Pillars of Eternity - /vrpg/ (#3777980)

Anonymous
6/8/2025, 6:30:32 PM No.3777980
Portrait_thaos_lg
Portrait_thaos_lg
md5: be128cfc47f704885588ca4c10d6d328๐Ÿ”
Thaos did nothing wrong
It actually took me a good while to finish this game, despite really liking it, so a lot of the story at the end went over my head. For instance, what bad things the main character did in the past, aside from betraying the atheist girl who is impossible to find on the wiki
The last battle was pretty lame, but the White March dlc made up for it
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Anonymous
6/8/2025, 6:36:43 PM No.3777991
thaosvrpg
thaosvrpg
md5: 7e58218453de6b0140c7b92660f6bf19๐Ÿ”
>>3777980 (OP)
Anonymous
6/8/2025, 6:46:00 PM No.3778004
I don't remember what he even did.
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Anonymous
6/8/2025, 6:48:14 PM No.3778006
Thaos did what Woedica wished of him, which is pretty much all he's ever done through all his lifetimes, guy was basically a fucking automaton with how long he's reinforced his worldview over and over.
Now Woedica, though, is a total cunt who does not deserve the power she wants. Holding even the pettiest grudges forever is not a personality, and besides it's Skaen's gimmick already. I fully realize that technically there is more to her than that, but you see little of it in the first game, and Deadfire makes the mistake of letting you actually TALK to her, and proceeding to prove she's nothing but a seething little bitch somehow stuck even further up her ass than every other god.
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Anonymous
6/8/2025, 6:49:19 PM No.3778010
>>3778004
>we tottally did the math, without gods existing our sosiecty will crumble
>create gods
>soul fuckery happens, I better make sure the evil goddess who we created and was hardwired to be boss becomes boss over lifetimes of reincarnation
Anonymous
6/8/2025, 7:01:51 PM No.3778028
>>3777980 (OP)
Correct, which is why I funneled the souls to Woedica after kicking his ass and just returned his soul back to the cycle as normal (hopefully he learns to fucking listen next time) and then switched to Priest of Woedica in the second game for maximum commitment
And then watched with a sour expression as the game basically ignored the weight of that choice and just carried on with neither Skaen nor Woedica really acknowledging it beyond one line and an item
But at least I got to hang with Aloth and talk about it I guess
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Anonymous
6/8/2025, 7:12:14 PM No.3778044
>>3778028
>the whole spoiler
The funny thing is they fixed that later (I think v5.0 or something?). Which is good news for people only playing it then, and shit news for everyone like you, who wanted that choice to matter when THEY played it.
But you know, lmao.
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Anonymous
6/8/2025, 7:33:15 PM No.3778069
>>3777980 (OP)
To this day, nobody knows who voiced him, even though he was the best voiced villain in all of RPGs.
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Anonymous
6/8/2025, 7:54:13 PM No.3778096
>>3778069
That's impossible! Nani? He's not in the credits?
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Anonymous
6/8/2025, 8:00:17 PM No.3778103
>>3778096
It happens sometimes, for some reason, that in some games you are not allowed to list who voiced whom. Something about doing work outside of the voice actor's (echo) guild (echo) or something. The only reason we got a confirmation who voiced Eder (though that was quite obvious) and Aloth is because Mercer said it himself on social media.
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Anonymous
6/8/2025, 8:01:47 PM No.3778105
>>3778103
>(echo)
Heh
>mercer
Eh! *puke*
Anonymous
6/8/2025, 8:02:48 PM No.3778106
>>3777980 (OP)
William Salyers
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Anonymous
6/8/2025, 8:09:25 PM No.3778113
Wiliam from Slayers
Wiliam from Slayers
md5: 328c1fb35267ab5b23abe281cc838229๐Ÿ”
>>3778106
Dude I loved Slayers
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Anonymous
6/8/2025, 9:15:47 PM No.3778166
>>3778113
Extremely awesome series. 90s anime might be peak.
Anonymous
6/8/2025, 9:59:18 PM No.3778205
>>3777980 (OP)
Simping for Woedeca is never right.
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Anonymous
6/8/2025, 10:23:11 PM No.3778233
>>3778028
>>3778044
Could be worse, you could be playing an Eothas priest who gets jack fucking shit in either game despite Eothas being an important part of the first's backstory and THE core of the second
And THAT didn't get a fucking patch to fix
It's been years and I can still so clearly relive the disappointment
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Anonymous
6/8/2025, 10:59:35 PM No.3778267
>>3777980 (OP)
Kana-Rua is my favorite fish-nigga. Summoning ogres and dragons has saved my party multiple times.
Edรฉr is bro tier, I always do his story.
Durance is a mad lad who is unfortunately underutilized in the story.
Sagani and the Greiving Mother are Sexo and part of my haram
Pallegina is a bitch and Godlikes are all abominations
Hiravias has the most grating voice and personality. I donโ€™t care for him.
Aloth is a traitorous fag who I banished without a second thought
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Anonymous
6/8/2025, 11:06:54 PM No.3778273
>>3778267
>Durance is a mad lad who is unfortunately underutilized in the story.
I thought he had a lot more story and longer dialogues with the watcher than the other people I recruited.
Aloth is a bro, I only disliked how he revealed his secrete in such a casual manner.
Anonymous
6/9/2025, 12:53:54 AM No.3778316
>>3777980 (OP)
I wonder what Thaos would think If he ever meet Sapadal, an actual god. Bet he would cope, seeth and double-down if he ever found out.
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Anonymous
6/9/2025, 12:58:22 AM No.3778321
>>3778113
Is that the animu that has poisonous skin and travels with a bunch of other toons that are sex assassins, choking men with their extremely long hair and shit?
Anonymous
6/9/2025, 1:00:06 AM No.3778324
>>3777980 (OP)
Thaos did everything wrong, obliterate soul tier.
Anonymous
6/9/2025, 1:03:16 AM No.3778327
>>3778069
I didn't like his voice much though he annoyed me less than Irenicus.
I mean, it's a memorable voice but they kinda sound like they are trying too much to stand out.
Not a native speaker so that may just be an artifact of that tho.

Devil of Caroc is 561 out of 10 though. Apparently it's also unknown who VAed it.
