Thread 3775358

What's the best Persona game for the following
>best story
>best cast
>best MC
>best visuals
>best music
>best gameplay

Or is it just P5 for all?

>>3775358 (OP)
p5 for all, not kidding
although p3 was more thematically sound but the games are too fucking long for that to matter

>>3775358 (OP)
P2 for the top 3. personally I liked P2/P4's music the most. graphically idk, I liked P2's graphics but it is just ps1 sprites on a 3d plane, I think graphically the series has aged pretty fine. gameplay definitely not P2, probably one of the later ones but to be honest the persona series isn't known for being challenging. Play mainline megami tensei or strange journey if you want to actually see a game over screen atleast once in a playthrough.

>>3775358 (OP)
P5R Royal is the best overall, ignore anyone that claims otherwise. It had the benefit of being able to build upon what came before.

The only thing you could argue is
>best cast
being P4 Golden.

>>3775358 (OP)
1 has the best plot and characters

>>3775396
Except it didn't build on Persona 4, and was instead a downgrade in both writing and gameplay.

>>3775358 (OP)
Probably the fighting games

>>3775569
>Except it didn't build on Persona 4, and was instead a downgrade in both writing and gameplay.
>gameplay downgrade
If you want people to take you seriously, write something less retarded and wrong. The most obvious bait ever. Try and be less obvious with your attentionwhoring. No more replies for you.

>>3775627
It made all non-boss combats revolve around alpha striking since you were guaranteed to get an ambush. This in turn drained all possible challenge from the fights because the monsters never even get to attack you before dying. This is "balanced" by the fact that all the monsters hit ridiculously hard, so if you ever get bad rng you will get wiped very easily. And of course, demon negotiation is objectively less of a game than the persona acquisition minigames 4 has. Neither is particularly involved, but atleast some of the minigames have an element of skill related to them instead of being entirely rng and also massively time-consuming and pace-killing. The two additional elements are also superfluous. They don't add anything meaningful, you just have to look up what elements you need beforehand or go in blind, realize none of the enemies are weak to one of your party member's element and then go back and switch them out, which is just pointless busywork.
I will admit that the game-aspects of social links are done better in 5. And I only played base versions of each game, so perhaps the rereleases worsened or improved their respective gameplays.

>>3775358 (OP)
>P2 combined
>P2 Eternal Punishment or p3
>P3R ot P5
>All have some standout tracks, but not the best OST IMo). Most would say 5
>I'd say 3R

I find it hilarious how P1 PSP criticisms are so stupid
>muh fps dungeon crawler
yet so many people stroke strange journeys dick
>MUH REPETITIVE MUSIC
yet so many people go BABY BABY BABY BABY
>muh encounter rate
mother fucker persona 2 is equally as bad and it's right fucking there

>>3775680
>fps dungeon crawler
wut

>>3775681
You navigate in first person but battles happen on an isometric view for turn based..
Usually older Megaten games and spinoffs kept first person view for everything

>>3775982
yeah, it's a blobber
fps stands for first person shooter

>>3776001
>fps stands for first person shooter
Foot. Pound, Second system

>>3775680
>MUH REPETITIVE MUSIC
This is a genuine criticism
PS1's soundtrack is so much better, it's not even funny

>>3775358 (OP)
I only got into this series last December when I played P5R for the first time. I played P3R afterwards and just finished P4G a couple weeks ago, and even being spoiled on the identity of the culprit (is it even possible to play this game unspoiled these days?) didn't take anyway away from it. It legitimately is the best gaming experience I've had so far. It's weird because I was so burned out from the Persona gameplay loop because I played 5 and 3 back to back, and when I started 4 I was kind of eh, but the setting, the atmosphere, the characters drew me in so much that I couldn't put the game down and finished it in 10 days. Other than the identity of the culprit I was unspoiled, and reaching the true ending on my own was very gratifying. It truly felt like the end of a massive journey when the guitar chorus in the final boss theme kicked in, and I'm very glad I saved P4 for last. It's my new favorite game of all time.
Anyway, from what I've read this take is relatively tired, but 3 probably does have the best story, 4 the best cast, and 5 the best visuals. Gameplay wise, just from a battle standpoint, I prefered 4, but 5's dungeon crawling is more memorable. Music is 5, but 4's highs are just as good, and Yu is the best MC.
I have not played 1 & 2 but will seek them out eventually. I just wish they had Steam ports.

