good to pass up if you're actually going to heavily use runes, unless going for a specific build that needs something else in the offhand at all times.
>most versatile
Yeah, it's almost too good not to use yet too underwhelming for what it is. One could argue that every skill tree is underwhelming and should have had more going for it, it's just that the rest of them don't appear as promising at first.
>even without investing a breakthrough point
Without a breakthrough point it's just a free light, a mediocre sword for fighting ghosts, and a magic trap that isn't even much of a trap when you're spamming it in enemy's face in combat. Protection is negligible. And it's unlikely you'll want to waste half your quickslots on all of these if you're not investing further.

>>3766678
>400 hours


Literally how,but more importantly go full guns or bows?

>>3767314
over the course of years, first on PS4, then on PC, entirely SP, too!

It's the combat that I think always had me coming back, weapons had so much oomph to them, you could feel the enemies taking the hits, and you sure as hell could feel it too.

And full guns or bows? Why my dear Anon, do both, both are viable. The optimal way to play bows is to stack movespeed and kite the enemy, and you can hot bar multiple guns and stand in the wind sigil to make them do shitloads of damage.
Also, chakrams, you can make a amazingly fun battlemage with a chackram build.

Also, if you're on PC you can mod out some of the gripes people had with the game, I can link some below in another post, they don't take away that much from the game so imo they'd be fine to use if it's your first playthough. But for gods sake Anon, USE THUDERSTONE AND R2MODMAN, Nexus is full of outdated mods and the mod launcher is stupid easy to use, Nexus is shitty anyway.

>>3767494
Here I collected some of the mods I used anyway

https://thunderstore.io/c/outward/p/lasyan3/SoroboreanTravelAgency/ Essential mod, enables fast travel to all cites by default
https://thunderstore.io/c/outward/p/sinai-dev/Multiple_Quickslot_Bars/ Works for both KB and controller
https://thunderstore.io/c/outward/p/Schnabeldoktor/Alchemists_sell_bombs/ and also https://thunderstore.io/c/outward/p/Schnabeldoktor/DLC_Arrows_outside_of_Caldera/ Lets you use the DLC items in the base game, the 2nd DLC items are locked away behind end game areas that take a very long time to get too
https://thunderstore.io/c/outward/p/sinai-dev/Shared_Stashes/ every chest in cities now stores the same thing
https://thunderstore.io/c/outward/p/Gurrnak/Ammo_Stacks/ 15 shots is very limiting

Can't vouch for any major gameplay altering ones, they mostly add skills and new items, be best to keep the game vanilla, no clue how balanced they are

I like the game but I do find it a chore to play without some mods.

My issue with the game is less with the game itself, and more how obnoxiously wrong the marketing and random people's pitching of it were
They make this huge deal of you being just some dude, and then unless you really can't wrap your head around the gameplay, you go to absolutely clowning on literally every enemy in a very short time. Which is fine and expected, that's how things go in games, but man, you can't claim your big distinguishing feature is not being a big badass hero and then let you be a big badass hero pretty much immediately, doing shit nobody else has the balls to try without even breaking a sweat with a modicum of preparation

>>3767033
A lot of 4chan sadly has turned this way.
It's sad

so this is just another third person action rpg? looks boring.

>>3767684
>another third person action rpg

Did you even read the thread m8, it's completely different from something like demons souls or gothic

>>3767494
Thanks anon managed to grab/located the first three legacy chest by pure luck,read up on the last one being inside the swamp in a complex dungeon so didn't think it was worth it for an golden pickaxe or fishing hook [\spoiler]

>>3766813
>12% drop chance

What were they smoking!?

>>3767905
yeah, it added tedious survival mechanics, right?

>>3764473 (OP)
I did not like this game because because you had to use gay ass books for magic. A mage's romance is all about staves.

>>3765573
>empty

Try getting through emekar forest at night while dodging ghost & bandits/chimeras!

