Is highlighting Final Fantasy Tactics' politically charged narrative a good idea in today's gaming environment?

>>3775698 (OP)
It's FFT. Why else would someone play this game, the gameplay?

Holy fuck it's happening!? I just saw the trailer... YES!!!

>>3775698 (OP)
Please tell me this is fake

>>3775698 (OP)
The will to resist buying a shitty remake of a good game?

Lots of conservaboomers played this game in the past yet didn't complain about the politics because it wasn't politically charged in the first place.
It's more about human nature.

Let me translate this:
>buy this shittu again, purease, we no make good games anymore

>>3775771
Triangle Strategy was great

>>3775698 (OP)
I would buy it (againx2) IF they added story content.
No. Not rewriting the dialogue or hiring new voice actors.
There's like 3 Lucavi demons we never saw.

>>3775781
I'm sure they'll remake it soon. Be patient.

>>3775787
I want to hear all of the changes. I hope there are at least some. I agree with you - the story and lore was so good for that game, I wanted to see more of those Zodiac monsters. They should have fleshed out all of them. End-game content.

>little Anon is triggered by the discovery that politics have always been part of video games
You love to see it.

>>3775698 (OP)
It's more needed than ever.

>>3776021
Not really, desu
Everyone loved those so-called "politics" of FFT just like they loved Game of Thrones

>>3776033
He is talking about the writer of thre article.

Ah, yes, Current Year™, truly in this time of Inequality™ and Division™ you should Buy Product™.

>>3775698 (OP)
Ah yes, it's another episode help overthrow capitalism by being a consoomer.

>>3775698 (OP)
What exactly am I supposed to be angry about? Or should I be happy? Can a direction brainer help me out, because it looks like he's just stating facts

>>3776073
The fact that you aren't angry about continual remakes and focused on the political baiting shows you are a direction brainer yoursefl.

>>3775787
Nah, all the stones were accounted for. The ones that actually got claimed by their respective Lucavi:
>Draclau: Scorpio
>Wiegraf: Aries
>Elmdore: Gemini
>Dycedarg: Capricorn
>Vormav: Leo
>Altima: Virgo

The rest were in your possession and never had a chance to be claimed by Lucavi:
>Taurus: Given by Mustadio
>Cancer: Gained from Construct 7
>Libra: Given by Orlandu
>Sagitarrius: Given by Meliadoul
>Aquarius: Given by Beowulf
>Pisces: Given by Izlude

>>3776125
If you had a stone would you have given it to Ramza or would you have used it to turn into a demon? Be honest. We already know the answer. Your behavior on this board is proof enough.

>>3776064
What the actual fuck are you even saying you mongoloid? Overthrow capitalism by taking part in it and being exact what drives it, a consumer... How retarded are you?

Only answer should be "YES" because you absolutely fucking are.

Love you anon.

>>3775704
fpbp

hard fucking pass

>>3776167
Only it's not me saying it, but Matsuno. Learn to read and understand context, retard.

>>3776174
Nice try Matsuno, I know your tricks.

>>3776173
Both versions are included in the game.

>>3776118
Well that was the OP, faggot

>>3776214
>OP made me react like he wanted me to! Not my fault!
lmao

>>3776173
Man, now that the remaster is a picture instead of a video it does look terrible. What's up with the water? For 60 dollars this does not look worth. I hope I'm wrong but with the FF16 guys and Yoshi P behind it I'm not holding my breath.

>Protest capitalism by giving money to a billion-dollar company.
Isn't this a bit silly?

i don't remember any nuanced politics in FFT. it becomes a backdrop halfway through anyways so what's the issue here? it would be cool if they actually focused on it instead but it's not like it was insanely heavy on the CAPATLISM SUCKS!!!!!! FUCK THE GOVERNMENT!!! WE DONT NEED THE POLICE or whatever. and you guys act like oppression isn't bad that shit's confusing lmfao

It's another episode of "Squareshit turns an easy win into a loss by way of low effort and greed".
The Nvidia leak was 4 years ago. They had 4 years to get it right. That's enough time to make a completely new game, but they preferred to make a modded version with voice acting instead. Bravo!

>>3776506
I dunno, the older audiences of this game is either conservaboomers or leftypol
The latter attaches their overly pretentious drivel to their liking to the game going so far to invent fake quotes as in game screenshots.

>>3776287
Ok. This is epic

What is the point? Why are we all pretending we can't play the original or any of its other remakes?

>>3776612
>What is the point?

