Does it get better?
I got filtered by Dragon's Dogma 1 and played 10 hours (finished the Lure of the Abyss mission) as a sorcerer, but I just can't enjoy the game. Keep dying to motherfucking bandits and think the whole damage formula is boogus.
I want to enjoy the game, but the world feels dated, the whole pawn thing seems stupid to me and I can't suspend the belief when playing, just seems like I'm gameying to game.

No, it's a very empty and insanely repetitive game, no wonder /v/ likes it.

Also, it has zero RPG elements and belongs on >>>/v/

I played it for the first time a couple years ago and absolutely fell in love with it. I’d never heard of it because I haven’t had a console since the ps2, and an anon shilled it to me while it was on sale for five bucks. Hell of a deal. IMO the comfiest part is after you reach Gran Soren and the full map opens up to you to explore at your leisure. If you got that far, and aren’t enjoying it, the game isn’t for you. Some people say Bitterblack Isle is better, and I finished it, but didn’t like it as much as the base game.

>>3777388 (OP)
Sorcerer is rough as a starting class due to how weak you are. Archer might be OP due to how easy it is to cheese everything. This is one of those cases where Fighter is the "proper" way of playing the game.

>>3777597
>This is one of those cases where Fighter is the "proper" way of playing the game.
I'd argue that'd be Strider, considering it engages with the gimmick of monster climbing and location hits most directly, plus not really lacking an answer to anything.

>>3777388 (OP)
Might just not be for you. It's one of my favourite games of all time and part of that is actually the slow start. How far are you into the sorcerer class progression? The class becomes incredibly strong once you get the heavy hitter spells (miasma, maelstrom, frigor, bolide, fulmination if your pawns aren't too braindead, a few more too).

Play around with the classes to see if any of them are more your speed. If not, there's no issue with not liking games other people like or love. Pawns are a good deal of the fun so not liking them is probably an indicator in itself.

>>3777389
>Also, it has zero RPG elements
Retard hands typed this.

The very reason people like it is because it's actually a systemic focused action RPG that doesn't overly guide you or hold your hand.

>>3777597
>>3777601
The correct way is to focus more on martial classes and level several of them to unlock more classes and passives. Your main pawn is best served as the caster.

>>3777388 (OP)
Then stop trying to fight bandits, retard

>>3777388 (OP)
I wasn't feeling the game the first 10 hours I played it. Next thing I knew I was 150 hours in.

>>3777703
>Retard hands typed this.
Don't entertain bait posters.
>Your main pawn is best served as the caster
This really varies. I'd say casters (specifically sorcerers, the PC really shouldn't be a mage past level 10) are better in the hands of players because players are better at deciding when to start channeling abilities with longer cast times and are better at consistently targeting weaknesses and weak spots. Pawns are also way better than people at triggering a perfect block on fighters. Regardless, most if not all vocations have passives you'll want so you'll want to try them all.

It gets good around the time you have to fight the Griffin, if you do that quest and still haven't enjoyed yourself then just quit

>>3777388 (OP)
>played 10 hours
Why are you playing games that don't grab you immediately?

An extremely kino underrated game, that has better combat than virtually every other fantasy action rpg in all of gaming. You dont want to miss out on this one anon. Its worth it.

Boring and empty as fuck. I maxed out the two handed class and was like "..now what?"
No more new skills, no change in combat except you getting slightly better weapons, spamming the same skills over and over and over for the next 90% of the game
>b-but you can learn skills from other classes that complement y-
Shut up they all suck dicks

>>3778297
>. I maxed out the two handed class
My condolences. it's considered the worst or second worst class in the entire game."

>>3778307
So no fun way to be a giant hammer wielding maniac? All the more reason not to play it

>>3778310
>So no fun way to be a giant hammer wielding maniac?
Warrior is my favorite class and is perfectly viable (though not optimal) and fun.

