How is there not a single thread??!! are you not existed about the powerful Electron engine becoming popularized leading to incredible free content?

>>3782956 (OP)
>How is there not a single thread?
>>3778717

There is already one, as mentioned.
On a different note, I find this new trend of shitposting by pretending to be an overly hyped retard incredibly tiresome.
Were this even remotely earnest, even excessively so, I would be able to respect it even if I think the remaster will be a nothingburger.
This is just fucking pathetic, and smacks of being a joyless cunt incapable of genuine excitement.

>>3782958
>ctrl+F
>neverwinter
>0 results
I blame the OP for using an abbreviation and unremarkable image

>>3782969
You are severely autistic if you think I feigned excitement. I want the community around the sequel to be revitalized, the engine was way more capable, but overly cumbersome.

>>3782956 (OP)
It would be really cool if it somehow managed to ride on the coattails of BG3 and there was a strong revitalization of the community surrounding the game.
Imagine something like the NWN1 PRC being ported over for example. That would be insane.
Hell, I might try doing that myself so fucking happy I am that NWN2EE is a thing.

>>3782973
>the community
lmao

>>3783087
module makers, and virtual DMing

>>3783087
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zxMZyVn0y3k

>>3782996
Is this old or remaster?

>>3785552
The whole game?

>>3785557
it's in 5:4 bro

>>3785552
why would someone want to play bg2 with a worse engine and ruleset?

>>3785557
Very, very old.

>>3785563
>>3785575
Are there pictures of the upcoming game?

>>3785582
idk, google it

>>3785562
yes

>>3785565
it is free and in 3d?

>>3785582
There's a trailer.
But it's just a small remaster, it won't be a big overhaul or anything.
See >>3782112

>>3785669
Awesome. I want to replay bg in 3.5e. Iwd and today was a good day. Png

>>3785680
I don't get it. It's solely Snoy station? Impossible. Graphics are OK, if mask and bg is as good as they say. I doubt mods will work with Snoy station.
While we are at it how to find actual decent nwn 1 modules? I'm inclined to play it, too, but the vault is a 30 year old website, impossible to navigate.

>>3785698
>It's solely Snoy station?
Nope!
It'll release on both GoG and Steam too.
I'll leave it for others to recommend NWN1 modules.

>>3785698
>the vault is a 30 year old website, impossible to navigate.
30 year old websites were fucking based, none of the bloat and garbage that modern hardware specs and connection speeds allow. You could write raw html in Notepad.

>>3785698
>but the vault is a 30 year old website, impossible to navigate
lmao, just zoomer things

>>3785675
Yup

>>3785552
This isn't out, yet, right? Only iwd 1 and bg1 are available and iwd2 and bg2 are next, thst correct? Where to get the mods, nexus?

>>3782972
>ctrl+F
>neverwinter
>0 results
>make thread
>ctrl+F
>neverwinter
>0 results
what did she mean by that

>>3785552
How the fuck are they gonna handle the multiclass characters? Or the particular Kits? I can maybe see Wiz/Rogue/Arcane Trickster for Jan working, but even Fighter/Druid is a questionable choice at best due to CL loss unless you limit it severely (thus not serving the same function), and Aerie may as well fucking kill herself, since unlike back in 2e where there was at least justification for cleric/mage in the end, no amount of Mystic Theurge (which isn't even in NWN2 by default) can salvage a Wizard/Cleric in 3.5.
There's no equivalent of Shapeshifter for Cernd either (Shifter was NWN1 only), there's no Inquisitor for Keldorn (you'd have to fuck around with PrC), there's no Berserker for Korgan (you'd need a Barbarian/Figher which, again, not quite the same purpose or flavor)...
I expect an unmitigated disaster on this front.

>>3785813
A few months ago the maker said it is in beta and updates can be found on his facebook page. I think there are download links for the bg1 on mod websites but will have to look that up again.
>>3785856
It seems he added classes and prestige classes to match the ones in the original in this guys play through he shows a little of that and yeah there are a lot.
https://youtu.be/XEZidjcwghw?t=65

>>3785863
>vidrel has a metric shitton of classes.
Nwn2 has no tools et, huh? The armor looks atrocious, lol.

>>3785675
all games are free and 3d isn't better.
nwn2 is a garbage engine. imagine how awkward and boring the dialogue is going to be in that engine. pure tedium.