>>3776506
Maybe Matsuno has dementia. Or is delusional about the public perception of his body of work.
I mean, I could forgive and understand it if he see FFT and Vagrant Story as the same thing he worked on around the same time. Like maybe the whole Lea Monde thing was FFT's missing chapter.

It's like Kitase being confused about the whole R=U FF8 theory. He only remembers what he wrote, not what actually went out into the world.

>>3776506
It's certainly no Tactics Ogre which was effectively fantasy Yugoslav Wars.

>>3775698 (OP)
I beat the game from start to finish when I was a teenager. I do remember it being pretty profound. It was wild to me, fresh from ff7. I guess it was my first exposure to political violence. In ff7 you're freedom fighters right from the start so all the violence isn't really unusual.
Fft is different. You're supposed to be helping your country rebuild after a war, after all. That rebel Ramza and Delita put down in the early chapters really got me. She was mad that her daughter starved and we killed her for stealing food, or something. As I continued playing and Delita, my buddy that my family lifted out of poverty, a good fighter on my crew, then his hot cool sister was dead, then hes dead, then we're slaughtering citizens because they're starving and we can't feed them.
Then the local engineers union is trying to kill mustashio or whatever his name is. They're not some gay modern union with lawyers and shit, these guys have handguns and wizards and guys who can punch through a steel plate mail to enforce their monopoly on trade. Then Ramza family gets deposed, then we're on the run. Not on the run in a brave little toaster kind of way, but on the run like the next five levels are my party retreating through a swamp to avoid the death squads.
A while bunch of other shit happens too. Pretty tough for s teenager to take. When we went from all that cool political stuff to fucking rabbit people in the next fft I kind of lost interest. Great game though, hope they don't fuck it up.

>>3776174
turned into smudge.

>>3776757
Intended for >>3776173.

>>3776746
FFTA was a huge disappointment in terms of story. It was so fucking gay. The gameplay was solid and I enjoyed that but it was so campy and fucking lame otherwise.

>>3776506
of course you don't, you're retarded underclass cattle

>>3776849
The gameplay was the best part of ffta. I feel like the escapism part of it is all that gets discussed here but could you imagine that type of depthy gameplay with ffa writing? I could have even taken the rabbit people if they had been refugees or invaders or something...not whatever the fuck happened in ffta.

>>3776922
Ffta gameplay has less depth than fft what are you on about?
It was a gba game so many of it's systems are less fleshed out.

>>3776950
"Less fleshed out" doesn't mean completely worse.
Just because FFT had lots of janky stuff like the Zodiac system, grind-heavy skills doesn't mean its 2x better - just serves a different purpose.
Also the different races provided more novelty.
The law system is a bit wasted potential though.
FFTA had more varied objectives as well in some quest - while in FFT the only thing you should do is injure the boss hard enough before they retreat.

Honestly I swear FFT boomers are insufferable.

>>3776640
Tactics Ogre is more of war and warcrimes, the politics itself was negligible
Nothing about class and privilege or anything politically charged about it
While FFT had some preachy moments that completely subsided toward the end

>>3776954
the ruling class is presented as the bad guys from start to finish

>>3776956
Pretty standard then among all jrpgs with kingdoms or empires in it?

>>3776953
Fft also had a lot more grinding that the player had to do. Also because it was on ps, some actions took a little longer to do like casting spells. Ffta was snapier, brighter and made you change your tactics to fulfill an objective. I just think fft has much better writing and played its setting much better than ffta did, while you had to think more about your loadout and objectives in ffta. Ffta shouldn't have called it ivalice. Both games were still fun.

>>3777036
>Ffta shouldn't have called it ivalice.
While he did not direct it, Matsuno produced FFTA. Ivalice and FFT were his brain children, so it makes sense for a spiritual sequel to FFT produce by him to be set in Ivalice.
Had he played his cards correctly, Vagrant Story and FFTA would have built and set the stage for FFXII, which would have been the high point of his career, uniting all the world building into a grand masterpiece (FF XIV would have been the victory lap, and who knows what else), but alas!
Vagrant Story was a disaster. While I love it myself, even I don't have the patience to replay it.
FFTA was a perfectly fine GBA game. While it did not have as intricate a political plot as FFT, it makes up with mechanics and charm. You can say it was a success, since it earned a sequel and the world building was used in FFXII.
FFXII: Matsuno's shot as director of a mainline FF game. We FFT and Vagrant Story fans were going to have our moment... Mastuno chimps out and storms out of the project. While I like every aspect of FFXII, including the gambit system, and find the concept of a single-player MMORPG brilliant, most fans don't share the sentiment.
Matsuno could have taken over the franchise by storm, but failed. He would never direct another important game again.
Life doesn't always have happy endings. The world of Ivalice, like a dream or a memory, is relegated to the status of remasters and cameos, like the evanescent fantasy Ivalice in FFTA itself.