>>3778310
Alright, then don't. Who cares.
Literally every other class is better designed than Warrior yes even Mystic Knight, anyone who complains about it just isn't playing it right, and while that sucks, if that's a deal-breaker for you it is what it is, there's no changing it.

>>3777388 (OP)
Like 90% of the enemies and combat mechanics in this game are all designed around the dagger/bow classes. Sorcerers are viable but extremely boring. It is what it is, restart as strider (and then switch to assassin or ranger or magic archer later on) or just don't bother.

>>3778376
>>3777388 (OP)
The alternative is to stop being a whiny little bitch and learn how to play so you don't get hit, you fucking faggot.

They even put an easy and normal mode in the game so dipshits like could you to run into attacks and wait to be healed.

But bow classes and -when two of your brain cells accidentally rub together - spell casters will let you cheese fights from a distance so you don't have to be burdened with interacting with the enemies as much.

Maybe you'll even learn to use your pawns as a distraction between mindlessly mashing buttons?

>>3778545
As one of DD's staunchest dickriders, I feel obligated to tell you to shut the fuck up and stop turning people off further with your bullshit. Don't you have a FromSoft game thread somewhere to call people retarded casuals in?

>>3778552
No, fuck these retards
"WTF, I have to look at the screen or I'll get hit 3 times within 30 seconds or a minute and my pawn might not heal me and I die?"
What the fuck do they want?
Why are they even playing?
Isn't switching between tiktok and streamers enough for them?

>>3778584
it's funny to me that you guys who are like 15 years younger than me are doing the whole "old man yelling at clouds" bit now. so cute.

Why are we talking about this action game? Mods?

>>>/v/

>>3778545
It's not about the difficulty lmao. Yellow classes have sick melee moves, can climb big monsters, can target weak points with the bow, whereas sorcerers... run around and spam holy focused bolt lmao because the big dick spells take 5 business days to charge and you will be knocked out of the animation

>>3777388 (OP)
No, it doesn't get better than Dragon's Dogma: Dark Arisen. It's literally the best action-RPG there is.

>>3777793
You need to play more games if you think this has good combat

>>3778358
>even Mystic Knight
What do you mean "even" Mystic Knight? I have literally never seen anyone complain about the class ever. It's known that the shield enchantments are strong and the sigil/cannon ability they get is very strong.

>>3778376
The only thing dagger classes get that sorcerers don't is the fact they actually care about climbing. Sorcerers can still target weak spots, use elemental weaknesses, and engage with the game's status effects. They also have to care way more about positioning.

If you want boring play a ranger, stand a billion metres back, then spam tenfold flurry at the enemy's weakpoint till you win. If you want super ultra easy mode, do the same thing but with blast arrows.

Are there any mods that make DDII worth it as far as adding content?

>>3780346
It's not a bethesda game, anon.

>>3780264
Then you haven't looked very far, there's plenty of people convinced MK is borderline useless and recommending that you only play it if you're willing to do some stupid fucking shit like 'play a sorcerer until level cap and THEN play what you actually want'

>>3780511
Probably in the past, especially with the min-max leveling nonsense for builds (Even I mostly fell into that trap 10, 15, or 20 years ago when I played).

I do feel like people were aware of sigil cannon and probably not super keen on the shield enchant - it was probably just back then everyone was still focusing on what was the most OP, the coolest looking, or the most funny/meme worthy to ppst about rather than something solid like MK.

>>3780511
>'play a sorcerer until level cap and THEN play what you actually want'
>>3780775
>min-max leveling nonsense for builds (Even I mostly fell into that trap 10, 15, or 20 years ago when I played).
Man, it's what originally turned me off the game - wanting to just look up some tips for this vocation or that, and being told "okay first you do literally everything that ISN'T playing the vocation you want, THEN you have fun when fucking around with Bitterblack Isle and Ur Dragon forever"

Is there actually a point where playing a Sorcerer pays off and I stop feeling like a nerd in school who keeps getting shoved into a locker before he can come up with a total zinger of a comeback?
None of the abilities seem worth the cast time except maybe against single big enemies, but those are the minority, and at that point I might as well just play a Mage or Magick Archer or some shit

>>3781516
Maybe listen to your own common sense about using big spells on things that can be killed easily?

