why does the enhanced version look so fucking bad

>>3775576 (OP)
>ai upscaling
>adjustments to the story
F

>The only thing left from the Nvidia leak is FF9 Remake

>>3775582
That "remake" was the remaster that came out years ago.

PC babby here.
Where is my steam version

>>3775576 (OP)
>Chronicles, a name that makes it sound like a collection
>Instead of the 3 games in the series it’s just 2 scripts of the same game
Yawn

be honest, do you think a stealth ff7r scenario AGAIN would be funny or stupid? i'd love to see them fucking do it just for the lols

>>3775682
I want to see them have a try at it at least.
I know it will be seethfest considering how FFT boomers hated FFTA hahahaha
As long as it didnt get turned into an actionslog

>>3775613
already announced

>>3775691
Apparently in this version Ramza comes out as trans and Delita is cucked. Orlandu is also a closet furry and they rag on him about it once they find out.

>not using the sovlfvl jank-ass engrish translation of the PSX original
L i t t l e i n t e r e s t

>>3775745
Based. WOTL translation is shakespearean wannabe garbage that pseudo intellectuals lap up. LOL

That aside I was hoping maybe not exact same with. Just fix up the typos and grammar, but keep the same wording.

>>3775576 (OP)
Shitfilter applied to all textures.

>>3775618
They clearly want to pave the way for cheaply produced and highly priced "successors". I agree, they should've released all three games for 80 and sell it few weeks later for 30 to me.

>>3775750
What's the best translation? I never played any version. I had the impression that the psp has the best translation. Which is the to go version, psx?

>>3775576 (OP)
Switch will probably have the full game on cartridge. I wouldn't be surprised if the switch 2 version is a game key card. I wonder how long in the next Gen we'll see switch 1 getting the superior physical port of a game?

>>3775793
PSP. PS1 has an Engrish translation. The PSP version filters ESLs and people who don't read books.

>>3775826
Isn't psp wotl?
>>3775750
Is it true, are you esl?

>>3775793
It’s a tradeoff one way or another.

PSX translation has way stronger lines that you’ll fondly remember, and the characterization is stronger. If you prefer plain speaking over ye olde english imitation then there’s that aspect too. However some of the exposition dumps are frankly kind of mangled, which in a game that already has tons of characters and moving pieces really isn’t great.

In later versions you’ll never be confused about whats happening in the story due to the translation. However the script is way, way less ‘punchy’ than before. The character dialogues feel much weaker.

I prefer the original translation, many recommend the new one. They both have their pros and cons.

>>3775847
Good to know, thanks. The way I see it, is that expo dumps are a small price to pay for a decent amount of strong lines. Pretty sure that japs will never capture ye older English correctly, esp in a game full of text. Convoluted story telling (psx) is a small price to pay for strong characters. If psp is censored, that's cancer and hence a no go.
It's mind boggling how devs appease the masses and try to stretch games with filler, useless info and of course cheap power fantasies. It would be nice if there would be great games with no rush, no meme economics (honey more expensive than weapons) and no filler text dumps and no trash mob fests.

>>3775826
>>3775852
The way these pseuds so proud of their pretentiousness lmao

>>3775829
ESL or not if you really think that using ye olde English is that essential for playing JRPGs maybe you should go back to read books.

>>3775855
>ye olde English is that essential
I do not. In fact, I am doubting japs nailing ye olde English. It likely sounds wonky and awkward. I would like some devs trying to get the tone right.

>>3775855
>go back to read books
lol

>>3775865
>I am doubting japs nailing ye olde English
Dragon's Dogma nailed it.
>>3775793
I like the original PSX translation because that's how I first played the game when it came out, and I'm fond of it for that reason. It is indeed janky Engrish but it has memorable and classic lines. It's how I remember the game, and I am not interested in some hand-held portable port's re-translation that I've never played before. I watched 3 seconds of the remaster trailer and went ehhhhhh. I'd rather just emulate the PSX version.

>>3775930
I wouldn't sya nailed it, but it's acceptable, sure.
>psx
Think so, too. It's not priced 60 usd and it works just fine. Glad I can play fft and don't have to wait for a butchered version. Made that mistake with luct and honestly, the snes version of luct is better, despite the luct remaster not being total crap.

>>3775745
as someone who grew up playing it for hundreds of hours you're a fucking retard

>>3775576 (OP)
I cannot wait for the third installment of the Remake/Rebirth/??? part of FF7. All the contrarian shills whining and crying about how they wanted a 1:1 remaster of the game and how it failed because it wasn't just that have been surprisingly quiet about this 1:1 remaster/remake of Tactics. Hypocritical cunts.

>>3775944
Enjoy your “updated story”, buddy.

