Thread 3769646 - /vrpg/ [Archived: 1052 hours ago]

Anonymous
5/27/2025, 2:23:06 PM No.3769646
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With AI-assisted development imminent, we'll be getting yearly Elder Scrolls and Final Fantasy games
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Anonymous
5/27/2025, 3:53:35 PM No.3769699
Remember when we got yearly Final Fantasy games?
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Anonymous
5/28/2025, 6:14:57 AM No.3770144
>>3769646 (OP)
We used to get 3 goldbox rpgs a year.
Look what happened to them.
Anonymous
5/28/2025, 1:33:08 PM No.3770291
>>3769646 (OP)
The performance will really tell however - AI sucks at optimization currently.
That said it's no guarantee a dev can do better as well lmao
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Anonymous
5/28/2025, 2:29:09 PM No.3770311
>>3770291
>AI sucks at optimization currently
Modern devs suck at optimization because hardware specs have increased to the point of facilitating bloated garbage code, and modern devs canโ€™t make anything relying using bloated libraries made by other people and bloated engines made by other people with all of the aforementioned problems. Not even getting into h1b jeets that just regurgitate
stackoverflow and girhub. โ€œAIโ€ is only getting garbage in, and thus you arenโ€™t going to get anything but garbage out. Not going to change any time soon.
Anonymous
5/28/2025, 2:39:08 PM No.3770314
>>3769646 (OP)
>With AI-assisted development
If you knew anything about how game development actually works, you would know that is nothing more than what ignorant suits and billionaries wants and thinks is possible.
Apart from maybe making some shitty looking 2D image, it's absolutely useless.
Anonymous
5/28/2025, 2:49:34 PM No.3770317
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Anonymous
5/28/2025, 5:26:53 PM No.3770376
>>3769646 (OP)
Unironically AI could make a better FF than Square.
Anonymous
5/28/2025, 5:34:59 PM No.3770380
Paid Ai can't even make a simple Tetris clone without making your phone self destruct because it relies on broken pajeet code relying on broken forum posts.
In less than a decade AI will cannibalize itself and either burst or the world becomes idiocracy.
I put my money on the second.
Anonymous
5/29/2025, 6:03:24 AM No.3770707
>>3769699
and they were all worth playing?
meanwhile ff16 came and went without me hearing anyone talk about it because nobody on earth gave a fuck about that garbage lol.
what a world we've become.
Anonymous
5/29/2025, 2:20:26 PM No.3770933
Could be useful for creating stuff like 3D assets or maybe help with code, but you'll have me playing an RPG written and mostly designed by an AI. And yes, you would be able to tell.
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Anonymous
5/29/2025, 2:26:33 PM No.3770936
>>3770933
It's marginally useful for code, because it can look up and maybe find some errors or way to optimize some things.
Very minor.

Making 3D art assets is quite possibly the most retarded thing you can do because the results will shit, incredibly unoptimized, not made with proper procedures for good dev pipelines, etc. etc. etc.
You also need an artist to do cleanup on all of these assets, which usually take about the same time as if they made it themselves, except the end result is worse.
This is not even touching on how you can't directly communicate with AI, which is extremely important for game dev to do.

The only people that think it's a good idea to use AI for it are clueless execs that thing it's a way to cut down on development costs.
Anonymous
5/29/2025, 2:33:43 PM No.3770939
>>3770933
you'll never have me*
had a brain fart
Anonymous
5/29/2025, 6:47:29 PM No.3771052
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Remember when Final Fantasy used to optimize.
Anonymous
5/29/2025, 7:08:13 PM No.3771064
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sorry for the tweet screenshot. But it seemed relevant.
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Anonymous
5/29/2025, 10:09:38 PM No.3771182
>>3769646 (OP)
Maybe if you want more Final Fantasy 4 sequels, kek.
Anonymous
5/29/2025, 10:48:30 PM No.3771221
>>3771064
Reeks of outsourcing. Many outsourching studios, like Virtuous, are supremely shit at optimization which is legit insane. Like they only hire people based on nice looking models on Artstation and forgot that they'll be making game assets.

Now imagine this happening with every asset with AI, while also looking like shit.
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Anonymous
5/29/2025, 11:12:37 PM No.3771236
Ai is fucking cringe
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Anonymous
5/30/2025, 2:32:02 AM No.3771328
>>3771236
Hating AI just because its a buzzword right now is even more cringe. You cant deny its impact on every job nowadays, and ofc it is utmost important in coding
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Anonymous
5/30/2025, 2:57:50 AM No.3771342
>>3771221
You will never work for square enix
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Anonymous
5/30/2025, 3:34:26 AM No.3771359
>>3771328
No, it's shit and defending it makes you utterly pathetic.
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Anonymous
5/30/2025, 3:38:50 AM No.3771361
People have been saying this for years. "It's just around the corner!", "AI-assisted development is imminent!" well where is it? Maybe because the tools are actually shit and you spend so much time refining and cleaning what it outputs that its worse than current workflows?
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Anonymous
5/30/2025, 3:41:20 AM No.3771363
>>3771361
It's just the most recent technology scammers and business men are hyping up and like any other new technology fad it'll eventually die down in popularity and fit into a small and specific niche, nowhere near how it was promised.
That niche being shovelware and scams.
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Anonymous
5/30/2025, 5:35:11 AM No.3771404
>>3771328
>>3771359
>>3771363
Hating just for the sake of hating is more pathetic you faggots. Worse than redditors
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Anonymous
5/30/2025, 7:13:41 AM No.3771454
>>3771361
I think the RM threads called it. They know the indie community is mostly fake. But it's not that AI is replacing development. It's replacing the social interaction. People aren't dumb. They know a fake account when they see one. But they engage with them anyway.