>best story
3
>best cast
3
>best MC
2
>best visuals
5
>best music
3
>best gameplay
5

>best tits
Mitsuru
>best ass
Fuuka
>best legs
Chie
>best fingers
Futaba
>best tongue
Ayane
>best feet
Marie
>best abdomen
Ohya
>best hair
Anne
>best voice
Tae
>best performance
Sophie

>>3775358 (OP)
>best story
P2

>best cast
P2

>best MC
P2

>best visuals
P5

>best music
Innocent Sin or P5

>best gameplay
P5 but it's really a wash because no Persona game actually has good gameplay.

>>3775680
>yet so many people go BABY BABY BABY BABY
P3 has one of the worst soundtracks I've ever heard in an RPG but P1 PSP's music is also bad. Meguro is horrifically overrated as a composer. Maken X and Persona 5 are the best soundtracks he ever did because Maken's soundtrack perfectly fits the game and time period it came out (the more electronica elements of the Y2K era while also sounding very gloomy) while P5's is different from his usual mid-tempo rock stuff while also being well made (as opposed to his atrocious attempts at pop/hip-hop in P3).

>>3776290
>as opposed to his atrocious attempts at pop/hip-hop in P3
It's hilarious how much better the new music added to P3R by Lotus Juice are in comparison to the old music.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5SyUwkZQd3s

What are your biggest critiques for Persona?

Personally, I hate the constant repeat exposition and recapping. Something would happen and then the characters would talk about it like three times in a row re-explaining it.

>>3776514
>What are your biggest critiques for Persona?
School setting and not even a University one.

>>3775358 (OP)
4 for everything

>>3776516
the games aren't for you. Just leave the thread.

>>3776149
>>3776001
>>3775982
>>3775681
bro i typed this at like 2am my time my bad

which game had the best FINAL MONTHS? It'll probably be a tie between P3 and P4 but I think P4 wins it. Fog is insanely atmospheric and I wish they do more with it on the remake with people slowly getting more and more paranoid (also lock down the social links lol). Then you also have the snowy month where that's also relaxing as all hell for a victory lap.

>>3776226
>but 3 probably does have the best story
I will never understand this viewpoint, it's the literal definition of an idiot plot that only works because everyone involved is a drooling retard that neither asks questions nor tries to explain their actions to other people. I feel people get completely blindsided by the fact that the protag dies so they don't actually think about or question anything that happened in the story.

3rd is the best

>>3776578
>which game had the best FINAL MONTHS?
Persona 5 Royal, easily. That last section is the best series finale by a mile. Especially since the big bad isn't some mystery asshole that appears out of nowhere you have no actual connection to, like in 3 or 4.

>>3776586
People rave about 3 and shit on the others because
>they have heavy nostalgia
>they are hipsters and persona 3 is the hipster choice, since they haven't played p1 or p2
>it's extremely basic so easy to follow and the theme of death and dealing with death is perfect for people looking at things superficially, since it's easy understood
They are so mentally ill they will unironically tell you hobo jesus is the best antagonist in the series and a great antagonist, despite being a non-factor 99% of the game and is only used as a plot device for 2 deaths they wanted to happen because they couldn't think of a better way for those deaths to happen.

>>3776659
>They are so mentally ill they will unironically tell you hobo jesus is the best antagonist in the series and a great antagonist, despite being a non-factor 99% of the game and is only used as a plot device for 2 deaths they wanted to happen because they couldn't think of a better way for those deaths to happen.
To be fair he does have a great design, but yeah all of Strega is wasted and could've been cut

>>3775358 (OP)
>Story
4
>Cast
4
>MC
4
>Visuals
Depends. The actual visuals: 5
Character/Persona designs: 4
>Music
4
>Gameplay
5

>>3775680
Didn't you already get called out on why your complaint is nonsense in another thread?

