Thread 3765975 - /vrpg/ [Archived: 1187 hours ago]

Anonymous
5/21/2025, 5:48:08 PM No.3765975
Divinity Original Sin 2
Divinity Original Sin 2
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>we have Baldur's Gate 3 at home
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Anonymous
5/21/2025, 6:01:16 PM No.3765986
>>3765975 (OP)
driving by mcdonalds while thinking "wait, I have a personal chef"
Anonymous
5/21/2025, 6:19:59 PM No.3765995
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>we have Baldur's Gate 2 at home
Anonymous
5/21/2025, 11:16:13 PM No.3766147
>>3765975 (OP)
No one cares that you are a homosexual.
Anonymous
5/22/2025, 6:03:13 PM No.3766500
>>3765975 (OP)
A good reason to stay home
Anonymous
5/23/2025, 3:59:22 PM No.3767088
>>3765975 (OP)
And now Sven wants to go back to this horseshit setting because its his OC donut steel. What a waste
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Anonymous
5/23/2025, 4:00:50 PM No.3767090
>>3767088
Forgotten Realms and 5E are both bad.
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Anonymous
5/23/2025, 4:55:15 PM No.3767101
>>3767090
>fantasy is bad
Why are you here? Go away.
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Anonymous
5/23/2025, 6:44:46 PM No.3767147
>>3767101
Forgotten Realms is bad fantasy and 5E is a bad ruleset.
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Anonymous
5/24/2025, 4:27:12 PM No.3767753
>>3767147
>bad as in good
Okay. I get it now.
Anonymous
5/24/2025, 6:08:09 PM No.3767790
>>3767147
>Forgotten Realms is bad fantasy
No.
>and 5E is a bad ruleset
Yes.
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Anonymous
5/24/2025, 6:48:09 PM No.3767801
The surprising part to me is how BG3 regressed from DOS2 in some ways (production values excluded clearly) despite being a newer game by the same devs on the same engine. Like the tooltips for items in the world in dos2 included the weight and value along with the name, to instantly identify what was worth picking up or not, while bg3 only gives the names. Or how in dos2 you can quickly filter inventory items by tabs to sort them, armor and weapons, consumables, junk worth only selling, etc, while at launch bg3s inventory was a horrible nightmare where everything is dumped in a single giant pile, and all you got was a buggy and broken search window.
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Anonymous
5/25/2025, 4:50:49 AM No.3768068
>>3765975 (OP)
I. . .almost agree. I enjoyed OS1 a good bit but couldn't get into 2. Then I tried to go back after BG3 and it was even worse
Anonymous
5/25/2025, 4:41:53 PM No.3768314
Bg1 > bg2 > dos2 > bg3 > dos1
Anonymous
5/25/2025, 7:46:09 PM No.3768419
>>3767801
RPGs used to have reasonable item and inventory limitations. Turning them into fantasy sims was a mistake.
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Anonymous
5/26/2025, 5:57:32 PM No.3769064
>>3768419
Yeah, I dislike how Larian games have six gorillion pieces of clutter that only exists to be gathered up and sold. Feels like a simple time/clicking tax. I would rather loot be simplified to an old school “here’s a chest with some coins and a sword”. Less is more. “Inventory management” is an unwelcome chore. No DM would let you hoard every rusty goblin sword and then sell them all to the blacksmith.
Anonymous
5/26/2025, 7:02:00 PM No.3769099
>>3765975 (OP)
i love bg3 but original sin 2 is so bad. i've tried to force myself to play it but i just can't.
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Anonymous
5/26/2025, 7:11:46 PM No.3769106
>>3769099
They’re literally the same game. BG3 is a mod for dos2 with higher production values, a cooler world, a shittier story, somehow even shittier characters and writing, and more woke.
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Anonymous
5/26/2025, 7:27:42 PM No.3769112
bg3
bg3
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>>3769106
BG3 has better world, higher production value and more immersive story telling, better itemization and loot system, better combat, better character progression and build variety. The only thing DOS2 has its higher difficulty but that can be fixed with mods.
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Anonymous
5/26/2025, 8:16:36 PM No.3769121
>>3769112
I liked a few characters better in dos2, idk.
Anonymous
5/26/2025, 11:25:09 PM No.3769207
>>3769112
>better combat
Only because DOS2's armor system is fucking retarded and thus by default BG3 has better combat
Anonymous
5/27/2025, 2:41:44 PM No.3769657
>>3769112
>BG3 has better world
Do you mean the background lore of the campaign setting, or the in-game world to explore? I dislike how densely packed Larian makes everything, every two feet you stumble across something, and you can plainly see sharp lines of color changes separating every zone. It all feels artificial and inorganic, like a theme park.
>higher production value
Obviously, I don’t think anyone will disagree
>and more immersive story telling