Anonymous
6/9/2025, 1:04:20 AM No.3778328
>>3778233
>you could be playing an Eothas priest who gets jack fucking shit in either game despite Eothas being an important part of the first's backstory
Your god is a dead autist, what would you expect? Granted, he becomes just an autist in the 2nd game, but seriosly, even god damn Abydon has more character than him.
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Anonymous
6/9/2025, 1:07:09 AM No.3778329
>>3778267
>Kana-Rua is my favorite fish-nigga. Summoning ogres and dragons has saved my party multiple times.
>Edรฉr is bro tier, I always do his story.
OK
>Durance is a mad lad who is unfortunately underutilized in the story.
shrug
>Sagani and the Greiving Mother are Sexo and part of my haram
wait a moment, fag
>Pallegina is a bitch and Godlikes are all abominations
OK and fuck you
>Hiravias has the most grating voice and personality. I donโ€™t care for him.
no sense of humour detected
>Aloth is a traitorous fag who I banished without a second thought
get a load of this stupid faggot
>no Miss METAL mentioned
q.e.d.
Anonymous
6/9/2025, 1:45:15 AM No.3778356
>>3778328
>what would you expect?
Considering the Eothasian purges are constantly mentioned in certain areas, and Eder merely believing in Eothas is the whole reason he has to fuck outta his town? I'd sure expect a lot more than nothing. But you can't even bring up the fact you are indeed a priest of Eothas TO Eder, or fucking anybody involved with Gilded Vale other than, if I recall right, one single line with Raedric. And even that might be me misremembering.
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Anonymous
6/9/2025, 2:00:27 AM No.3778364
>>3778356
>But you can't even bring up the fact you are indeed a priest of Eothas TO Eder,
Brotha, Eothas canonically couldn't succesfully bring the the fact that he is indeed Eothas and not an imposter pretending to be him to his own followers. Playable priest of Eothas being dense is fully in line with the canon.

And yeah, I'm just pretending to be retarded, that's a really big pet pieve of mine also
Anonymous
6/9/2025, 2:07:17 AM No.3778371
>>3778233
>And THAT didn't get a fucking patch to fix
Actually it did, at roughly the same time. Obviously only applies to Deadfire. But you do get more (read: any outside of the very start when you recruit Xoti and chat about Eothas/Gaun with her).
Which just like the Woedica fixes is just kind of annoying, as if you FIRST played with one of those (or any other options that got more dialogue with patches, which is quite a few) you'd basically have to play the same thing again to get the intended experience, and the one you were after.
Anonymous
6/9/2025, 2:49:32 AM No.3778395
>>3778113
Is this guy's name really William?
Anonymous
6/9/2025, 3:04:31 AM No.3778405
>>3778316
>look up this guy
>wiki entry is empty
Avowed sold really good huh
Anonymous
6/9/2025, 3:06:43 AM No.3778407
>>3778316
Who the fuck knows, the existence of such things is an obvious retcon since it was made VERY clear nothing of the sort existed at the time of the Engwithans, since they searched far and wide.
Unless it formed later and they were just retarded by only coming up with the one single way of creating gods that required a mass soul sacrifice and amalgam, when gods could have formed naturally.
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Anonymous
6/9/2025, 12:01:27 PM No.3778618
Why is poe subpar?
>cali propaganda (watcher = cuckold)
>overstreamlined system (balance)
>weird writing (again cali)
>overpriced labour (cali)
>rushed piece of shit (amateurs)
>blatant dnd copy
>part 2 breaking to many established themes
What are the reasons according to you?
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Anonymous
6/9/2025, 12:07:00 PM No.3778621
>>3778407
I mean, you take them at their word that
"NO GODS COULD EVER EXIST, EVER.
WE ARE AUTHORITY ON THE SUBJECT.
NEVER MIND THAT BEINGS FAR ABOVE MORTALS COULD ALSO STAY HIDDEN OR SOMETHING OR OUR GOD RADAR LOST A SCREW OR WHATEVER"

It's weird how this is a fact we have to roll with for the cosmology of the world
Anonymous
6/9/2025, 1:33:03 PM No.3778644
>>3777980 (OP)
>Thaos did nothing wrong
He trusted W*edica
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Anonymous
6/9/2025, 1:57:41 PM No.3778652
>>3778006
>>3778205
>>3778644
When Woedica takes back her throne, every insult will be paid for in blood
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Anonymous
6/9/2025, 2:09:52 PM No.3778657
>>3778652
Go back to a puddle of blood , Skaen
Anonymous
6/9/2025, 2:22:03 PM No.3778665
>>3777980 (OP)
How so? The White March felt shoehorned in. It's completely disconnected from the game which wouldn't be bad if the game was like Skyrim where finishing the main quest doesn't end the entire game. I'm no CRPG expert but the way this was handled felt extremely artificial. Oh, yeah let's ignore our main objective and take a vacation in the far north to deal with some isolated issue.
Anonymous
6/9/2025, 3:03:22 PM No.3778681
>>3778618
>>cali propaganda (watcher = cuckold)
Source?
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Anonymous
6/9/2025, 4:37:54 PM No.3778726
>>3778681
Some guy here, then I asked around in rl and it's true, it's cali slang. There's even symbolism, like women and pineapples, there are a lot of hidden signs for fetish sex.
Anonymous
6/9/2025, 5:12:16 PM No.3778748
who watches
who watches
md5: 998e07bd1046e5b57981b11c843c6e03๐Ÿ”
>>3778681
apparently it is so
it's also fairly new and wasn't around when PoE got released so naturally, no this isn't an intentional cuck reference
if you needed to be sure
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Anonymous
6/9/2025, 5:52:09 PM No.3778763
>>3778748
>around when PoE got released so naturally
Like you know
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Anonymous
6/9/2025, 7:11:53 PM No.3778806
>>3778763
the first mention of this meaning on UD dates 2021
you are free to disprove me by providing hard evidence it was used in that context before 2015
but I figure you won't
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Anonymous
6/9/2025, 7:22:10 PM No.3778815
>>3778806
Hard evidence, lol. Wait, I'll get written testimonies of key eye witnesses, brb.
>hard evidence
If not found online, it's non-existent. Kek at you.