>>3785900
3D is inherently a superior dimensionality

>>3785854
The cycle must continue, simple as

>>3785552
Now THIS is what I'm talking about, Enhanced Edition is going to bring the good good

>>3785552
The solar looks disgusting, rest is fine.

>>3782956 (OP)
Looks like a really lazy rerelease to me. The "improved graphics" are nothing that can't already be done with mods, and they're not doing anything fun like restoring cut content either. So all you're getting out of the Enhanced Edition is controller support.

>>3785856
Adding new classes is entirely trivial, especially considering everything else that would need to be done to make this.

>>3787689
Most remaster use existing mods, they are, via definition, lazy af.

>>3787689
there's honestly nothing more to be done with a rerelease of Neverwinter Nights, you just upres graphics, add controller support, and put the master server back online. It's up to the players to create content and support these games, obviously.

>>3787697
Not sure if you're being sarcastic here, but NWN2 had a shitload of cut content. Literally entire plotlines were chopped from the game and you can still find plenty of unused assets and even entire dialogues in the game files. Restoring that, or even just part of it, would make the Enhanced Edition worth playing even for people who already own the original game.

>>3787701
>plenty of unused assets and even entire dialogues in the game files.
[laughs nervously in vtm bloodlines]

>>3787704
[cries in KotOR2]

>>3787701
content gets cut for a reason. restoration harms.

>>3787697
>there's honestly nothing more to be done with a rerelease of Neverwinter Nights
Fix bugs, rework camera and 3rd person controls, update creature and equipment models, make better animations.

>>3782973
I'm only excited if they will fix the damn companion AI working like shit constantly switching weapons, interface and that fucking camera.

>>3787724

>>3787697
> just upres graphics, add controller support
This game has atrocious controls and companion AI and if it will not be fixed they can fuck right off

>>3787715
The autism obsidian has towards the very concept of a sexual relationship between player controlled pixels and NPC pixels is insane.

Recommend me a rogue build.

>>3787742
>sexual relationship
Those are in obsidian games, you probably meant romance.

>>3787737
you haven't played M4-78, have you?

>>3787742
it's not insane, and it's not really about sex, it's about being against stroking the player's ego in any way. obsidian is full of the kind of people who disdain "gamers", as if those are a real group of people with identifiable characteristics. they are self-hating nerds who want to be "better" than their natural masculine inclinations. this is common in many nerd spaces, tabletop is rife with it.

>>3787796
The issue there is that it was cut so early there was barely anything left to restore, so it's essentially fanmade content and not restored content. Even the regular RCM has its issues, since it focuses on restoring as much content as feasibly possible without considering why some things might have been cut.

>>3787689
I just hope they unfuck the engine a little and unlock multiclassing and some other previously hardcoded limits.

>>3787724
There's two kinds of cut content.
One that was cut on purpose for the benefit of the game.
And another where content the devs intended to be in game got cut because of a lack of resources (time, money, manpower, etc).

>>3787876
And then there's content cut out because marketing said that stuff needs to be sold as DLC.

>>3787876
the second kind is also the first. with limited time and resources, the less interesting content gets cut. i've never seen any restoration in any rpg that was actually interesting or impactful. people just like the idea of restoration and hidden content, but more is not better. nwn2 in particular is already bloated enough, what they should really do is cut stuff like the orc caves.

>>3787930
>what they should really do is cut stuff like the orc caves
Well, it's true. The OC would greatly benefit if you reduce that part to a single cave.

>>3787796
>>3787930
You forget that we KNOW some of what's gotten cut because the files are still in the game, just incomplete, and it makes the game better.

For example, in the released game the rivalry between Qara and Sand seems like an extremely petty Sorcerer vs Wizard thing, and Sand turning evil at the end of the game because he hates Qara so much he'd rather side with the villain than allow her to live is completely retarded. None of it makes sense because they completely cut out Qara's backstory and the reason Sand is so afraid of her. Restoring that content would objectively improve the game because it would give them a reason to act the way they do instead of coming across as forced drama and shit writing.

>>3787783
Rogues kinda suck in NWN2 because sneak attacks do fuckall against half the enemies you face.

>>3788607
On one hand, there's ways around that later (feat and weapon crafting I think?).
On the other, by the time you get access to those, you have been fighting undead for 20+ levels.
So yeah, that fucking sucks.
At least with mods, you can build a rogue that deals dex to damage to make that a little less of an issue.

>>3788607
>>3788840
Just make a STR rogue lmao

>>3788606
you know what would objectively improve the game far more? cutting out qara.