>>3775946
>updated as in improved
Kek'd

>>3775946
I enjoyed the War of the Lions translation quite a bit but you wouldn't know that existed you fucking tourist

>>3775948
>I actually prefer the little-known PSP port, but you probably haven’t heard of it
Bro

>>3775852
You do you but there are a lot of lines mistranslated in the original and lines that completely miss the point of the character. It's both a rough job and a rough translation.
The other translation is much better in the quality department but only a bit better at being a good translation at conveying meaning.
The amount of punchy lines is often exaggerated as well as how flowery the other translation is. The point about commoners not talking as flowery as nobility stands however.
Censoring hasn't come into play so far but we shall see with this current remaster.
If i were you, i'd look into a patch that fixes the obvious mistakes of the original, or simply go with the new translation. I can't honestly recommend the original as is.

>>3775960
Idk, I liked luct reborn, despite it being worse in some points. Overall it's a smoother experience, but they did censor content and nerf some units or jobs and implemented aritificial difficulty.
Pretty sure this will be the case here, too. A psp version with mechanical tweaks and likely new jobs and items added. 60 usd is a steep price tag for a 30y old game.

>>3775969
>luct reborn
What does that have to do with anything?

>>3775946
I know Japs bizarrely like to include anti-racism and social justice themes in their JRPGs, but I don't remember this in tactics at all.
Ramza spends most of the game in a psychedelic trip fighting against literal demons from outer space, which is hardly sober social commentary.
Delita didn't really have a problem with the social order as such, he was just an outsider who craved it for himself and ends up getting stabbed in the end despite getting everything he wanted, suggesting it is the human condition itself that is the source of evil rather than mere social imbalances.
The only "social injustice" character I really remember is Algus who is a cartoonishly sadistic caricature of nobility and is nonetheless contrasted against Ramza who is himself a noble.

>>3775979
>Delita didn't really have a problem with the social order as such
lol

>>3775984
He doesn't abolish the social order and doesn't abolish privilege, he just seizes it for himself.

>>3775985
Yes but that wasn't his original ideal. He was remembered as a very good King so he must have tried his best although by the end it's obvious he has become bitter and jaded.

https://youtu.be/lrENuxiu8MU?t=862

>>3775979
>>3775987
The human condition angle is actually more profound than le social justice one.

>>3775989
By the end, yes. Many people are unable to stay absolutely true to their past ideals. Both intention and how you go about it ends up mattering.

>>3775979
>most of the game in a psychedelic trip fighting against literal demons from outer space
not really bro it's like 3 battles

"Adjustments to the story" sounds bad but it's almost definitely going to be expansion of the Durai report or whatever the lore codex thing was. Maybe an extra scene or two that adds some ultimately unimportant lore stuff.

>>3775990
That's because EVERYBODY is in a constant flux, ebb and flow, of evolution and development on a tiny scale that nobody really acknowledges. You are not the same person you were yesterday. You are a slice in time that is similar but different. How different depends on what you experienced over the course of time and what changes you may have made, along with the changes in your physiology that occur constantly. A lot of these little ones you're not aware of.

To get philosophical about it look up the Ship of Theseus. It's a thought experiment that encapsulates the ideas I'm presenting.

The story is fine as it is.
The two things I really wanted are:
>jobs balancing
>new jobs

>>3776011
The story is fine but it would be nice to have more of it. It was intriguing enough that having expounded upon it would have been a great thing.

I would love to see new jobs and new side missions, as well as new characters. If I were ever in charge of gaming development I would be on point with everything. I know what gamers generally want and need and what would sell.

>>3776015
>expounded
?
>new content
That's a given, tourist-kun.
>would be on point with everything.
I'm certain.

>>3775576 (OP)
I like the shining and thick outlines that Japan has started to adopt in pixel art. I think they should go that route, or employ some autistic Western studio for the port. Since Westerners have perfected pixel art

>>3776020
>Since Westerners have perfected pixel art
Since when and why?
>fftr
Is this even pixel art or low poly or lofi

I don't understand why people think it looks bad.

>>3776077
It looks like a lazy AI upscale even some fans are able to do.

I haven't used my steam account in 7 years. I hope it's good enough for me to bother or i'll keep modding the original.

Why would you buy this instead of emulating the PS1 version or WotL? Honest question.

>>3776095
Small QoL things like seeing the turn order at all times
Speed Up function that doesn't mess with the music
Voice acting if you're into it
Modern aspect ratio
Harder difficulty mode
New scenarios and story adjustments

I think this is it so far. No idea about the actual quality of the implementation of these features mind you. Some could be good or bad.

>>3776099
Psx is free and this will be 60 bucks. On top of it, you can mod psx games on pc, and play Dino crisis, parasite eve and of course obscure games like jade cocoon and rule of the rose.

>>3776102
It's probably not worth it yes.

>>3776103
I paid the price for luct and must say, it's not even worth 10 bucks. It's a decent remaster, but they changed parts that didn't need change and didn't change parts that needed change. 100 stories dungeon, looking at you.

>>3776080
Valid. I will say I've played some upscaled games of fft specifically (both on ps1 and psp versions), and they function like trash. that said, they're free so i can empathize to a point with people not wanting to pay money for it

https://youtu.be/esIiymsQHEQ?t=28

Nice lightsaber sounds. Can't believe they fucked up the sound effects again.