>>3775358 (OP)
>best story
2 duology
>best cast
2 IS has the best upfront dynamic and fun individual members while 3 has the best group arc and growth in dynamic over time. I'll give it to 3.
>best MC
4 has some of the best unique dialogue options, a clean design, and his spin-off personality is solid to hilarious.
>best visuals
5 for stylistic design and fidelity, but I personally like the character and persona designs in 3 most. Could go either way.
>best music
4 overall, but all of them have some absolutely killer tracks.
>best gameplay
5, but not Royal. I would almost say 4 (base, not Golden) beats out 5 but there are some really good QoL additions and conceptual battle ideas that just barely missed in execution. In terms of dungeon design, 5 is a slog to replay though and I would much rather play through 3 or 4 again over 5. 1 is surprisingly nice and I like a good dungeon crawler, but it's not the kind of gameplay I play Persona for.
I think it's pretty telling that all of the games do one or two of these things best, but there isn't any one Persona game that gets them all just right yet.

>>3776659
>since the big bad isn't some mystery asshole that appears out of nowhere you have no actual connection to, like in 3
This comment very much makes it seem like you haven't played Persona 3 in any form

>>3775358 (OP)
The strength of the Persona 5 Royal soundtrack is the consistency. P3R and P4G has some great tracks, but are riddled with a mix of bad and so-so ones.
Meanwhile P5R only has good to great music and way more of it.

>>3775358 (OP)
Everyone fucking LOVES P3R! It's started all this bout it bout it shit!

>>3776986
>This comment very much makes it seem like you haven't played Persona 3 in any form
Most of the game they either don't interact with the dorm group, avoids the group or just does their own thing.
There is no meaningful interaction with them or the group apart from the 2 times Jesus is used as a gimmick to kill 2 characters which were barely developed.
They never feel like a threat and their motivation to stop you is because they want their powers to fuck around with. Too bad they basically never try to stop your group in any real way. They have no connection to your group.
They're there out of convenience for bad writing.

The nu-personas don't have good antagonists and it took them until Persona 5 Royal to finally made a good one.

>>3777143
>The nu-personas don't have good antagonists and it took them until Persona 5 Royal to finally made a good one.
Adachi is a great villain whose only flaw is that the story cucks him by having his boss battle hijacked by something else entirely which is very anti-climatic. He's still much better than any of the nonsense in 5.

>>3775358 (OP)
>best story
3.
>best cast
4.
>best MC
Pass.
>Best visuals
3 or 4. 5 overdid it and had a kind of streamlined look imo
>Best music
All.
>Best gameplay
5 has the best mechanics but the worst pacing due to heavy exposition dumps, characters talking forever about nothing at all, and too many wasted "go to sleep Joker" days.
3 is lacking mechancis but has the best pacing and freedom.
4 is the middle ground.

>>3777168
(Also I haven't seriously played 1 and 2 yet, but they're basically a completely different series so I'm just answering with 3, 4 and 5)

>>3775358 (OP)
The P4 cast is the only one that feels like a group and not just an MC and dicksuckers that can't do anything without the MC present. You see the cast split off in subgroups for different activities and shit like that.

>>3777150
Adachi isn't a great antagonist. Beyond his vulgar change he's very uninteresting and shallow. Now he could have been a good antagonist if he actually was it until the end and didn't get shafted by the real big bad, while being more fleshed out.
Royal extended the game and added a proper antagonist that some some more complexity, depth, relatability and strong personal connection to the player and cast.

>>3777168
>5 has the best mechanics but the worst pacing due to heavy exposition dumps, characters talking forever about nothing at all, and too many wasted "go to sleep Joker" days.
>3 is lacking mechancis but has the best pacing and freedom.
Royal added more free days (toned down forced sleep) and has way more activities and meaningful stuff to do. So any spare time is better, more varied and makes your freedom more meaningful.
Even P3 Reload quickly falls into a repetitive samey or grindy pattern in how you play it.

P5 Royal benefits greatly from being able to build upon prior games and with Royal they fixed many of the problems the vanilla game had.

Depending on how they go about the Persona 4 remake (should be announced this week, according to rumors) that might change, but for now P5R is most definately the best in terms of gameplay and design.

I liked in 3 how not everyone was just Bros. Sure the MC hits on all the women, but it's not like everyone is all friends, they are a group together for a purpose with some tension among the group. You don't really get that from 4 or 5.