>>3788852
But then we're going to lose the scene where she shits on Khelgar and Neeshka so hard it turns those two into buddies:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9KmeWCHRdig

>>3788873
oh no. losing more pointless companion cutscenes?
what a devastating loss to the game.
truly that would tank the whole experience.

>>3788852

I never found Qara all that hard to deal with in my game once you understand what drives her. Then again, I wasn't all that found of Sand himself but I managed him well too. It honestly surprised that these two are hard-coded against each other. You can spare even fucking Bishop if you play your cards right.

>>3788941

Not him, but it is one of my favorite scenes in the game. So, yes, it would diminish the experience. It's always the little things.

>>3789021
i like qara, thought she was funny, she's just not important as a character in any way.
>>3789025
no.

>>3789021
Yeah there is a cut content scene where it gives a reason why Sand wants to get rid of Qara as she is a threat that is holding back her true powers oh and she threatens him with it.
https://youtu.be/rSOD0ZGENzQ?t=549

>>3790462
>i'm actually hiding my powerlevel
yeah, that's really dumb. no wonder they cut it.

>>3790464
Based retardo
Don't let them keep you down, king.

>>3790470
>i'm hiding my powerlevel and when in life or death combat i'll die rather than reveal it
no, that's legitimately dumb. sawyer made a good cut there, don't need that retarded anime logic.

>>3787742
The Neeshka thing is especially egregious because it was literally a planned romance cut for time, but even that didn't stop Söyer from having a melty

>>3790471
>>and when in life or death combat i'll die rather than reveal it
When does that happen?
And it's still in the game, it's just not explicitly spelled out for the player like it would've been in those scenes.

>>3790473
based sawyer not letting incel players cyberfuck a mentally challenged demonspawn streetrat.

>>3790475
>When does that happen?
at the end of the game when you fight her, retard or at any point when you take her into battle.
it's fucking nonsense, how thick are you?

>>3790476
You got it wrong, letting incels fuck the demonspawn was their original intention, they just ran out of development time. Söyboy only tried to rewrite history months after the game launched like the lying fag he is.

>>3790483
It was cut for a reason, the Balance Emperor never lies.

>>3790476
>mentally challenged
>16 INT

>>3790488
She's got 8 WIS.
INT in D&D is just the knowledge stat.

>>3790493
INT is explicitly learning and reasoning, would a 20 INT 8 WIS Wizard be "mentally challenged"?

>>3790493
Exactly, a high int low wis character is like an autisti, or even a savant depending on how low their wis and charisma are.
Not that 8 is low enough for her to be a retard, mind you.

>>3790478
>at the end of the game when you fight her
When she's a 20th level Sorcerer? Yeah, she's really doing a great job of pretending to be weak there.
I'm just making fun because you didn't watch the video, don't take it personal.

>>3790498
>would a 20 INT 8 WIS Wizard be "mentally challenged"?
Yes.
Have you seen how unhinged Wizards are?

>>3790502
Knowing that your ability to reshape reality with your thoughts makes you better than everyone else does not make you 'unhinged', thank you. Now if you'll excuse me I need to get back to my necromancy experiments and throwing lightning bolts at the local peasantry.

I hate you romance trannies. You opened the door to the dating sim product being the core of CRPGs

>>3790509
Go bitch at G*ider about it, not here.

>>3790509
Biotards are sadly a cancer that will not go away anytime soon.

>>3790501
and when sand is also a 20th level wizard and equivalent in power?
why would i watch a video? i've heard about that scene before. it's dumb, like much of nwn2.

>>3790509
romance breaks up monotony of combat

>>3790543
>and when sand is also a 20th level wizard and equivalent in power?
My point is that she's not hiding her powerlevel; mechanically, she's as strong as she could possibly be.
Hardly matters to me whether you watch it or not, I just think it's funny that you're so adamant about calling it dumb when you don't seem to understand it yourself.

>>3790618
this is dumb shit, anon. full stop.

>>3790634
Maybe that's why they cut it? Doesn't make the concept a bad one.

>>3790543
The video has the audio and some notes about what they wanted to depict like having her glow and talk with an echo in that scene; though I just wanted to share the clip/timestamp.

>>3790641
qara is a bad character concept, her dispute with sand is bad characterization. she's literally added in to have another female npc companion.
cut qara=better game

>>3790933
Cut all companions and replace with full party creation = better game

>>3790937
the point extends beyond companions.
less is more. remakes should trim fat, not add filler.