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Anonymous
6/9/2025, 7:39:26 PM No.3778846
>>3778815
>please accept my concession
well here you go
don't mind if I do
glad we are done here
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Anonymous
6/9/2025, 8:04:13 PM No.3778875
>>3778846
I don't, I ridicule your very being.
Anonymous
6/9/2025, 9:10:33 PM No.3778942
watcher
watcher
md5: 9765380d3c000da00f695e09bab025c1๐Ÿ”
>>3778748
cuck just self-owned by equating watcher with his obscure cuckshit terminology that only cucks know.
sad.
Replies: >>3779060
Anonymous
6/9/2025, 10:30:40 PM No.3779053
Having to decide between Cipher and Wizard is suffering
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Anonymous
6/9/2025, 10:37:55 PM No.3779057
>>3779053
Cipher always gets extra reactivity compared to other classes, but wizard always gets reactivity when other archmages are around.
PoE1 only has grieving mama as a cipher, while PoE2 technically has 2 (but I hate that fucktard green goblin).
I'd give a bonus to cipher in PoE 1 because it's a bit easier and you do not ave to fiddle with spellbooks
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Anonymous
6/9/2025, 10:44:58 PM No.3779060
>>3778942
meant for >>3778618 obviously
Anonymous
6/10/2025, 3:29:17 AM No.3779205
Thaos is cooler and more competent version of Irenicus.
>wizard with a cool voice
>but Thaos is actually based even without his voice, whereas Irenicus is literally just carried by his voice actor
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Anonymous
6/10/2025, 3:32:00 AM No.3779209
>>3779205
I don't know about based, but at least I can respect his motivations despite disagreeing with him
Irenicus is just a seething loser when you learn about him, all the intimidation factor evaporating into thin air, even the intended tragedy factor barely making a difference
Anonymous
6/10/2025, 3:34:21 AM No.3779211
Imagine if Irenicus had the effeminate elf voice from BG1
Anonymous
6/10/2025, 11:22:52 AM No.3779407
>>3779057
Counterpoint: Wizards having actual spellbooks is really cool.
That's one thing I adore this game for.
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Anonymous
6/10/2025, 11:33:47 AM No.3779415
>>3779407
True, I was also sad they dropped it for PoE2. But I understand it's not for everyone
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Anonymous
6/10/2025, 11:41:12 AM No.3779418
>>3779407
>>3779415
Agreed, it did a better job at having you turn into a spell-hunting autist than any D&D adaptation ever has, and having specialized grimoires you could switch between was extremely fun.
While it was lost in Deadfire, honestly I didn't mind the new system, and hunting for grimoires instead was a passable equivalent, especially with some of the unique ones having, well, unique spells and all.
Anonymous
6/10/2025, 11:57:28 PM No.3779850
>>3778028
>>3778233
Man I lucked out, I played through both the first and second with a Death Godlike Priest of Berath and got exactly what I signed up for and more. Especially in the second for obvious reasons, but even in the first there was a good amount of reactivity there and the second confrontation with Raedric is pretty great, since it shakes his whole assumption of being chosen
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Anonymous
6/11/2025, 12:33:09 AM No.3779873
>>3779850
POE1 was too front loaded. They ran out of time for the later acts.
Replies: >>3779879
Anonymous
6/11/2025, 12:36:17 AM No.3779879
>>3779873
Not quite sure what that has to do with my post, but either way, sure, you're not wrong.
I find that's a problem that plagues the genre in general though. Honestly hard for me to think of a game that DOESN'T have the most content at the start and peter out later.
Anonymous
6/11/2025, 1:21:24 AM No.3779923
Unironically, the only memorable writing in Obsidian games was from Avellone. That's why no one remembers anything from post-PoE obsidian.
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Anonymous
6/11/2025, 1:29:35 AM No.3779931
>>3779923
Mask of the Betrayer wasn't Avellone.
Anonymous
6/11/2025, 2:39:30 AM No.3779975
>>3778004
I remember nothing about the game except the corpse tree and kiting the dragon, neither of which was relevant to the main plot.

It's not a very good game.
Anonymous
6/11/2025, 2:45:33 AM No.3779980
>>3778069
Now that you mention it.
Yeah, the voicework in PoE was top tier. Certainly much, much better than both Pathfinders, altough BG3 still takes the cake.
Thaos voicework is as good as Raphael, not better, but up there.
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Anonymous
6/11/2025, 2:46:35 AM No.3779981
>>3779980
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D_cJ3iaoL1Q
Anonymous
6/11/2025, 2:57:55 AM No.3779989
PE2_Eothas_SI
PE2_Eothas_SI
md5: a8e71b8ce7e5b856a948872c7b0e03b5๐Ÿ”
>Eothas
>E O T H A S
>[e] O T H A S
>T H A O S
>Thaos
When I realized this I stopped playing PoE, spoiled the ending for me by my intellect
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Anonymous
6/11/2025, 4:10:04 AM No.3780047
I'm on my 4th attempt to beat the game since its launch. I've never made it past Twin Elms before. However, I have a better grasp on the lore now (and I turned off Backer OC) so I'm a bit more interested in this playthrough. We'll see how far I get this time.
Replies: >>3806816 >>3809349
Anonymous
6/11/2025, 4:24:50 AM No.3780057
What I really I remember from the game is autistically replaying the opening with every single background and writing down the dialogue for it and making a hasty pastebin to let people know what the exact origins are immediately after release
Anonymous
6/11/2025, 5:07:04 AM No.3780100
>>3779989
I thought Thaos was like thanatos and chaos. Like, the death of chaos. He wanted to kill chaos.
Anonymous
6/11/2025, 1:14:14 PM No.3780284
1748885717887960
1748885717887960
md5: cc7cfb2c3b5fb8168cb51d08cab41993๐Ÿ”
>>3779989
Well fuck.
Anonymous
6/11/2025, 5:58:44 PM No.3780394
>>3778267
Pellagina is based for a Kweeng though desu, would produce half avian-mullato bastards with
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Anonymous
6/11/2025, 6:07:29 PM No.3780404
>>3780394
She is a bitch with delusions of importance that the world treats as a badass without her ever actually doing anything and is a contender for worst personal quest in both games.
What would you say is even a good quality of hers, beyond shit like her accent?