>>3766711
>If you get past the jank and general weirdness of how the mechanics work it definitely has a charm to it.
wow just like every bad game

>>3766788
Anon you're retarted

>>3766967
>MMO

Well you're not off the mark,just spent four hours scouring around the gigantic forest map looking for trees with pic-related on them to craft the next "tier" of craftable armor but so far only found three copal gems

All I know is that it's pretty funny to play the Rogue Engineer spec, between the shanking and explosive traps galore
Although it fucking baffles me they even bothered with Stealth Training as a skill, especially exclusive with Pressure Plate Training, which is the only reason you'd even sneak around except the very early game where you might not survive being stabbed in the ass by a random monster
My gripe is that most other specs are pretty... niche at best, or just weirdly implemented. Skills in general are. I think Sigil magic as a whole is the biggest disappointment since it was the type of magic they seemed really proud of, but... I don't know. It's VERY effective once you get to a certain point, since when you stack your sigils every cast of the triggering spells basically hits the enemy with three different blasts at once, and with proper boosts it's easy to wipe your ass with most enemies... if you can manage to stay in the circle. But it doesn't really feel like what I think they wanted, it's really less shamanistic/occult vibe and preparation, and more the awkward early game of running around to learn the sigils, followed by hauling a bunch of wacky stones around (which are easily replenished due to crafting) so you can designate a certain spot your fuck zone and just stand there and mindlessly spam one or two keys over and over.
What it DOES do pretty well is hybrids, but it takes some time to figure out how to get the most from Infusions and manage the mana/stamina burn system.

>>3764545
There's literally an handful of backpacks that specifically don't mess with your ability to dodge like the scaled set & othes

>>3764473 (OP)
>this is how you make your game ooze Lord of the Rings & Gothic on roids!!
>[double exclamation mark]
First off, you sound like a redditor boomer.
Second, you clearly only watched the Jackson's sloppa and never read the books because if Outward reminds you of LotR then you'd be in a hard time to elaborate why. Because it's fantasy? Is Final Fantasy a Lord of the Rings & Wizardry on cocaine? Retard.
Third, you clearly never played Gothic, maybe watched a review on YouTube. Gothic never was popular due to it's action or rpg mechanics, it was about the world, and outward has the most mediocre bland world you can imagine.

>>3764473 (OP)
>mfw found out if you actually jump into the gigantic hole inside veneval fortress you risk losing your equipment permanently

I literally just crafted a full copal set & was on the way to burge to actually start the quest line so I could sneak in :_:

>>3769548
I really don't know what they were smoking placing only a handful of three skills for bows

At least the added DLC gave you extra options with elementals arrow compared to the base game having five bows

>>3764473 (OP)
>meanwhile in the levant desert

>>3771853
Yeah, it's more tolerable with that, except to take full advantage of it you have to intentionally wander into Caldera ahead of schedule and get the Alchemist there. But then you have to risk your ass there to get the new specs (although two of them are more useful benefits, Primal Ritualist is kind of a centerpiece of a character and is a pain in the ass to get as a result). Not exactly peak design.
Still baffling that they made Imbue work on melee weapons, shields AND pistols, but told archers to go fuck themselves until not only a DLC, but the SECOND one. Just straight up 'why even bother' considering exploiting elemental weaknesses makes things way easier, and the whole game hammers 'fight smart not fair' into your head every chance it gets.

>>3773040
Just the sight of the mask reminds me of the shittiest part of the game, the movement speed. The default is insufferably slow, and then they have a bunch of gear to make it manageable and eventually hilariously fast, so sooner or later you end up having to switch between one of the bird masks (depending on how many playthroughs you did) + Master Trader gear for zooming across the map and then whatever you actually want for combat. It feels goofy as fuck.

>>3773065
Wait there's more then one type of sonic mask!?

>>3773255
Yeah, but you need to cycle NG+ or at least exploit the legacy chest system. You get the base pearlbird mask from the bullshit RNG, then you can shove it in the legacy chest and get the black pearlbird mask, then do it AGAIN to get the jewelbird mask, which I think goes up to... +20% speed?
It's not a big upgrade given the base is +15% as I recall, but it adds up, especially if you really stack the bonus from other things.
Or you can just cheat yourself the jewelbird mask and skip the whole annoying process when you start a new game

>>3773040
I see you have a large beaked mask to blend in with the locals.

>>3764539
>mfw going through dark ziggurat blind & making it out by sheer luck to the other side

>those mini t-reks

That place was so spooky & unnerving

>>3764473 (OP)
>ALMOST 2026
>NO OPTION TO INVERT BOTH CAM AXIS
DEVS SHOULD BE SKINNED ALIVE AND RAPED LIKE KEVIN R. NASH IN SOME MEXICAN CARTEL VIDEO RIGHT FUCKING NOW.

>>3767542
Such as? What are some good QoL mods other than what the guy above suggested?