>>3777258
You just described P3 as well.

is it worth playing in 2025? what do i need to know gameplay wise before going in? i LOVED persona 1 (yes really) but every time i try to start this game, i feel overwhelmed by the card system

>>3777614
Just play it if you’re interested
Holy fuck be less of a pussy you don’t need the internet to make up your mind for you faggot

>>3777629
this anon is so tuff... cool guy... sugoi...

>>3777278
>Royal added more free days (toned down forced sleep) and has way more activities and meaningful stuff to do.
>P5 Royal benefits greatly from being able to build upon prior games and with Royal they fixed many of the problems the vanilla game had.
Does anyone else get the impression that Atlus were already planning P5 Royal when they released the original P5, and deliberately included all that "go to bed" shit and the missed 3rd semester so people would be more likely to buy the rerelease?

>>3777829
They obviously were planning the rerelease before P5 launched since the PS4 launch cucked them, but I doubt they intentionally gimped the game because of it. P4 also had a bunch of timeskips and "go to bed now" stuff, it's just a way to balance the time management. When you add more content you can afford to give the player more free days since without the risk of them running out of shit to do.

>>3777829
Forced "you can't use this day for spare activities" in various forms are there to balance out so you don't have too much free time, so you think a bit more about how to best use your time.
It was however clearly overtuned in P5 vanilla and too much of the same excuse gets silly.

>>3775358 (OP)
>>best story
Persona 3 and it's not even close.
>>best cast
Also Persona 3 and you know it's right.
The squad feels like an actual group of immature teenagers stuck with each other not because they want to, but because their duty compels them to fight for mankind.
Unlike P4 and P5 the rest of the cast doesn't just revolve around the MC and instead has their own little bonds and feuds going on.
>>best MC
Persona 5 because he's cool, which is the most important thing for a self insert MC.
>>best visuals
Persona 5 as well.
>>best music
Persona 3 and 4 mog Persona 5 badly, but of the two I always preferred P3's OST over P4's.
>>best gameplay
Persona 5 OBVIOUSLY.

>>3776578
>which game had the best FINAL MONTHS?
Haven't played P5R yet, but while I liked the Phantom Thieves having lost the public's trust and MC going undercover, the fog in P4 taking over the entire town and P3 having an entire new OST while everyone is going insane over the end of the world were peak atmospheric.

>>3777614
Game is so easy you can just stick to the base Personas.
But the fun of IS is try as many skill/magic combinations and unlock fusion spells.
Maybe get stoma as soon as you can because its encounter rate can get annoying.

>>3777863
>Unlike P4 and P5 the rest of the cast doesn't just revolve around the MC
No MC is revolved around more than Door-kun. He is treated as truly special, especially by all the major characters. He's so awesome he becomes best buddies with Death (twice), has the admiration of the antagonists, the toaster is obsessed with him, prevents Nyx from ending the world with the power of friendship and the list just keeps going.

>>3777874
That's just normal for being an MC, all of them are the "special chosen one" for having access to the Velvet Room and stuff.
What I'm talking about is that the main cast doesn't treat Door-kun any differently from any other party member and also has relationships and bonding moments unrelated to him.

Nobody is gaining their ultimate personas simply through befriending the MC, he's not elected the leader for no particular reason despite being the new guy, he even gets shat on by the others occasionally. P4's and P5's MCs are the founders and core of their individual groups which arguably would fall apart without them, while Door-kun is just another junior member of SEES.

>>3777878
>Nobody is gaining their ultimate personas simply through befriending the MC
Instead they get them automatically like Junpei which isn't even a social link. Junpei has a complex about the MC and his "development" is him falling for a goth chick and getting his shit a little bit more together when she dies. Which happens regardless.

>he's not elected the leader for no particular reason despite being the new guy
Maybe you should replay the games. It's even stranger here because it's an organization that has also had several vets that just move over because the protag is awesome.

>he even gets shat on by the others occasionally
Like the other ones. Unless you mean Yukari which was mostly just a bitch in the original and was even rewritten for this to be toned down in Reload. Yukari is also the one that is possibly the most impacted by the protag apart from Aigis.

>>3777953
Why are you doing this!?