>>3782956 (OP)
It isn't powerful though. It was incredibly bloated, very limited, and a chore to work with, causing more busy work than necessary when compared to similar tools. The tools originally flopped hard and almost caused the game to go down with it, only being saved by MotB. Since they have not announced any improvements or necessary fixes to the tools you can imagine it will flop harder this go around.

>>3782973
>the engine was way more capable
No it wasn't. It had inefficient heightmaps, and terrain texture painting, that's it. Everything else is a peaceable or a script.

>>3785725
>>3785698
It's not 30 years old though. It's about 15 years old and modern junk. Old vault was good, new vault is web template junk.

>>3790942
I don’t disagree. I just like full party creation

>>3791049
Storm of Zehir has full party creation and an overworld map with skill checks on it.

>>3782956 (OP)
Base game and the first DLC are OK, but the other two DLCs sucked.
NWN2 didn't even break lvl 30.
Still, last good 3.5 game.

>>3791074
>last good 3.5 game
*only good 3.x game

>>3791079
Stern, but fair.

>>3791074
I like SoZ.
Its pacing is ass, no doubt, but I liked going around as a merchant adventure.
The other DLC you mentioned is MoW right?
I never played that, how is it anyway?

>>3791061
It also isn't good. Shows that nothing can redeem NWN2.

>>3791084
Some people seem to like its smaller scale adventure.

>>3782956 (OP)
I've already played it and can play it again right now if I want, why would you get "existed" about buying something you already own?

>>3792680
New active fan content maybe?

>>3792788
I admire your optimism.

>>3782956 (OP)
So why did they use the Shadowreavers voice in the trailer in such a way to make it appear to be the King of Shadows?

>>3793680
>THERES A BIGGER BADDER BIG BAD? POGGERS

>>3793708
but it makes it seem like the King of Shadows is speaking and also makes him look like a generic bad guy when he is in fact a good Illefarnian nationalist.

>>3794336
or maybe patriot is the word they used I forgot

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TgSqwnpjxyc

New trailer

>>3795494
Wow it's fucking nothing
Also, who the hell is that two-face looking motherfucker meant to be

>>3795494
>gameplay trailer
>no gameplay
I ain't even surprised

>>3795494
>hire someone to make new artwork for the trailers
>don't bother to add subtle MotB-esque portraits to the OC companions

>>3795496
>Also, who the hell is that two-face looking motherfucker meant to be
Garius, obviously.

>>3795503
Oh yeah, fair enough

hope they fixed the massive bugfest that was the Crossroad Keep minigame,

>>3795694
>he doesn't enjoy taking advantage of the time progression and exponential scaling to recruit an army greater than the entire population of the Sword Coast

>>3795494
MoW is an expansion?
I thought it was just a module that didn't add anything else to the rest of the game like SoZ and MotB did.

>>3795795
It's to NWN2 what Darkness Over Daggerford was to NWN1. Literally, as it's made by Ossian as well. Well, the one big difference is that while NWN1 had a lot of other big name modules, WoM was basically the only fucking one, so they didn't exactly have many choices to pull the premium card on.
But I mean it's alright.

>>3782956 (OP)
I hope they bring back support for the custom community.

>>3796119
You mean list of PWs?
That would be dope, although I doubt they'd be willing to host a central repo forever.

So how is the remaster? I have a fair bit for nostalgia for the original, so I might give it a go? Did they fix the wsad controls?

>>3801104
It'll release in 6 days.

>>3801109
I was fully convinced it was already out for some reason.

>>3801109
>>3801112
I can't count. 4 days.
It'll be playable on the 15th.

>>3801109
what a ripoff, that shit should be like 5 bucks

>>3801192
That is in BRL, equivalent to 12ish USD I think.

>>3801193
yeah, that's too much for you guys. it's 30 in usd anyways.

I fucking hate modern remaster space bloat.

>>3790937
replace full party with Sand

I am excited for the controller support, and I hope they dont have it all broken on Switch like the first one what the fuck

>>3802124
The superior approach, for sure.

>>3802723
Sand
>I think it is time everyone marched behind me, your new glorious leader.

release trailer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N2P00I5nJXk

>>3801104
So now that it's out, how are the wsad controls? I remember the original had weird stutters due to being server based or smth.