>>3773065
eventually I just caved & took my alchemy pack & just threw everything that I couldn't carry into the house stash & decided to only take the bare minimum, health pots jerky & pugnate paste

I regret not taking any magic & trying to go full two hand claymore the weapon animations are so much worse then the others especially two-handed great axes

>>3764477
>>3764500
>>3765529
>>3765567
these posters are the cancer of /vrpg/

Its was kinda amazing to watch live how /vrpg/ did a speedrun to become worse than /v/ and /vg/ in recordtime.

>>3770173
Only men who seek to fellate other men number the points they make. You are reddit and disgustingly gay.

>>3764473 (OP)
i played this with a gf, haven't played it since we broke up though lol

Tsar weapons worth the hassle of actually trying to hunt down those "rare" gemstone, was thinking either the greataxe or spear maybe the one handed for kicks?

If I choose wind sigils or the imbue wind they get a huge boost of speed right?

>>3776976
I never found the boost in damage to be that useful, personally, but if you really want to see the big number it IS the best option. And I guess if you went full autismo you can optimize your entire being for physical damage boost (ammolite set, pearlescent mail, keeping discipline on at all times etc) and they'd really benefit from that, even more than ordinary weapons.
>If I choose wind sigils or the imbue wind they get a huge boost of speed right?
As I remember it'll bump them back from 0.8 to 1.0 speed mod, usually on par with the non-Tsar variety.

>>3776303
>CombatHUD
Adds more information in the HUD. Most importantly, it shows how long you have until each buff/debuff expires.

>Any mod that gives more quick slots

>SoroboreanTravelAgency
Increases range of caravan travel options

>Transmorphic
Allows you to change armor appearance the that of another armor. Also give you the option to enchant through a crafting menu if you don't wanna fuck around with the butterfly table.
The best plus is being able to wear the spooky skeleton costume without getting one-shot by everything.

>AlternateStart
Gives you more options on how you start the game if you don't want to go through the standard start at Cierzo. The vanilla start is still an option.
It also has lots of new starts that give different bonuses and penalties. Example: One of them increases your bow draw speed but reduces the damage you do with non-bow weapons.

>Item Price Helper
Displays the sell prices of items. Helps a lot in deciding what to loot.

>SpeedOfTheWinds
Adds a craftable potion that increases your running speed outside of combat (your speed returns to normal when you enter combat).
There are several mods to increase travel speed, and having one of them is almost mandatory to not have a miserable experience. This one is the one I feel is more balanced since it doesn't affect combat as much as others that just increase your overall speed.

>Tsar Stone Crafting
In case you don't like the idea of only being able to get about 5 of this crafting material per playthrough.
The recipe uses 8 of those elemental particles you need for enchanting, which are very desirable materials, so I guess it is not that OP?

>Shared Stashes
Makes all player house chests share the same inventory.

>Skip Logos
Skips the logos when you boot the game.

>>3777668
Continuing for archers. If you plan on using bows a lot, get these two mods

>Ammo Stacks
Increases Bullet/Arrow stack size from 12/15 to 50

>DLC Arrows outside of Caldera
The game has elemental arrows but the only way to craft them is using arrowhead kits, which are only sold by the end of the fucking postgame DLC. This mod makes them available in low quantities in blacksmith shops and adds the elemental arrows to loot tables.

>>3764473 (OP)
trash, of course a faggot on here would like it

>>3764473 (OP)
Is it true that the survival mechanics are merely an afterthought?

>>3777668
Thanks anon, what's with the flying pizza?

>>3777899
It's a chakram weapon called "Mysterious Chakram", and it is a reward from a sidequest in the desert town.

I for one thought the Lexicon was cool, fuck staves

is hex mage completely overpowered

>>3778054
It's cool on paper (nopan intended) but was implemented like shit here. Always out, no animations, and it can't even float. Magic books should float sometimes.
>fuck staves
Fuck you, leatherman.

>>3778424
>mfw just reached magic mountains

Now what?! How do I unlock more "magic" & what do sigils/combo magic actually do?

>>3778495
Mostly from "class" trainers, although some spells are learned from dialogue. Should be able to get a couple right there.
>what do sigils/combo magic actually do?
They combo into magic. Sigils alone don't, you use other types on top of them. There's not a whole lot of variety though, so don't get your hopes up.