Also, perhaps play the classes that engage with the enemy in the ACTION rpg?
For this second point though -I can't particularly blame you for wanting to use the two magic classes - just be aware that they are less engaging.

You can actually have 2 or more sorcs in a party with the same spells and use "spell syncing" to cast faster, but in general it's more fun to simply not play mage or sorc unless you're purposely imposing a challenge where you must chant your spells and be smart about positioning.

>>3781611
You know you could've just said "no", it'd have saved you the time to type that and me the time to read it, all with the same result.

>>3781516
>>3781611
From what I remember sorc players saying, the necromancy spell will actually protect you by holding down enemies, the poison spell casts quickly and kills minor enemies quickly, the Torpor inflicting spell is broken because torpor makes everything super slow and easy to dodge.

Still though, mage and to a lesser extent Sorc aren't fun classes for a player and should be relegated to pawns.

>>3781516
Yeah, level 1.
Why do you keep playing a playstyle you hate is the better question.

>>3781835
Joke's on you, you can't even BE a Sorcerer until level 10.

>>3781835
Because of the unbearable conflict between attachment to an archetype and the implementation of that archetype, Anon.

>>3781516
It's mostly related to a player knowing how to use the class so it's not really a singular point, but usually it's before trying High Maelstrom alpha strikes.

It kinda feels like playing an MMO with no other players, the way it's so fucking empty and has a postgame that is literally just grinding/farming for its own sake with no end goal

I have such a love/hate relationship with Dragon's Dogma. It does some fantastic things, some of the bigger fights are extremely fun. But wow do I hate pawns and the way they were implemented amd the whole save system pisses me off. What really killed ut though is once you beat the main campaign, the world gets stuck as gross and grey looking which killed my desire to keep playing. Taking an end game hammer and going straight for the fire drake when I was so low level anything more than a glancing swpie was instant death and spending over a week of in game time fighting it was some of the most fun I've had in a game though.

>>3781516
DESU not until DD2, but you can use shorter cast time stuff more effectively.
DD2 implements some knockback shields and other things that fill in all the cast time gaps nicely while making you feel like a badass.

You *need* the cast time reduction ring, two IIRC which involves dealing with that little cunt's escort quest unfortunately.
It's been too long for me to remember but you might as well look it up because getting two of them is very convoluted iirc.

The poison cloud is pretty solid to add constant dps/cc, and if you spam the light fire of holy magic out of a staff it's actually one of the most low investment highest dps things in the game but also pure cheese.

There is in fact little reason to play Sorc over Mage imo, I found comboing mage spells a lot more fun and versatile than being locked down into a few big cast time spells and you can also heal and buff.

>>3786525
That ring is part of the main quest, where you beat up a pussy-ass wizard. You are required to get it, the option is whether you turn in a copy while keeping the original. You're thinking of the golden idol, which you can also argue needing 2 of, but that's not specific to spellcasting classes. 1 non-forgery each for the best results from the two related quests. It unlocks that merchant's full store, which carries over for NG+. A golden idol also gives a discount to shops, which could and would necessitate getting a third, but a forgery is good enough for the discount.

Miasma will proc staff effects, like torpor from rusted archistaff. and despite being listed as a dark spell, it hits with non-elemental damage, so it's capable of killing anything that isn't a golem. AND it casts fast enough that it can be used on stuff pulled in to the middle of a maelstrom.

Sorcerer is strong as hell. Imagine not being able to win a fight before it even starts.
Real talk, though: sorcerer is very hit-or-miss if a person will enjoy playing it. Even more than most classes, I'd say.