Anonymous
6/12/2025, 1:15:57 AM No.3780655
>>3780394
Godlike are sterile.
Anonymous
6/12/2025, 4:49:18 AM No.3780754
>>3779415
They didn't drop it for PoE2, they expanded on it. You can learn spells by leveling, but you can also equip them via spellbook. In addition, there's a dozen or so unique spellbooks which often contain spells you can't learn by leveling and can only be accessed by spellbook. For example you can rob the vault of an archmage in Neketaka and steal his spellbook to get his unique spells.
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 12:00:20 AM No.3782383
Played until like the middle of act 2 last year. Should I continue or start fresh?
Replies: >>3782385
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 12:01:43 AM No.3782385
>>3782383
Start over, add some mods.
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 2:07:11 PM No.3783410
>>3777980 (OP)
I don't remember much of his motives. But i know for sure that the gods should have never existed in the first place. I vaguely remember that he had a part in creating them in the old civilization, and that fact alone makes him a moron.
Anonymous
6/20/2025, 1:30:39 AM No.3785912
>>3779989
Man if only Od Nua managed to put his son in that thing, wait a minute why did he make it so huge to begin with?
Anonymous
6/20/2025, 8:12:41 AM No.3786143
>>3778618
>>cali propaganda (watcher = cuckold)
I never could put my finger on why such a lame title bothered me so much, now I know. Thanks anon.
Everything else is correct, also it's ok to say wokeshit here and watch all the leftoid drones screech about it but I appreciate the longhand form effort takedown so they can be reminded.
Anonymous
6/25/2025, 9:57:20 AM No.3790815
>>3777980 (OP)
>Thaos did nothing wrong
He was sick of atheism and so literally made a god to believe in.
Replies: >>3790952
Anonymous
6/25/2025, 4:43:51 PM No.3790952
>>3790815
And so he exchanged how obnoxious atheists are for how obnoxious converts are, and nothing of value was lost or gained in the process.
Anonymous
7/2/2025, 5:54:22 AM No.3794750
>>3777980 (OP)
>imagine being a servant to a god you had to create yourself.
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Anonymous
7/2/2025, 4:28:51 PM No.3794947
>>3794750
I don't see the problem with that.
The PoE Gods may be man-made but they and their powers are absolutely real. Not really different from being a servant of a king you helped ascend to the throne.
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Anonymous
7/2/2025, 5:13:17 PM No.3794967
>>3794947
I've found that people get really hung up on the origin of the gods whenever PoE is discussed. I mean to be fair, many characters in the story do as well, but with them it's a matter of having been living a lie for as long as they know (actually longer, considering past lives and all).
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Anonymous
7/2/2025, 5:27:54 PM No.3794975
>>3794947
Man precedes from and contains the divine, not the reverse. Divinity isn't divine when it's man made, it's mundane. If you can create a god, you are a god, and godhood is just a technique rather than a pinnacle. Might as well call them Sorcerer-Kings instead, like Dark Sun. None of that matters though, it's really all just a materialist twist on fantasy, pothead level "this is cool" stuff.
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Anonymous
7/2/2025, 5:28:28 PM No.3794976
I'm just always disappointed by how poorly balanced the unique options for classes and backgrounds are. I mean, I wasn't expecting each and every one to have hundreds of little bits just for the sake of it, but... it's obvious they didn't even try. Like, Rogue gets one single unique bit of dialogue in the entire game. But you might say, alright, that's just a guy that stabs people real good. Monks, with their whole weird pain power and wack-ass philosophies, get... two. Both in the base game, despite White March having fucking Zahua, and you'd THINK they'd discuss their shit.
It's no better in Deadfire, either.
Replies: >>3795011 >>3795615
Anonymous
7/2/2025, 5:30:48 PM No.3794982
>>3794967
>I've found that people get really hung up on the origin of the gods
>many characters in the story do as well
That's probably why. In most other media with a similar origin for the gods, those abstract concepts and ideas (to the average pleb) are rarely touched (outside of optional lore books) while in PoE you are forced to interact with people who are invested in this eons long conspiracy.
Also I found that people really miss the part where this old civilization which created the gods did it because they failed to find God(s) with their scientific methods. (Actual) God(s) may exist in the setting, it's just that it was never scientifically proven one way or the other. For example this poster >>3794975 has missed this fact, on top of having a narrow view of what is allowed to be a Deity.
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Anonymous
7/2/2025, 5:31:28 PM No.3794983
>>3794975
>If you can create a god, you are a god
Semantically maybe, but not in practice. You've created something many times more powerful than you, which you can no longer destroy and can only affect indirectly through potentially depriving it of worship/souls, and even then to a limited extent and requiring social manipulation on a grand scale once they're let loose into the world.
But the way you're talking about it, it sounds like you either haven't played the game or haven't been paying attention, especially given the little smug dismissive comment at the end.
Anonymous
7/2/2025, 5:32:33 PM No.3794986
>>3794982
>(Actual) God(s) may exist in the setting, it's just that it was never scientifically proven one way or the other.
Until Avowed lmao
Replies: >>3794992
Anonymous
7/2/2025, 5:35:37 PM No.3794992
>>3794986
Luckily I can ignore sequels and compartmentalize the narrative of each game.
That said, could you elaborate on that? I haven't played it and probably never will.
Replies: >>3795008
Anonymous
7/2/2025, 5:39:06 PM No.3794995
>>3794982
>has missed this fact
>sounds like you either haven't played the game or haven't been paying attention
Why do Obsidiots have the exact same tired cope every time? Are they incapable of intellection and reading between the lines? I guess it's an autism thing.
Replies: >>3794997 >>3794998 >>3795620
Anonymous
7/2/2025, 5:39:56 PM No.3794997
>>3794995
>no argument
>ad hominem
cool bye
Replies: >>3794999
Anonymous
7/2/2025, 5:41:08 PM No.3794998
>>3794995
I accept your concession.
Replies: >>3794999 >>3795001
Anonymous
7/2/2025, 5:42:49 PM No.3794999
>>3794997
>>3794998
>little smug dismissive comment
Fascinating.
Replies: >>3795001
Anonymous
7/2/2025, 5:43:46 PM No.3795000
most boring lore in video game history, how did Obsidian manage it?