>>3776110
Much worse than luctr

>>3776110
It’s a complete disaster.
The graphics remind me of that infamous FF6 mobile port.
Can’t wait to hear more about the “story adjustments”
SE made us wait all these years for this??

>>3776112
YoshiP will add Wuk Lamat

>>3776112
Some clown greenlit this. This was approved by a high potential and an overperformer. Budget was allocated to this.

>>3775576 (OP)
>Yet another shovelware port.
SaGa, FFT, Front Mission – Why won't Squeenix make a new game for any of these IPs?
I hate this so much.

>>3776154
they did for saga last year what u mean

>>3776154
We got a new SaGa a year ago, it was pretty cool. SaGa might be down to once a decade bit when it happens it's good. Plus about the only worthwhile remasters in the industry.

SaGa fans are eating as well or better as they ever were

>>3776105
It's okay that you are wrong. I still love you.

>>3776099
I like that there's a higher difficulty mode. Is it NG+ or can you select from the start? Where did you get that list? I only saw a video. I haven't seen actual writing about it yet.

New scenarios is nice and hopefully the story adjustments are good ones, and not tiny, but more epic or intriguing interplays of the story and character interactions.

>>3776163
That's kind and all, but what are you saying? That the luct remaster is better than the snes version? Blue cards are near game breaking.

>>3776165
https://www.square-enix-games.com/en_US/news/final-fantasy-tactics-the-ivalice-chronicles

Now that i'm reading it, it might just be an easier difficulty and no harder one.

>>3776154
Maybe they’re testing the waters with this remaster to see if there’s demand, so you all better buy it, gringos.

This screenshot got deleted from steam's page.
Seems like they want to avoid talks about Onion Knight and Dark Knight not being available.

>>3776110
>Nice lightsaber sounds
i think it's a mixing defect from the video, as they're lowering the volume on the speaker's channel and bringing it up on that of the game clip.

Man, I'm having a hard time staying optimistic about this because I really do not trust Yoshi P or the FF16 team with any story adjustments. I did feel a little baited when a friend messaged me about this announcement and I thought it was a collection of games. Would also be nice to have the PSX script and the WoTL script in one game soe people can compare and have fun with both. It says it has the gameplay of the PSX version but does that mean they're leaving out the classes added from WoTL?

>>3776183
I read it that way too. They even called the new difficulty option "Squire."

>>3776234
I can only hope

>>3776229
Are they officially not available, or is that maybe just a screenshot before they get unlocked? I would imagine they want to keep those ones secret for those who don't know, they're not usually advertised right out the gate.

>>3776242
>before they get unlocked
A bit hard to imagine especially for Onion Knight since she seems to have every job at level 8 maxed.

>>3776235
I hope it has all of the extra content from WoTL. There were extra battles and side missions, weren't there? I know Onion Knight and Dark Knight were in WoTL as well. I'm hoping they are in here.

>>3776237
If they allow you to adjust down I don't see why they wouldn't also allow you to adjust up. Let's hope there is a harder difficulty, I really want that. Ideally not gated behind NG+ either, I like to be able to choose right from the start.

>>3776244
The only content i actively dislike from WotL was the Algus rematch.

>>3776243
Ah I missed that, I hope you're wrong though. :(

>>3776246
I don't even remember that to be honest with you. I played WoTL only once and it was so long ago, and I've played so much since then. Plus did lots of drugs, so that might weigh in on memory.

>>3776245
Adjusting down can be easily made in an "unfair" way like you doing more damage and taking less.
People that want to play for the story won't mind being unfair to the game and the game doesn't care.
You can't really do the same for a higher difficulty because it seems very lazy and horrible when the game plays by different rules.
Best case scenario is for the AI to have better formations and job combos for the maps and that is some effort.

>>3776249
He gets revived as a zombie at some point and you kill him again. Felts super cheap and pointless.

>>3776247
I hope so too, even if i've played as either of these jobs a total of 2 times.

>>3775576 (OP)
>AI upscaling
>instead of using veteran western animation VAs like FF12 they're using modern anime dubbers who do Anime Guy Voice but with a Bongoloid accent

>>3775723
>Orlandu is also a closet furry and they rag on him about it once they find out.
>TG Cid
>not the tranny

>>3776280
same thing happened for Tactics Ogre

>>3775985
Because Matsuno actually studies politics, history and such and knows that often times when revolutionaries come to power, "overthrowing the old order" usually turns into a case of meet the new boss, same as the old boss. And usually worse because the chaos unleashed by a revolution usually requires authoritarian methods to quell. Delita went in with genuine motives but once he got into the weeds he, like so many other power siezing revolutionaries, became the same monster he was fighting.

>>3776244
>I hope it has all of the extra content from WoTL.
It won't, I guarantee it. It's going to be like the rest of these remasters Squeenix has done the last few years like the Pixel Remasters where it's basically just the original with a new coat of paint and none of the bonus elements from the various portable 2000s rereleases.