>>3776953
It does mean completely worse.
The rest of your post is complete nonsense.
FFT has a whole charge time mechanic to balance abilities around complete with tile vs unit targeting
FFT has way more damage formulas for weapons beyond Str x WeapAtt
FFT has better evasion mechanics with different directional evasion bonuses. FFTA just has general directional evasion.
It gets even worse if you account magic and status effect evasion which are extremely simplified in FFTA and rolled into one as race evasion.
FFT has more nuanced vertical tolerance for abilities and attacks
FFT has increased range for bows per 1 height difference
FFT has ranged attacks that can arc to go around line of sight and attacks that don't
FFT has map effects and weather that affect battle mechanics like night reducing bow accuracy and rain reducing fire damage
I could go on and on about how a PS1 game's systems are more advanced than a GBA's ones (obviously).

The new races are only sprite variance and they had to remove gendered sprites
New jobs are just old jobs split apart 90% of the time
Only new objective is to destroy something on the map and is used less than 5 times

I'll agree with you that both games are fun and you can prefer whichever you want. But people calling a GBA game more deep than its PS1 or PSP counterpart is just wrong. You can mess around a lot more in those.

>>3775698 (OP)
It's not really politically charged. It's politically themed.

>>3775698 (OP)
>today's gaming environment
What's wrong with today's gaming environment? Are you talking about propagandas pushed by Russian assets like Asmongold and other online gaming personalities?

>>3777066
Most of these while impressive was largely unimportant. The game was full of broken skills that making use of these are just an afterthought.
I still rate FFT more than FFTA but I think FFTA had more potential. FFTA had better worldbuilding while FFT story is largely segregated to Ivalice lore.

>>3776021
>has repeated his dumb strawman so many times he's started to believe it
The politics we want out of games bear not even the slightest resembance to the "politics" of Final Fantasy Tactics. Political storylines, political themes, even allegory is heavily divorced from the political correctness, moral browbeating and progressive social engineering that is shoved into today's games.
A game being about something was never the problem. A game being an exploration of an issue was never the problem.
By wallowing in your own convenient ignorance and repeating the same tired nonsense for the thousandth time, you are only revealing the depths of your own stupidity.
You have never been as smart as you think you are.

>>3776956
Nobody ever talks about Tactics Ogre plot or world, nor even analyzes it. Everyone talks about Palace of the Dead, how to recruit certain characters, the story choices and alignment stuff.
Why? Because the lore wasn't interesting - they are just namedropped without any real value added to them.

>>3776186
The "original" version will still have the shitty WotL script, I don't trust that it will actually be faithful even besides that, and I already have two copies of the original and one copy of the shitty PSP port so why would I bother?
NTA, but hard fucking pass also.

>>3777131
FFT attracts lots of pseuds from both left and right - the left tried hard to make it bigger than it was while the right just thinks it's cool but doesn't think too high of it.

>>3776506
It was pretty nuanced, but only for the first chapter and a half and then it becomes about killing JRPG monsters. It would have been much better if it had continued how it started, and forced Ramza to take an actual position and make some difficult choices instead of just dodging sideways into the typical "save the world" plot.

>>3776617
>Maybe Matsuno has dementia.
The whole "Ramza tirelessly fought against the entrenched social class system" suggests he doesn't even remember the plot of his own game, so maybe.

>>3777130
>The game was full of broken skills that making use of these are just an afterthought.
As opposed to the whole bunch of broken skills that FFTA also has?
They are there so you can use them and mess around with them. Even better if you depend on them after restricting yourself from using the broken stuff.
You're suddenly trying to argue game balance.
>I still rate FFT more than FFTA but I think FFTA had more potential. FFTA had better worldbuilding while FFT story is largely segregated to Ivalice lore.
I don't agree but that's your opinion so it doesn't matter if i agree or not. I also like both games but I can't say I felt FFTA had more potential. Maybe you can expand on that to see your perspective.