I personally found bg3 to be one the most immersion-breaking RPGs that I can think of. My suspension of disbelief was gradually eroded and destroyed as I went through the game, and by act 3 I was simply finishing it to see how bad it got. The story is insanely railroaded and dismissive of player choice to the point of teleporting you in cutscenes if you don’t do what the devs want. Try to not recruit Shadowheart. Or go attack the Absolutes army camp in act 2. (I found out on my second playthrough that you can sit there and lob fireballs at the enemies there and nothing happens. Such immersion, such systems)
>better itemization and loot system
Also disagree. Bg1 and bg2 had iconic items people still remember 25+ years later, bg3 floods you with gimmicky sets that stack charges of shit like an MMO.
>better combat
Combat is the exact same. Less granular even since you generally only have one action and one bonus action, as opposed to multiple APs with varying costs.
>better character progression and build variety
I disagree, 5th ed is the most dumbed down and worst edition of DnD, explicitly designed for casuals, women, and non-whites. Feats are an optional rule and most are inferior to simple stat increases, which they compete with. Racial stat modifiers were removed because they make people feel bad. The “build variety” is just stupid dips which are always a retarded concept.
Anonymous
5/27/2025, 2:43:23 PM No.3769658
>>3769112
>The only thing DOS2 has its higher difficulty but that can be fixed with mods.
I actually really liked what bg3 did with its difficulty settings (eventually, after several patches). They made it totally modular and you can combine the aspects of different difficulties to suit your tastes. E.g. I like adding extra enemies and improving their AI and new abilities, but I really hate simple stat bloat and giving them extra HP and damage, so I can do exactly that. Great idea and I hope to see it in more games going forward.
Anonymous
5/30/2025, 12:41:52 AM No.3771272
>>3767790
*Current Forgotten Realms.
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Anonymous
5/30/2025, 12:44:21 AM No.3771275
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>>3769112
>better itemization and loot system
You mean DivOS is even WORSE?
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Anonymous
5/30/2025, 1:13:03 AM No.3771290
>>3771272
No, all Forgotten Realms. It was always horrible. 4E's was the best for intentionally fucking it up and it was still shit.
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Anonymous
5/30/2025, 2:04:54 AM No.3771315
>>3771275
Yep
Inventory and even hotbar (for me atleast) management without mods is ass
Game is good otherwise, dont let it stop you
Anonymous
5/30/2025, 2:25:05 AM No.3771321
Am I the only one that doesn't really have a problem with BG3's inventory system and UI? The search function is good, the multiselect works as intended, click-dragging between character inventories is nice, and the nested containers are neat for organization.
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Anonymous
5/30/2025, 2:34:54 AM No.3771331
>>3771290
1E was much better.
Anonymous
5/30/2025, 2:35:57 AM No.3771332
>>3771275
It's so disappointing that they did the color coded WoW loot thing.
Anonymous
5/30/2025, 11:31:50 AM No.3771580
>>3771321
Compared to other games, it might not be bad, even good when compared to some other crpgs
But its still ass even with the features if played without basic mods to change up the ui and inventory management
Spent 4h+ yesterday fixing up stash inventory, companion backpacks and hotbar even with mods installed
Anonymous
5/30/2025, 5:32:25 PM No.3771774
IMG_5353
IMG_5353
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This game made me realize i love video games and i want to continue playing them.
Its not perfect but it got me in this death grip for a month that i was fully invested in the world and what was happening. Prior to that i only really played multiplayer shit doom grinding ranked in whatever was semi current and like Bethesda normie rpgs. This game made me explore more rpgs like i played divine divinty, fallout 1/2, wasteland 2-3, ultima 7 pathfinder wotr and kingmaker and the bhaalspawn saga(my new favorite game of all time being bg2) right after this game, i just couldn’t get enough classic rpgs.
Now that i played more rpgs i see its flaws more but i still hold onto that memory of my first playthough when i got out of my seat multiple times at points to think about what was happening, and considered every option.
Maybe it’s now just nostalgia but bg3 didn’t make me feel nearly as much.
Dos2 is special to me, and i still consider it a bigger success in putting crpgs in a new golden age then pillars which even when i was a brand new crpg fan hungry for more bored me
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Anonymous
5/31/2025, 8:33:28 AM No.3772081
>>3771774
I'm curious about what made dos2 feel better to you than bg3
I never managed to complete either game yet (dos2-made it to the third region with the cultists in the temple, and currently on bg3 in shadow lands)
However, bg3 is definately holding up to what I experienced in dos2 (except the combat system) so I dont know what exactly got nerfed in terms of the story telling capability
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Anonymous
5/31/2025, 12:44:59 PM No.3772173
>>3765975 (OP)
Who the fuck keeps bumping this? it was solved long time ago.