>>3776283
The va isn't as bad, come now. Admittedly, it's not great either.

>>3775577
The terrain textures don't look like AI upscaling, it just looks like some "pixels are the devil" smear
If it were AI upscaled it would add detail.

>>3776386
Arguably, the VA will probably be better for FFT, they have Ben Starr now

>>3776409
What I've heard in the trailer is trash. The game has the psp version with qol and the updated version. Both seem subpar to the psx version.

>>3775576 (OP)
Because they legitimately just used the 2XHQ filter and called it a day.

>replaced blame god, with "blame father"

>>3775804
>I wouldn't be surprised if the switch 2 version is a game key card.
Yup.
https://www.nintendolife.com/news/2025/06/final-fantasy-tactics-physical-switch-release-has-a-free-switch-2-upgrade

>The Switch 2 release is a code in a box

>>3776280
Who gives a single shit about a western dub? It's like critiquing the font used on the steam page, utterly irrelevant.

>>3776428
>>replaced blame god, with "blame father"
Seriously?

>>3776420
>The game has the psp version with qol
It seems like it's not even the PSP version desu.

>>3776428
>>3776545
It was God in the PSX version. Then it became gods in WotL. Now the Father. What is the angle here?

>>3776549
https://youtu.be/lrENuxiu8MU?t=252
https://youtu.be/sSC0eQdzM20?t=25

No idea what they are doing. Where is WotL's cutscene?

>>3776549
I'll try to elaborate on my own theory. Matsuno, even as he shows himself to be an inveterate commie in the recent note >>3775698, is now trying to push even harder to the point of beating one over one's head, the analogy between the Church of Glabados and Christianity, Saint Ajora and Jesus, while taking advantage of a certain anti-clerical and anti-patriarchal interpretation of Freud by certain anti-capitalist and feminist authors that associates the figure of the father with capitalism.

>>3776554
Based schizo

>>3776549
Post original nip.

>>3776558
ゴルターナ軍騎士: 悪いな…。恨むなら自分か神様にしてくれ。

>>3776560
Either gods of god, depending on the context, i guess. Maybe they were going for "Our Father, who art in heaven..." but that sounds weird here.

>>3776562
It does. This remake is overall suspicious on many fronts.

>>3776562
…我ら罪深きイヴァリースの子らが神々の御力により救われんことを。

This is the princess praying before getting kidnapped by the Knight.

>>3776110
Wow they took that video down?

>>3776604
One day into the announcement and they're already doing damage control?
Did the video show the job list without Onion Knight and Dark Knight? See >>3776229

>>3776608
No the video didn't have anything for that.
But it had in-game sound and someone pointed out how bad the sound effect was.

>>3776562
I thought the 様 at the end meant it was referring to a single entity? Is it really used in the context of multiple gods?

>>3776623
It's Japanese anon. You have to extrapolate a lot of meaning. I would go with a single entity because of it but i also wouldn't be surprised if it could be taken to also mean many.

>>3776547
2 versions according to the newest trailer, remaster and war of lions.

>>3776627
>war of lions.
There are missing parts from WotL so it's not exactly that.

I'm thinking I might actually give fft a go, but I'm not going to touch some shitty smoothed out pixel "remaster" with a 10-foot pole. I'm gathering that both PS1 and WotL have their points when it comes to the translation, but what about gameplay? I understand that WotL has some extra missions and stuff but that doesn't matter to me so much. Does it have any meaningful gameplay improvements, like fixing bugs, adjusting difficulty or does it play identically to the PS1 version?

>>3776641
Outside of the translation and some sidequests they play pretty similarly.

WotL has 2 more jobs but they are a bit gimmicky as well as hard to unlock.
WotL is based on the original Japansese version where abilities cost a bit more to unlock, specific boss equipment was unsteal-able and some spells were slower to cast.
The English version of the original changed those but ultimately it doesn't matter too much.

I guess another "gameplay" factor is that the PSP port butchered the sound effects and introduced slowdown on spells and spell-like abilities when cast. The slowdown is fixable but the sound effects are not.

>>3776628
How do you know?

>>3775576 (OP)
Because it was done cheap and fast at the expense of quality to rush it out the door and make SE some money.

>>3776674
There is nothing from WotL yet apart from them mentioning they used the script for the Classic version.

>>3776677
There are two playable versions in the remaster. You select them from the start.

>>3776678
Ok?
We still have seen 0 WotL content and sometimes where you'd expect it to be like cutscenes or job trees.
Saying the classic version is the WotL version doesn't seem correct. Unless the Enchanted version is the one without the cutscenes.

>>3776682
There's a new trailer highlighting this. The narrator says that the classic version is the wotl version and qol features like auto save.

>>3776684
You mean the one they took down? She just mentioned the WotL script if anything about WotL i think.

>>3775576 (OP)
So they are remaking Tactics to give it the 2D-HD aesthetic like Octopath Traveler?

>>3776686
Did they? Iirc she said it has the gameplay of the original and it's based on the wotl. Unsure, as I didn't pay too much attention. I won't get the remaster, for like a dozen reasons.