>>3802723
Sand is 100% gay though

>>3803968
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9XXPg3wKpLo

>>3804088
kek what a scam

I mean I'd have paid 20 some bucks to own the original on steam so whatever. Still fucking disappointing and I feel like a slop eater tho

>>3804131
check this new bug out
https://www.youtube.com/clip/Ugkx0xvrmK3vAt_uNbyl5knK9LfIINi-6Umw

someone tell me if they added animations for cleave and opportunity attacks

>>3804088
>but for most people they don't even know how to find the right folder much less make changes to an ini file
is that actually true? wtf

>>3804379
lol

>>3804459
some purple arrow you can barely see is just not the same feeling as smashing everyone around you

>>3804543
bro, are you retarded or just trolling?
this EE is literally SAAR edition.
Aspyr added AI enhanced textures and mada a console port. NOTHING more.

>>3804379
>>3804543
oh and they didn't btw, enhanced my ass

>>3782956 (OP)
Electron was never powerful, it was just clunky. People mistook the clunkiness and the fact it had a height map at all for power, even though it was the worst implementation of height mapping and terrain painting. You can always hope though.
>>3782996
Even if you revitalized the old NWN2 community 100% it would bomb. This is a reality copium addicts can't get through their thick skulls.

>people are still falling for "enhanced/definitive/director's cut" editions and outsourced cashgrab remakes
why gamers so dumb?

Did I break my game or is the multiplayer button not working anymore?

>>3782956 (OP)
I love NWN2. I bought the new version solely for controller support and don't even give a fuck about anything else.

>>3796119
that would be awesome. the NWN 1&2 modules migrated to different websites and servers once or twice already.

>>3787715
I've been lmaoing at that stupid ass pic longer than I probably should have. cheers to whoever made that, you win the internet today.

yeah, that's just a cashgrab

>>3790596
No it doesn't when the romance is all shit. There is no chemistry or even attraction. It's just badda-bing, badda-boom, you pressed the right dialogue options.

I'd have more respect for RPG romances if they actually used something like NWN2's influence system and had the player WORK for the romance. But even then the players would game the system by b-b, b-b dialogue trees for the +1 influence instead of hiding this stat even in the data files from miners finding it.

>>3804729
Because a lot of them do turn out to be good:
>Age of Empires II: Definitive Edition
>Age of Mythology: Retold
>Command & Conquer: Remastered
>WarCraft I & WarCraft II (after patches)
>Baldur's Gate: Enhanced Edition (after patches)
>Baldur's Gate II: Enhanced Edition (after patches)
>Neverwinter Nights: Enhanced Edition
>Planescape: Torment - Enhanced Edition
>Icewind Dale: Enhanced Edition
>Myst
>Riven
>Full Throttle
>Grim Fandango
>Sam & Max
>Secret of Monkey Island
>StarCraft: Remastered

And so on, and so forth. It CAN actually work. Supposedly even WarCraft III is now good, after a second round of massive patches.

>>3805704
The Tomb Raider 1-3, 4-6's are decent (done by Aspyr, but I think they outsourced it to the community patches and engines like OpenLara?).

>>3805704
Yeah I am going to give them some time to patch the game and see if they actually fix anything.

>>3805704
Some more:
>System Shock
>System Shock 2
>Gabriel Knight
>Age of Empires III
>Turok
>Turok 2

Then you have exotic cases like Silent Hill 2, which is ostensibly a remaster but in reality is a stealth sequel.

Did they really remove the menu option to load modules not attached to a campaign?
Motherfuckers.

bought in on xbox, left stick camera sensitivity is out of whack and you can't adjust ui size

>>3805704
>>3805731
lmao

>>3782956 (OP)
Why is there no hit sounds with monk?

>>3808556
What is the sound of one hand clapping?

>>3808566
https://youtu.be/qwoq3QBaQAY

>>3808576
My finger is pointing at the moon, but you only see the reflection in the lake.

>>3808589
Spoken like a frog in a well who doesn't know how high the sky is.

>>3804729
There was a study conducted over a decade ago about consumer behavior and susceptibility to influence. It showed that gamers are far more susceptible to false advertising and marketing practices than the average consumer, and are less discerning in general. I will never forget it as these things keep on happening.

>>3804729
well at least they change things somewhat in some of those versions and got them working on modern hardware.

Yeah, I think I'll just go back to my modded complete edition until this has gained some more traction.
Seems to be in a pretty rough state from all the forum buzz.

>>3810684
I did stumble onto at least one good news.
Seems like the man is back.