Anonymous
7/2/2025, 5:45:07 PM No.3795001
>>3794999
>read the post and was entirely unable to formulate a counterargument
kek >>3794998
Replies: >>3795005 >>3795043
Anonymous
7/2/2025, 5:46:39 PM No.3795002
>>3794975
>Man precedes from and contains the divine, not the reverse. Divinity isn't divine when it's man made, it's mundane. If you can create a god, you are a god, and godhood is just a technique rather than a pinnacle
>pothead level
Statements such as these are incomprehenisble to the average monotheistic cult follower.
Replies: >>3795024 >>3795032
Anonymous
7/2/2025, 5:49:28 PM No.3795005
>>3795001
Which non sequitur post was yours?
Replies: >>3795009
Anonymous
7/2/2025, 5:51:48 PM No.3795008
>>3794992
Alright, the basic gestalt:
There's a deity separate from the Engwithian pantheon that arose 'naturally' within the Living Lands, the player being its Godlike (which is why they're weird fungal shit instead of the usual Nature Godlike vines and flower shit). The big eleven had a melty about it, stuff happened, culminating in Woedica cutting off Living Lands adra from the rest of the world. Now my comment was half-facetious because while many (most) people take this to mean that 'real gods' exist and literally everything the Engwithans did to cope with being in a godless world was stupid and pointless, it's equally possible to understand the specific circumstances present in the Living Lands and the souls of an entire civilization cycling in a loop for ages basically monkey-with-typewriter'd Sapadal, the god in question, into being in the same way the Engwithans did with their meticulous experiment.
One way or another it doesn't change too much in practice, because the god in question is also basically a retarded child with a nuclear arsenal which kept terrorizing people just because. If it's really natural and it existed forever, the Engwithans would probably have had a mental breakdown about the fact the only god they could find is THAT thing and probably make their own; if it happened by accident (before, concurrently, after, doesn't matter) then the outcome of that is an entity with all the power of an Engwithan god but none of the intentionality and direct investment in its followers.
Replies: >>3795010 >>3795014
Anonymous
7/2/2025, 5:52:23 PM No.3795009
>>3795005
Neither of those posts was a non sequitur.
Anonymous
7/2/2025, 5:54:50 PM No.3795010
>>3795008
>monkey-with-typewriter
Hello fellow visual novel enjoyer.
Anonymous
7/2/2025, 5:54:58 PM No.3795011
>>3794976
I was downright malding at Hunter getting fuck all dialogue when one of the specific backgrounds for it is a monster hunter, and you sure hunt a lot of legendary beasts all over the place. I'd have even taken something as shallow as "aw hell yeah another weird skull for my trophy wall", but no.
I mean the fact you can't say that at all, background option or not, is annoying. The whole game just desperately lacks the option to be actually excited about anything, ever.
Anonymous
7/2/2025, 5:56:28 PM No.3795014
>>3795008
I see. Doesn't seem to make a big difference in the grand scheme of things.
Replies: >>3795022
Anonymous
7/2/2025, 6:02:29 PM No.3795022
>>3795014
Yeah, but the way some people blow it out into rendering the entire plot of PoE and Deadfire stupid is funny, so I was compelled to joke about it
I mean, considering how little justification the Engwithans had for basically anything they did, I really don't think the difference between making gods because they were none, they fucked up and didn't find them until too late, or they straight up just felt like it, would change their moral standing or the end result all that much.
If anything the question of whether there's any inherent greater value in a 'real god' that is uncontrollable and actively malicious over manufactured gods that ultimately serve the interests of their faithful would have been an interesting one... if Avowed bothered to do fucking anything with it, but it doesn't. Because, you know, literally nobody in the story knows the pantheon is 'fake', so all the revelations are lost of them and anyone who hasn't played the other games.
Replies: >>3795030 >>3795040
Anonymous
7/2/2025, 6:05:26 PM No.3795024
>>3795002
Way to come off like the edgy pseuds I used to hang with when I was 14.
Replies: >>3795025 >>3796191
Anonymous
7/2/2025, 6:07:50 PM No.3795025
>>3795024
Cool buzzwords.
Anonymous
7/2/2025, 6:11:20 PM No.3795030
>>3795022
>they fucked up and didn't find them until too late
For me this was always the case.
They were at the height of their civilization and they spent all the resources they had to find out if something above them really existed. Once they finally reached a conclusion they were disappointed so they tried to find a solution, which IIRC was opposed by a lot of people and thus began the (very quick) decline of their empire.
I just don't see how you could have 100% certainty of something with scientific methods. At best you can have a working theory until you know more, and they decided they knew enough to commit ritual suicide (just like a real world cult).
Replies: >>3795040
Anonymous
7/2/2025, 6:12:20 PM No.3795032
>>3795002
It's easily comprehensible, it's just both wrong and dumb. It was refuted in the second reply, and the original poster had to response and had to resort to seething about something irrelevant.
Replies: >>3795035 >>3795074
Anonymous
7/2/2025, 6:15:42 PM No.3795035
>>3795032
>It's easily comprehensible
Not to the average monotheistic cult believer who thinks that [their interpretation of] "God" created everything and supersedes everything. These people are not observing surface-level drive-by internet "debates" of theology or philosophy.
I just think it's amusing that you project this minimum threshold of subjective knowledge/theory upon everybody.
Replies: >>3795036
Anonymous
7/2/2025, 6:17:39 PM No.3795036
>>3795035
That's a lot of words to say nothing particularly relevant or illuminating.
Replies: >>3795041
Anonymous
7/2/2025, 6:27:44 PM No.3795040
>>3795022
>>3795030
What was always amusing to me was that considering the lack of gods meant no frame of reference for what they must be like, and their immense knowledge of animancy (and by extension magic), their solution was just so terribly excessive (and didn't even solve the problem). They were fucking terrified of there being no higher authority to dictate morality, but... their creations were pretty much just amalgams of what they could've come up with themselves, and no better than if they straight up sat around and made a code of laws by common agreement then proceeded to claim it was divinely inspired to all outsiders while performing "miracles" using their soul machines. Sure, some unspecified number of them would know it's a farce, but that number would only shrink with time, all without the need to unleash eleven soul abominations upon the world just because. I mean they ended up having a secret society manipulating the events over millennia anyway.