>>3777140
I think he got poisoned too much by the wokies praising FFT for the politics on twitter

>>3776954
>Tactics Ogre is more of war and warcrimes, the politics itself was negligible
As god intended.

>>3777146
Thank you Matsuno-san for making an uncontroversial, politically neutral game for me to project my modern political biases on to!

>>3776640
This was an interesting set piece but ultimately a gimmick, you turn on the Duke anyway, the rest of the story is generic and straightforward

>>3775698 (OP)
Why even bother with this? It doesn't even take very much effort at all to emulate the original. And I'm not even talking about that abomination of a PSP remake. The TRUE original

>>3775698 (OP)
Funny how a game about privilege and "rich people bad" costs $60

>>3777504
WoTL was great. You get more content in an already great game. Stop looking to be contrarian just because, it's so fucking lame.

>>3778845
>more content to CONSOOM
Like fucking up the translation, or adding broken classes that didn’t need to be in the game, or changing the story and adding shit like Algus coming back
>Stop looking to be contrarian just because
It isn’t necessarily contrarianism simply because someone reached different conclusions than you, or has different tastes and preferences than you, anon.

>>3777132
>Nobody ever talks about Tactics Ogre plot or world, nor even analyzes it. Everyone talks about Palace of the Dead, how to recruit certain characters, the story choices and alignment stuff.
>Why?
because it didn't have "final fantasy" in the title.

>>3778845
>You get more content
You get a lot of the job advancement changed arbitrarily as well. The dialogue is also arbitrarily changed to some excessively verbose slop because the writers wanted to be "shakespearian." Moreover, the change of in-engine text-only cutscenes to the anime-slop voice acted cutscenes was a massive downgrade.

The "content" is either pointless, i.e. a few more characters that exist only as references to other games, implemented in a way that encourages grinding (something that normally wasn't necessary in general), or completely sucks, i.e. the undead Algus fight just cuz even though it doesn't fit. FFT did not need these additions and never did.

WotL is slop.

>>3775761
The left doesn't understand human nature at all. They sincerely believe that just switching out government and economic systems will bring utopia.

>>3775698 (OP)
it’s a “Rightoids defend the honor woke capitalists who openly hate their guts” thread again?

>>3777132
It was interesting though. It's just not as popular a game.

>>3779058
Bad take. Getting Dark Knight and Onion Knight is fun as fuck.

>>3779235
Nope, I never see any interest in discussing the plot as FFT did. Yeah maybe that other poster was correct ; having "FF" in the name always attracts lorefags everywhere.

>>3779138
What's this about Amazon shaping thoughts and opinions? No idea what you're on about there.

>>3779239
Bad take. The grind to get Dark Knight and Onion Knight is cumbersome and not worth it.

>>3779243
Then you just don't go for it. It's there as an option, and it's a good one. A fun one.

I wish they added more classes. More intricate ones. Anybody got ideas for what would be a good class?

>>3779264
>good one.
subjective.
>fun one.
maybe because grind hard -> you are rewarded a somewhat OP class. subjective though because it's just another damage dealer class.
>i wish they added more classes
this one I can agree with
>ideas for what would be a good class
for starter why not rework the useless ones like Archer just like FFT1.3 did

the remake is probably built in unity or unreal, so people will mod the shit out of it

Ramza was just trying to save his sister and stop demons from taking over the world, he didn't really give a fuck about the politics

>>3779399
This. And the characters who did care about politics became the villains.

Everything else is historical revisionism.

>>3779266
Is that a mod? Never tried it. How did they rework archers?

Have you played Tactics Ogre? I recall archers being great in that.

>>3776021
There is a massive difference between political themes, political satire, political commentary, political allegory, and political propaganda.

>>3779058
>You get a lot of the job advancement changed arbitrarily as well
Just reverted back to the original JP PSX version. Chronicles has the same job requirements btw, they are useing JP as the base.

>>3775761
>because it wasn't politically charged in the first place.
I mean it had a lot to say about aristocracy, that only sounds nonpolitical because odds are you don't live in a country with entrenched social heirarches. Grow up in Britain where a working-class person will be working-class their whole life even if they become a millionaire celebrity like David Beckham or Michael Caine, because of the way they talk or how they dress.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T3-f4q13hvU

>>3779805
Oh the horror

>>3779805
Meh, the themes about class and hierarchy were only present on chapter 1
Feels like the same type of debacle FF7 fans who never played disc 1 engage with

The most consistent thing in FFT is Ramza
development from a noble to a heretic

>>3776186
I saw their social media advertising that "both versions will include the acclaimed WotL translations"
I'm sure on PC people will try to mod it, but talk about a failure to not just let people choose themselves, like it would be that difficult.