>>3778009
Wait a minute...
Ken is coded Trans?
Junpei and Shinji are coded Black?

>>3778009
>dub
Who cares ?

>>3778009
Why would I care about how a VA looks? Are you retarded?
The only thing you should care about is if the voiceacting is good or not.

>>3778009
Who would even bother praising a dub? What the fuck? Like sure if the product is aimed at toddlers who don't know how to read then yeah there's nothing wrong with dubbing, but it's not praiseworthy either.

>>3778030
You miss like battle and background audio which is not translated.

>>3778038
>2025
>Still not understanding Japanese
No-one but yourself to blame. The writing was on the wall in 2020 already, if you had started then you'd be fluent by now.

>>3778025
Noooo …! You have to hate things because there’s a black guy!!!!!

>>3776659
Persona 3 is easily the best out of all of them, it's not even a question. That OST is phenomenal. Battle For Your Souls is S-tier.

>>3778206
>Persona 3 is easily the best out of all of them, it's not even a question. That OST is phenomenal. Battle For Your Souls is S-tier.
Persona 3's soundtrack is the most inconsistent of them all. The shitty rap in particular is jarring when compared to newer music like at >>3776387
It has some good tracks, but most of them are mediocre. This is me even factoring in smaller tracks most people overlook, like even exam music and how Reload improved the soundtrack.

it's the cool hipster thing to hate on Persona 5 Royal, but it does have the best and most consistent soundtrack of them all. Not to mention just the sheer volume where social links and shops have their own music like Layer Cake or dungeons having their own unique music and several versions of them.

All three games are similar to the point that it’s ridiculous to not treat them as the same

>>3776659
>Persona 5 Royal, easily. That last section is the best series finale by a mile. Especially since the big bad isn't some mystery asshole that appears out of nowhere you have no actual connection to, like in 3 or 4.
A bit of an unfair comparison since vanilla Persona 5 has the same exact sort of mystery asshole appearing out of nowhere as the final bad guy. They only slapped another real true final ultimate bad guy into the game.

>>3778259
>glazes Persona 3 Reload
>starts crying about P5R hate out of NOWHERE
Kid, you shouldn't bring your anger issues from previous threads in here.

>>3778285
>A bit of an unfair comparison since vanilla Persona 5 has the same exact sort of mystery asshole appearing out of nowhere as the final bad guy. They only slapped another real true final ultimate bad guy into the game.
Not an unfair comparison since Persona 4 had the Golden version and Persona 3 got Reload (and before that, the Portable and Answer). So all three games have had updates and Persona 4 will now get another one.

>>3778390
Maybe project less.

>>3775358 (OP)
Best Story: Persona 4
Best Cast: Persona 4
Best MC: Persona 2 EP
Best Visuals: Persona 3
Best Music: Persona 4
Best Gameplay: Persona 1

Dream game is Persona 6 going back to Persona 1 gameplay, ditching the faggy school shit but having the brady bunch scooby doo stuff in Persona 4.

>>3778572
>Persona 6 going back to Persona 1 gameplay
Combining the worst of both worlds, I see.

>>3778564
Yeah but crowbaring a completely new final villain is much harder when you have a more solid, coherent narrative like in Persona 4. And while the nonsense plot of 3 could have easily had a new final villain the whole protagonist dying kind of prevents it and fucking around with that is a really bad idea since it's pretty much the only reason people think 3's story is good.

>>3778606
>Yeah but crowbaring a completely new final villain is much harder when you have a more solid, coherent narrative like in Persona 4.

Dude, Persona 4 is possibly the best one since the antagonist is in the shadows for most of it. You could add 4-5 new characters, have a new antagonist/killer instead of Adachi (which never got the powers), change things around a bit and make the ending part better by cleaning things up. Especially since Golden made the last 3rd of the game even messier.

>kind of prevents it
Except it doesn't really, since after the Nyx fight the character is basically living dead and they basically fast forward that last month.
You could easily extend or redo that part so you don't fast forward it and extend it slightly.

Also, SMT5 made a new route, which is another option to take. Where tou can get an alternate version of the story with better characters, boss fights and shit while keeping the broad strokes the same.

Point is there are many ways you could go to improve the problems with 3 and 4.