The only thing they "fixed" was the Wheel, but apparently that fucked it to the point that if anything interferes with it it'll promptly break beyond repair and doom the entire world to non-existence, so... hell of a fix there.
Thaos and some other characters can cope for hours, but at the end of the day it was pure hubris. They COULD create gods, so they did, just to satisfy their own ego and quell their irrational fears without confronting them properly.
Replies: >>3795324
Anonymous
7/2/2025, 6:27:55 PM No.3795041
>>3795036
>little smug dismissive comment
Fascinating.
Replies: >>3795043 >>3795046
Anonymous
7/2/2025, 6:29:30 PM No.3795043
>>3795041
>>3795001
Replies: >>3795047
Anonymous
7/2/2025, 6:31:02 PM No.3795046
>>3795041
>little smug dismissive comment
Fascinating.
Anonymous
7/2/2025, 6:31:09 PM No.3795047
>>3795043
>dismiss everything out of spite
>omg my argument
You will always be a 14-25 year old newfag.
Replies: >>3795056
Anonymous
7/2/2025, 6:32:52 PM No.3795051
>responding twice to the same post
wew lad
Anonymous
7/2/2025, 6:44:58 PM No.3795056
>>3795047
And I see you're still unable to refute the very straightforward counterarguments, kek
Maybe spend a little more time looking through your thesaurus next time?
Anonymous
7/2/2025, 7:24:09 PM No.3795074
>>3795032
Wow, both wrong and dumb. And you "refuted" it by responding to part of a sentence.
lmao, you had an emotional reaction to the pothead thing because you think PoE is cool.
Replies: >>3795077
Anonymous
7/2/2025, 7:33:51 PM No.3795077
>>3795074
I'm not either of the people who originally responded to you, kek. I just think it's funny that you typed out something you clearly thought sounded insightful only to be unable to defend it from the most straightforward criticism, so all you've done since is dissemble and dissemble.
>still no counterargument
Once again, I accept your concession.
Replies: >>3795092
Anonymous
7/2/2025, 8:26:41 PM No.3795092
>>3795077
There wasn't a counterargument or any argument. I explained my perspective and they just went "like, you didn't get it, man". This isn't debate class, kiddo.
Replies: >>3795341
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 5:10:12 AM No.3795324
>>3795040
Well they had religions before they made their gods; so they had those to work off of I guess.
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 5:41:13 AM No.3795341
>>3795092
The post starts with a direct refutation of your argument, but cherry-picking which part of a post to respond to has been your deal through this whole exchange.
Replies: >>3795389
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 7:37:13 AM No.3795389
>>3795341
You don't even understand my "argument".
Replies: >>3795395
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 7:43:57 AM No.3795395
>>3795389
I understand it fine, it's just wrong - as the original respondent pointed out.
Replies: >>3795397
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 7:47:30 AM No.3795397
>>3795395
No, you don't. Furthermore, you don't even care.
Replies: >>3795401
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 7:53:40 AM No.3795401
>>3795397
Oh, I'm still amused you've spent this long replying without responding to the original reply. I'm sure you thought your pseudobabble sounded convincing enough to other idiots who haven't played the game.
Replies: >>3795406
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 7:59:29 AM No.3795405
retarded pollacks shitting up the board
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 8:01:04 AM No.3795406
>>3795401
>it went over my head
Okay.
Replies: >>3795407
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 8:01:44 AM No.3795407
>>3795406
>little smug dismissive comment
Fascinating
Replies: >>3795409
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 8:10:37 AM No.3795409
>>3795407
.
Replies: >>3795411
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 8:14:02 AM No.3795411
>>3795409
Thanks.
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 8:31:05 AM No.3795416
Hands down the most retarded thread on the board, which is a really high bar to clear
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 2:29:27 PM No.3795578
>>3777980 (OP)
>For instance, what bad things the main character did in the past, aside from betraying the atheist girl who is impossible to find on the wiki.

He was part of the Leaden Key/Inquisition that suppressed (by mass murder) the resistance to the Enwithian Gods' plans. The girl is Iovara and the character has visions because he infiltrated the resistance and later betrayed them out of the conviction that the gods were real and she was lying, but she (somehow) showed him the truth before dying, traumatizing his soul.

It's a shame that the second game abandoned the eeriness and mystery of the first one. I have nothing against the pirate setting, but they made the interactions with the gods and spirits a joke with all the quippy writting.

Also, this site is not a good place to discuss this franchise (or anything lately), it triggers some kind of spastic response from the chuds.
Replies: >>3795584 >>3795590 >>3795717 >>3795765
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 2:33:10 PM No.3795584
>>3795578
I lost respect for everyone in the pantheon except maybe one. Stories that mock Olympian like pantheons do not make them look that retarded
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 2:43:20 PM No.3795590
>>3795578
I wouldn't say it's JUST the chuds, but that's beside the point. Ever since the site went down for a while every single board has taken a fucking nosedive in quality, and discussing anything on any board is an exercise in frustration.
It's like 90% of the userbase remaining are dipshits from other parts of the internet who base their entire understanding of 4chan on slander and memes, and think that engaging in regular discussion on a subject is somehow against site culture.
Replies: >>3795717
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 3:19:25 PM No.3795615
>>3794976
>you pressed this button at character creation 40 hours ago so now you get this dialog option
meh...
the reputation system they implemented and unique dialog options it grants >>>>> class-based unique dialog options
from any perspective
Replies: >>3795644
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 3:21:20 PM No.3795620
>>3794995
>can't even reply to the correct post
pathetic
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 4:07:04 PM No.3795644
>>3795615
>from any perspective
I mean considering my disappointment and disapproval, clearly not ANY perspective
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 6:36:51 PM No.3795717
>>3795578
>>3795590
>the chuds
>recently
4chan has, unfortunately, been destitute long before either of you two arrived on the website.
Replies: >>3795777
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 8:08:54 PM No.3795765
>>3795578
>It's a shame that the second game abandoned the eeriness and mystery of the first one. I have nothing against the pirate setting, but they made the interactions with the gods and spirits a joke with all the quippy writting.