>>3780031
Doth? They allowed typos into a finished product? wtf?

>>3780031
You have to be kidding.
Why the fuck would you include 2 versions of the game and then strip the original of its script? Why force both to have the reddit script?
Why release a $60 nostalgia bait cash grab and then ruin the entire premise? How are these people so incompetent?

>>3780039
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/doth

>>3780087
Not, only that, but the War of the Lions version should include a basic translation to give players the choice. They already know that there was controversy and a lot of people don't like the "acclaimed WotL translation" so forcing it on them is really stupid.
Also, a lot of people choose to play with Japanese voices and it's going to be weird hearing them say common phrases, but seeing multiple sentences of nonsense in English.

>>3780031
Choose what? A broken translation? Now if they fix it great. But fixing it would be a new translation all by itself.

>>3780031
The original TL is an incoherent embarrassment, they can't really ship that officially

>>3780198
>>3780247
That's an exaggeration, as I'd still rather use original translation over WotL's purple prose bullshit any day of the week. But you guys do realize they're charging like 50 or $60 for this, right? I guess it would be awful if they actually had to do something to help justify the cost... And, hey, at least this way their other games with dubtitles won't even seem nearly as bad in comparison.

>>3780265
>I'd still rather use original translation over WotL's purple prose bullshit any day of the week
That's your choice but there is no way they could put the original translation in without major reworks to it.
>But you guys do realize they're charging like 50 or $60 for this, right?
I do, i'm not buying this lazy shit. I would if the additions to the story turned out to be actually meaningful and there was a good harder mode. Then again Denuvo would make me not buy it once more.

>>3779773
I test every person in my DnD games to make sure they can cite an example of each, either by making one up or a piece of media. More people should do this.

>>3780940
What I mean since they're charging a premium price, doing things like providing additional translations, and different options/features/ways to add potential value is just kind of something we should expect as consumers.
Even with problems the original translation is part of it's history, so it would be nice to include as a bonus either way. But the main thing is they know that many people have issues with the WotL translation and it's going to pair ridiculous with the Japanese audio, so not reworking it, creating a new alternative, or anything, while charging such a high price, just seems lazy/greedy.

>>3780989
And people want to play with you after that?
Desperation is a sad thing.

>>3780031
And just like that I've lost interest. Yes I will admit, FFT's original translation did have a lot of issues, but the fact that everyone was curt and to the point really cemented the fact that Ivalice was falling apart and people ran out of fucks to give.

>>3780247
The errors and inconsistencies are thoroughly documented, it would be a trivial matter to fix them.

>>3780991
It's largely to filter out soapboxers which is something I've been banning from my table since 2004.

>Its people parroting the same opinion about "FFT is just about killing monsters" again
I have a disdain for the illiterate.

>>3781005
yeah, what retards. it's an rpg, it's never about killing monsters, it's about leveling up.

>>3781009
Its about how class divide promotes corruption and grinding job points you retard

>>3780993
This news was actually even in the trailer apparently, but yeah, even the bandits and people in hostage situations and stuff talk with their gay prose. It feels so out of place and off putting, that I refuse to play with that localization

>>3775761
>>3779091
Holy FUCK how delusional are you people? Rightoids are actually retarded and constantly coping.

>>3781005
>>3781132
Doesn't provide any meaningful arguments, just seething. Typical leftoids, expected something better from /leftypol/

Arithmeticians are a privileged class that exploits the squire and archer underclasses. These chibi characters in my Japanese videogame teach a deep message of class warfare just like the one professor Schekelgruber taught me in gender studies class. Crush the system! Support current thing! Support nuclear war against Putin!

>>3781291
By the time arthmeticians get a turn the lower class has already acted three times.

>>3781012
it's operating under an illusion that people are interchangeable parts, retard, that class is merely a job title where simple experience will elevate the individual into its ultimate form as the perfect tools of the elite: the mimic. humans beings as pieces of a factory line, very bugman dystopian reality conception. i'm not surprised this went over your head.

>>3781341
This is overreaching, can be applied to many other JRPGs with job systems

>>3781352
>bugmen do dis more than once
and? job systems are anti-individual.

>>3781364
My point is stop using FFT as a way to further your political nonsense

>>3781375
this isn't political, it's philosophical. what can change the nature of a character? job systems say a menu selection and some ap/jp/xp. it's against the principles of d&d.