>>3776695
Well we can't check since video is down.
What do you make of things like this?
This wasn't an in-game cutscene in WotL.

>>3776694
Lol, no

>>3776696
Idk, I don't see the necessity for a remaster. They will fuck with balance, classes, translations and the like. There's literally no reason to play the remastered version as high res mods for older games. It's a shameless cash grab.

>>3776701
If they do i good job i can see it replacing all other editions. But they probably aren't gonna
.

>>3776702
>they probably aren't gonna
Unfortunately

>>3775576 (OP)
Can we just get a tactics game each year?

>>3776698
What the Fuck do you mean no? Why are they remastering it then!?

>>3776709
It's a remaster, not a remake. Remake is usually remade from scratch. The one they will charge you 60 bucks is just an ai upscale, low effort.

>>3775576 (OP)
you know which FF game is slept on ? FF 12

Goddamn there are already videos from shills that go:
"Is there really cut content? Well nothing is confirmed BUT EVEN IF IT IS WELL THAT'S NOT SO BAD GUYS IT DOESN'T MATTER OK?"
I don't even care about WotL much but holy shit.

>>3776747
Squeenix knows it can shit on our heads because this kind of people will eat up, gorge themselves on the sludge that comes out of their giant corporate sewage pipe.

>>3776554
Feminism is such a fucking joke.

>>3776676
>cheap and fast
Nvidia leak was 4 fucking years ago so it has at minimum been in the works for that long

>>3776549
>Then it became gods in WotL
IIRC in the PSP version it was "Tis your birth and faith that wrong you, not I" which makes no fucking sense.

>>3776562
>>3776567
Post FF12, Ivalice's religion is established to be polytheistic, worshipping a pantheon headed by Faram, the Father, who is heavily implied to be Gerun of the Occuria.

>>3776883
That's not how this works

>>3776747
"Gamer ragebait" content now infecting FFT

>>3775576 (OP)
The biggest problem is the price, 60 bucks is insane for a touched up re-release

>>3776985
Maybe it's a really souped up re-release (extremely doubtful)

>>3776985
It's 50 but this kinda shit should be 20 at most

>>3776696
https://www.jp.square-enix.com/fft_tic/
I think they took everything down from the west. The Japanese website still has everything, including the Agrias job tree screenshot that was removed from the Steam store page.

>>3777144
Seems so. I still can't find that "Everything you need to know" or whatever video.

>>3776951
4 years of development time =
0.5 years of programming +
3.5 years of Matsuno the notorious hack tinkering with the script on his computer in MS Word as he "works from home"

>>3777153
>3.5 years of Matsuno the notorious hack tinkering with the script on his computer in MS Word as he "works from home"
You all know what's coming next, right? It was already implied in the OG. Saint Ajora was a male, yet he needs Alma Beoulve's body in order to reincarnate... then they become a hot fallen angel??

>>3777230
>Jesus figure was male
>woke woke
>Jesus figure was female
>woke woke

There is no escape from retardation.

>>3777237
>There is no escape from retardation.
What do you mean? I thought all phenomenon was socially constructed and you can reshape the world by dictate. You should be able to cure our retardation very easily by issuing a new law and writing a new textbook.

I'm gonna go out on a limb and say that luso, balthier, onion knight, dark knight and all the other WotL exclusive stuff will be dlc at some point.

If the modder for the Tweak WotL applies the same mods from the psp to this version, I would consider this a perfect definitive game right here.

>>3777384
I'll take that over it not being in there at all.

Really overblowing the story adjustments, when it could just be removing Luso and Balthier's segments while adding someone like Clive since his VA does work on this project,

It seems like gamers are really getting excited over this remaster! We are literally hyping each other up and hi-fiving over it because we have been waiting so long!

Skip this demaster and just emulate the PS1 original.

>>3775979
You're genuinely just low IQ. I'm not even trying to insult you, this is an objective observation.

>>3776110
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LDzOxmjHCuE
Somebody saved it

>>3777758
Maybe they took it down because in the 24s mark the upper screen says "Enhanced Enhanced" when it should say "Enhanced Version". That would be reason enough to remove the video if I had made it.

>>3777767
Didn't catch that. Maybe.

>>3776229
oof.

>>3776229
Hmm, Jap site still has it
https://www.jp.square-enix.com/fft_tic/system

>>3776229
What the fuck do you mean not being available!?

>>3777852
They don't seem available in that screenshot. Do they unlock and appear in some other way? Who knows. But they also could have just been removed. In general we have seen nothing from the extra content WotL had added.

>>3777855
we cant say because the layout in which you choose your job is now different

>>3777885
For sure we don't know yet. It's just little things adding up like some voices missing from credits like Balthier, it being listed as a single player game or seeing previously animated cutscenes randered in-game again.