The first one uses the idea of and imperfect, unfair and frankly quite fucked up afterlife to create a unique main story and villain. The second one uses it to make joky innuendos... but has some good dlcs and side quest here and there.... and Avowed takes a big fat dump on the themes because it exist to provide content to game pass.
Replies: >>3806490
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 8:38:55 PM No.3795777
>>3795717
Cute. I guarantee I've been here longer than you, at least.
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 8:49:00 PM No.3795781
>>3778044
Did they ever fix the import feature not setting your choices from the first game right? I know it only changes a couple of lines, but it always annoyed me.
Replies: >>3795785 >>3796153
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 9:00:47 PM No.3795785
>>3795781
I think so? At least I haven't had that happen to me, and I haven't seen any complaints about it after the rewrite/content patches came about.
Anonymous
7/4/2025, 12:52:45 AM No.3795922
Paladin > Fighter
Anonymous
7/4/2025, 12:54:46 AM No.3795923
Cipher > Rogue > Paladin > Monk > Fighter > Barbarian > Literal Ass > Ranger
Replies: >>3795927 >>3796122 >>3796149 >>3796167
Anonymous
7/4/2025, 12:59:20 AM No.3795927
>>3795923
I used a Ranger in my last campaign and she was actually pretty good. I focused her on twin bleeding shots with a bow and her animal companion was a dog.
Replies: >>3795934
Anonymous
7/4/2025, 1:04:59 AM No.3795934
>>3795927
I was honestly just basing it off how easy it is to reach effective easymode with them. A ranger you need to actually think things through with and manage both them and the companion for optimal effectiveness, whereas Cipher just drops a CC and goes to town, and Rogue mulches literally anything with a status effect.
Anonymous
7/4/2025, 8:04:11 AM No.3796122
>>3795923
Just make a party of rangers with bear pets.
Replies: >>3796131
Anonymous
7/4/2025, 8:17:34 AM No.3796131
>>3796122
I can think of few things lamer than that
Anonymous
7/4/2025, 9:16:14 AM No.3796149
>>3795923
Chanterbros...
Replies: >>3796177
Anonymous
7/4/2025, 9:37:39 AM No.3796153
>>3795781
It been a while but I think they never did because the problem was in the PoE1 saves. Setting your choices using the ingame tool works fine though.
Anonymous
7/4/2025, 10:00:36 AM No.3796167
>>3795923
How the fuck are rangers ass? They are certainly not really mechanically exciting.
At some point I thought they were weak, but then I checked the statistics and my basic wood elf ranger had something like 50% of the kills. A lot of that potentially the weaker enemies (hunting bow with the swift shot ability), but that absolutely counts for something.
Anonymous
7/4/2025, 10:22:28 AM No.3796177
>>3796149
Chanter occupies a wack position between the 'straight up casters' and the hybrids/martials I've mentioned, and really it's in a category of its own based on the 'ease of easymode' criterion. It just kind of does its thing on top of whatever you decide to do with the character in a way no other class does.
But I guess it'd go below Cipher on that listing, since honestly all you need to do to turn the early/mid game into a cakewalk is motherfucking Reny Daret's Ghost to paralyze enemies, AND you can do it earlier than Cipher's Mental Binding, but it falls off in comparison later since Cipher has some powers that border on 'you lose lol' as long as they land, while Chanter's Invocations are far more of a mixed bag in usefulness but they make one hell of a power multiplier.
The problem is that, well. If you have two Ciphers (yourself and Grieving Mother, hell even more if you make customs) you just break everything harder and harder. Two Chanters CAN be useful, but you won't see quite as much of a compound effect as multi-Ciphers casually locking down the entire opposition and making their souls explode.
Rogue is also way better at finishing things quickly, as is Paladin really, but Chanter has better staying power than Rogue and comparable to Paladin, so... maybe between those two.
But really the strength of the Chanter lies with the fact you can play literally fucking anything from an absolute grug with a big stick to a wimp with Might/Con/Dex all tanked and it will work exactly as well, as long as you don't keep intentionally picking things keying off wrong stats. I guess they wanted to capture that jack of all trades thing, since they have Phrase and Invocation selection that WILL have something that works for you.
Anonymous
7/4/2025, 11:01:38 AM No.3796191
>>3795024
Thats vrpg in a nutshell.
Replies: >>3796382
Anonymous
7/4/2025, 5:08:15 PM No.3796382
>>3796191
Getting pissy about religion while spamming buzzwords and roleplaying how they've totally been here for a long time? Those are common symptoms of newfaggotry across all boards.
Anonymous
7/7/2025, 12:01:05 PM No.3798365
sapadal
sapadal
md5: 5b935d0de6f2121fbe822ced3ef3a7f2๐Ÿ”
>>3778316
>article still empty
Did nobody care for Avowed?
Replies: >>3798545
Anonymous
7/7/2025, 6:45:54 PM No.3798545
>>3798365
I loved Avowed but I am not surprised the wiki nerds havenโ€™t updated the wiki
Anonymous
7/7/2025, 9:45:05 PM No.3798658
GXm0vTHaIAAi4wc
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md5: be1cdbfe7a135f0c72dd4d6c028f700b๐Ÿ”
I was wondering about the next character I want to start at some point. Gonna finish some other games before.
>but you can do whatever!
Maybe I'll also tackle the higher difficulties.
Bleak Walker, death godlike.
High Resolve and high Intellect, because my previous character was lacking in this area. But also really want to get into this blackguard direction with some additional deadliness. Yes, there is apparently Bittercut for Flames of Devotion heavy damage, and the Ruffian style of weaponry would fit well with this character.
Additional Might for the damage? If I dualwield, I may not need much Dexterity. And Zealous Focus might help with the accuracy issue. Maybe can get away with mediocre Constitution if Resolve is high enough coupled with some good armor. But I somewhat feel that this character wants to be good at too many things at the same time (high Resolve-Intellect but also somewhat deadly in melee).
Replies: >>3798663
Anonymous
7/7/2025, 9:51:55 PM No.3798663
>>3798658
If you are not doing Solo, very high Migh and Int, some Res too.
Flame Devotion/Intense flames building up to sacred Imollation is just good.
Amd if you have a priest/Durance always on the party and maybe Hiravias, you can ignore lay on hands and put Zealous focus and such.