But today, it's like, AI's acknowledgements are just as valid as the shills. I'd even say AI is more sincere. Because shills only want premade solutions. They're here trying to promote and gauge visibility. They don't actually care about your knowledge or skills, if you're competition they want to knock you down. When someone comes along offering to custom make a thing for free, they get ignored. It's a kind of emotional manipulation. But AI lifts them up, encouraging content creators to produce.

AI removes the barrier of entry and exposes the black lodge psyop.
Anonymous
5/30/2025, 9:33:30 AM No.3771530
>>3771342
>You will never work for square enix
Thank god for that
Anonymous
5/30/2025, 9:40:08 AM No.3771531
>>3771361
>People have been saying this for years. "It's just around the corner!", "AI-assisted development is imminent!" well where is it? Maybe because the tools are actually shit and you spend so much time refining and cleaning what it outputs that its worse than current workflows?
Here's the thing, the only ones making money off AI stuff are the ones creating the tools that they then sell to all these companies.

It's just the next cyclical thing companies overinvest in and oversell in importance. They then gaslight themselves into thinking "no, it'll get better, you'll see!".
The thing prior to this was NFTs, VR, 3D screens, etc. etc. etc.
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Anonymous
5/30/2025, 1:36:21 PM No.3771643
>>3771342
You will never be underpaid and forced to work on modelling belts. Oh noes, the tragedy.
Anonymous
5/30/2025, 2:14:10 PM No.3771657
>>3771404
I hate it because it buries all the good stuff made by real people under piles of shit, you absolute moron.
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Anonymous
5/30/2025, 6:32:39 PM No.3771804
>>3771657
Delaying gratification won't hurt you. Exercise your hunter and gather instincts, Mr. Human.
Anonymous
5/31/2025, 10:46:43 AM No.3772130
>>3771657
Your google-fu is just bad then
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Anonymous
5/31/2025, 11:12:26 AM No.3772141
>>3772130
It's like a storefront with tons of shovelware, asset flip trash and things which cannot even be deemed as games. Ironically a lot of them uses AI art as well.
There is no curation of quality.
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Anonymous
5/31/2025, 7:06:32 PM No.3772322
>>3772141
While somewhat understandable still sounds like whining and skill issue desu
Anonymous
5/31/2025, 7:40:55 PM No.3772345
>>3771531
It's a gold rush with dozens of shovel sellers yelling about how there's gold in thar hills but the only ore anyone's seen is pyrite
Anonymous
5/31/2025, 9:18:46 PM No.3772409
>>3769646 (OP)
Except not. Corporations are literal ticks. They aren't places where dilligent and talented people work, and se is especially inefficient and stupid.
Anonymous
6/5/2025, 11:58:23 PM No.3776201
>>3769646 (OP)
You could get even a better remake of FF7, without all the clutter SE have added on it.
Anonymous
6/7/2025, 1:12:33 AM No.3776811
>>3769646 (OP)
Using AI tools, is it possible for a lone developer to make a game the size of skyrim nowadays?
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Anonymous
6/7/2025, 9:03:38 AM No.3776991
>>3776811
>Using AI tools, is it possible for a lone developer to make a game the size of skyrim nowadays?
Of course not. Even if you used AI and procedural generation for everything possible (and the result would be dogshit of course) you would need like 10 years of active development because you would have to do literally everything.
The entire game needs to be coded, sounds need to be generated for everything and plugged in where it needs to be, ui needs to be designed and implemented, combat needs to be designed and animated, enemies and npcs needs AI, the world needs to be designed-generated-touched up (massive task), leveling system needs to be made, skills need to be designed and implemented and the list just keeps going.
Anonymous
6/11/2025, 3:09:53 AM No.3779999
>>3769646 (OP)
All this will do is increase the value of hand made games in a sea of Ai slop.
Anonymous
6/11/2025, 11:30:24 AM No.3780243
>>3769646 (OP)
I won't be playing any of this slop, but I want you to know they are going absolutely INSANE advertising AI shit in Japan right now. it's all over every train and taxicab screen. AI schools, AI consultants, AI businesses, literally going mental with this retarded AI gold rush right now. And as is typical with tech gold rushes, it's impossible to tell what half of them are even doing with it.

fortunately we already got the last best Final Fantasy (SOPFFO) so I don't care if the ip wants to sink itself now.