>>3775358 (OP)
>>best story
Persona 2: Innocent Sin
>>best cast
Persona 2: Eternal Punishment
>>best MC
Tatsuya
>>best visuals
Persona 5
>>best music
As much as I hate to say it. Persona 4 lives rent free in my head to this day
>>best gameplay
For ease of use and flow, Persona 5.

>>3775358 (OP)
>4
>3
>4
>5
>3
>4

>>3775396
4's cast is carried hard by Kanji, Adachi, and the Sports Club guys

>>3776578
4, easily. Locking Mitsuru's S Link off until halfway through the second to last month is a goddamn crime.

>>3778285
>They only slapped another real true final ultimate bad guy into the game.
And they did it in the most hamfisted anticlimax possible

>>3775358 (OP)
1 is the only one worth playing unless you have a learning disability, both 2s are shit to play so don't @ me 2fags

>>3777873
>But the fun of IS is try as many skill/magic combinations and unlock fusion spells.
Oh boy so many useless combos
end yourself

>>3775358 (OP)
>2 or 3
>4
>2, Tatsuya not Maya
>5
>3
>5

>>3775358 (OP)
>story
P2 IS
>best cast
P2 IS
>best mc
P2 EP
>best visuals
P5 easily
>best music
psx P1
>best gameplay
probably p5, even if it's almost a vn at this point at least the dungeons aren't a never-ending nightmare of repeated hallways or random encounters

>>3775358 (OP)
>3
>4
>4
>4 on original ps2, fog kino
>3
>3
p5 fucking sucked ass on every front

Does...does the MC canonically fuck all these girls? What exactly is she spelling out!?

>>3782355
Yeah it’s a harem game

Reminder that three games, 4 updated re-releases and soon to be two full remakes later and no Nusona game has ever made a character as close to good as Lisa or Ulala.

>>3777258
All the Nusona casts are MC Dicksuckers Inc.

>>3775358 (OP)
>best story
don't care
>best cast
3
>best MC
don't care
>best visuals
don't care
>best music
don't care
>best gameplay
don't care

persona 3 has the best girl in it so it clears automatically

>>3775358 (OP)
>best story
>best cast
>best MC
>best visuals
>best music
>best gameplay
The game with Aigis wins all categories by default.
>>3777258
You never played P3 if you think that

>>3783013
>Persona 3 doesn’t have characters that immediately suck your dick
>posts a persona 3 character that immediately sucks your dick is obviously the one he’s most attracted to
very ironic post

Retards like to go on about how
>only p3 has companions that don't suck your dick
Which is not only wrong in regards to P3, but the only one that does that in 4 is Rise and the one closest to doing that in P5 is Futaba, because she's a shut in.

only the first three are worth playing at all. the introduction of social links fucking ruined the series.

>>3783147
3 has this effect where people not only overlook it's flaws, but actively praise those flaws as strengths. It's really weird.

>>3783151
The first 3 are not good games at all

>>3775358 (OP)
I know this thread is going to be a shitshow so I'm not reading any of this shit. All non-remake persona games are good in their own right and worth playing. Even the janky old games have their charm.
>best story
P3
>best cast
P3
>best MC
P3 or P2IS
>best visuals
P5
>best music
P3 or P5
>best gameplay
P5 vanilla

>>3783142
>Almost all SEES members (and even some NPCs) aren't that dependent on the protagonist in the same way the cast of P4 and P5 are
>Aigis is very close to the protagonist, with in-story explanations for why she acts that way
Both things can be true.

>>3783197
>I know this thread is going to be a shitshow
can't hear you through all the crying
>p3fag
checks out

P2 is excellent and the only problem is their refusal of packaging both remasters IS/EP with a new translation. P5 is the most engaging due to platforming stealth

>>3783181
at least they're proper megaten and and just high school simulators.

>>3783286
*not just high school simulators

>>3783209
>>Almost all SEES members (and even some NPCs) aren't that dependent on the protagonist in the same way the cast of P4 and P5 are
Which isn't true. Take P5 as an example.
Ryuji and Ann aren't. In terms of operations the protag is simply more competent (i.e. not an idiot like Ryuji) so mostly runs the show along with Morgana
Akechi isn't. Yusuke isn't. Makoto isn't and even upset some people because she also starts helping in running the show with the protag.
Haru doesn't and even starts by doing her own thing.
Futaba is the only one you can claim is dependant (altough more so Sojiro) but for good reason since she was a NEET.