Dual wield is good if you go all out that way.
If you want to self sustain with heals a bit, no.

Probably Human or Aumaua
Replies: >>3798665
Anonymous
7/7/2025, 9:55:34 PM No.3798665
>>3798663
>Probably Human or Aumaua
Is probably the better choice. The death godlike is ultimately for style-points, don't think there were many dialog options that make it worthwhile, and there would be some cool helmets that would benefit this character. Their ability sounds meh for a character that will probably do more burst damage on the start of combat, not finish almost dead opponents off.
Anonymous
7/8/2025, 12:20:57 AM No.3798731
Since we're talking characters, I'm really torn on what to go with for Deadfire. I did Cipher in the first one, since it's more or less the most equal split for a 'gish', but since Deadfire has multiclass, it opens up some options... even if I just keep Cipher as half of it for all the extra options.
I guess the obvious choice is adding Rogue to exploit all the stuns and such better but it's kind of boring. I guess Paladin might fit? The actual casters seem like they'd just have massive action economy clash, it'd cut into what's normally a pretty smooth flow of gather focus -> slap a power -> back to killing
Replies: >>3798737 >>3801517
Anonymous
7/8/2025, 12:26:23 AM No.3798737
>>3798731
Ascendant Cipher with helwalker monk.
Or Soul Cipher with Pillar Monk
Replies: >>3802691
Anonymous
7/12/2025, 12:43:38 PM No.3801517
>>3798731
Cipher/Ranger synergizes extremely well. Best for ranged but can work with melee too. Rangers have a ton of accuracy bonus they can stack which will help your cipher powers hit powerful enemies. You can use your cipher powers to heal/buff your animal companion, and use it as an anchor for stuff like soul shock ect. Rangers get a talent that makes their ranged attacks bounce to another enemy which will generate focus too.
Anonymous
7/12/2025, 12:46:05 PM No.3801518
this thread proves that only basedboy pollacks like pillars
Anonymous
7/12/2025, 12:47:55 PM No.3801519
>>3777980 (OP)
That would be true if Woedica was a hot tall dommy mommy with massive mammaries and black lipstick who rewarded her devout followers with divine blowjobs.

As it is he's peak onions simp incel cuck faggot.
Replies: >>3801530
Anonymous
7/12/2025, 1:21:31 PM No.3801530
>>3801519
Maybe she looked like that before the burns? I can't imagine any other reason anyone ever worshiped her
Replies: >>3801538
Anonymous
7/12/2025, 1:43:13 PM No.3801538
>>3801530
>Actual top of a Pantheon female god obtains her privileged position of authority by having it literally artificially engineered for her by men
>Loses it almost immediately by incompetence
>instantly becomes a vomit-inducing uggo driven by infinite spite against everything and develops insane genocidal tendencies
What did Sawyer mean by this?
Anonymous
7/14/2025, 4:05:57 AM No.3802687
>>3777980 (OP)
I destroyed his soul and named the biggest Deadfire Islands Iovara's Land and Gods Are Fake
Anonymous
7/14/2025, 4:08:25 AM No.3802691
>>3798737
Ascendant Cipher with Kind Wayfarer here. Besides occasionaly striking with Flames of Devotion to save party, all I do is Soul Shock.

I can't believe somebody told me to get mind blades, the damage output is lik eorders of magnitude worse.
Replies: >>3806989
Anonymous
7/16/2025, 12:54:02 AM No.3804119
Any class that works well with Woedica paladin? i tried fighter but got bored quickly
Replies: >>3807737
Anonymous
7/17/2025, 5:14:08 AM No.3805638
>>3777980 (OP)
I played this game a few years ago and all this thread has shown me is how forgettable it was damn
I only really remember durance and eder as companions
wasn't the ending mega gay? The gods only exist because people believe in them? I can't remember why the soul machine stopped
Anonymous
7/18/2025, 5:17:39 AM No.3806490
>>3795765
Deadfire improved the combat but abandoned the elements of a good villain and a dark fantasy theme.
Anonymous
7/18/2025, 7:43:22 PM No.3806816
>>3780047
Stopped early in Act 2 this time. Yawn.
Anonymous
7/18/2025, 11:43:12 PM No.3806989
>>3802691
Mind blades is more for pure ascendant, the extra power levels make it exponentially stronger (the same applies for most multi projectile spells as you get the power level +damage% on top of the bonus hits)
Anonymous
7/19/2025, 8:36:31 PM No.3807737
>>3804119
I remember seeing a lot of woedica builds on the forums, might wanna look into that
Anonymous
7/20/2025, 4:56:56 PM No.3808352
i tried playing this game several times but couldn't get past all the autistic rambling. didn't like any of the characters and couldn't give a fuck about anything they were saying.
Replies: >>3808384
Anonymous
7/20/2025, 5:39:12 PM No.3808384
>>3808352
Cool.
Anonymous
7/21/2025, 9:01:25 PM No.3809349
>>3780047
>never got past twin elms
That's like, literally the last stop before the final dungeon but you act like it's in a starting area. Just load up and old save and beat the game already

I'm beating it for the third time now, using a barbarian with a pike as my main and he's smashing stuff from the back row with massive AOE damage. I also RP'd that aloth sold his soul to Berath and mutated into a death godlike cypher, and dual wields and does massive melee and spell damage.
Replies: >>3810492
Anonymous
7/23/2025, 10:43:10 AM No.3810492
>>3809349
>I also RP'd that aloth sold his soul to Berath and mutated into a death godlike cypher, and dual wields and does massive melee and spell damage.
What? How? Why?
Replies: >>3811264
Anonymous
7/24/2025, 8:25:39 AM No.3811264
>>3810492
How?
I went to the inn and hired a cipher, made him a death godlike with elf form and named him Aloth, then replaced Aloth in my party.
Why?
Because it's fun to role-playing that Aloth made a deal with Berath for power, and paid a terrible price for it. The combat log says "Aloth hit Troll for 93 raw damage with Silent Scream" and it feels like a good role play
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Anonymous
7/24/2025, 3:31:29 PM No.3811431
>>3811264
>I went to the inn and hired a cipher, made him a death godlike with elf form and named him Aloth, then replaced Aloth in my party.
Bruh