Thread 3779826 - /vrpg/ [Archived: 369 hours ago]

Anonymous
6/10/2025, 11:16:20 PM No.3779826
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Thoughts on Live a Live?
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Anonymous
6/10/2025, 11:22:45 PM No.3779832
it's good
Anonymous
6/11/2025, 4:38:08 AM No.3780069
It's good, but a lot of the segments (like the cowboy's and the ninja's) require a guide to really appreciate.
Replies: >>3780777 >>3781045 >>3781197
Anonymous
6/11/2025, 5:39:54 AM No.3780112
>>3779826 (OP)
Shitty gameplay but interesting concept, more interesting than Octoslop
Replies: >>3780180
Anonymous
6/11/2025, 5:40:21 AM No.3780113
>>3779826 (OP)
Tedious but cool.
Anonymous
6/11/2025, 7:28:15 AM No.3780149
YES_face
YES_face
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>>3779826 (OP)
VICTORY ROAD
Anonymous
6/11/2025, 8:06:42 AM No.3780162
>>3779826 (OP)
It's a bit uneven but everything moves at a fast pace to where even the weaker sections never overstay their welcome.
Replies: >>3780777
Anonymous
6/11/2025, 8:33:33 AM No.3780180
>>3780112
Exactly my thoughts. I was repelled by the ot demo.
Anonymous
6/11/2025, 9:02:01 AM No.3780193
>>3779826 (OP)
Its a nice little experiment of a game considering how many genres and game mechanics it tries to emulate. It all comes out a bit messy in the end, but I like it for what it is - a bold experiment with cool stories and awesome music.
Anonymous
6/11/2025, 7:26:26 PM No.3780434
>>3779826 (OP)
5h JRPGs > 40h JRPGs
Replies: >>3780435
Anonymous
6/11/2025, 7:27:41 PM No.3780435
>>3780434
Amen
Anonymous
6/11/2025, 8:43:54 PM No.3780467
>>3779826 (OP)
Mid-a-Live.
Anonymous
6/11/2025, 9:12:27 PM No.3780485
It's okay. Liked stories and wanted them to go on longer. It's a bunch of little games in one. I don't love it, I don't hate it. I wish it did more.
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Anonymous
6/12/2025, 5:53:15 AM No.3780777
>>3779826 (OP)
Good game with a good remake, that being said >>3780069 is right, some of this shit is needlessly obtuse. But it's an experimental game

>>3780162
Yeah I've beaten it twice on steam (god only knows how many times in emulation) and only have 23 hours on it, it's a very short game
Anonymous
6/12/2025, 3:24:49 PM No.3781038
>>3780485
I'd argue the Cube chapter went on too long because once you've played the game before, and it's so short that there's no reason not to play LAL, that chapter is basically just a VN.
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Anonymous
6/12/2025, 3:25:57 PM No.3781040
>>3781038
no reason not to replay*, I meant
Anonymous
6/12/2025, 3:30:59 PM No.3781042
LIVE a cuck PEG
LIVE a cuck PEG
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>>3779826 (OP)
cool parodies of game genres and best cuck knight.
Replies: >>3781284
Anonymous
6/12/2025, 3:33:24 PM No.3781045
>>3780069
>lot of the segments (like the cowboy's and the ninja's)

Not-Sunset Riders is playable and replayable w/o a guide.
Ninja scenario's a tough one if you wanna go for max-kills or max-stealth w/o kills.
Anonymous
6/12/2025, 9:42:06 PM No.3781197
>>3780069
I went guideless on the SNES and had a blast. Especially the cowboy duo having to face down the entire gang and a GATTLING GUN boss battle since I wound up just making a shitload of explosives. Despite how daunting it looked because the guy himself couldn't move it was easier then it seemed.

Ninja was only a problem if you wanted a 100% bonus and I never knew about this until later on hanging out online.
Anonymous
6/13/2025, 1:16:01 AM No.3781284
>>3781042
Expected SaGa Frontier as well and was disappointed.
Anonymous
6/13/2025, 4:35:12 AM No.3781371
me when takashi tokita and yoko shimomura
me when takashi tokita and yoko shimomura
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>>3779826 (OP)
It has one of the best endings of any jrpg and one of the best ost of all time
the game is just peak soul
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WOaNciHnJhQ
i love the fact that in the remake you can play with Oersted in the final fight.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gx4gNmSxs_0
Anonymous
6/13/2025, 7:00:22 PM No.3781658
One great thing about this game was the OST, in particular this song, despite the short loop:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gmh4Qs20DZA
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Anonymous
6/16/2025, 6:29:11 PM No.3783581
>>3779826 (OP)
It was great. Ended up with Yun (main), Pogo, Oboro, and Cube in the end and generally 100%ed the stories and the endgame.
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 7:00:01 PM No.3783606
>>3781658
>posts the snes version
>not the vastly improved remaster version