Baldur's Gate 3 is the better game.

https://arch.b4k.dev/vrpg/thread/3593024/#3598168
Anonymous
5/31/2025, 7:44:13 PM No.3772347
>>3769112
This except replace every instance of better and more with worse and less
Anonymous
5/31/2025, 7:49:27 PM No.3772351
>>3765975 (OP)
Just like BG3 and D:OS 1, this game could have been enjoyable - despite its retarded writing - if they didn't reinvent the wheel as a square with the chaining system.
Anonymous
6/1/2025, 1:07:16 AM No.3772528
>>3772081
Dos2 just had more whimsy and extreme violent moments to it, and thats way more interesting than a single tone. to me the characters are also overall stronger like the party+lucian+dallas+alexander+tarquin. I wanted to explore rivellion more that i later played every game in the series besides dragon commander.
Bg3 world and characters did not make me want more, honestly it just depressed me seeing vicionia.
I also just think the game is more fun, dos2 systems are pants on head retarded but it’s interesting retarded. Like a dozen physical abilities that throw you all over the battlefield and constant giant room clearing aoes and effects going off every turn with the game not giving a fuck about balance.
Bg3 its like just standard melee attacks and press concentration spell for it to instant break so you just abuse the 3-4 spells that deal high damage like cloak of daggers.
I remember that one part it has been years in act 4 outside of the temple lucuan is in with a bunch nps chanting “let another divine rise” and i literally my got out of my chair and walk back and forth chanting it with them. It was so fucking cool, never had that moment in bg3
Also divine divinty is the most underrated classic rpg, act 3 is kind of shit but that part is short. The rest is pure gold, more people should play it
One of the best ost too
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Anonymous
6/2/2025, 10:03:52 AM No.3773796
>>3772528
Violence and extreme moments are there in bg3 too, any examples that might remind me why dos2 did better on that front?
I'll agree, whimsy is a highlight of dos2, but I like my RPGs dark, gritty and filled to the brim with hookers, destitute beggars, and common folk to stamp out
I dont know if baldurs gate is less enjoyable to traverse as compared to the final town, but the country side areas and even the plots to a certain degree are swappable (I'm almost at the end of act 2 in bg3 so I'll know more then about one game at least)
Combat is turning into a chore in bg3 highly conflicted paladin drow durge, I'll likely do my next run as a completely evil dragonborn durge sorcerer (or whatever the canonical choice is)...and yeah, I'm more excited about them eventually going back to dos3 after Sven's space game is done
I was very excited when I went to the githyaklnki temple, and the fight in the shadow inn was exciting, especially with keeping isobel and her paper thin saving throws against paralysis and low health pool, same goes for the goblin vamp. The fights I remember from dos2 are Alexander at the beach, the ship fight and cursed area with the dragon inquisitor
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Anonymous
6/2/2025, 10:14:29 AM No.3773800
>>3765975 (OP)
>better story
>better lore
>better combat
yet I still find BG3 to be the better game... The verticality and build variety of BG3 is too damn good, same with the interactivity and reactivity. A better "rp" but slightly worse "g".
Anonymous
6/2/2025, 10:20:25 AM No.3773802
>>3772528
>>3773796
Less reddit and more serious worldbuilding drama would help both games. I agree DoS2 has the edge there.

BG3 systems are much better for multiplayer, as 5e has been hammered into shape by generations of playtesters at this point as a base system.
DoS2 is more tactical on the surface game-y but less deep overall as an RPG at the same time. You don't have as many tradeoffs that matter like in DoS everyone can get multiple teleports and first turn CCs, one of the first things I mod out is restricting that cheese.