>>3764473 (OP)
I played this shit with some friends and I absolutely fucking loved it
The fun parts were preparing for your excursions while in the city; shit like supplying on healing potions, food, water, medicine, whatever the fuck
The fights were pretty hard too but we ended up beating the game (and that one dlc with the huge super long dungeon you gotta explore)

>>3778498
thanks anon looking through the list there actually seems to be a bunch you have your standard fireball combo with spark & the unusual lantern sling/flamethrower

Should 7+ of mana be good enough for most spells, leaving me with 70 HP but I figured if they can't reach me before I blast em they should be smooth sailing

>>3778518
The easiest answer is that you start low and if you keep running out, get more mana. You really want to have that buffer, you can't ALWAYS avoid getting hit, some enemies - especially the storyline and optional bosses - have some... tricky attacks.
Technically for an actual pure mage, the pro strat is to have a pretty small mana pool and instead stack casting cost reductions, as there's a LOT of them. With the best staff and armor from one of two possible optional bosses you can hit permanent 90% cost reduction, which should speak for itself.
Ironically it's the hybrids that take more raw mana, because they can't have all their gear with mana reduction as they also want other stats, but at the same time heavier armor and skills from martial specs mean better survivability in general, so a smaller HP pool matters less.

Also I think the game explains it well enough, but just in case - sleeping is bad. Tired is good. Mages run on insomnia, and Pungent Paste is your new crack (because it gets rid of health/stamina burn without resting, and is very easy to make)

>>3778522
nta but I've always just lugged around tea for the burnt health & mana helps with the hyenas rabies too

>>3766813
>sigil magic is lame

are we playing the same game, it's amazing once you've gotten used to the skill combos like ethereal bolt and shooting bolts of lightning is great

>mfw ice sigils get the short end of the stick and only three skills

>>3779645
ice sigil is godly for pure frost spellsword

>>3766813
> no mounts

Wait wasn't there a high cost mana spell for teleporting in the 1st game?

>>3780731
Nope. I don't know what you're confusing it with, but the only 'fast travel' Outward has are the Soroborean merchants with the DLC. Or the debug menu, of course.

>mfw have best armor I can buy elite plate & big electric greataxe

>try & fight this huge lich inside his giant golden tower

>get completely destroyed & left for dead inside the tower clinging to life

pure magic,I should have gone with a more magic build huh?

>>3780878
>big electric greataxe
>golden lich
Yeah that's not gonna work, he's basically made of electricity. It deals zero fucking damage to him. You want a poison weapon, or at least whatever weapon with poison rags to rub on it.
And if you wanna tangle with magical enemies you really need to invest in some elemental resistance to account for that, as pure magical damage gives zero fucks about regular armor - you want Blue Sand at the least, which is almost on par with Elite Plate on regular resistance but has Lighting and Decay resist as well. Could at least chug some Blessed Potions to get a resistance buff to that.

So no, the problem isn't going more magic; the issue is understanding the game has a really autistic adherence to damage types, and you need to be ready to optimize against specific types sometimes.

>>3766788
If the leaks are true we're getting massively expanded areas that are completely new but still part of the same landmass

>>3764539
I really wonder if they add more "friendly" monsters then just the one you could find in the 1st game

>>3778059
It's not unless you take sigils magic for backup!

So what's "better" for a pure mage, runes or sigils? Seems like the former doesn't really have any synergy with pretty much any other magic type.

>>3764473 (OP)
The concept of the game is really great and I'd love a well executed Outward-like game, but actual Outward feels and plays like a shitty, ugly, clunky (and not even good jank type of clunky) Korean MMORPG. I simply can't get past the visuals, the movement and character models.
And I play Dwarf Fortress in ASCII.

>>3778059
if you want to get real crazy you go full obsidian bow with the enkindke enchant and go through half of everything m8

>>3777668
>Shared Stashes
just to nitpick i'm pretty sure stashes are linked in definitive edition so this mod is obsolete
unless you are not playing definitive edition, but who would do that?

>>3764473 (OP)
What's the worst food/drink mechanic you guys encountered?

>>3764473 (OP)
best faction for gun blazing, I'm thinking either sorbian academy or levant?

>>3764473 (OP)
Played a bunch by myself and co-op, had to stop playing when I realised the maps I've been trekking have nonsense MMO design with ore nodes at random spots to keep your interest.

It has some good ideas in it but they don't gel together well. Also the game despawned my backpack during during co-op due to a disconnect, which is a huge oversight. Just play it locally, I guess.