>>3781295
That’s part of their privilege! They can afford to take their time while the underclasses have to act three times for a fraction of the output. It’s just like capitalism! Don’t you see what the game is trying to teach us??

>>3781470
Nah the capitalism part is when you realize math skill and 5 (or better yet, 10) speed means you win on turn 1.

>>3775698 (OP)

>>3775698 (OP)
You see, niggas will write cool transcendent stories about BAD GOVERNMENT and will in time ressignify them into BAD CURRENT GOVERNMENT ALL IS POLITICS MATERIALISM.
Dont let your soul die

>>3776506
The problem is clearly one of ressignification, as Ive sair here>>3781705

>>3781661
Yup. Pretty much every leftoid haven't played FFT they just want to spit out political BS using its dialogue box.

>>3775698 (OP)
I never played this game, but isn't the plot about how there's an anti-Christ but no actual Christ? Everything I've ever heard about the story makes it sound like it's an attack on religion. Not sayin' that's actually the case or anything, that's just how I see it discussed on the normieweb.

>>3781960
>I never played this game

>>3781960
There is an evil version of Christ in this game

>>3782597
In what sense? Is like how the Netflix adaptation of Castlevania has a "good" (according to the narrative of the show) version of the Antichrist? Or it is just Christ but he preaches evil?

Basically, is presenting Christianity as evil? Or it a character who has circumstances mirroring Christ but he is evil?

>>3775698 (OP)
I don't really like Tactical RPGs (exception maybe DeSu) because it feels like tactical grinding simulator. I just can't care if the game's idea of tactics is not finishing the fight because the game decided to put a hidden item in a random square in the map and I have to wait for the Luck RNG to let me collect it.

>>3782606
Spoiler, the villain is a guy who is presented as Christ-like but not for doing good things. And there is a villain group dedicated to resurrecting him since he got executed

FFT is not all that deep, it's just full of FF fans being theoryfags as usual

The most fun, "kino" moments of FFT is in chapter 1 & 2, chapters 3 & 4 feel like a standard Hero journey

Holy shit, are we gonna get voiceacted "Draw your sword, Ramza"?
How terrible will it be?

>>3782760
It could be wonderful if they decide to make Gafgarion a flaming homo with a super flamboyant voice. It would probably save the entire remaster

To be fair though I'm stoked for the remaster and going to play it happily. I only hope they keep Dark and Onion Knight classes, and add some extra stuff, super bosses and extra hard maps especially. Those types of things are my favorite especially if there is a lot to do.

>>3776173
Now I'm depressed.
I originally thought Delita was readying a throwing star, now it looks like he's holding a starfish.

>>3776617
>It's like Kitase being confused about the whole R=U FF8 theory. He only remembers what he wrote, not what actually went out into the world.
I'm going to clarify this a bit. Kitase has been quiet clear in that he didn't consciously add content meant to imply R=U, but it wouldn't have been unusual for the other two writers to have done so deliberately.

>>3777063
So what you're saying is Matsuno had a book of ideas and that Ivalice ended up as a dream viewed through small windows.

>>3784620
>3 writers that don't talk to each other writing a story
this explains how ff schizo was made, he broke trying to find cohesion in chaos

>>3781132
No, they are absolutely correct. The left fundamentally does not understand the reality they live in. Through ideology the left spreads the notion that inequal outcomes are primarily driven via "oppressor" and "oppressed" class/identity schemes.

This of course, is almost always reductive and disingenuous. Worse yet, the motivations of this ideological narrative boil down to using these "oppression dynamics" to create increasingly hostile environments between the two classes. Ultimately resulting in the "oppressor/identity" group being disenfranchised, stolen from and often murdered. This has played out in just about every single Communist revolution.

The result of which often leads to entire industries being given to "oppressed" classes who then subsequently run it into the ground. This has happened in China, Vietnam, Zimbabwe, Russia, and on and on. The most insane example being them farms are stolen from farmers and given to people without the ability to farm. Truly amazing, the wonder of leftist ideology!

The leftist simply cannot understand that equality of outcome is inherently impossible. Identical twins often have inequal outcomes, despite being literal clones of each other. These people are dimwits who love the stranger and hate themselves, they deserve to be utterly loathed. No tolerance for leftists.

>>3785830
go back to israel or reddit, faggot

>>3785833
brownskin detected

also he didn't even mention the Epstein extended clan, why bring it up?