BG3 has absolutely stupidly more production value but yet went slightly backwards in it's UI (no WASD for PC are you fucking kidding me, controller UI is pretty rough and assigns things to infinite wheels randomly)

I think if they bring that same production value to their own system, with what they've learned from 5e MP, and under their own license so they don't have to worry about trying to square peg their physics interaction stuff into 5e spell round holes we'll have something next level. Pretty excited all told, I still love both games and will be replaying them for a long time to come.
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Anonymous
6/2/2025, 10:25:03 AM No.3773803
>>3773796
>Violence and extreme moments are there in bg3 too, any examples that might remind me why dos2 did better on that front?
NTA, but all the mind flayer body horror happening to you in BG3 didn't have the same impact as watching the stilling of Source get performed on someone else in front of you in DOS2. Even with all the less voice and cinema budget versus some simple machinama, they really did a good job on that first island of selling you hate for your captors and what they were doing to everyone in DOS2.
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Anonymous
6/2/2025, 11:19:50 AM No.3773846
>>3773803
Oh. Fair.
But it felt the opposite for me
But i specifically meant durge and must admit I'd kinda forgotten about the opening cinematic with everything else happening in game. Durge moments are a bit over the top rn and won't be to everyone's liking cause of how comically evil they are ATM though
Maybe my imagination isnt as vivid as yours or maybe its cause I'm playing bg3 rn and not dos2 so I'll happily give you that one even if I disagree on that point for the time being
>>3773802
Maybe a few moments with shadow heart doing the fingerguns and astarion being a fussy hissy might've pushed it closer to reddit tier, but the overall tone was still gritty and gruesome, which I liked a lot
Dont remember anything similar which made me cringe in dos2 or maybe its cause I last played it almost more than a year back

Fucking hell, gonna have to take the long rest before doing the share trial instead of after.
Lost an hours worth of play cause of that, act 3 can wait I guess
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Anonymous
6/2/2025, 11:22:34 AM No.3773848
>>3773802
Additionally, don't give two fucks about multiplayer and whatever they might've learned about incorporating that in the game
No one I know plays RPGs much less engage with games generally speaking
Anonymous
6/2/2025, 11:25:10 AM No.3773851
>>3773846
>rn and won't be to everyone's liking cause of how comically evil they are ATM
are they going to change it?
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Anonymous
6/2/2025, 11:35:26 AM No.3773863
>>3773851
Oh I meant as in till act 2 till the butler pesters you to kill isobel and am holding out hope for it getting better in act 3 even though ive heard its a shitshow in act 3
I'm almost sure I'll let her be kidnapped by keththik next time around without a fight / killing her to see what it does
Anonymous
6/3/2025, 10:47:56 AM No.3774554
>>3771321
>inventory system and UI
its not the worst thing ever but its very bad, after playing WotR which despite itsf flaws had arguable the best inventory and UI (especially love spell description) in any rpg ever, it even has sell all useless crap button and its jarring to go from such a smooth experience to abomination inventory management of BG3
Anonymous
6/3/2025, 11:44:37 AM No.3774579
>>3765975 (OP)
>d:os
>d:os2
>bg3
Linear noodle knots and a camera zoomed too far in to give you the illusion of an open world free to explore
Chaining mechanic slows everything down and overcomplicates very simple maneuvers
The only cool thing among all three games is the teleport pyramid gimmick of d:os2, and it's just a toy to circumvent the little puddle-faggotry puzzles too present in all three games
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Anonymous
6/3/2025, 2:51:33 PM No.3774674
>>3774579
When bg3 first went public, you couldn’t jump over simple gaps as a party, you had to individually select each party member and order a discrete jump action for each. They quickly realized how retarded this was and coipied Solasta’s “follow the leader” jumping, which is hilarious to me, for how janky and low budget Solasta was
Anonymous
6/3/2025, 9:38:26 PM No.3774874
is it doable to play BG3 with only 2-3 party members? Divinity is so much better with the lone wolf talent and 2 man it. No inventory management nightmare and combat is faster paced.
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Anonymous
6/3/2025, 10:04:11 PM No.3774883
>>3774874
Yes, easily. Pretty easy to solo too for most classes.
Anonymous
6/3/2025, 10:15:45 PM No.3774889
>>3774874
I played it solo when it first came out and finished the game. Didn’t care for it. I waited a year or two for all the patches and replayed it with a custom party, still didn’t care for it. It’s not a great game.
Anonymous
6/6/2025, 5:22:47 AM No.3776321
>>3771275
does this play like bejeweled