>mfw that entire enchanting system is locked behind not only an ENTIRELY DIFFERENT area from the three other base areas but the reagents are only found there as well

It's absolutely insane how much these guys hate fun and want the player to suffer

>ALMOST 2026
>NO OPTION TO INVERT BOTH CAM AXIS
DEVS SHOULD BE SKINNED ALIVE AND RAPED LIKE KEVIN R. NASH IN SOME MEXICAN CARTEL VIDEO RIGHT FUCKING NOW.

>>3767684
It's literally about as "hardcore" as you can get with an shoe string budget that strikes that perfect balance between fun & grating if you don't grasp the mechanics after 2+ hours

>>3783440
Definitely go for the sigils if it's your 1st playthrough their really unique & worth seeing what each one can dish out

>have to store food in backpacks and leave them on the ground in cities so that it doesn't spoil because stash no longer prevents food from decaying
>second best option is to have a mule and use split screen to offload food on it
this game can have some things done immersively and then they do this shit
give me a fucking fridge for fucks sake! there is already ice magic in the game, can't be that hard

>>3791553
Oh you have no idea m8,it gets worse when you remember that those dream roots that you needed for enchanting you thought were safe in the house/floor of monsoon sorry only your original house back at the seaside village will stay permanent EVERY other house with items throw around will rott & despawn!

>>3791837
wait i thought that houses are safe?
even wiki says so

>>3792527
No only your starting home back in the fishing village is safe from items despawning, every other house will eat dropped items after 7 days or two weeks can't remember the exact time

>>3764473 (OP)
I'm a fan of Outward, but my main complaint is that it's just a very clunky game to play. The responsiveness isn't good, magic is annoying to cast, controlling my character feels lethargic, etc.
I don't necessarily want them to copy the Dark Souls formula, but at the very least they should be taking notes from the controls, which had basically perfected this kind of gamepaly.

>died to a plague doctor multiple times and used up all my stocked up buff potions that i have no recipes yet so i can't make them
>just restored backup save before all this happened out of frustration
i fucking hate the defeat system in this game
it literally exist only to waste players time
you died? well you just lost resources so go back and farm them again, oh and now you have fucked stats so you gotta heal up before you attempt again, also you are somewhere random!
i just sigh in exasperation if i somehow die now because i know it's just a waste of my time, where as in other games i could just load the game and it'd be couple minutes of wasted instead of at least an hour before i get back to where i was, even dark souls feel better
this system feel discouraging to actually try hard fights because if you end up dead you just lost a chunk of your life just to get back to where you were
if only there was a mod to remove that shit goddamn

>>3793991
it really feels like an throwback to classic MMOs like everquest & ultima online

>>3789022
really wish the devs implemented some kind of wacky 1st person view toggle

>download a mod that allows me to change armor appearance
>see it also has a option for easier enchanting
>wonder why would that be necessary and disable that option
>finally get into enchanting
ah, so that's why
this sucks ass, still wont enable it tho

>>3795211
It wouldn't be too bad if these guys have an actual 70% chance to drop their elementals alchemy drops every time instead of it being less then the 40% chance it is right now & you'll need tons to really start diving into it & experimenting with different weapons/armors

Although waiting seven days outside to respawn them was a neat trick I think the devs just overlooked that bug kek

>>3776395
It's the same 2-3 butthurt autists shitting on everything. I'm pretty sure one of them is Shazam-fag and another is some resetera faggot.

>no option to respec skills
goddamn that sucks, i've been running around with counterstrike but suddenly wanted to try out flash onslaught because i can reliably have discipline up
having to make a new character and bring it up to this point is just not happening
also the fact that you need 2 playthroughs just to get access to both weapon master and specialist is actually retarded
what the hell were they smoking

>>3796178
Brother just use the cheat menu

>>3796180
but that's cheating tho

>>3796178
>weapon master and specialist

Qrd?

>>3797204
last area of the game has you rebuild a town
in there you have to build gladiators arena and then choose an upgrade to it to access either weapon master or specialist skill tree
you can't do both
so unless you do it on two different characters you are missing out on some skills

>>3766813
anon you forgot the single most important part of sigils magic

>It forces you into an actual circle meaning you can't move or evade when fighting

good luck against the lichs with ice or fire magic kek

>>3764539
The 2nd one has a really good chance to be great

>enemy has 2 hit combo
>use counterstrike
>counterstrike parries the first hit and as my character begins to retaliate, his second attack connects with my body interrupting me
>i take damage meanwhile enemy is fine
it's those little QoL things that make me annoyed sometimes, other games would've given you invincibility frames during that shit
not here tho
i also lost count of how many times my character simply missed an enemy with it because they just moved slightly