Not having Dark Knight for generics isn't a deal breaker, but it would suck ass if they cut it. Onion Knight, don't give a shit about. With the TO Remaster they cut Rogue because stealing equipment didn't factor in anymore, but there's no reason to cut Dark Knight

>>3777966
I honestly don't mind if they cut all of WotL's content if they are going to add something substantial to the game instead like a Delita mini campaign. But if they cut it only to add minor shit then they can go fuck themselves.

Since Matsuno wasn't involved with WotL, is it possible that he threw a fit with the Mustadio/Agrias ship?

>>3777990
he would have said something long ago if there was a problem with it, he left in 2006 while WotL came out in 2007 but he's worked with SE since then, just not for them.

>>3775793
PS1 is closer to what they're actual saying because unlike FF12 (where the translator worked alongside Matsuno as the game was being made so it all sounding Shakesperean was directorial intent), characters in FFT talk in a very blunt, matter-of-fact way. But it also just has straight up translation errors that don't exist in the PSP version.
Also people who call the PSP version faux-shakespeare, have never actually read shakespeare. No, it just sounds overly flowery in its prose, which shakespeare actually very rarely did.

Ultimately the steam version looks like it's trying to hit a middle ground.

>>3775991
Nta but this is something Matsuno loves, to show complex political machinations only to pull out the rug from under you and go SURPRISE MOTHERFUCKER, IT WAS ALIENS/DEMONS THE WHOLE TIME

Why did they never make a Chocobo knight? Or at least let you normal attack on chocobos?

>Not on steam
>Ramza gets a white armor color change for the deluxe version.
What did they mean by this?

>>3777967
Would love if you could recruit Delita instead. Dude is badass.

>>3778064
But you can attack from on top of chocobos, can't you? I swore I always had Ramza on a black chocobo because it can fly, thus letting him ignore terrain?

>>3778074
That's the preorder bonus on steam.

>>3777885
The game probably allows you to modify the job selection screen somehow.

>>3778174
Above menu seems to be what comes up if you press X below

>>3777531
Very ironic post

>>3776112
this made me think of the terry gilliam cartoons in monty python

I honestly wouldn't mind if they left off the PSP content, it's mostly just bonus missions for cameos, and yes Cloud was in original FFT but he was also a shit-tier unit with a garbage unique job.

FFT ended up being pro-feudalist
Ramza, Barbaneth, Cid, and Olan followed true chivalry, "We are privileged because we are servants of justice" and ended up defeating the genuine evil. Delita fought for social change and ended up just shifting evil around and being saved by Ramza. The failures of the feudal system were because of failed men like Dycedarg. It's a rightwing tale.

>>3778195
But Delita was known in history as a great and righteous king, he buried in the history books all his actions of being a backstabbing tyrant-in-waiting who only succeeded because of Ramza's actions in the background.

>>3778195
I wish Wiegraf got away somehow and came back as an uber-suberboss or something. That dude was the best villain in the game, easily. And his transformation is fucking badass looking, easily the most terrifying one.

>>3778202
there's no actual ivalice anon. it's a right wing tale for the only people that actually exist - us

and that reminds me, the whole framing device is that "eventually the truth will win" when leftism thinks truth is completely subservient to power. every schoolboy of the british empire learned "Magna est veritas et praevalebit"

>>3778228
>there's no actual ivalice anon
No that's FFTA, the Ivalice in FFT is confirmed to be the same one that's in FF12 and Vagrant Story. And 12 is an utter rejection of nobility playing chess with the world while the common man suffers around him because of his machinations. That's the whole point of the Occuria and "history's reins back in the hands of man" because as much as they act like Gods above the rest of us, the reality is these interdimensional aliens are just human nobles with a different look, believing those lesser than them are just pawns in their Great Game.
This is why Vaan is actually important to have as the game's point of view character and why Balthier the "hero" is a disgraced Judge that ran from his noble responsibilities. As commoners they reject the Great Game, because they've seen what it does to everyone below. It's why everyone in the party except Ashe are those society has rejected and left to rot, because not being bound by society's expectations means they're truly free. And it's why Ashe's character arc is about rejecting destiny for the uncertainty of freedom.

>>3778252
In other words it's glaringly obvious that it was written by a Japanese salaryman in a cubicle.

>>3778207
He did, though? Fucker has ended more runs of FFT than any other boss

>>3778299
A country that actually experienced an insanely rigid heirarchy, doesn't like the idea of it? Yeah who'd have thought.

>>3778207
Wiegraf really carries FFT alot - honestly other than Dycedarg the villains were pretty weak

>>3778303
He didn't get away, he dies.

>>3778478
Agreed. I would love it if somehow Wiegraf held on and transformed again later or some crap. Dycedarg was okay but a little too "hipster" for me with that beard. I felt like he should have been foaming a latte or something.

>>3775576 (OP)
>remaster/remake loaded with shitty modern ui and fonts that look like garbage

Many such cases…just play the original or the psp port

I was reading the game's script today and there is something that confuses me. Gaffgarion is working for Dycedarg, but he is also working with Draclau and Rudvich. Then Draclau is suddenly working with Vormav and Delita. Dycedarg mentions that he already planned to ensure that Gaffgarion could get Ovelia and Agrias at Lionel. Is there a point in the game where it is revealed that they are all working together? Who switched sides? It was not Draclau, so were Gaffgarion and Dycedarg duped and Draclau was being a double agent?

