why is this game so hard?
i always get lost in the dungeons

i am supposed to find the biolab recorder

>>3777638 (OP)
draw a map retard

Use the strategy guide (it actually came with the game).

>>3777638 (OP)
>i always get lost in the dungeons
It gets worse if that makes you feel any better

>>3777667
is that why it's hated? when people talk about phantasy star they usually talk about the 4th one

>>3777669
Phantasy Star IV was ahead of its time and still holds as one of the best JRPGs period. The story was great, the setting wonderful, and OST full of bangers.

Phantasy Star II is good but so dated. Even then it felt fucking dated. It's best to use a guide for the maps, or play the remake on PS2 through emulation. They added QoL and extra stuff you can get through grinding battles (great equipment pretty early in the game if you're diligent, plus great items to heal your party you can stock for the end-game)

>>3777641
I'm at work how am I supposed to draw a map?

>>3778843
>Phantasy Star IV was ahead of its time
>Phantasy Star II is good... Even then it felt fucking dated
You have your timelines messed up. PS2 did not feel dated, it came out in 1989 for fucks sake it was probably the most graphically impressive JRPG when it came out. I don't know what other people dislike about it but I assume its hated because of the reasons I dislike it, the mixture of labyrinthine dungeons, half the foreground obscured by junk, and your character isnt centered in the screen so all together you struggle to find out where to go.

>>3778979
graph paper ("houganshi" in japanese)

>>3777639
The block in the center-south of the upper right room is the biolab recorder, you touch it to be done with this dungeon

>>3778843
It didn't feel dated in 1990, or at least any more dated that any other JRPG on sale. This game came out before Final Fantasy 1 or Dragon Warrior 2 in English speaking countries because localization was so slow.

>>3777638 (OP)
gamefaq's has like 30 guides dude.
download the original map as a pdf
draw a map
none of these maps seem that confusing or "puzzle"ish, maybe smoke less weed or drink less

>>3782117
They get worse than that, believe me.

>>3782117
Got any games for people who like to drink beer and get drunk or smoke weed and get high?

>>3783794
skyrim

>>3777638 (OP)
Dragon warrior sux. Next thread please.

>>3783794
Metaphor Re:Fantazio

>>3777669
Phantasy Star is basically two games with great stories and one game with an interesting concept that could have been executed better all wrapped around games that aren't actually fun to play. Phantasy Star IV is a great story wrapped around an actually good game.

>>3777638 (OP)
I remeber beating it back in the day...
Years of handholding later and now I won't be able to get halfway without a guide lol

3X3 16bit era

>>3782117
>seem
are you really throwing judgement if you never played the game before? What are you doing. If you have played the game and dont think the dungeons, especially some of the later dungeons, are confusing then you're blasted.

>>3777638 (OP)
The difficulty at first is lack of characters and getting raped by Blasters. After that it's more of Dungeon endurance.

>>3783794
Mystic Quest.

>>3777638 (OP)
There's an actual explanation we have for this:
https://shmuplations.com/phantasystarii/
>Another issue was related to the dungeons, which were created by a new employee. Because he was new, he put a ton of effort into the maps and kind of overdid it… the game became more about the complex dungeons than anything else. I think you really see that on the Dezolis dungeons. They were really well done, and when Chieko Aoki saw them she didn’t want all the new employee’s work to be for naught, so we ended up using those maps… albeit with some mixed feelings. They contributed to the latter half of the game being unbalanced.

>>3784975
>that aren't actually fun to play
1 is fun.