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W3HDTnq1IZs
Replies: >>3783962 >>3795105 >>3795686
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 9:09:30 PM No.3783685
>>3779826 (OP)
A unique game that I appreciate while also not enjoying
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 9:18:20 PM No.3783698
>>3779826 (OP)
I'm at the last dungeon with 27hrs. It's a great game.
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 8:29:31 AM No.3783962
>>3783606
shit taste faggot
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Anonymous
6/17/2025, 9:33:58 AM No.3783988
>>3783962
The remaster version makes the song more complex and breaks up the excessive repetition.
You just have poor understanding of music.
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Anonymous
6/18/2025, 6:42:05 AM No.3784541
>>3779826 (OP)
Better than Bahamut Lagoon and Treasure Hunter G. But not as good as Gun Hazard, Rudra no Hihou or Romancing Saga 2.
Anonymous
6/18/2025, 7:30:43 AM No.3784557
>>3783988
>The remaster version makes the song more complex and breaks up the excessive repetition.
Clearly you do if you think pointless complexity automatically makes things better. The song was composed for a specific purpose and the original did that. This is just pointless flash for easily impressed dullards.
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Anonymous
6/18/2025, 3:27:00 PM No.3784673
>>3784557
>The song was composed for a specific purpose and the original did that
Thank you for letting us know you can read Shimomura's mind and understood the original idea of the song, something that has never been talked about in interviews with her.
Ignoring of course that this isn't even the first time she's remixed the song (which has lyrics)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FXWwmkxwRO8
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Anonymous
6/19/2025, 12:40:02 AM No.3784979
>>3784673
What's to talk about. Video game composers know what they're composing for, and everything is balanced across the capabilities and limitations of the console in question. This is how the song was designed for.
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Anonymous
6/20/2025, 3:23:29 PM No.3786285
>>3784979
>Video game composers know what they're composing for, and everything is balanced across the capabilities and limitations of the console in question
I don't think I need to tell you how many composers go on to say "I was being held back from what I actually wanted to compose by those limitations" because most of them aren't Tim Follin where they sap away extra ram from the game to hit more notes.
Hell for the original KH2 she said she intentionally made He's A Pirate kinda shit because she didn't want to "overwhelm" the player, then when she realized everyone just thought it was shit (so mission accomplished I guess), she just refused to hold back in the remaster.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rSFRubNsoxI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7q7odTpVun8
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Anonymous
6/20/2025, 9:06:44 PM No.3786787
>>3779826 (OP)
Oersted did nothing wrong.
Anonymous
6/21/2025, 8:57:00 AM No.3787642
>>3786285
I didn't say they weren't held back but those limitations were what made them compose the way they did. If they didn't have those limitations they would have made something different entirely and it would have probably been ass because limitation breeds creativity. And your mom.
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Anonymous
6/21/2025, 9:49:36 AM No.3787663
fuck yes
fuck yes
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>>3786285
>Hell for the original KH2 she said she intentionally made He's A Pirate kinda shit because she didn't want to "overwhelm" the player, then when she realized everyone just thought it was shit (so mission accomplished I guess), she just refused to hold back in the remaster.
Anonymous
6/21/2025, 10:09:59 AM No.3787666
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Hate it enough to consider it indefensible.
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Anonymous
6/25/2025, 4:53:25 PM No.3790958
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>>3779826 (OP)
I love it, shame the remake had that lackluster script, but the OG is still in my heart all these years later.
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 1:49:06 AM No.3791245
>>3787642
>limitation breeds creativity.
Everyone says this but we didn't put a man on the moon because we let NASA be held back by limitations, we cut them a check for "infinite money" as long as they could do it before the Soviets did.
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Anonymous
6/26/2025, 1:54:17 AM No.3791251
>>3791245
Also just to be clear, whenever music people say "limitation breeds creativity", they don't mean technical limitation. They mean having goals and boundaries, tell an artist to compose anything and they won't know what to compose. Tell them you want X composed about Y by Z date and they might come up with something they never would've thought of before. That's how Mozart gave The Magic Flute, he was commissioned to make a lighthearted opera for the common man when he was always used to working for the aristocracy before.
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 4:23:46 AM No.3791296
>>3787642
I don't think you understand how severe the limitations for games were back then. Memory in particular was a huge issue which absolutely no composer enjoyed having as a restriction.

Regardless, the updated version of most music in Live A Live is vastly superior, in some cases to an extreme degree like in Near Future where they can outright add music the section was clearly inspired by like a Super Robot show intro song or just in general to break up some of the short melody loops to improve the composition.
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 5:23:32 AM No.3791330
>>3779826 (OP)
The remake art really lost an important quality of the game. Each character having their own art style and artist associated with their chapter made them all feel cool in their own ways and then all of them coming together for the final chapter feel special.
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Anonymous
6/26/2025, 2:37:51 PM No.3791454
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>>3791245
lol, yeah sure, it certainly wasn't all those Klauses and Hanzes that suddenly "immigrated" to America
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Anonymous
6/26/2025, 3:35:04 PM No.3791473
>>3791454
Who were now working with way less limitations than they did under the Germans.
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 3:36:04 PM No.3791474
>>3791330
>Each character having their own art style and artist associated with their chapter
While true, that never came across in the actual game because of the sprite art, it was purely in the illustrations
Anonymous
7/2/2025, 8:58:09 PM No.3795105
>>3783988
>>3783606
Actually it was my bad, I meant to post the remaster track because that's the one I was first exposed to and like more. It's more polished in post-production clearly. I just rushed when I looked for a link to post.
Anonymous
7/2/2025, 8:59:18 PM No.3795106
>>3787666
Satanic Trips. Watch your back today anon, you've a hex upon you.
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 5:39:55 PM No.3795686
>>3783606
I am not into the techno beats.