>>3780007
I like your mindbrain. I'm too tired to speculate or formulate any theory, but good on you for paying attention to the writing.

>>3778314
Ahh, a fellow expert in Japanese culture. Ko-ni-chi-wa, my fellow traveler. Heh, these gaijin really don't understand feudal Japan at all. Quite funny really.

>>3780007
Gaffgarion is a backstabbing manwhore playing every side.

>>3778195
Its not. Delita is depicted as a corrupt and fallen man for having immersed himself in a world of treachery on his path to the crown. Ramza literally casts off his nobility and embraces true chivalry in the sense of virtue, not status. By the end of the game he's lost all status he once had which he sacrificed for holding onto his ideal of chivalry. He only inherits his fathers soul, not his status, basically every character that is privileged in some way is either morally bankrupt like Delita or throws away status by joining the heretic Ramza. I think thats not very pro-feudalist, as the game ultimately says that true virtue is not rewarded or signified by privilege, nobility or status, Ramza ends up thankless and dishonored for years and only has his name restored posthumously.

>>3780340
Ramza was free to pursue true virtue only because of his privilege. Black and Brown bodies engaged in toil don't even have that as an option.

>>3780365

>>3780365
Ramza throws away his noble status and becomes a sellsword. By the time he starts acting in the name of justice he already reduced himself to a nobody in terms of privilege and his one attempt to make use of his familiy ties ends in failure as his brothers reject him. Maybe you could argue that his noble upbringing let him learn swordsmanship in the first place but thats irrelevant when any other commoner can join Ramzas cause as a generic unit who can be just as capable.

>>3780340
>true chivalry in the sense of virtue
That is feudalism.

>>3780409
He is privileged because of his background, it isn't something he can just "throw away" he was literally molded by privilege, every action he ever takes forever afterwards is colored by this original sin of privilege and while he can never be cleansed fully of this, direct reparations and systemic social justice could help alleviate the disparate outcomes.

>>3780418
No, that is not feudalism by definition. Ramza embraces virtue independent of any kind of profit or status it might give him, and the result is that he falls to the status of a criminal which clearly shows that the game doesnt correlate virtue with class.
>>3780439
>he was literally molded by privilege, every action he ever takes forever afterwards is colored by this original sin of privilege
This is right in the sense Ramza's priveleged upbringing informs his motivation of trying to overcome the corrupt systems that he naively accepted at the beginning. Much like how Delita goes from peasant to king Ramza goes from noble to commoner and from knight to heretic. Even if their backgrounds as commoners or nobles define their initial upbringing and worldview both characters spend the game traveling past the boundaries set by their class to show that it isnt absolute. You might call Ramza's actions informed by privilege he wielded in the past but you would be wrong to say that he still enjoys that privilege past chapter 1 because he de facto doesnt have it anymore by that point.
>direct reparations and systemic social justice could help alleviate the disparate outcomes
Ramza literally fights nobles and church officials in what you can easily interpret as an attempt to redeem the past crimes he committed in their name. There is nothing conservative or reactionary about his actions.
I cant agree with your assertion that privilege is somehow essential to Ramza's personality when he clearly develops past that point, nor how you can look at the way class is depicted in FFT and think its pro-feudalist when the normative concepts used to justify feudalism about how nobles deserve their status because of their inherent virtue and excellency are constantly subverted and criticized in FFT. I feel as though you try too hard to seem "smarter" than the game.

>>3780465
You can't develop out of your privilege. Everything you became after was because of your privilege. You were free to be "virtuous" because of the upbringing that was enabled by your privilege. You are literally posting white saviorism. "Ramza uses his privilege to save the poor lesser people and that absolves him of his past participation in the systematic oppression."
Fuck off. Your just another dumb cracker making excuses and trying to avoid real justice.

>>3780480
What is justice to you?

>>3775618
I mean the plot is literally a historian recounting a physical chronicle that was suppressed for political reasons. I kind of get it.

>>3780480
...yeah, the "Empire of Dust" should be used as an essential part of a school cirriculum at this point.

>>3775576 (OP)
it's out already?

>>3780491
This is what Matsuno said the game is about now so I'm just following his interpretation.