It's a retarded meme idiots parrot without actually thinking about it or even having played the game.

>>3783216
>P5 stealth
>Engaging

>>3783442
Compared to how enemies in the field is handled in other JRPGs, Persona's execution is lightyears better. Not to mention the dungeon design.

>>3783443
>Getting auto-ambush on every single enemy allowing you wipe every non-boss encounter before they even get a chance to attack is good execution
I will admit that the old "run behind them and then press button" isn't very exciting, but it is at least a functional gameplay mechanic with a possibility of failure unlike "press a button to be invulnerable, then wait until the opponent is in the same postal code as you and then press a button to teleport behind them" that P5 has.

>>3783450
P5 has designed scenarios where there often aren't corners or things to hide behind and attack from. Not to mention things like security level and such.
It has more going on and is overall better designed than other JRPGs.

And there is zero risk in other JRPGs. Usually you just need to hit them with a field attack first, not even in the back. They also just waddle around randomly in large spaces, usually with poor sight ranges.

>>3783450
>a functional gameplay mechanic
Not an RPG mechanic.

>>3783286
Why are you mad because the SMT spin off doesn't play like mainline SMT? Just don't play it at all bruh, it's not like Atlus stopped making SMT to focus only on Persona.

>>3782355
>Does...does the MC canonically fuck all these girls?
Yeah you're an American aren't you? Let me tell you something, Japanese girls are not like American high school sluts. They don't spread it for every guy that gives them attention like Gwen and Melissa do. The MC didn't canonically "fuck" any of these girls, he actually doored a virgin.

>>3782355
>does the MC canonically fuck all these girls?
Unironically he does in the PS2 versions

>>3775358 (OP)
>best story
Between IS and 3
>best cast
1
>best MC
Yuu or 1 has the more charisma and Minato and Tatsuya has the best story.
Maya could be if her game has her personality >best visuals
Probably 5
>best music
Original 1 or P3
>best gameplay
Between Persona 3R or 5Royal.

>>3775358 (OP)
>best story
3 easily
>best cast
4
>best MC
2 (Tatsuya)
>best visuals
3
>best music
4 and its not even close
>best gameplay
5

>>3783513
>Let me tell you something, Japanese girls are not like American high school sluts.
Fucking Kek!

>>3782355
It's heavily implied he does, particularly in 3 but it's also open to interpretation.

>>3789221
>instead of thinking for myself I will post an 8 year old screenshot someone else took and then put on reddit, which of course I saved, and use that instead
Bruh kill yourself already, they’re no negatives and only positives.

>>3778038
>You miss like battle and background audio which is not translated.

Oh wow, I'll miss out on Chie going GANBARE! or whatever.

>>3789221
Holy tertiary, Nyx was not created by humanity’s will at all. Not to mention that Nyarlatothep was created by humanities will. What an embarrassing screenshot

>>3789576
I thought Nyx was created by humanity's desire for an end to all things?

>>3789650
Okay, I looked it up, and apparantly that is not the case. Nyx is CALLED by humanity's desire for death, not CREATED by it. I'd call that close enough, though.

>>3775358 (OP)
>>best story
P4
>>best cast
P4
>>best MC
P5
>>best visuals
P5
>>best music
P4
>>best gameplay
P4

>>3775358 (OP)
>best story
P2:EP. Nice culmination. I prefer when persona has a bittersweet ending, feels like an appropriate trade off for the lighter tone than mainline.

>Best cast
in terms of total cast EP. nice mix of old and new characters. for just the main party i have a soft spot for 1 because unlike the others theirs feels more like a wide community of people rather than a small dependant friend group. P4 is up there but i think rise and naoto are duds.

>Best MC
Tatsuya. vague enough to imprint onto but specific enough to make him interesting.

>Best Visuals
P4 vanilla. Love the countryside setting, stands out amongst all the cities.

>Best music
P1 original soundtrack.

>Best gameplay
p5 is the most refined of the formula but 1 has a satisfying progression.