>>3780480

>>3780480
>You can't develop out of your privilege. Everything you became after was because of your privilege.
This looks like some ridiculous form of what I can only call sociological essentialism that arose from some confused notion of determinism. You seem to think that just because there is an indirect causal relationship between ones birth into a privileged position and any other given action or event in their life that their privilege may as well be treated like the main cause when this is a ridiculous notion (this mode of logic is only useful in philosophical arguments pertaining to the existence and nature of god and the first causes of the universe). Everything Ramza does is "because" of privilege only in the weakest, most indirect sense, and it is factually wrong to say that his actions are a product of the benefits of his privilege when he already loses his privileged position past chapter 1. Privilege can only be in effect when it is actually benefitting someone, anything outside of that happens in spite of privilege. Ramza literally does not use his privilege past chapter 1, unless you can point to some systemic advantage he receives because of his status past chapter 1.
>You are literally posting white saviorism.
Privilege and oppression in FFT is firmly rooted in class, you ought to stop bringing up race as though it was relevant.
>"Ramza uses his privilege to save the poor lesser people
He cant make use of his priviledge anymore by the time he starts acting in the interest of commoners. Again, Ramza becomes a mercenary past chapter 1, he doesnt have any more systemic power than any other commoner past that point.

You travel a dangerous path promoting that kind of essentialism because it is the same notion that racists use to insinuate that nigger culture makes all black people violent criminals. Unlike nature, nurture isnt absolute, and can be overcome by making an effort to make the latent biases it instills in you conscious.

>>3780465
No. That's your brain on modern resentment politics. Feudalism is just a system of mutual rights and obligations. If you want to talk privilege at all, you want to look at modernity, with the breakdown of feudalism and the rise of the modern State.

>>3780950
If so, what did you mean with
>>true chivalry in the sense of virtue
>That is feudalism.

I was simply arguing against the strange notion that FFT promotes feudalism or supports ideas used to justify feudalism on an ethical level (as insinuated by >>3778195 ).

so this is the designated "midwit kids talk about politics" thread?

>>3775946
There's a lot of shit that could be expanded on. Marquis Elmdore's entire character arc outside of his battles takes place entirely off-screen for example, same with Wiegraf after Ch1, and several other characters who are driving the plot simply don't get the screen time they deserve.

There's also the fact that story characters who join you effectively cease to exist the moment they do, and don't come at me with "technical limitations" bullshit, every secret character is tied to Mustadio being in the party so it was 100% doable.

>>3780999
Nice trips.
They are gonna be adding 0% of any of those things.

>>3777230
>Saint Ajora was a male, yet he needs Alma Beoulve's body in order to reincarnate... then they become a hot fallen angel??
Simply put, both Ajora and Alma are compatible hosts for Ultima, but due to Ajora's death (which trapped Ultima in limbo) the Lucavi needed a new host body and tremendous amounts of bloodshed to resurrect him and Ultima, hence the war.

>>3780950
>mutual rights
Yeah maybe in England, go to Russia and see what feudalism was like, serfdom didn't end there until the 19th century thanks to the Tatar Yoke.

>>3778195
From a discussion on gamefaqs I had years ago.

tl;dr

Knight Errantry as a form of government.

>>3781460

>>3781461

>>3781462

>>3781463

>>3781464

Every FF got its own schizo.

>>3780007
You got it right. Draclau ultimately was working with the Templars to become as like gods with the power of the Zodiac stones. Delita is subservient to Draclau and the Templars, but also has his own interests in mind. I don't think he ever actually betrays them, but as they fall he cares not as they are swept away. Ultimately Delita serves himself and his own ambitions.

>>3780439
kys. I hope you are being ironic. Calling being born from privilege 'The Original Sin' is nothing more than an inverse of privilege itself. You seek to instead make the opposite of privilege, into a new privilege itself. This is the same sin as that of Algus, of placing everything on the status or lack of on one's birth.

Pathetic.

https://www.jp.square-enix.com/fft_tic/
The Japanese website has been updated recently. I've also just realized that there is no English website yet, unless it's this one: https://final-fantasy-tactics-the-ivalice-chronicles.square-enix-games.com/en-us

you're all faggots who will sedoku btw

>>3782544
Pfft. Joke's on you. I suck with numbers.

>>3782514
It's truly worse than the psx version

>>3775576 (OP)
because its just a cash grab lol

So did they really get rid of "Blame yourself or God"? That is one of the hardest hitting lines in the history of RPGs.

>>3783920
They got rid of it over a decade ago

>>3775576 (OP)
Can Yoshi P be stopped? Once again, copying but doing an inferior job

>>3783922
>They got rid of it over a decade ago
I don't know what that means.

>>3789010
It's not in the War of the Lions translation, which released in 2007. 2007 was 18 years ago. A decade is 10 years. 18 > 10, so "Blame yourself or God" was gotten rid of over a decade ago.

>>3789236
Ok yeah I never played that Bullshit. I don't do portable games.

>original and shitty PSP translation included for the screechers
>more Matsuno Written Kino™ (Matskino)
>harder difficulty
I am actually excited and find the rampant assmad to be a fine condiment to my main course in 3 months

>>3790321
Didn't they confirm there's no original translation? It's all WotL

>>3790390
>It's all WotL
We already see from the screenshots and videos that it's not that, it seems to be a brand new translation.
And it seems to be trying to meet the middle between the bruteforced bluntness of the original and the overly flowery WotL.

>>3790391
Matsuno's apparently rewriting the Japanese version to account for the voice acting, so it might be the similar case here.